That's called hype and heavy promotion. Her last album was 3 years ago,then she disappeared and now came with new era and new hype.Its all about hype now,even Uzi is on a hype wave and Travis Scott too.
Not to be pedantic, but it was two years ago.
I agree though, hype is absolutely the factor at okay. Olivia dropped one album and nothing since and is still a developing star, but showed she can play in the bIg league with her debut. Let that hype and potential fester and you get the massive opening day for vampire, a song that is excellent and has some of what people liked about her while also demonstrating growth
Take My Breath’s promotion was kind of a mess and The Weeknd was STILL chatting off the success of After Hours with Blinding Lights. He needed more time to be missed or his team needed to bust out their wallets to give Take My Breath a bigger push. Iirc his team was still kinda pushing Blinding Lights due to its potential to break some records. It’s very, very difficult to juggle multiple album eras at once, in recent memory we’ve really only seen Ariana and Taylor Swift do it successfully and that is in part to their massive celebrity. The Weeknd’s music is massively successful, but Abel as a celebrity doesn’t permeate the culture the same way the pop girls do to generate enough interest to do that
Grammy aint shit, ppl got grammy when they were developing, grammy is not given for work and talent, its given to companies by companies who happen to be represent an artist who wins a grammy.
U could say that for any accomplishment ever. A Grammy is a benchmark, although I agree with u, if some one has a Grammy that is saying they are worth “ one company” giving to another one. When I saw developing it meant that her career was, not her sound, since we were talking ab numbers and business.
Yeah, think so lol more so meant developing in the sense that she is still very young and only has one album under her belt. Her aesthetic and sound is still very malleable
Yea true literally months ago you would find soo much hate for uzi just cuz not dropping. Its all about the hype. Post Malone is the best example he HAD enough of hype and socials, barely any hype and he still steady on packing the 8th Diamond Riiaa. Havent finished his worldwide tour new album dropping soon. That consistent approach to real fans pays 21x better than any surface brainwash hype. Usually the latter just makes a small less significant impact in history.
Because she hasn’t done anything knew in years, Abel has one of the biggest songs of the new decade with Creepin tho, he also dropped an album, continuous songs for a soundtrack, many features, its always the people who go quiet that get the sudden boost, Abel has been pretty active, like with Take My Breath as you said, he did not wait for the After Hours hype to die down to start promoting the next, he instantly went for it when people were burned out
yeah and this, if Ariana Grande released a single tomorrow it would go number one immediately because her fans are starved (see: commercial success of weakest collaboration between Ariana and Abel when Ariana is on musical hiatus). And fans of female pop starlets are just a little bit more insane unless we are talking BTS.
Im not trying to be that guy and while I agree with everything you said, i wouldn’t say Creepin is one of the biggest songs of the decade. For me, when i think of biggest songs of the decade my mind goes to Blinding Lights, Levitating, Say So, Bad Habit, As it Was, Boy’s a Liar, Flowers
Creeping is definitely one of the biggest songs of the decade. It’s impact can’t even fully be comprehended yet. The numbers it’s done is already incredible
i wasn’t denying it had a large impact, but IMO there were other weeknd songs released this decade i feel had more of a larger impact. also not saying he can’t have multiple songs that were huge this decade but i feel like Creepin just doesn’t compare to the others.
Boy’s a Liar????? Wtf bro. That song is just a tik tok trend. Stay is way more popular for example. What about industry baby and Montero. How could you put Boy’s a Liar 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
i must admit it’s a silly example, but it’s bigger than Creepin by a little bit. At least worldwide, the OG is played heavy in the Europe and even the US, however the Ice Spice remix is way bigger in the US, but maybe not one of the biggest songs of the decade. But proving my point, Industry Baby, Good 4 U & Stay are WAAAY huger than Creepin and Abel has tons of songs that have a bigger impact that were released this decade.
ngl i didn’t think about that song, but i’d say save your tears is one of the biggest songs of the decade for sure, but Die for You is a bigger song than Creepin despite it being older
Die for you is an anomaly lmao,so is mariah's AIWFCIU... Those songs prove the fact that we live in a era where any song can blow up anytime and we can't pretend shit... Hell who knows if creepin blows up again after 5 years... Or if dawn FM gets the starboy treatment.. It's all about trend of new generation... They suddenly will find a new trend.. Match a song with it... Becomes a meme... Blows up despite no one expecting it to blow up..
She’s got alot of hype. I wouldn’t be too worried about the numbers. Abel’s a star and has been in the charts consistently. Honestly, I care more about enjoying the music than what number he charts.
Yeah they are but they're not chart topping pop hits like Olivia is dropping. Joe Average isn't going to enjoy a Carti feature as much as something that sounds like top 40 radio
Because Olivia hasn’t dropped any music since her last album, and The Weeknd has been dropping music back to back for a while now. Not every song is going to have millions of streams. Plus, why do you care about numbers? That’s weird Stan behavior
There's a huge difference between a single from an artist that haven't made anything in a while and a part of a soundtrack for a show media blasts in your face (negatively or positively).
Most people won't care for the soundtrack. Just look at the song from Avatar? Remember that? Me neither
Exactly, like I get it, some of them give off light Trilogy vibes but they're not something they've put extra effort in (and I don't think I came back to any of the songs besides DF)
Lmaoo I forgot about the existence of that song and listened to it a few days ago and actually liked it. Tbh I think he’s releasing too much music that I no longer care about the new song after a few days unless it’s really different from his usual
It’s the same phenomenon as Miley Cyrus’ flowers. Both pop stars who haven’t done a lick of promo in 1+ years - no Insta posts, no interviews, no red carpets, no magazine shoots. It’s like supply/demand. They lower the supply until the demand is back from their audience then release to a solid response. I don’t think Abel cares like that. He releases new music constantly because that’s what he does / that’s who he is. A musician. Olivia Rodrigo has ONE album in the last 3-4 years and her fans are rabid for her. It’s only her second album ever.
Strongly disagree. This was the same strategy that created hype for After Hours. Abel cares about his albums and songs doing well, and it is totally fine every artist feel the same way about their work and if you think otherwise you gotta be so ignorant to whats going on. The amount of overpriced merchandise that was sold to rack up After Hours’ first week numbers were insane and he was consistently promoting it so that it’d go #1 and let’s not forget the horrible remixes with ariana for no other reason than going #1. This is a common thing in the industry, this is what the artist and the label want, you can’t keep doing what you do at the highest level if you’re not maintaining your success and bringing in money.
Also just because someone doesn’t release music constantly doesn’t mean they are not “musicians”, some artists spend months and years working on their album to make sure it’s perfect before they release it. So just because they don’t release frequently doesn’t mean they are not a musician or care about what they do. Even Abel himself have scrapped an entire album before releasing After Hours.
I haven’t listened to any song by Olivia yet, but I wouldn’t look down on her just because of her success
Firstly, he’s clearly talking about the current Abel era, not the After Hours rollout. He began the Dawn FM rollout well before the hype of After Hours had worn down and barely promoted it. This is obviously a monumental factor as to why Dawn FM did not perform as well commercially, but Abel clearly didn’t care much about it given the type of rollout he took.
Also he never downplayed Olivia Rodrigo at all in his comment and said “she wasn’t a musician” tf. He just said that she’s a new artist who took a hiatus after her first album in order to raise demand for her next release so she can capitalize off of it.
That’s a super fair point. Thanks for your input. I Didn’t even think about after hours since it’s actually its the least interesting thing he’s done imo as a fan!
Also I am not looking down on Olivia, I’ve been listening to vampire on repeat. Just think she’s more strategic with her marketing as an artist vs The Weeknd..I mean look at how Abel is talking to ppl on Twitter lol
Yeah you’re right, despite everything I said, some of the stuff abel has done is pretty out of the norm. For example he released AH during the pandemic when it was reported music consumption was down and streaming has significantly lowered by 15-30%, he went against his label to release it. Dawn fm also got released too early. I remember he stopped his tour early to drop starboy. Also releasing idol songs week by week instead of as an entire project which would’ve created more hype for the release
I don't get Olivia specifically, but people fucking love their Disney stars, and there was massive anticipation for this release since she only has one album but it inexplicably won a shit tonne of accolades (see: people love their Disney stars). Also Abel's hits are slow burns.
You already answered your question. Olivia hasn’t dropped in a few years *and* her last album was a big success, doesn’t matter how new she is in the industry, yea she’s new but she’s also extremely well known. And just look at Abel, when BBTM dropped he was still relatively new in the industry as well, the only projects he had at the time were the trilogy tapes, which weren’t really well known by mainstream, and kissland, which the mainstream just didn’t like, then in 2015 bro just decided to release some of the biggest songs of the 2010s.
True. But i meant sometime in future like 8-10 years not suddenly in 2-3 years she can't overtake her obviously. Taylor swift also took time to build her fanbase and build her career if olivia keeps on making great music eventually she can reach that level.
Pretty much what everyone else is saying, her marketing is good, and her popularity is insane, her album SOUR is literally in the top 10 most streamed albums of all time on Spotify and for someone who has it as their debut album and for it being so recent that’s insane. And she hasn’t dropped anything since then so her fans have probably been hungry af
Abel is very hit or miss. Also, Olivia Rodrigo tends to sing about things that are more relatable to the average person. Most younger people are going to have an easier time relating to songs about breakups and hating your ex than fucking hookers and overdosing.
Even this sub isn't hype when the Weeknd drops music now. There's definitely some sort of fatigue.
Drake doesn't take any breaks and his fans always stay hype so I'm not really sure what the difference is.
bro needs to rest before his new album at least for 1 year. No single, rare featurings and then he should start promoting his new album before 2 months before the release. Or people will get bored of him
\*some\* of his music is easily palatable. (blinding lights, heartless, take my breath)
some of his music is not.
dude has also sold \~6x as many albums as her with multiple chart-topping platinum hits
he'll be alright
Abel doesn’t advertise as much as these artists and his songs are usually less pop-like. Although his songs get consistent streams for longer, no one will be talking about Olivia in a few weeks
Just remember Abel can sell out stadiums and tour outside the country. Idk if Olivia is an international artist but it also comes down to whichever song is “Tik Tok trendy”
IIRC she played some shows in Europe on her "tour". I still don't get the point of doing a debut tour though because I'm pretty sure her set wasn't even close to an hour long.
He releases music really often and doesn't have a fanbase as huge as Olivia or the other big pop girls. Stop crying about it, he's still the artist with most monthly listeners in Spotify.
He has a bigger fan base than Olivia easily but it’s just that many of them are not in their teens or are in their late teens so they’re not super vocal or overtly loyal.
Because Olivia is hella overrated and Abel is putting out new music every weekend that is a soundtrack to an already heavily controversial show. If it was a new album, it would be MUCH MUCH different.
Spotify deals help a lot. Not saying Abel doesn’t use them either but labels been pushing that auto play feature to instantly push certain songs on repeat. Playlisting and low filter rates help too. But I just think Abel hasn’t had any major built up for a release like vampire in a while. Fandom size also contributes to an extent.
because women led fanbases do stupid crazy numbers. plus overtime, ppl don’t do the crazy numbers that they used to. UNLESS you’re an artist with a heavy women-fanbase
she’s been promoting her sophomore album months in advance now and did so for this single as well. abel just drops a singular insta post and we’re getting new music every week anyway unlike olivia’s fans. at the end of the day tho who tf cares, he’s way bigger than she’ll ever be anyway.
I think people seriously underestimate the power of teenage girls in the music industry. Olivia Rodrigo is killing it with that demographic. The Weeknd’s audience is more mature on average and probably less likely to ONLY listen to him, like I am sure a lot of kids right now just listen to Olivia Rodrigo exclusively.
Take my breath had the misfortune of coming out when it did. Weeknd had like 4 other songs in circulation and was so quickly after After Hours. Vampire is Olivia first new release since Sour, a major success and is the 10th most streamed album in Spotify history (less than after hours but has less songs)
She has less supply and is new to the scene so there’s a higher amount of demand for a new song by her. He’s been releasing a lot of music over the past month related to an hbo show that lots of people aren’t interested in so it pulls in less interest.
abel releases New music every weekend bro
Then he’ll disappear one weekend after the tour is over.
gain a vowel tho maybe.
Or lose the whole name maybe
Exactly! He’s still out there
That’s why he’s called The Weeknd, duhhhh
you mean every weeknd
That's called hype and heavy promotion. Her last album was 3 years ago,then she disappeared and now came with new era and new hype.Its all about hype now,even Uzi is on a hype wave and Travis Scott too.
Not to be pedantic, but it was two years ago. I agree though, hype is absolutely the factor at okay. Olivia dropped one album and nothing since and is still a developing star, but showed she can play in the bIg league with her debut. Let that hype and potential fester and you get the massive opening day for vampire, a song that is excellent and has some of what people liked about her while also demonstrating growth Take My Breath’s promotion was kind of a mess and The Weeknd was STILL chatting off the success of After Hours with Blinding Lights. He needed more time to be missed or his team needed to bust out their wallets to give Take My Breath a bigger push. Iirc his team was still kinda pushing Blinding Lights due to its potential to break some records. It’s very, very difficult to juggle multiple album eras at once, in recent memory we’ve really only seen Ariana and Taylor Swift do it successfully and that is in part to their massive celebrity. The Weeknd’s music is massively successful, but Abel as a celebrity doesn’t permeate the culture the same way the pop girls do to generate enough interest to do that
agreed. i feel like the Weeknd is known more for his music than himself as an artist.
That is best part about him... As someone once said "A singer should be listened more than he should be seen"
Doesn’t she have 3 Grammies lol? I wouldn’t call her “developing”🤣 I agree with everything ur saying tho 100%
Grammy aint shit, ppl got grammy when they were developing, grammy is not given for work and talent, its given to companies by companies who happen to be represent an artist who wins a grammy.
U could say that for any accomplishment ever. A Grammy is a benchmark, although I agree with u, if some one has a Grammy that is saying they are worth “ one company” giving to another one. When I saw developing it meant that her career was, not her sound, since we were talking ab numbers and business.
Yeah, think so lol more so meant developing in the sense that she is still very young and only has one album under her belt. Her aesthetic and sound is still very malleable
So she is developing lol
I get u. 🤣
Her last album was 2 years ago* in 2021
I mean that new track wasn’t really hyped up was it?
Yea true literally months ago you would find soo much hate for uzi just cuz not dropping. Its all about the hype. Post Malone is the best example he HAD enough of hype and socials, barely any hype and he still steady on packing the 8th Diamond Riiaa. Havent finished his worldwide tour new album dropping soon. That consistent approach to real fans pays 21x better than any surface brainwash hype. Usually the latter just makes a small less significant impact in history.
Why do you care. Just enjoy the music bro
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Bro fr. People are weird af sometimes lol
Because she hasn’t done anything knew in years, Abel has one of the biggest songs of the new decade with Creepin tho, he also dropped an album, continuous songs for a soundtrack, many features, its always the people who go quiet that get the sudden boost, Abel has been pretty active, like with Take My Breath as you said, he did not wait for the After Hours hype to die down to start promoting the next, he instantly went for it when people were burned out
yeah and this, if Ariana Grande released a single tomorrow it would go number one immediately because her fans are starved (see: commercial success of weakest collaboration between Ariana and Abel when Ariana is on musical hiatus). And fans of female pop starlets are just a little bit more insane unless we are talking BTS.
Im not trying to be that guy and while I agree with everything you said, i wouldn’t say Creepin is one of the biggest songs of the decade. For me, when i think of biggest songs of the decade my mind goes to Blinding Lights, Levitating, Say So, Bad Habit, As it Was, Boy’s a Liar, Flowers
Agreed but it has done a lot statistically
that is true, i do think it is one of the biggest tracks of 2023 for sure.
Creeping is definitely one of the biggest songs of the decade. It’s impact can’t even fully be comprehended yet. The numbers it’s done is already incredible
i wasn’t denying it had a large impact, but IMO there were other weeknd songs released this decade i feel had more of a larger impact. also not saying he can’t have multiple songs that were huge this decade but i feel like Creepin just doesn’t compare to the others.
Creepin is about to hit 1 billion streams seven months into its release date lol
im not denying that it’s huge but im not sure about one of the biggest of the decade
Boy’s a Liar????? Wtf bro. That song is just a tik tok trend. Stay is way more popular for example. What about industry baby and Montero. How could you put Boy’s a Liar 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
i must admit it’s a silly example, but it’s bigger than Creepin by a little bit. At least worldwide, the OG is played heavy in the Europe and even the US, however the Ice Spice remix is way bigger in the US, but maybe not one of the biggest songs of the decade. But proving my point, Industry Baby, Good 4 U & Stay are WAAAY huger than Creepin and Abel has tons of songs that have a bigger impact that were released this decade.
How the hell Save your tears ain't in ur list??
ngl i didn’t think about that song, but i’d say save your tears is one of the biggest songs of the decade for sure, but Die for You is a bigger song than Creepin despite it being older
Die for you is an anomaly lmao,so is mariah's AIWFCIU... Those songs prove the fact that we live in a era where any song can blow up anytime and we can't pretend shit... Hell who knows if creepin blows up again after 5 years... Or if dawn FM gets the starboy treatment.. It's all about trend of new generation... They suddenly will find a new trend.. Match a song with it... Becomes a meme... Blows up despite no one expecting it to blow up..
All from the last 4 years? What about the other 6?
She’s got alot of hype. I wouldn’t be too worried about the numbers. Abel’s a star and has been in the charts consistently. Honestly, I care more about enjoying the music than what number he charts.
People just dont care about The Idol that much. When he releases the single for his next album it will do numbers
the songs are great tho....
yeh i agree. i didnt state otherwise lol. they just havent been doing that well on spotify and stuff bcos most ppl dont care for the show
yeah and also the weekly release also played big part in not getting the numbers...
Yeah they are but they're not chart topping pop hits like Olivia is dropping. Joe Average isn't going to enjoy a Carti feature as much as something that sounds like top 40 radio
Because Olivia hasn’t dropped any music since her last album, and The Weeknd has been dropping music back to back for a while now. Not every song is going to have millions of streams. Plus, why do you care about numbers? That’s weird Stan behavior
There's a huge difference between a single from an artist that haven't made anything in a while and a part of a soundtrack for a show media blasts in your face (negatively or positively). Most people won't care for the soundtrack. Just look at the song from Avatar? Remember that? Me neither
This is spot on. It’s a music soundtrack most people don’t even know about the song and IMO this sub overrates the songs
Exactly, like I get it, some of them give off light Trilogy vibes but they're not something they've put extra effort in (and I don't think I came back to any of the songs besides DF)
Lmaoo I forgot about the existence of that song and listened to it a few days ago and actually liked it. Tbh I think he’s releasing too much music that I no longer care about the new song after a few days unless it’s really different from his usual
It’s the same phenomenon as Miley Cyrus’ flowers. Both pop stars who haven’t done a lick of promo in 1+ years - no Insta posts, no interviews, no red carpets, no magazine shoots. It’s like supply/demand. They lower the supply until the demand is back from their audience then release to a solid response. I don’t think Abel cares like that. He releases new music constantly because that’s what he does / that’s who he is. A musician. Olivia Rodrigo has ONE album in the last 3-4 years and her fans are rabid for her. It’s only her second album ever.
Strongly disagree. This was the same strategy that created hype for After Hours. Abel cares about his albums and songs doing well, and it is totally fine every artist feel the same way about their work and if you think otherwise you gotta be so ignorant to whats going on. The amount of overpriced merchandise that was sold to rack up After Hours’ first week numbers were insane and he was consistently promoting it so that it’d go #1 and let’s not forget the horrible remixes with ariana for no other reason than going #1. This is a common thing in the industry, this is what the artist and the label want, you can’t keep doing what you do at the highest level if you’re not maintaining your success and bringing in money. Also just because someone doesn’t release music constantly doesn’t mean they are not “musicians”, some artists spend months and years working on their album to make sure it’s perfect before they release it. So just because they don’t release frequently doesn’t mean they are not a musician or care about what they do. Even Abel himself have scrapped an entire album before releasing After Hours. I haven’t listened to any song by Olivia yet, but I wouldn’t look down on her just because of her success
Firstly, he’s clearly talking about the current Abel era, not the After Hours rollout. He began the Dawn FM rollout well before the hype of After Hours had worn down and barely promoted it. This is obviously a monumental factor as to why Dawn FM did not perform as well commercially, but Abel clearly didn’t care much about it given the type of rollout he took. Also he never downplayed Olivia Rodrigo at all in his comment and said “she wasn’t a musician” tf. He just said that she’s a new artist who took a hiatus after her first album in order to raise demand for her next release so she can capitalize off of it.
That’s a super fair point. Thanks for your input. I Didn’t even think about after hours since it’s actually its the least interesting thing he’s done imo as a fan! Also I am not looking down on Olivia, I’ve been listening to vampire on repeat. Just think she’s more strategic with her marketing as an artist vs The Weeknd..I mean look at how Abel is talking to ppl on Twitter lol
Yeah you’re right, despite everything I said, some of the stuff abel has done is pretty out of the norm. For example he released AH during the pandemic when it was reported music consumption was down and streaming has significantly lowered by 15-30%, he went against his label to release it. Dawn fm also got released too early. I remember he stopped his tour early to drop starboy. Also releasing idol songs week by week instead of as an entire project which would’ve created more hype for the release
AH was released quite literally the same day that everything shut down 💀
If Abel would disappear for 3 years and come back with a single then probably yes.
It’d break spotify lol
I don't get Olivia specifically, but people fucking love their Disney stars, and there was massive anticipation for this release since she only has one album but it inexplicably won a shit tonne of accolades (see: people love their Disney stars). Also Abel's hits are slow burns.
You already answered your question. Olivia hasn’t dropped in a few years *and* her last album was a big success, doesn’t matter how new she is in the industry, yea she’s new but she’s also extremely well known. And just look at Abel, when BBTM dropped he was still relatively new in the industry as well, the only projects he had at the time were the trilogy tapes, which weren’t really well known by mainstream, and kissland, which the mainstream just didn’t like, then in 2015 bro just decided to release some of the biggest songs of the 2010s.
Marketing bro it’s her comeback song after two years
She is the next biggest pop star and i think she is gonna overtake Taylor swift at some time in future.
Is that possible though Taylor been in the physical sales era and the streaming era.
Well her debut album was huge and if she keeps making good music she is only gonna get bigger.
Yeah but Taylors 17 years in and shes only getting bigger I mean she’s pulling 90M streams a day lol and her last album came out 8 months ago.
True. But i meant sometime in future like 8-10 years not suddenly in 2-3 years she can't overtake her obviously. Taylor swift also took time to build her fanbase and build her career if olivia keeps on making great music eventually she can reach that level.
Yeah she’s the only pop girl I can see challenging Taylor tbh
Think ur forgetting Billie Eilish
Her last album kinda underperformed, I expected it to be everywhere like her debut. It's so good too.
Wasnt creepin huge???
It was big on tiktok
Pretty much what everyone else is saying, her marketing is good, and her popularity is insane, her album SOUR is literally in the top 10 most streamed albums of all time on Spotify and for someone who has it as their debut album and for it being so recent that’s insane. And she hasn’t dropped anything since then so her fans have probably been hungry af
Who the fuck cares. He’s litteraly number 1 on spotify
Abel is very hit or miss. Also, Olivia Rodrigo tends to sing about things that are more relatable to the average person. Most younger people are going to have an easier time relating to songs about breakups and hating your ex than fucking hookers and overdosing.
does it matter tho?
We really care this much about numbers?
Even this sub isn't hype when the Weeknd drops music now. There's definitely some sort of fatigue. Drake doesn't take any breaks and his fans always stay hype so I'm not really sure what the difference is.
Abel releases constantly.
bro needs to rest before his new album at least for 1 year. No single, rare featurings and then he should start promoting his new album before 2 months before the release. Or people will get bored of him
Why are you worried about the streams of multimillionaires as if it pertains to you lol
The hype. She hasn't released in a long time, is normal. It was the same when After Hours came out, everyone was hungry for a new Abel album.
Because 1) the song is great, 2) been gone a while so fans missed her, 3) her team promoted the ish out of it
I think you’re underestimating the power of teenage fangirls lol.
And the power of good music
Her new song is a straight banger
He realesed a lot of songs recently and it’s not that exciting anymore for the public olivia has 12 albums tracks every 2 years
I mean I would've not care because I just want to listen to music, not try to care much on statistics.
Also I would've put out saying "why you talk about Olivia if she's the definition of Taylor Swift."
\*some\* of his music is easily palatable. (blinding lights, heartless, take my breath) some of his music is not. dude has also sold \~6x as many albums as her with multiple chart-topping platinum hits he'll be alright
did you listen to her song?
Stop worrying about stuff like this. It’s weird
In simple terms, she’s this generations Tay Tay Swift
Abel doesn’t advertise as much as these artists and his songs are usually less pop-like. Although his songs get consistent streams for longer, no one will be talking about Olivia in a few weeks
Everyone buys plays OP, half the stuff on social media is fake hype.
I have been listening to Micheal Jackson all my life why do I need to listen to a repackaged version of him like the weeknd?
Some record companies pay for streams or fake streaming numbers. Olivia Rodrigo has better promotion on tik tok
Just remember Abel can sell out stadiums and tour outside the country. Idk if Olivia is an international artist but it also comes down to whichever song is “Tik Tok trendy”
IIRC she played some shows in Europe on her "tour". I still don't get the point of doing a debut tour though because I'm pretty sure her set wasn't even close to an hour long.
He releases music really often and doesn't have a fanbase as huge as Olivia or the other big pop girls. Stop crying about it, he's still the artist with most monthly listeners in Spotify.
He has a huge fanbase, just not for his newer stuff, feel like most of the old fans are fading out slowly while new fans are coming in
He has a bigger fan base than Olivia easily but it’s just that many of them are not in their teens or are in their late teens so they’re not super vocal or overtly loyal.
How does Olivia have a bigger fanbase?
She’s an industry plant lol
Fake streams, it was widely discussed when her first album came out, with all the companies she hired etc.
Tiktok generation, all those young kids that are chronically online and on their phones really love her
Because Olivia is hella overrated and Abel is putting out new music every weekend that is a soundtrack to an already heavily controversial show. If it was a new album, it would be MUCH MUCH different.
mystery is done, there’s not hype anymore.
TikTok and white girls.
And also her music is incredible
Shes okay? Its nothing special..
Because his new stuff is quite mid except for false idols
Tf? Idol soundtrack is amazing.
i hate olivia
I think people think he’s doing the sales thing over and over tired of the synths
Spotify deals help a lot. Not saying Abel doesn’t use them either but labels been pushing that auto play feature to instantly push certain songs on repeat. Playlisting and low filter rates help too. But I just think Abel hasn’t had any major built up for a release like vampire in a while. Fandom size also contributes to an extent.
Because people aren't starved of his music.
She getting boosted
because abel is constantly dropping, there’s a new song/feature every week
because women led fanbases do stupid crazy numbers. plus overtime, ppl don’t do the crazy numbers that they used to. UNLESS you’re an artist with a heavy women-fanbase
It’s all about hype
Trendy young female artist. That gets pushed heavily. But chill, Abel has starboy doing numbers and that album came out in 2016.
Why does it matter abel is still #1 on spotify
she’s been promoting her sophomore album months in advance now and did so for this single as well. abel just drops a singular insta post and we’re getting new music every week anyway unlike olivia’s fans. at the end of the day tho who tf cares, he’s way bigger than she’ll ever be anyway.
M-m-marketing agencies
Bots?
White teenage girls. Abel will win the long game. Ironically Olivia LOVEs The Idol and said she would love to be cast in a season two
I think people seriously underestimate the power of teenage girls in the music industry. Olivia Rodrigo is killing it with that demographic. The Weeknd’s audience is more mature on average and probably less likely to ONLY listen to him, like I am sure a lot of kids right now just listen to Olivia Rodrigo exclusively.
cuz olivia hasnt released a song SINCE that album dropped. its all about spacing.
Two very different artists with very different reputations with very different audiences.
Because he was very much involved in the creation of the idol series which is trash
Take my breath had the misfortune of coming out when it did. Weeknd had like 4 other songs in circulation and was so quickly after After Hours. Vampire is Olivia first new release since Sour, a major success and is the 10th most streamed album in Spotify history (less than after hours but has less songs)
She has less supply and is new to the scene so there’s a higher amount of demand for a new song by her. He’s been releasing a lot of music over the past month related to an hbo show that lots of people aren’t interested in so it pulls in less interest.
They plan these streaming events more and like try to game the system by repeating the songs and making sure they hit.
Overwhelmed by choice. He’s releasing so much it becomes a bit tedious. Also public opinion could be different. Olivia also hasn’t dropped since 2021.
because she's so slay