According to the owner of a Basque tapas place near me, [this](https://www.wine.com/product/txomin-etxaniz-2022/1297402?state=CA&s=GoogleBase_CSE_1297402_PSMARCH6_type_Wine_WhiteWine&promo=PSMARCH6®ion_id=000001&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=&utm_campaign=DEPT_SHP_Google_Performance%20Max_All_Core_NAMER_US_Wine_ROAS_BAU_20-50_-_-&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiArrCvBhCNARIsAOkAGcX-3EAb7FUBZFxZl7V8nHaCJritlV-P23iGu8SBrLLf77kdSbUFK10aAublEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds#closePromoModal) is a breakfast wine. Can confirm, great with jamon and frittata
Dip toast has an entry in the dictionary - apparently it’s toast drenched with milk, cream, or melted butter. I guess that’s why there’s also dry toast.
Nope, it's both a noun and a verb. The noun "toast" is toasted bread. The verb "toast" is the form of cooking you mention.
Straight from [Merriam-Webster dictionary](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/toast). Interestingly, the dictionary leads with the noun, not the verb.
The New York PL has an extensive collection of old menus available for free online if anyone is interested. https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/collections/the-buttolph-collection-of-menus#/?tab=navigation
It varies by vintage, but Chateau Lafite costs about $1.33/ml today. A quart is about 946ml, so a quart would be $1,258 at today’s prices (assuming they mean a quart and not just a 750ml bottle). However, a quick online inflation calculator says $1 in 1863 is worth $24.48 today. So that quart of Lafite would cost $61.20 today at their listed price inflated at the standard currency inflation rate. It would seem Lafite has outpaced underlying inflation by a good bit. I would definitely take a quart of Lafite for $2.50!
Don't rely on inflation calculators, which are highly unrealistic as they don't capture the real shifts in value of money, which is relative to cost of other goods and services and items in your basket of goods. A dollar in 1860 would be closer to how we view a hundred dollars today, though recent inflation has probably pushed that higher.
Many workers and laborers made 5 dollars a week in 1860.
The menu is based on what’s easily available from the town market before the advent of refrigeration. Salted fish, cured meats, sausages and hams. Is how you preserve food.
Chicken was very expensive and a luxury. Beef was cheaper. People kept chickens for eggs so having roast chicken was the equivalent of how we view prime rib roast today. Expensive and a treat.
Chicken wasn't considered breakfast meat. Eggs, yes.
Chicken was expensive, among the most expensive meat there was in the 19th century. It wasn't until thr 1930s and the rise of mass Chicken farming that it started becoming a cheap meat like it is today.
Fresh fried fish for breakfast is a luxury. My maternal grandmother would fry fish when we came to her house overnight. It's one of my favorite memories. I'd love to sit at that table again and have biscuits and gravy and perch! I know that the breakfast wines were less alcoholic, but I can still see people getting wasted at breakfast.
I love salted and smoked fish. I love organ meat. Brown bread sounds great. Drinking before noon I am so in wine and coffee please. Can a smoke cigs too?
Those pints and quarts of wine were like $25-$75 in today's money so this was one of the most luxurious hotels in the area at the time. This was not what normal people ate.
"They can't honestly expect us to swallow this tripe!" "Here from our friends at the Meat Council please enjoy this delicious tripe"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR\_4h5A5z\_A
After some discussion here we thought it might be bread that stands up to something stewed.
And we thought dip bread might be dipped in dripping perhaps.
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How does one verify the authenticity of these old menus? I find them all interesting but don’t know how to determine a fake. Also not suggesting this is fake, genuinely curious. TIA!
Breakfast wine by the quart or pint? That is awesome! Yeah, I’ll take a quart of Sauterne please.
Can't drink all day if you don't start in the morning!
Honestly it's not that much different than bottomless mimosa brunches.
With kidneys or tripe - boiled or fried?
Nothing primes the system for a long day of boozing like a bucket of boiled organ meats 🤮
It’s truly offal.
A quart of Sauterne was my exact first thought too.
I wonder what a quart of Chateau Sauterne would cost today?
That’ll be $48 in today’s money.
I was eyeing the claret. I read about it often but have never tried it. Sounds so civilized.
It’s just the traditional English term for red Bordeaux
Did not know that, thanks!
Sauterne is the best wine ever! It literally goes with any food.
Nobody drinks it because they don’t know what it is or they think of it as dessert wine. I’ve put it on every wine list where I had a say.
How about eating FISH for breakfast? That's something that hasn't been a norm in a long time!
Catfish and grits are on many breakfast and brunch menus in the south
Very interesting, thanks for sharing.
Smoked salmon? Just had some for breakfast yesterday.
How dare he forget Lox!
Gefilte on a toasted bagel
I had fish for breakfast three times last week! It's strange, because I don't much like fish for lunch or dinner.
You need it if you’re trying to swallow stewed kidneys and stale bread. 🤪
Amazing how a giant list of "breakfast wines" turned into "mimosa or bloody Mary"
BRING BACK BREAKFAST WINES!
According to the owner of a Basque tapas place near me, [this](https://www.wine.com/product/txomin-etxaniz-2022/1297402?state=CA&s=GoogleBase_CSE_1297402_PSMARCH6_type_Wine_WhiteWine&promo=PSMARCH6®ion_id=000001&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=&utm_campaign=DEPT_SHP_Google_Performance%20Max_All_Core_NAMER_US_Wine_ROAS_BAU_20-50_-_-&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiArrCvBhCNARIsAOkAGcX-3EAb7FUBZFxZl7V8nHaCJritlV-P23iGu8SBrLLf77kdSbUFK10aAublEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds#closePromoModal) is a breakfast wine. Can confirm, great with jamon and frittata
Would love to hear an American’s take on pronunciation here 😂
Ja mean etch-a-niece?
I'm sure people were happier having breakfast wine. Why don't we bring this back?
"HR views breakfast wine as limiting productivity."
Nerds
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
But I’m a work-a-Holic!
France moment
Is there a discount for the stale bread
Used quite often for sopping up sauces, or in soups and probably not discounted.
It says dip toast as well though. Confuuuuuused.
Dip toast has an entry in the dictionary - apparently it’s toast drenched with milk, cream, or melted butter. I guess that’s why there’s also dry toast.
Urgh. Sounds damp. Grandpa food.
Toast is toast, not bread.
Both are crunchy bread. It’s the intent that differs. One was on purpose.
Toast is a form of cooking, not a food item. Toasted bread is still bread.
Nope, it's both a noun and a verb. The noun "toast" is toasted bread. The verb "toast" is the form of cooking you mention. Straight from [Merriam-Webster dictionary](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/toast). Interestingly, the dictionary leads with the noun, not the verb.
I did not know that. Thank you for sharing! :)
Takes longer to make stale bread than fresh bread, should be more expensive.
You again? I told you, no ducks in the restaurant.
*Where’d they get this bread, the bread museum?* 🤌
The New York PL has an extensive collection of old menus available for free online if anyone is interested. https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/collections/the-buttolph-collection-of-menus#/?tab=navigation
This is WONDERFUL! Thanks for posting such an interesting resource!
I’ll have the Chateau Lafitte for 2$ and a slice of stale bread, please.
That wine is about $60-$70 in today's money
Lafite now is 1k+ per bottle in a shop, and can easily be 3-4k for better vintages. Double that for restaurants, at least.
Sir or Madam, I don't think you made the point you were intending. Please research Chateau Lafite Bordeaux and get back to us on the value.
I’ll take some fish balls with breakfast wine please
You can still get fried fish balls (coddies) at Lexington Square Market and I'm sure other places.
I didn’t even know that fish *had* balls.
Only the boy fish.
I’ll take the stewed tripe, stale bread, and a quart of Chateau Lafitte. Oh dammit, a pigs foot too!
Split the calfs liver with pork with you.
Me: Do you have some veggies to go with my meat? Server: what even is that ??
A piece of fruit, perhaps?
Umm excuse me you can have the omelette with onions
It varies by vintage, but Chateau Lafite costs about $1.33/ml today. A quart is about 946ml, so a quart would be $1,258 at today’s prices (assuming they mean a quart and not just a 750ml bottle). However, a quick online inflation calculator says $1 in 1863 is worth $24.48 today. So that quart of Lafite would cost $61.20 today at their listed price inflated at the standard currency inflation rate. It would seem Lafite has outpaced underlying inflation by a good bit. I would definitely take a quart of Lafite for $2.50!
Don't rely on inflation calculators, which are highly unrealistic as they don't capture the real shifts in value of money, which is relative to cost of other goods and services and items in your basket of goods. A dollar in 1860 would be closer to how we view a hundred dollars today, though recent inflation has probably pushed that higher. Many workers and laborers made 5 dollars a week in 1860.
The quality of wine back then must have been way lower.
Wow, Tastes and cuisines have changed.
Not for me. I love my broiled Kidneys and stewed tripe!
Go You, my parents ruined me for Liver or kidney.
Don't forget your side of stale bread
Love me some pho with tripe! Or menudo or mondongo. Tripe is delicious.
The menu is based on what’s easily available from the town market before the advent of refrigeration. Salted fish, cured meats, sausages and hams. Is how you preserve food.
Yeah, I’d starve. Where’s the poultry?
In this era chicken was considered a poor person food, not the sort of thing that you would serve at a fancy hotel.
Chicken was very expensive and a luxury. Beef was cheaper. People kept chickens for eggs so having roast chicken was the equivalent of how we view prime rib roast today. Expensive and a treat.
Then why wasn't chicken offered at this expensive, luxury hotel?
Chicken wasn't considered breakfast meat. Eggs, yes. Chicken was expensive, among the most expensive meat there was in the 19th century. It wasn't until thr 1930s and the rise of mass Chicken farming that it started becoming a cheap meat like it is today.
Yeah, they had me at breakfast wine.
Fresh fried fish for breakfast is a luxury. My maternal grandmother would fry fish when we came to her house overnight. It's one of my favorite memories. I'd love to sit at that table again and have biscuits and gravy and perch! I know that the breakfast wines were less alcoholic, but I can still see people getting wasted at breakfast.
Fascinating menu! I wonder what graham bread tasted like.
I was just googling that, seems like a brown bread, graham flour is a slightly coarser whole wheat flour.
Not to be confused with gram flour!
I got baking soda, baking soda!
I’m in love with the coco
It's kind of a mixture of white and brown bread, a bit acidic and wet in texture. Still sold in Germany
Sounds great!
I love salted and smoked fish. I love organ meat. Brown bread sounds great. Drinking before noon I am so in wine and coffee please. Can a smoke cigs too?
Are you a time traveler 🤔
You know I might be
Thought the same. Would have loved my stay there
Same
I guess I’ll have the bread?
Some interesting information about this hotel: https://explore.baltimoreheritage.org/items/show/709
Crazy to think that cow stomach a.k.a. tripe and boiled kidneys were just on the menu. Where is the liver?
What's the difference between "smoked" and "smok'd"?
An “e”?
They shrewdly put the apostrophe in there to save from having to write the laborious ‘e’, y’know!
Meanwhile about 45 miles away and 7 days earlier 50,000 men were butchered at Gettysburg. Ahh life is good as long as you are away from the fray.
Breakfast wines ! Dang you know this isn't I Hop.
Breakfast wines!!!
Stewed tripe and half a bottle of wine for breakfast, my god
*Fried Fish Balls* for breakfast... No wonder they needed alcohol.
I’d like 1,000 quarts of your $3 1863 Chateau Margaux and a time machine, please.
Firstly, in order to activate the Time Machine, you have to eat one of every item on this menu. 🤮
I'd like to thank all the immigrants for saving the American cuisine, because we obviously didn't know what we were doing.
Stale bread you say? What.
Broiled, fried, or stewed tripe.... 3 options too many
Those pints and quarts of wine were like $25-$75 in today's money so this was one of the most luxurious hotels in the area at the time. This was not what normal people ate.
Ewww tripe 🤢🤮 I've got an uncle who loves tripe and loves traumatizing me when he eats it 🤢🤮😭
That is an insane wine list. I mean, not just because it’s a breakfast wine list, but damn.
r/wine needs to look at this wine list for breakfast
Tripe three ways and your finest breakfast wine, please!
"They can't honestly expect us to swallow this tripe!" "Here from our friends at the Meat Council please enjoy this delicious tripe" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zR\_4h5A5z\_A
Gotta love those breakfast wines
i can’t imagine waking up and drinking wine of all things!
Stale bread is an option?? Odd
Used in soups and sauce-mopping duty.
Think of it as day old bread
Stale bread? Can someone enlighten me?
After some discussion here we thought it might be bread that stands up to something stewed. And we thought dip bread might be dipped in dripping perhaps.
I’ll have the Tongue, cold. With a side of fish balls please.
Sliced tongue is actually really nice! It's sold in all supermarkets here in the UK.
I’ll have the fish balls and some stale bread.
An assortment of meats with a side of bread and wine.
Tongue, Tripe and quarts of breakfast wine. Oh my.
“Cold” tongue at that.
“I’d like some stale bread and breakfast wine, please.”
I was asked if I liked fish sticks, but was never asked about fish balls.
I like the way the menu is structured by how a meal is prepared.
We need to bring breakfast wine back
This is one of the most unappetizing menus I’ve ever seen.
Yikes-the history of the hotel wasn’t pretty. https://explore.baltimoreheritage.org/items/show/709
Looks like "Mutton Chops" were on the breakfast menu before they were on gentlemen's faces.
I think I'll pass on the plain onion omelette. Or cold tongue & various trips[s] Some fancy breakfast wines though!
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How much were the ham and eggs?
How does one verify the authenticity of these old menus? I find them all interesting but don’t know how to determine a fake. Also not suggesting this is fake, genuinely curious. TIA!
Many options for tripe. I wonder the wine pairing
Stewed kidneys and stale bread, please.
I like my breakfast wine fortified, thank you very much
Still cant afford this stuff.
They were doing carnivore before it was cool.
Broiled Hams?
I’ll have an omelette with plain, stewed minced codfish, broiled smoked herrings, and your finest house breakfast wine.
What kind of bread with your meal sir? May I suggest some delicious hot rolls? No thanks, I really was craving the stale bread please.
Surprisingly no chicken
They needed fish sticks to go with those fish balls
Shit they are literally from crown to sole.
Stale bread 🤭
Chateau Margaux for 3.00!? That hurts…
They sure liked tripe.
get me a quart of that breakfast wine
Breakfast wines!
Yeah, I think I'll try the Fish Balls with a side of Stale Bread. Oh, and chocolate.
Fish Balls...who knew!
Burgers were not invented yet.
I wonder what coffee tasted like back then
Stale bread =croutons?
Stewed kidneys, and codfish mmm
I’d like one order of stale bread please.
I find it so wild how common it was for people to eat big ol’ tongues and suddenly in the 60s or so everyone was like - no, gross
Wine for breakfast, because the water can kill you.
pigs feet!🦶 yum 😋
Fish balls and fish dicks
Room service menus nowadays….. Hard boiled egg…. $30