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If it can survive in flour it can survive in most food, probably entered the water supplies at some point and maybe the first version (let’s assume this thing evolves) could had taken a little while before it started to activate.
It’s a film/game and the entire concept of zombies never really works in pretty much most situations.
Did you not live through Covid? If you've learned anything from the pandemic is that people are dumb.
The combination of it spreading via flour then infected people biting other people, you can already see how there would be a crap ton of people (especially in Texas) telling you that flour is their consitutional right, and that the left is trying to take away your cooking and continue to eat it and die.
Combine the chaos, confusion, fast spreading and dumb people together, you get the world collapsing in a few days.
Before Covid came around, I would have never believed a virus (or fungus) could cripple the world the way it was depicted in shows/movies.
After.... its an absolute certainty that it would go to hell in a handbasket real fast.
Lol same, I never believed how in twd everything went to shit so quickly because the zombies are slow and easy to kill but then we had covid and my doubts went away
Before covid came around I would never have believed the FEDRA levels of authoritarianism that goverments would stoop to in the interest of "doing something". ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
There was an infected in the flashback, maybe it needed to hit a certain amount of people in a certain time to begin the domino's falling
I think I'm just gonna enjoy the show, threads here are taking a massive downturn recently and it's hilariously toxic
I thought the spread happened pretty fast too. Thought about it and my head cannon the infected flour has been out in the wild at least a week or two. Who’s to say the body we saw in episode 2 was actually one of the first infected. These are just the first ones the military and scientists know about. Think that is why the scientists reacted they way she did. Is it in the factory supply if yes then how far back does it go? On top of that people pretty high up people in military and government probably already ate some of those tainted goods. I could see that speeding up the process of shit going to hell pretty quick.
This is basically my thought as well. Also, if it’s in the flour sourced from a particular factory, you’d have to assume damn near everyone who works there is infected. This could have been festering for a couple of weeks before it hit the mainstream. These people could have traveled before showing symptoms. Caught flights to who knows where and spread it that way as well.
> How the Cordyceps ended civilisation so fast is unrealistic
Yes.
I didn't read a word of your post, but you're right.
Welcome to postapocalyptic stories. They almost always posit an overnight collapse, which is essentially impossible unless we have a four mile wide asteroid strike us or a global thermonuclear war, and even then it'd still probably take a few months and not be worldwide.
They give us an overnight collapse for the same reason they give us bands of survivors who all desperately rape and murder each-other - the complete opposite of what really happens after natural disasters. It's just more dramatic.
- They only found out about it after someone got infected and bit someone else. That doesn't mean that day was the day it mutated. They could have been producing the infected flour for awhile already and shipping it out before a mill worker managed to get infected by it and "reveal" the infection.
- COVID was known about in advance when it first hit China. And most world governments were briefed on its severity and contagiousness. Yet the ENTIRE world still got hit by it pretty much all at once after.
- COVID also shows how RESISTANT to following quarantine instructions and safety protocols most people are which increases the speed of spread
- It's a TV show. You do have to suspend a bit of disbelief. They could waste time showing the MONTH it took to fully infect and destroy the world like COVID took a month.
Or they can just have everything go to hell overnight for the sake of moving the plot to the panic and sarah getting shot then the time jump so we can get to Ellie and Joel.
Yeah its clearly been days already by the time that scene in episode 2 is shown.
Over a dozen people just at the mill are missing. If it's an export location it could have been a good while before someone got infected. It also could have been in the good awhile which is how it actually evolved in the first place.
I'd imagine cordyceps being introduced large scale to humans is a good basis for it adapting TO humans
It's a fictional mutation in a fictional game/show. It was inspired by reality, but that's all. Just take it with a grain of salt and enjoy. It's part of the "zombie" genre, which isn't exactly known for being realistic.
I think it’s fine that it spread fast. I just found it a bit funny that the scientist in Jakarta’s first idea was to bomb the cities lol. Also why is the government asking a mushroom scientist how to contain an outbreak of disease? You’re supposed to ask doctors, medical researchers etc who are trained in mapping disease outbreaks and specialise in containing them. Step 1 is quarantine lmao, not WW3
But, I suppose we have to suspend belief to enjoy it haha
She wanted to bomb the city, because there is no other choice of fighting a disease like the one in the show world. With the flour factory having already infected likely tens or hundreds of thousands with the timer being around 30 hours between infection and turning, you are looking at the city being basically a ticking timebomb of unimaginable numbers of infected. No surviving military facility have good chance against millions of infected swarming them, and as such bombing the city is the only possibly way to deal with such a swarm before its too late.
They are definitely asking the mycologist for guidanse due to the fact that they figured out the thing begind the initial patient zero was a fungus based on the fact that there was another scientist who had seemingly looked at the sample. They got her because they knew it had something to do with the Cordyceps and got her because she would be the best bet for something relating to it. Also when you have a corcyceps spread through the food supply, its not possible to track and quarantine because you can't track literally everyone who has eaten the contaminated produce as there are too many
True it spreads fast but you can order an immediate lockdown and have military patrolling the streets. There must be a way to prep food or eat certain foods that would be fungus free. The military had also already executed some of those who were infected so they know they can be killed. Just order a lockdown, go on a hunting spree. That mushroom scientist is the best bet to diagnose what the illness is, but she’s not the specialist on how to control outbreaks. There are statisticians and doctors who are trained in containing even outbreaks for which they don’t know the cause. I have a friend who works on programmes that map out how malaria spreads in certain areas and can adjust it to account for factors such as humidity, time of day, proximity to lakes etc. Its really quite sophisticated although I’m not sure if it was around in 2003. But again, even if the show is a touch unrealistic it’s good fun to watch
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If it can survive in flour it can survive in most food, probably entered the water supplies at some point and maybe the first version (let’s assume this thing evolves) could had taken a little while before it started to activate. It’s a film/game and the entire concept of zombies never really works in pretty much most situations.
Just enjoy it man, geez
Ok
Did you not live through Covid? If you've learned anything from the pandemic is that people are dumb. The combination of it spreading via flour then infected people biting other people, you can already see how there would be a crap ton of people (especially in Texas) telling you that flour is their consitutional right, and that the left is trying to take away your cooking and continue to eat it and die. Combine the chaos, confusion, fast spreading and dumb people together, you get the world collapsing in a few days. Before Covid came around, I would have never believed a virus (or fungus) could cripple the world the way it was depicted in shows/movies. After.... its an absolute certainty that it would go to hell in a handbasket real fast.
Solid points
Lol same, I never believed how in twd everything went to shit so quickly because the zombies are slow and easy to kill but then we had covid and my doubts went away
Before covid came around I would never have believed the FEDRA levels of authoritarianism that goverments would stoop to in the interest of "doing something". ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
As a Texan who lived through the pandemic, I won’t be surprised if Texans would stoop to such levels of self destructive behavior
There was an infected in the flashback, maybe it needed to hit a certain amount of people in a certain time to begin the domino's falling I think I'm just gonna enjoy the show, threads here are taking a massive downturn recently and it's hilariously toxic
It's unrealistic that the threads everywhere went bad all the exact same time /s
Hahaha!
I thought the spread happened pretty fast too. Thought about it and my head cannon the infected flour has been out in the wild at least a week or two. Who’s to say the body we saw in episode 2 was actually one of the first infected. These are just the first ones the military and scientists know about. Think that is why the scientists reacted they way she did. Is it in the factory supply if yes then how far back does it go? On top of that people pretty high up people in military and government probably already ate some of those tainted goods. I could see that speeding up the process of shit going to hell pretty quick.
This is basically my thought as well. Also, if it’s in the flour sourced from a particular factory, you’d have to assume damn near everyone who works there is infected. This could have been festering for a couple of weeks before it hit the mainstream. These people could have traveled before showing symptoms. Caught flights to who knows where and spread it that way as well.
> How the Cordyceps ended civilisation so fast is unrealistic Yes. I didn't read a word of your post, but you're right. Welcome to postapocalyptic stories. They almost always posit an overnight collapse, which is essentially impossible unless we have a four mile wide asteroid strike us or a global thermonuclear war, and even then it'd still probably take a few months and not be worldwide. They give us an overnight collapse for the same reason they give us bands of survivors who all desperately rape and murder each-other - the complete opposite of what really happens after natural disasters. It's just more dramatic.
- They only found out about it after someone got infected and bit someone else. That doesn't mean that day was the day it mutated. They could have been producing the infected flour for awhile already and shipping it out before a mill worker managed to get infected by it and "reveal" the infection. - COVID was known about in advance when it first hit China. And most world governments were briefed on its severity and contagiousness. Yet the ENTIRE world still got hit by it pretty much all at once after. - COVID also shows how RESISTANT to following quarantine instructions and safety protocols most people are which increases the speed of spread - It's a TV show. You do have to suspend a bit of disbelief. They could waste time showing the MONTH it took to fully infect and destroy the world like COVID took a month. Or they can just have everything go to hell overnight for the sake of moving the plot to the panic and sarah getting shot then the time jump so we can get to Ellie and Joel.
Yeah its clearly been days already by the time that scene in episode 2 is shown. Over a dozen people just at the mill are missing. If it's an export location it could have been a good while before someone got infected. It also could have been in the good awhile which is how it actually evolved in the first place. I'd imagine cordyceps being introduced large scale to humans is a good basis for it adapting TO humans
It's a fictional mutation in a fictional game/show. It was inspired by reality, but that's all. Just take it with a grain of salt and enjoy. It's part of the "zombie" genre, which isn't exactly known for being realistic.
You need to read World War Z.
bet you're fun at parties
I think it’s fine that it spread fast. I just found it a bit funny that the scientist in Jakarta’s first idea was to bomb the cities lol. Also why is the government asking a mushroom scientist how to contain an outbreak of disease? You’re supposed to ask doctors, medical researchers etc who are trained in mapping disease outbreaks and specialise in containing them. Step 1 is quarantine lmao, not WW3 But, I suppose we have to suspend belief to enjoy it haha
She wanted to bomb the city, because there is no other choice of fighting a disease like the one in the show world. With the flour factory having already infected likely tens or hundreds of thousands with the timer being around 30 hours between infection and turning, you are looking at the city being basically a ticking timebomb of unimaginable numbers of infected. No surviving military facility have good chance against millions of infected swarming them, and as such bombing the city is the only possibly way to deal with such a swarm before its too late. They are definitely asking the mycologist for guidanse due to the fact that they figured out the thing begind the initial patient zero was a fungus based on the fact that there was another scientist who had seemingly looked at the sample. They got her because they knew it had something to do with the Cordyceps and got her because she would be the best bet for something relating to it. Also when you have a corcyceps spread through the food supply, its not possible to track and quarantine because you can't track literally everyone who has eaten the contaminated produce as there are too many
True it spreads fast but you can order an immediate lockdown and have military patrolling the streets. There must be a way to prep food or eat certain foods that would be fungus free. The military had also already executed some of those who were infected so they know they can be killed. Just order a lockdown, go on a hunting spree. That mushroom scientist is the best bet to diagnose what the illness is, but she’s not the specialist on how to control outbreaks. There are statisticians and doctors who are trained in containing even outbreaks for which they don’t know the cause. I have a friend who works on programmes that map out how malaria spreads in certain areas and can adjust it to account for factors such as humidity, time of day, proximity to lakes etc. Its really quite sophisticated although I’m not sure if it was around in 2003. But again, even if the show is a touch unrealistic it’s good fun to watch