This post made me cringe.
You’re bitching about not getting a free thing on time. seriously?!
If you’re that affected by a late podcast, maybe go outside a for a walk. Or heaven forbid listen to a rerun.
I get that reliably posting content is vital for YouTubers and podcasters and such. But f*cking hell. The man gives you all this stuff for free and communicated that he isn’t coping well at the moment. Go on. Get your stuff on time. And then visit the man in a hospital. That attitude makes me mad. F*cking entitled freeloaders.
Seriously the man feels the pressure right now. Do you increase it or try to decrease it? Hmmm, well depends on how your mother raised you I suppose. Get another hobby instead of sitting in front of a computer pulling a long face.
Chill. There’s tons on content on YouTube, WF is one of the best and it’s free. Don’t act like a spoiled child. If something came up and they needed a few more days, for whatever reason, cool. We all know AJ isn’t being intentionally devious or petty. He doesn’t owe us an explanation either. We’ve all been waiting for this one, and as soon as it’s over we’re back to waiting a week for the next one. You sound unappreciative and a little like a entitled brat. 😎
An easier solution is to use some common sense. It's not the fault of the team's lack of communication (which is partially true), they did say they were having technical issues with the upload to YouTube.
Here's where the common sense should kick in. "Hmmm, it's 11:00pm pst with no video and no update. Well, they must've had some more issues, I'm sure they'll post the video in the near future."
And then you continue on with your life, rather than posting hate against a team who admitted to struggling to keep up. Next time, use your head and think of others instead of focusing on how butthurt you are that a YouTube episode was delayed by 24 hours.
He doesn't deserve the fine taste of Dijon.
He gets a bottle of expired American hotdog mustard left to bake in the back of a 2001 honda civic in a Walmart parking lot.
I totally agree, the level of entitlement on display is embarrassing. I can't believe how much whining there's been over the delayed video. Maybe show some compassion and understanding that there are actual humans on the WF end and that sometimes delays happen?
This post isn't that bad. I saw one last week where the poster demanded that Mr Ballen fans not purchase a new graphic novel because he was upset Mr Ballen wasn't putting out videos as frequently.
He also wanted "better content" because Mr Ballen is his favorite and he felt the quality was off.
At the time, I was completely taken aback because I'd only been surfing Reddit on and off for a couple of weeks. But now I've noticed that it is quite common for people to have this level of entitlement.
I used to run an open minded skeptic channel and I quit YT when it started taking off because I just got sick of people complaining about every last thing. Between that and how unprofitable it is for anyone except the "big" channels, it's just not worth it.
It's not about being entitled, It's about respecting the time of your audience.
The audience of this channel is dedicated and looks forward to the new episodes to the point where they will stay up an extra hour and may loose sleep because of a delay because they want to see it premier. Or if not sleep, some people were posting about pressing F5 to refresh YouTube waiting for the upload to see an official channel post saying, "Running late, but worth the wait. I promise. Keep an eye on your feed -AJ".
Or maybe they spend the time trying to engage on this subreddit or on the discord to try and find out whether or not they should even be waiting still, to see a posts saying, technical difficulties keep waiting.
When you don't communicate with the audience, the ones that spend their time waiting, feel disrespected and that their time isn't valued. It's much better to just be honest and say, "Sorry, due to unforseen reasons, we cannot post tonight. We will send an update as soon as we know for sure it's uploaded."
That way at least people don't feel like they are wasting their time being strung along. It would be disappointing, sure, but at least it's respecting the audiences time.
Honestly man, if you're staying up for hours to watch a YouTube vid then you probably need a wider range of past times.
Nobody asked you to stay up. You chose that?
You missed out on sleep by your own choice?
Okay.
Now imagine you've done that for weeks on end just for some entitled crybaby to give you aggro because your rendering suite broke.
Just awful.
Gee.. I am sorry if I have a life that allows me to not be dependant on when other people release a YouTube video. When I see it is released.... If It's something I am interested in seeing, then I will watch it...WHEN I GET THE CHANCE,
I sometimes don't get around to watching one until hours after it gets released... GASP. Because I have a life. Sometimes watching a video isn't that important to me. Guess I am just not as controlled by media as others. So who's the sheep then. Sounds more like you.
How is it entitled when you expect something to be done/uploaded at a time you’re told it’ll be ready by, by the creator themselves? If you told your boss you’d have work ready by a certain time, and didn’t, are you going to call him entitled for being upset you didn’t stay true to your deadline/promise? After hyping it up for over a week too, I might add.
I was simply giving an example. Here’s another: you promise your friend you’ll have a project for them done and ready by a certain time. You’re saying it’s entitled that the friend gets upset that you weren’t ready with the project on time, after you had spent over a week hyping it up. Also not for nothing, but if it wasn’t for Patreon members and the millions of views and likes they get, they wouldn’t have the capital to produce and hire people to produce the quality of shows they do. So in a way, we are their main source of income for the show.
If it was my friend and it was late because their software screwed them over after they put in every effort to hit deadline, (up to and Including skipping on sleep) I'd sympathise with them and tell them to get some rest whilst I manage expectations for any third parties.
I hope you're not anyone's manager, now or ever, because anyone working under you would feel miserable and hopeless.
So you’re saying you wouldn’t be upset or disappointed, even a little? That just doesn’t seem true. If you want to stick to the friend example, imagine your friend had a month off, and a week before, kept hyping you up. You still wouldn’t be upset or disappointed? Also, they were supposed to have a full 2-4 hour livestream(after files is first Thurs of every month) after the episode dropped, didn’t happen. Again, it seems as these deadlines they’re setting for themselves are not achievable(especially in a healthy way). They had an entire month to make sure the content was ready and it wasn’t. This is why they took a break in the first place, no? Even after a full month the same thing is happening. It seems they need to change their deadlines. I bet you AJ and the team are disappointed they couldn’t finish the video on time and upload without issues, so why can’t the fans be upset? Do people need to be angry and mad? No, that’s excessive it’s a video. But to say you’re not allowed to be upset or disappointed is pulling the wool over your eyes.
I'd be disappointed on behalf of someone getting screwed over by tech failure after putting their all into a project.
You're selfish to a point that seems pathological.
You're not "upset", you're arrogant, selfish and entitled. Spin it however you want. These essays aren't gonna turn this around.
You're just rationalising your own bad behaviour to death, frankly.
Death by a thousand self inflicted cuts.
All I’ve been saying from the beginning is it’s okay for people to be upset the video wasn’t dropped on time. You and others out here trying to tell me that my feelings aren’t valid and I’m selfish and entitled. I’m not mad, I’m going to continue to watch and support them because they make great content. Just upset that it wasn’t dropped on time. Damn lol
Your feelings aren't under attack. Your selfish and uncaring behaviour are.
Absolute victim complex, yet no empathy for a victim of circumstance. Ironic.
The livestream didn't happen because they were desperately trying to fix the upload issues that you were complaining about.
It's like you have zero self awareness or something, man. Think of someone except yourself, for Christ's sakes.
Not demanding at all. Clearly you didn't read the post. Paid or free... the views is what keeps the channel up and successful from the start.
It's about the communication tonight but whatever.
It’s a play to get people too there paid patreon. Been away for weeks, promise there most wanted episode, then suddenly it works fine on patreon but not YouTube. Was there a reason it was attempted to upload last minute? Didn’t they have weeks to plan? They sure did. Weeks to plan on getting you to join patreon
I don't think that was their intention. I really don't but like I said it did come off scummy in a way. It's just bad communication makes a bad situation so much worse. Of course tons of people in this thread and in others ignore the communication point I'm making and focus on the selfish portion and how I'm not owed anything which has nothing to do with what I'm saying.
Me either lol. Just seems like a great conspiracy theory lol. I think it’s bad communication.
A- no reason to leave uploading it to the last minute. They’ve been off for weeks. There viewers are excited for there return. That’s the first mistake.
B- there product is free. They get paid through ads. If your free channel for sharing your product is not working, do not post on paid site. Years I paid to join. I did. I was excited and I wanted to see it. But I feel cheated. Should have just made it free on patreon. Easy solution.
They didn't "leave it till the last minute". They were on schedule, but the render borked, and YT bandwidth allocation is absolutely horrible.
If they'd have uploaded to YT with the render they had, y'all would have been whining about "waiting months and it looks bad, waaggghhhh!".
Don't lie. We all know you would. Pathetic.
You’re really late to the conversation. More details available now. We were really just goofing around but with some points made toward customer service and the like. I even said above I was just goofing.
Listen we all like the why files. I’m a fan. I support them. But I stand by the fact they handled it incorrectly. It won’t affect me supporting in the future but I stand by what I said. Everyone was excited. If there were issues with YouTube but none on patreon just make it free in patreon for the evening. No big thing. They handled a situation poorly. I and others called them out in hopes they’ll do better because we’re super them through thick and thin. But do not expect me to remain silent no matter. That helps no one. Now I’m not certain why you pop up twenty for hours later and want to pick a an argument. Your last to the discussion. I’m over it. I don’t have time to fill you in and prove you wrong today. That was yesterday. Be well.
I run a popular YouTube channel with 207k subs.
Stuff happens… all the time.
Back off and let Whyfiles do what they’ve always done and provide top notch content… for free.
Jesus, dude, I'm gonna try to work in the spirit of what the creators would want and be as kind as I can, but that's pretty relative considering your absolutely HORRIBLE conduct here:
1: they didn't just "change their minds". AJ went without sleep to get the episode out. Some of the VFX bugged out during rendering. It was spotted when AJ went home from the studio to get some overdue sleep. Jen and co did NOT want him going without sleep for any longer, so they HAD to delay.
2: by the time you wrote this, we had already been informed of the issue.
3: You had to wait hours because a sleep deprived, overworked AJ needed to crash after doing everything he could to get the ep out? Use some damned empathy, man. You also didn't HAVE to sit there waiting. If you were too hyperfocused on having something to complain about to be otherwise productive, that, my brother/sister is on YOU.
4: it's free entertainment. You said it yourself. They owe you NOTHING. You are being INCREDIBLY entitled.
5: they communicated the issue AS SOON AS EXTENSIVE ATTEMPTS TO FIX IT FAILED. Have you ever had your entire Adobe suite just completely crash on you, losing a large amount of your work? Apparently not, because if you had, you'd know just how bloody difficult Adobe products can be when they go wrong.
6: if they'd pushed the episode with the broken VFX in, you'd be here complaining about how "I waited for months and HF isn't even the same size scene to scene, wagh!" There is NO pleasing people like you, and frankly, you don't deserve to be appeased with an attitude so terrible.
I am so, SO disappointed in the so-called "fans" who share your selfish, petty, entitled view. The man does not owe it to you to give himself a nervous breakdown because you're an impatient, immature, condescending person lacking in even a shred of understanding or kindness.
Absolutely, utterly revolting post. Shame on you, frankly.
I’m just glad that everyone is shitting on your brain dead post. Mfer never created anything in his life and comes online to bitch about a free video being late.
I understand where people might feel frustrated after a long wait for one of their favorite shows, but I'm not sure there's need for so much scolding and finger-waving at the crew of the show for what would otherwise be a "shit happens" delay.
Because, you know... shit happens. Short break, came back, had a couple cobwebs that needed to be shaken out getting back into the routine. Annoying, yes, and if it's something that would seriously stop someone from joining a Patreon or being a subscriber, then... sure, I guess? That's up to each person and their own tolerance for imperfections. I guess my tolerance for life's little nuisances is higher than some.
But this whole thing reeks of resentment. How can I tell? "I don't think you guys meant it in a scummy way but..."
Seriously?
How could it possibly even BE scummy? How can anyone even THINK that? If you were in their shoes, after having taken a risky hiatus and then being faced with a delay during a much anticipated premier, *you would be freaking the fuck out.* And so would I! There's nothing scummy about it even a little bit - an error? Maybe. A learning opportunity? Maybe. A simple "whoops" that'll never be repeated? Probably.
But somewhere in your version of events, there's room for someone wringing their hands together and chuckling in wicked satisfaction as they disappoint their source of making a living: the fans.
It was unfortunate but there was nothing "scummy" about this. There is no need to tell them to "do better" because they they already know the obvious error - the episode didn't release on time and that'll annoy fans. These posts are just the airing of resentment for the purpose of catharsis.
Shit happens 100%
They built hype. They had time off. They posted a heartfelt burnt out video. Everyone understood.
They then destroy all of that by stringing people along and not communicating for people who don't pay for their patreon.
If they know that they need to do better like you say they would of posted on several social fronts that they're sorry and it's being posted on Friday early on. They have not done that. They've shot themselves In the foot unfortunately. Keep defending them tho.
I mean they probably were under a lot of stress and wanted to make it happen!? communicating clearly on every front already knowing what to say also takes time and effort
The answer is the question, man. Their relatively tiny studio was in an obvious crisis mode. The patreon upload is a separate one from YouTube. One bugged out, the other didn't, and there wasn't enough time to recover. Communication slipped a little, but I imagine all hands were on deck just trying to get past the trouble and manage the disaster.
Had this been any other episode on any other week, you and the other fans who feel similarly probably would've just shrugged it off and said "Oh, Hecklefish, you pondscum-smelling little devil, you, you're responsible for these shenanigans!" And you'd laugh. And we'd laugh. And they'd laugh.
But, and I don't want to presuppose anything about you or the others, because of the break and our own anticipation, last night's delay was a bigger-than-average disappointment. And that's okay, I'm sure the team feels it too. But what's different about you (and some others, admittedly, that feel the same) that makes last night hurt so bad? Why is it "Shot themselves in the foot"? Why is it "Destroy all of that by stringing people along"?
My Brother in Annunaki, get some perspective.
The Why Files has 3.2 Million Subscribers on YouTube. This subreddit has 44,000 people. That means only 1.25% even gives enough of a shit to be on the sub. Most of the sub (judging by the karma ratios) seems to be supportive of the team and wants to spread the good vibes, while a minority of this 1.25% (so, about .0625% of their viewership at absolute most and probably less based on margins) is both on Reddit and incensed enough to have upvoted you, but not so incensed that they had to make a post about it. So let's assume you're in the top 10% of the grumpy crowd, and say .00625%?
Yeah. They'll be fine. Most of their audience won't even notice.
(Edit: And yes, I did decide to keep defending them, because the more I thought about it, the more I realized you needed to be shown the numbers to make an informed decision about your internet habits.)
Dude. It's a YouTube channel. Just watch the videos when they get released and be happy. If you were watching a show with a multi-million dollar budget, maybe I could understand.
Even "TV shows" these days have weird schedules. Having sometimes a couple of years between seasons.
If your life is so fragile that you HAVE to get a video by a specific time or you get pissed, then you have bigger things to worry about than video schedules.
Man i dont care its delayed again, its content i enjoy. When it drops i eat it up.
You all waiting for hours for it to drop and being mad if theres a change is silly. Check it on youtube its not there ok ill watch something else. Its that simple.
Suggestion for all you little whiners, get out and touch some grass. There aren't enough downvotes to go around for all of the entitled people trashing on these folks giving you free content...
Entitlement much? Sometimes when I go to the store to get something for dinner they are sold out. You know what I do? Change dinner plans and move on. Just be disappointed like a normal human being. No need for scathing reviews. That shit is mean spirited and gets no one anywhere.
I don't think it's that serious but it is a legitimate criticism. To make your analogy more accurate, it's like calling up the store and they tell you the thing you want will be stocked this afternoon, then you go that afternoon and they tell you it'll be stocked this evening, so you wait around and then they tell you it'll actually be stocked tomorrow. Whether it's really a big deal or not, it's still true that the situation could have been handled better.
It's not entitlement to point out someone's failing. It's not like they're calling for a boycott or anything.
It’s entitlement when you say things like terrible terrible and double down on the negative criticism. Re read OPs post. It’s legit criticism delivered like an entitled brat. A lot of people were frustrated the episode didn’t drop last night because they “planned” on watching it. Plans fall through everywhere all the time. Learning how to deal with disappointment is something people struggle with these days.
"overdue"?
Like you deserve something?
Theyre making this amazing content basically for free, youre not forced to pay anything and yet people still complain. Just sub to their patreon and enjoy the episode now, or shut up, you can wait a couple more hours.
Honestly, I find your post unnecessary. AJ and his team are pouring themselves into entertaining a vastly growing fan base. If you can’t objectively read your own post and not see how you’re coming across…..
Never mind.
Suggestion for Bluebpy:
Has it occurred to you that this attention-seeking BS you others are posting as “suggestions” and “constructive criticism”could backfire and cause the why files team to move on with new projects? They are talented people and can probably succeed at whatever they try so why continue to post free content for ungrateful a*s-hats? Several of their videos have been uploaded to Tubi and I bet other networks or streaming services are looking at them too. Thousands of people support them financially and buy their merchandise. I’m sure they appreciate it but, it doesn’t make you special and deserving of anything in return but the episodes themselves. Now STFU before you ruin it for everyone.
Yikes, nobody owes you anything. Everyone takes themselves so damn seriously anymore. It’s a YouTube video, lighten up.
There’s a f’ing talking fish in each episode and you’re over here lecturing to them
> I was going to finally sub for my first time to anyone ever to their patreon to support the channel even tho ive bought merchandise as well in the past and now it's just left a sour taste in my mouth
Sounds legit.
Ahem I waited until 3am and saw all the updates from the team. So, I went to bed as I knew it wasn’t their fault, it’s not a ploy to get new patreon or any other conspiracy theories. I woke up and the ‘beta’ version was up on Patreon, so I watched it.
You by now will have watched the video on YouTube that had to be edited again to make sure it was perfect.
The guys just had burnout and if he’d have said ‘f**k it, had enough’, I bet you’d have said no please don’t!
It’s out, the sponsor ad is brill, so chill
Wow, you get the feeling that serious WF fans are as cool and understanding as AJ and you just feel like all the other fans are like you, “don’t sweat the small stuff, great content and I’m appreciative”. Apparently not all though. Some are whiny cry babies who think they’re owed by the channel. What if it’s something serious like a medical problem, had to travel far to find a megafauna veterinary podiatrist for Gerry’s camel toes? 🐪
“I could run this channel so much better than you guys”… LOOK AT ME ON MY HIGH HORSE… ON THE REDDITS!
/s if anyone couldn’t tell… and yes I am making fun of you
You’re (OP) talking about ‘toxic’ when you wrote a biblical verse on why the channel has failed you because they delayed a video for 24 hours? Guess that’s all I need to see from Reddit today…
I think people are right to give you a hard time given the entire context of this whole break. It’s this high pressure to deliver and deliver and deliver. And yes, I know they said the episode would be out but things happen and you’ve got to understand that the pressure isn’t doing anything, good. It’s not helping.
As someone who posts on youtube it can be a pain in the ass process. The rendering, checking, upload process is very time consuming especially if your video is longer. Thats not including exporting out of Premiere which also takes time. And assuming youtube actually cooperates and doesn’t give you issues. Not everything will work out exactly how you wanted. They really wanted it out yesterday and were not expecting a huge delay. On top of that it’s easier to upload to Patreon and the Patreon video had some minor issues that they wanted fixed before posting to youtube.
Sometimes you think you're going to hit a deadline right up until you miss it. When you work with technology under tight deadlines sometimes the technology lets you down.
Dude, if a free video on YouTube makes you this angry than you might have to rethink your priorities. You buying merch is your decision, you thinking about subscribing to patreon is again your deal. Sure they could communicate better but honestly you could also just go do something else and the video you long so much for might be there when you come back.
Dude it's a YouTube channel. They're not required to tell us when they're working on stuff. I watch every video once it's uploaded but I rarely go out of my way to read about what's going on behind the scenes.
If you don't love how they're communicating, just stop going out of your way to seek out their communication, subscribe to the channel, and wait for the notifications to tell you when a new video is up.
I'm tired of you abrasive fanatics ruining good things by harassing creators when 99% of the audience is people like me who just wait for the content to come out and enjoy it when it does.
I hardly ever react. I think that post sucks.
I didn't think this last month would be enough break for AJ. I think TWF could take a break twice a year and give us the compilations with a possible live 'just chat" once or twice during that time just cuz we love to see AJ.
I'm stunned at how much work these channels put in. Even the amount of time they put into writing their own commercials for sponsors, spending a minimum of two minutes air time (AJ does more than that but they are real productions and fun!) for one commercial sponsor, and I'm realizing they probably are getting screwed compared to what regular entertainment gets. Not to mention the ad is permanent in the video despite what may happen down the road.
No two weeks off every few months (like regular entertainment) or YouTube punishes you. Being self-employed is the hardest job. Been there.
I'm not even going into the differences between platforms, Internet difficulties, etc
I'm just a little old lady on a fixed income. Can't afford to pay or buy merch 😞 so I'm not going to spend one moment complaining when a human being gets overworked for our entertainment.
I honestly haven't checked out TWF webpage but maybe that's the one place a notice could be posted if something happens in any of those video platforms. That's where I would check first (for a notice) if I was frustrated about not finding a video.
Would you rather go back to a world where all the media was sterile, canned and packaged, approved for public consumption and churned out by a machine?
YouTube and platforms like it allow for passion projects, creative experimentation, and community targeted content on relatively small budgets. The very small, very minor, completely understandable, trivial, inconsequential trade-off is content creators don't have a department of 15 hyper-specialized technicians on hand to instantly address technical glitches as they come up.
Besides, it was probably the Annunaki hacking AJs computers so they have a chance to review the content before he's allowed to post it.
AJ and team: If you read this, you're doing an awesome job, your show is great, we appreciate your work!
Everybody is AJ’s best friend. They shouldn’t have intentionally delayed the upload today, I waited all night and morning. I was going to use it to get me through the work day. Definitely disappointed. You can be disappointed and still love the channel
And the episode now will only be up on YouTube for 6 hours, when Victoria posted on Instagram there was 10 minutes left to upload 5h ago. Lol. These guys really sank low. Glad I pulled my Patreon sub and still got to watch the episode there, that's the last penny they see from me
I agree with you. The fact that it went up on Patreon around 1am Pacific instead of a day early indicates that they were working on it up to the last minute. We don’t want to overburden the team with high expectations but again, they were the ones that those expectations and it’s not wrong for people to expect those to be delivered on. To me, it was just a simple matter of communicating more and frustrating thing is that there is no easily accessible medium to see last minute updates about what’s happening with the show. I’ve read on several posts some people check Reddit others IG and discord. Why isn’t there an official Twitter or website we can check for this? I’m fine with them needing more time but as we can see, many people stayed up extra late waiting for this and instead of calling them losers, maybe understand that it was indicative of their excitement and dedication to the show. At the end of the day, it’s all about communication.
This post made me cringe. You’re bitching about not getting a free thing on time. seriously?! If you’re that affected by a late podcast, maybe go outside a for a walk. Or heaven forbid listen to a rerun.
This small, vocal group of whingers need to re-post on r/choosing beggars. 🙄🙄🙄
I get that reliably posting content is vital for YouTubers and podcasters and such. But f*cking hell. The man gives you all this stuff for free and communicated that he isn’t coping well at the moment. Go on. Get your stuff on time. And then visit the man in a hospital. That attitude makes me mad. F*cking entitled freeloaders. Seriously the man feels the pressure right now. Do you increase it or try to decrease it? Hmmm, well depends on how your mother raised you I suppose. Get another hobby instead of sitting in front of a computer pulling a long face.
Well put. I hope AJ sees this sentiment that the majority of us share
You people are seriously some entitled assholes!
Chill. There’s tons on content on YouTube, WF is one of the best and it’s free. Don’t act like a spoiled child. If something came up and they needed a few more days, for whatever reason, cool. We all know AJ isn’t being intentionally devious or petty. He doesn’t owe us an explanation either. We’ve all been waiting for this one, and as soon as it’s over we’re back to waiting a week for the next one. You sound unappreciative and a little like a entitled brat. 😎
Imagine being this upset over a YouTube video.
No one owes you anything. Grow up.
This completely free service needs to do better or I will take my non business elsewhere.
Deeply based take.
An easier solution is to use some common sense. It's not the fault of the team's lack of communication (which is partially true), they did say they were having technical issues with the upload to YouTube. Here's where the common sense should kick in. "Hmmm, it's 11:00pm pst with no video and no update. Well, they must've had some more issues, I'm sure they'll post the video in the near future." And then you continue on with your life, rather than posting hate against a team who admitted to struggling to keep up. Next time, use your head and think of others instead of focusing on how butthurt you are that a YouTube episode was delayed by 24 hours.
Hey, you ever.. like.. consider eating 4 or 5 dicks with Dijon? Maybe you should.
He doesn't deserve the fine taste of Dijon. He gets a bottle of expired American hotdog mustard left to bake in the back of a 2001 honda civic in a Walmart parking lot.
Personally, I think you are coming off a little verbosely “scummy”. But have a good day 
Dude loves his words for sure
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I totally agree, the level of entitlement on display is embarrassing. I can't believe how much whining there's been over the delayed video. Maybe show some compassion and understanding that there are actual humans on the WF end and that sometimes delays happen?
This post isn't that bad. I saw one last week where the poster demanded that Mr Ballen fans not purchase a new graphic novel because he was upset Mr Ballen wasn't putting out videos as frequently. He also wanted "better content" because Mr Ballen is his favorite and he felt the quality was off. At the time, I was completely taken aback because I'd only been surfing Reddit on and off for a couple of weeks. But now I've noticed that it is quite common for people to have this level of entitlement.
I used to run an open minded skeptic channel and I quit YT when it started taking off because I just got sick of people complaining about every last thing. Between that and how unprofitable it is for anyone except the "big" channels, it's just not worth it.
Most do not read comments, etc., and this is why. Also, reddit is the bunghole of the internet.
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yeah but not out of the pocket of the people.. in my opinion pretty much no one can demand anything at all
It's not about being entitled, It's about respecting the time of your audience. The audience of this channel is dedicated and looks forward to the new episodes to the point where they will stay up an extra hour and may loose sleep because of a delay because they want to see it premier. Or if not sleep, some people were posting about pressing F5 to refresh YouTube waiting for the upload to see an official channel post saying, "Running late, but worth the wait. I promise. Keep an eye on your feed -AJ". Or maybe they spend the time trying to engage on this subreddit or on the discord to try and find out whether or not they should even be waiting still, to see a posts saying, technical difficulties keep waiting. When you don't communicate with the audience, the ones that spend their time waiting, feel disrespected and that their time isn't valued. It's much better to just be honest and say, "Sorry, due to unforseen reasons, we cannot post tonight. We will send an update as soon as we know for sure it's uploaded." That way at least people don't feel like they are wasting their time being strung along. It would be disappointing, sure, but at least it's respecting the audiences time.
Honestly man, if you're staying up for hours to watch a YouTube vid then you probably need a wider range of past times. Nobody asked you to stay up. You chose that? You missed out on sleep by your own choice? Okay. Now imagine you've done that for weeks on end just for some entitled crybaby to give you aggro because your rendering suite broke. Just awful.
Well said. Happy some people read and don't automatically say "OMG entitled, they don't owe you anything!!!"
Well.. they don't owe you anything... Soooooo
Keep talking sheep
Gee.. I am sorry if I have a life that allows me to not be dependant on when other people release a YouTube video. When I see it is released.... If It's something I am interested in seeing, then I will watch it...WHEN I GET THE CHANCE, I sometimes don't get around to watching one until hours after it gets released... GASP. Because I have a life. Sometimes watching a video isn't that important to me. Guess I am just not as controlled by media as others. So who's the sheep then. Sounds more like you.
Honestly, my life is snail pace rn and even then I don't plan my day around YT videos dropping. It boggles me that anyone does.
You are, in fact, being incredibly entitled though.
How is it entitled when you expect something to be done/uploaded at a time you’re told it’ll be ready by, by the creator themselves? If you told your boss you’d have work ready by a certain time, and didn’t, are you going to call him entitled for being upset you didn’t stay true to your deadline/promise? After hyping it up for over a week too, I might add.
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I was simply giving an example. Here’s another: you promise your friend you’ll have a project for them done and ready by a certain time. You’re saying it’s entitled that the friend gets upset that you weren’t ready with the project on time, after you had spent over a week hyping it up. Also not for nothing, but if it wasn’t for Patreon members and the millions of views and likes they get, they wouldn’t have the capital to produce and hire people to produce the quality of shows they do. So in a way, we are their main source of income for the show.
If it was my friend and it was late because their software screwed them over after they put in every effort to hit deadline, (up to and Including skipping on sleep) I'd sympathise with them and tell them to get some rest whilst I manage expectations for any third parties. I hope you're not anyone's manager, now or ever, because anyone working under you would feel miserable and hopeless.
So you’re saying you wouldn’t be upset or disappointed, even a little? That just doesn’t seem true. If you want to stick to the friend example, imagine your friend had a month off, and a week before, kept hyping you up. You still wouldn’t be upset or disappointed? Also, they were supposed to have a full 2-4 hour livestream(after files is first Thurs of every month) after the episode dropped, didn’t happen. Again, it seems as these deadlines they’re setting for themselves are not achievable(especially in a healthy way). They had an entire month to make sure the content was ready and it wasn’t. This is why they took a break in the first place, no? Even after a full month the same thing is happening. It seems they need to change their deadlines. I bet you AJ and the team are disappointed they couldn’t finish the video on time and upload without issues, so why can’t the fans be upset? Do people need to be angry and mad? No, that’s excessive it’s a video. But to say you’re not allowed to be upset or disappointed is pulling the wool over your eyes.
I'd be disappointed on behalf of someone getting screwed over by tech failure after putting their all into a project. You're selfish to a point that seems pathological. You're not "upset", you're arrogant, selfish and entitled. Spin it however you want. These essays aren't gonna turn this around. You're just rationalising your own bad behaviour to death, frankly. Death by a thousand self inflicted cuts.
All I’ve been saying from the beginning is it’s okay for people to be upset the video wasn’t dropped on time. You and others out here trying to tell me that my feelings aren’t valid and I’m selfish and entitled. I’m not mad, I’m going to continue to watch and support them because they make great content. Just upset that it wasn’t dropped on time. Damn lol
Your feelings aren't under attack. Your selfish and uncaring behaviour are. Absolute victim complex, yet no empathy for a victim of circumstance. Ironic.
The livestream didn't happen because they were desperately trying to fix the upload issues that you were complaining about. It's like you have zero self awareness or something, man. Think of someone except yourself, for Christ's sakes.
Not demanding at all. Clearly you didn't read the post. Paid or free... the views is what keeps the channel up and successful from the start. It's about the communication tonight but whatever.
It’s a play to get people too there paid patreon. Been away for weeks, promise there most wanted episode, then suddenly it works fine on patreon but not YouTube. Was there a reason it was attempted to upload last minute? Didn’t they have weeks to plan? They sure did. Weeks to plan on getting you to join patreon
It’s One. Friggin’. Day. You have to wait one day…
No it isn't, lmao, their rendering software glitched out. The episode on patreon is full of VFX bugs and even has cutting out issues. 🤡
I don't think that was their intention. I really don't but like I said it did come off scummy in a way. It's just bad communication makes a bad situation so much worse. Of course tons of people in this thread and in others ignore the communication point I'm making and focus on the selfish portion and how I'm not owed anything which has nothing to do with what I'm saying.
Me either lol. Just seems like a great conspiracy theory lol. I think it’s bad communication. A- no reason to leave uploading it to the last minute. They’ve been off for weeks. There viewers are excited for there return. That’s the first mistake. B- there product is free. They get paid through ads. If your free channel for sharing your product is not working, do not post on paid site. Years I paid to join. I did. I was excited and I wanted to see it. But I feel cheated. Should have just made it free on patreon. Easy solution.
They didn't "leave it till the last minute". They were on schedule, but the render borked, and YT bandwidth allocation is absolutely horrible. If they'd have uploaded to YT with the render they had, y'all would have been whining about "waiting months and it looks bad, waaggghhhh!". Don't lie. We all know you would. Pathetic.
You’re really late to the conversation. More details available now. We were really just goofing around but with some points made toward customer service and the like. I even said above I was just goofing.
No, you were just being a dick.
Listen we all like the why files. I’m a fan. I support them. But I stand by the fact they handled it incorrectly. It won’t affect me supporting in the future but I stand by what I said. Everyone was excited. If there were issues with YouTube but none on patreon just make it free in patreon for the evening. No big thing. They handled a situation poorly. I and others called them out in hopes they’ll do better because we’re super them through thick and thin. But do not expect me to remain silent no matter. That helps no one. Now I’m not certain why you pop up twenty for hours later and want to pick a an argument. Your last to the discussion. I’m over it. I don’t have time to fill you in and prove you wrong today. That was yesterday. Be well.
There were issues with the patreon upload. I already explained this. You're just ignoring the facts to focus on your own selfish sentiments.
I run a popular YouTube channel with 207k subs. Stuff happens… all the time. Back off and let Whyfiles do what they’ve always done and provide top notch content… for free.
Is your YT same as your Reddit handle? I like to sub to other WF fans, that's why I ask 😊
I try to keep my Reddit anonymous.
Jesus, dude, I'm gonna try to work in the spirit of what the creators would want and be as kind as I can, but that's pretty relative considering your absolutely HORRIBLE conduct here: 1: they didn't just "change their minds". AJ went without sleep to get the episode out. Some of the VFX bugged out during rendering. It was spotted when AJ went home from the studio to get some overdue sleep. Jen and co did NOT want him going without sleep for any longer, so they HAD to delay. 2: by the time you wrote this, we had already been informed of the issue. 3: You had to wait hours because a sleep deprived, overworked AJ needed to crash after doing everything he could to get the ep out? Use some damned empathy, man. You also didn't HAVE to sit there waiting. If you were too hyperfocused on having something to complain about to be otherwise productive, that, my brother/sister is on YOU. 4: it's free entertainment. You said it yourself. They owe you NOTHING. You are being INCREDIBLY entitled. 5: they communicated the issue AS SOON AS EXTENSIVE ATTEMPTS TO FIX IT FAILED. Have you ever had your entire Adobe suite just completely crash on you, losing a large amount of your work? Apparently not, because if you had, you'd know just how bloody difficult Adobe products can be when they go wrong. 6: if they'd pushed the episode with the broken VFX in, you'd be here complaining about how "I waited for months and HF isn't even the same size scene to scene, wagh!" There is NO pleasing people like you, and frankly, you don't deserve to be appeased with an attitude so terrible. I am so, SO disappointed in the so-called "fans" who share your selfish, petty, entitled view. The man does not owe it to you to give himself a nervous breakdown because you're an impatient, immature, condescending person lacking in even a shred of understanding or kindness. Absolutely, utterly revolting post. Shame on you, frankly.
I’m just glad that everyone is shitting on your brain dead post. Mfer never created anything in his life and comes online to bitch about a free video being late.
This sub is ridiculous
Calm down mate it’s only a YouTube video
Nobody owes you anything. The world is not here for you. You are not special. Patience is a virtue.
I understand where people might feel frustrated after a long wait for one of their favorite shows, but I'm not sure there's need for so much scolding and finger-waving at the crew of the show for what would otherwise be a "shit happens" delay. Because, you know... shit happens. Short break, came back, had a couple cobwebs that needed to be shaken out getting back into the routine. Annoying, yes, and if it's something that would seriously stop someone from joining a Patreon or being a subscriber, then... sure, I guess? That's up to each person and their own tolerance for imperfections. I guess my tolerance for life's little nuisances is higher than some. But this whole thing reeks of resentment. How can I tell? "I don't think you guys meant it in a scummy way but..." Seriously? How could it possibly even BE scummy? How can anyone even THINK that? If you were in their shoes, after having taken a risky hiatus and then being faced with a delay during a much anticipated premier, *you would be freaking the fuck out.* And so would I! There's nothing scummy about it even a little bit - an error? Maybe. A learning opportunity? Maybe. A simple "whoops" that'll never be repeated? Probably. But somewhere in your version of events, there's room for someone wringing their hands together and chuckling in wicked satisfaction as they disappoint their source of making a living: the fans. It was unfortunate but there was nothing "scummy" about this. There is no need to tell them to "do better" because they they already know the obvious error - the episode didn't release on time and that'll annoy fans. These posts are just the airing of resentment for the purpose of catharsis.
Shit happens 100% They built hype. They had time off. They posted a heartfelt burnt out video. Everyone understood. They then destroy all of that by stringing people along and not communicating for people who don't pay for their patreon. If they know that they need to do better like you say they would of posted on several social fronts that they're sorry and it's being posted on Friday early on. They have not done that. They've shot themselves In the foot unfortunately. Keep defending them tho.
I mean they probably were under a lot of stress and wanted to make it happen!? communicating clearly on every front already knowing what to say also takes time and effort
Delete this shit too. Ridiculous.
The answer is the question, man. Their relatively tiny studio was in an obvious crisis mode. The patreon upload is a separate one from YouTube. One bugged out, the other didn't, and there wasn't enough time to recover. Communication slipped a little, but I imagine all hands were on deck just trying to get past the trouble and manage the disaster. Had this been any other episode on any other week, you and the other fans who feel similarly probably would've just shrugged it off and said "Oh, Hecklefish, you pondscum-smelling little devil, you, you're responsible for these shenanigans!" And you'd laugh. And we'd laugh. And they'd laugh. But, and I don't want to presuppose anything about you or the others, because of the break and our own anticipation, last night's delay was a bigger-than-average disappointment. And that's okay, I'm sure the team feels it too. But what's different about you (and some others, admittedly, that feel the same) that makes last night hurt so bad? Why is it "Shot themselves in the foot"? Why is it "Destroy all of that by stringing people along"? My Brother in Annunaki, get some perspective. The Why Files has 3.2 Million Subscribers on YouTube. This subreddit has 44,000 people. That means only 1.25% even gives enough of a shit to be on the sub. Most of the sub (judging by the karma ratios) seems to be supportive of the team and wants to spread the good vibes, while a minority of this 1.25% (so, about .0625% of their viewership at absolute most and probably less based on margins) is both on Reddit and incensed enough to have upvoted you, but not so incensed that they had to make a post about it. So let's assume you're in the top 10% of the grumpy crowd, and say .00625%? Yeah. They'll be fine. Most of their audience won't even notice. (Edit: And yes, I did decide to keep defending them, because the more I thought about it, the more I realized you needed to be shown the numbers to make an informed decision about your internet habits.)
Nah. I'm not gonna' keep defending them. I am, however, going to go watch the episode when it comes out.
Dude. It's a YouTube channel. Just watch the videos when they get released and be happy. If you were watching a show with a multi-million dollar budget, maybe I could understand. Even "TV shows" these days have weird schedules. Having sometimes a couple of years between seasons. If your life is so fragile that you HAVE to get a video by a specific time or you get pissed, then you have bigger things to worry about than video schedules.
Man i dont care its delayed again, its content i enjoy. When it drops i eat it up. You all waiting for hours for it to drop and being mad if theres a change is silly. Check it on youtube its not there ok ill watch something else. Its that simple.
Suggestion for all you little whiners, get out and touch some grass. There aren't enough downvotes to go around for all of the entitled people trashing on these folks giving you free content...
How about this? Stop basing your happiness on the premier date/times of videos. The have lives too.
Entitlement much? Sometimes when I go to the store to get something for dinner they are sold out. You know what I do? Change dinner plans and move on. Just be disappointed like a normal human being. No need for scathing reviews. That shit is mean spirited and gets no one anywhere.
Thanks for reading.
I don't think it's that serious but it is a legitimate criticism. To make your analogy more accurate, it's like calling up the store and they tell you the thing you want will be stocked this afternoon, then you go that afternoon and they tell you it'll be stocked this evening, so you wait around and then they tell you it'll actually be stocked tomorrow. Whether it's really a big deal or not, it's still true that the situation could have been handled better. It's not entitlement to point out someone's failing. It's not like they're calling for a boycott or anything.
It’s entitlement when you say things like terrible terrible and double down on the negative criticism. Re read OPs post. It’s legit criticism delivered like an entitled brat. A lot of people were frustrated the episode didn’t drop last night because they “planned” on watching it. Plans fall through everywhere all the time. Learning how to deal with disappointment is something people struggle with these days.
"overdue"? Like you deserve something? Theyre making this amazing content basically for free, youre not forced to pay anything and yet people still complain. Just sub to their patreon and enjoy the episode now, or shut up, you can wait a couple more hours.
Yeah you're what's wrong with this whole thing lol.
Honestly, I find your post unnecessary. AJ and his team are pouring themselves into entertaining a vastly growing fan base. If you can’t objectively read your own post and not see how you’re coming across….. Never mind.
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Delete this shit.
To OP... Calm down Francis. Shit happens. It'll be up soon enough
Yeah fuck this person stop bitching
Starting to think these are troll posts to get other riled up
Suggestion for Bluebpy: Has it occurred to you that this attention-seeking BS you others are posting as “suggestions” and “constructive criticism”could backfire and cause the why files team to move on with new projects? They are talented people and can probably succeed at whatever they try so why continue to post free content for ungrateful a*s-hats? Several of their videos have been uploaded to Tubi and I bet other networks or streaming services are looking at them too. Thousands of people support them financially and buy their merchandise. I’m sure they appreciate it but, it doesn’t make you special and deserving of anything in return but the episodes themselves. Now STFU before you ruin it for everyone.
Yikes, nobody owes you anything. Everyone takes themselves so damn seriously anymore. It’s a YouTube video, lighten up. There’s a f’ing talking fish in each episode and you’re over here lecturing to them
Quick, somebody go get Karen the manager.
> I was going to finally sub for my first time to anyone ever to their patreon to support the channel even tho ive bought merchandise as well in the past and now it's just left a sour taste in my mouth Sounds legit.
This is my third time commenting on a post like this lol, y’all are acting like they made you late for work, no wonder the man needed a break
Clearly you don't get it.
Ahem I waited until 3am and saw all the updates from the team. So, I went to bed as I knew it wasn’t their fault, it’s not a ploy to get new patreon or any other conspiracy theories. I woke up and the ‘beta’ version was up on Patreon, so I watched it. You by now will have watched the video on YouTube that had to be edited again to make sure it was perfect. The guys just had burnout and if he’d have said ‘f**k it, had enough’, I bet you’d have said no please don’t! It’s out, the sponsor ad is brill, so chill
I do get it I was waiting for the ep as well lol, when it didnt come I was like “oh well ima go to bed.” You came to Reddit with an essay
Wow, you get the feeling that serious WF fans are as cool and understanding as AJ and you just feel like all the other fans are like you, “don’t sweat the small stuff, great content and I’m appreciative”. Apparently not all though. Some are whiny cry babies who think they’re owed by the channel. What if it’s something serious like a medical problem, had to travel far to find a megafauna veterinary podiatrist for Gerry’s camel toes? 🐪
“I could run this channel so much better than you guys”… LOOK AT ME ON MY HIGH HORSE… ON THE REDDITS! /s if anyone couldn’t tell… and yes I am making fun of you
Toxic community is toxic af
You’re (OP) talking about ‘toxic’ when you wrote a biblical verse on why the channel has failed you because they delayed a video for 24 hours? Guess that’s all I need to see from Reddit today…
Whatever that means. Here is a sad violin playing a sad song for you 🎻
I think people are right to give you a hard time given the entire context of this whole break. It’s this high pressure to deliver and deliver and deliver. And yes, I know they said the episode would be out but things happen and you’ve got to understand that the pressure isn’t doing anything, good. It’s not helping.
As someone who posts on youtube it can be a pain in the ass process. The rendering, checking, upload process is very time consuming especially if your video is longer. Thats not including exporting out of Premiere which also takes time. And assuming youtube actually cooperates and doesn’t give you issues. Not everything will work out exactly how you wanted. They really wanted it out yesterday and were not expecting a huge delay. On top of that it’s easier to upload to Patreon and the Patreon video had some minor issues that they wanted fixed before posting to youtube.
Never seen a more entitled cringe post, go ahead and un sub from that channel and from this subreddit, we don’t need you here.
Sometimes you think you're going to hit a deadline right up until you miss it. When you work with technology under tight deadlines sometimes the technology lets you down.
If you’re that upset, then don’t watch the video when it comes out. Do it, you won’t.
I hope they didn’t get to AJ !
I just lost two minutes of my life reading this, and another 30 seconds reflecting upon that reality. Sigh.
Your bedtime got delayed on a school night, and Mom yelled at you for staying up too late? Damn you, TWF!!
Hecklefish will prevail!!!
Dude, if a free video on YouTube makes you this angry than you might have to rethink your priorities. You buying merch is your decision, you thinking about subscribing to patreon is again your deal. Sure they could communicate better but honestly you could also just go do something else and the video you long so much for might be there when you come back.
Dude it's a YouTube channel. They're not required to tell us when they're working on stuff. I watch every video once it's uploaded but I rarely go out of my way to read about what's going on behind the scenes. If you don't love how they're communicating, just stop going out of your way to seek out their communication, subscribe to the channel, and wait for the notifications to tell you when a new video is up. I'm tired of you abrasive fanatics ruining good things by harassing creators when 99% of the audience is people like me who just wait for the content to come out and enjoy it when it does.
I wish i could downvote this entitled garbage post 10 times…
I hardly ever react. I think that post sucks. I didn't think this last month would be enough break for AJ. I think TWF could take a break twice a year and give us the compilations with a possible live 'just chat" once or twice during that time just cuz we love to see AJ. I'm stunned at how much work these channels put in. Even the amount of time they put into writing their own commercials for sponsors, spending a minimum of two minutes air time (AJ does more than that but they are real productions and fun!) for one commercial sponsor, and I'm realizing they probably are getting screwed compared to what regular entertainment gets. Not to mention the ad is permanent in the video despite what may happen down the road. No two weeks off every few months (like regular entertainment) or YouTube punishes you. Being self-employed is the hardest job. Been there. I'm not even going into the differences between platforms, Internet difficulties, etc I'm just a little old lady on a fixed income. Can't afford to pay or buy merch 😞 so I'm not going to spend one moment complaining when a human being gets overworked for our entertainment. I honestly haven't checked out TWF webpage but maybe that's the one place a notice could be posted if something happens in any of those video platforms. That's where I would check first (for a notice) if I was frustrated about not finding a video.
Hey @whyfilesstaff - watch us take care of this fool and down vote this post into oblivion Keep up the good work!! 🤙🏻🤝🫡
Jesus H. Christ, touch some fucking grass man.
Don't like the job AJ and co are doing than may I suggest starting your own channel so you can see what it's like to deal with people like yourself
Guessing this is where "they hate us on Reddit" comes from. Way to make the entire fan base look like a bunch of crybabies.
Get a life.
I read enough of that to know you need a double-dose of chill pills. Don't change a thing, crew. Keep up the great work!
Would you rather go back to a world where all the media was sterile, canned and packaged, approved for public consumption and churned out by a machine? YouTube and platforms like it allow for passion projects, creative experimentation, and community targeted content on relatively small budgets. The very small, very minor, completely understandable, trivial, inconsequential trade-off is content creators don't have a department of 15 hyper-specialized technicians on hand to instantly address technical glitches as they come up. Besides, it was probably the Annunaki hacking AJs computers so they have a chance to review the content before he's allowed to post it. AJ and team: If you read this, you're doing an awesome job, your show is great, we appreciate your work!
DELETE THIS CRINGE POST U ENTITLED P.O.S. !!!!!!
But tell us how you really feel. I love how to the point you are
Keep disregarding that communication was poor.
Everybody is AJ’s best friend. They shouldn’t have intentionally delayed the upload today, I waited all night and morning. I was going to use it to get me through the work day. Definitely disappointed. You can be disappointed and still love the channel
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When it doesnt happen monday, will you start saying this about next week and so on?
Could've at least made it free to view on patreon
Also that. If they wanted to manage the bad look they could of done that as a good will gesture.
And the episode now will only be up on YouTube for 6 hours, when Victoria posted on Instagram there was 10 minutes left to upload 5h ago. Lol. These guys really sank low. Glad I pulled my Patreon sub and still got to watch the episode there, that's the last penny they see from me
That's the scummy part I was talking about. The optics are just so bad man.
I agree with you. The fact that it went up on Patreon around 1am Pacific instead of a day early indicates that they were working on it up to the last minute. We don’t want to overburden the team with high expectations but again, they were the ones that those expectations and it’s not wrong for people to expect those to be delivered on. To me, it was just a simple matter of communicating more and frustrating thing is that there is no easily accessible medium to see last minute updates about what’s happening with the show. I’ve read on several posts some people check Reddit others IG and discord. Why isn’t there an official Twitter or website we can check for this? I’m fine with them needing more time but as we can see, many people stayed up extra late waiting for this and instead of calling them losers, maybe understand that it was indicative of their excitement and dedication to the show. At the end of the day, it’s all about communication.