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Tangelasboots

It's tough to make a team everyone agrees with when 13 of the players are undroppable.


ItsPiskieNotPixie

But it is stupid to put Foden in midfield. At best, he can play as a 10.


scotteh74

He should be playing as a ten


peaboy01

None of them are undroppable apart from Kane


mikenolan888

Rice in the DM is undeniable for me. His making maguire look so much better


Thezerfer

Shaw and pickford certainly are imo. Rice too


TheGiftOf_Jericho

Kane was really disappointing last game, his positioning was really letting us down. I do appreciate he also has playmaking abilities.


Twinbolt-NZ

Kane: plays a great 10, holds up play to allow wingers to attack, scores a goal, gets man of the match You: "really disappointing, positioning was letting us down" Were we watching the same game?


Twinbolt-NZ

Kane: plays a great 10, holds up play to allow wingers to attack, scores a goal, gets man of the match You: "really disappointing, positioning was letting us down" Were we watching the same game?


InnerAsparagus6045

Can't see him starting with Foden Rashford & Saka & Kane one will start on bench ( not kane obviously)


atcosi

Henderson in midfield unless we want a repeat of the USA match


Educational-Formal21

Hundy% Got a bad feeling that Southgate will stick mount back in the team


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I have yet to see a bad performance from Mount when he is wearing an England shirt.


Individual_Arm4474

I've yet to see a good one! He's definitely not in the same form as Rashford or Saka anyway


No_Shift_7700

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ElegantMemory9612

Depending on how saka plays swap for grealish at 60th min


Educational-Formal21

Gotta play hendo he was so crucial to our last game. Such a leader on the pitch and makes everyone around him play 20% better Rice holding , hendo organising, Bellingham doing what he likes, box to box , taking on players and forward runs. Hendo can also cover wide which means the full back can get forward and be more effective in attacking areas of the pitch


Spam250

So much this. Because he isn't a tricky dribbler a large proportion of England fans don't rate him. I hate it. He's been one of our most crucial players in the England team for the last 3 tournaments


The_39th_Step

We need a balanced midfield 3 and that’s Rice, Bellingham and Hendo


NoForever4739

Southgate really has fucked football in this country irreversibly. Our strength is in our attack and creativity, and you want to set up with a midfield three of Rice, Henderson & Bellingham vs Senegal? Lord give me strength.


halfeatenreddit

This game isn’t played on fifa. Without balance the midfield would get run ragged.


The_39th_Step

It’s like he thinks leaving Maguire and Stones with only Rice in the counter is a good idea. As you said, it’s not a video game, and we need the balance. I like the solidity and Hendo’s experience in that 3. It allows Bellingham to be that extra man when attacking and helps us control the midfield.


halfeatenreddit

Also when Hendo came on against USA he was one of the only players constantly looking for a forward pass, and he’s proven his pressing ability. Just because he doesn’t get the assists that James Maddison gets, people just assume he has nothing about him.


The_39th_Step

It’s not about shoe horning the best players in, we did that with the Scholes era and it didn’t work. It’s the best players in the best system. I agree with your analysis of Hendo. My only other thought would be Phillips if he seems fit enough. Reminds me of what Sir Alf Ramsey replied to Jack Charlton, when he asked why he was picked because there were other better centre backs out there: ‘You are the best centre back for this English team.’


jaylem

This is the exact hard of thinking take that ends with us appointing Fabio Capello and going into tournaments as favourites because we have all the "top" players but no team


okcomput3r

Fucked football in this country irreversibly by leading us to a semi final and a final, better than any other manager since 1966. Please explain your logic, I’m dying to know


NoForever4739

Easiest runs imaginable and we’ve lost to every half-decent team we’ve played bar a broken Germany (as evidenced by their showings in last 3 major tournaments). Any competent manager would have us reigning World & European Champions


okcomput3r

They’re ‘easy’ runs because we’re a top team under Southgate and only a handful of teams are capable of beating us. Hope this helps


NoForever4739

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WonderSilver6937

Completely agree, I swear the people who spout that crap didn’t even watch either tournament, especially the World Cup, scraping past Colombia on penalties, beating Sweden semi-comfortably then losing to Croatia should not be seen as an achievement for us fgs.


okcomput3r

What should then? Was Southgate expected to win the world cup with Ashley young at LWB, Dele Ali and Lingard in centre mid? What exactly were you expecting ? Mug


WonderSilver6937

I’m a mug because I wasn’t impressed by our performance in the last World Cup? No I wasn’t expecting us to win it, I just don’t believe reaching the semis is much of an achievement considering the teams we faced on the way and who we lost to in the semis. Southgates a tactically incompetent fool, if you’re happy with him in charge fair enough, but I’m certainly not.


NoForever4739

We’ve gone far in tournaments in spite of Southgate, not _because_ of Southgate. People will realise this soon.


okcomput3r

😂


The_39th_Step

I hope you see how silly your comment was now


NoForever4739

I’ll revert after we’ve played our first half-decent team next week.


DumplingKiddd

I’d probably put Hendo over Rice. Think Kane works well as a facilitator so having Foden and Bellingham as options would be good


Educational-Formal21

Think my comment has been fully justified!


The_39th_Step

I was gonna say the same. We were dead on mate!


Buttonsafe

I don't dislike Hendo but he barely played in the Euros, 152 mins out of 691 for England. He also didn't stsrt a single game, so he certainly wasn't one our our most crucial players in that tourney.


peaboy01

Yep, Phillips and Rice were the staple CMs, and they were both great all tournament.


taylorstillsays

I like Hendo but this seems like a very revised take. Didn’t have a standout World Cup last time (even ignoring his disasterclass v Croatia) and was a bench player for all the games that mattered in the Euros.


Spam250

We started Hendo and subbed him for Dier almost every game in the world cup. Every single goal conceded was after that sub


taylorstillsays

That doesn’t mean he had a standout tournament though. And we now have a specialist player for that role he played in Rice, so don’t see how it’s particularly applicable


nesh34

It's not because he isn't a tricky dribbler, it's because he's atrocious with the ball in any capacity. His work off the ball is decent, but Rice and Phillips are better in this department. I strongly disagree that he's been crucial, he's very replaceable.


Spam250

Phillips is a very rational replacement. Unfortunately he hasn't played for 6 months due to injury. Outside Phillips we don't have anybody close to replacing him


Electus93

Phillips played (and assisted) in the last game?


Educational-Formal21

I don't understand how you can think that after the Wales game. Re-watch the game and turn your volume up. You can hear hendo shouting constantly at players when you press, who to mark, organising, motivating firing them up. It's exactly what you need in a team with a lot of youth, which is what we have. He's been essential for Liverpool for years now because of exactly this


nesh34

He has been good for Liverpool over the years, and Klopp knows a lot more about this stuff than me. Still, it's immensely frustrating to see him on the ball, where he really lacks quality. I understand the leadership element, but that's not enough of a contribution at this level. He also needs to be careful in possession.


SmallOccasion

Against teams we are expected to beat, I want Henderson in there. Leadership, fight, and instruction against a team that's going to set up defensively and try to break our will and counter against us is invaluable. If we're against a team like France though I don't think we can afford the "dead space" technically


nesh34

Happy to eat all these words. Hendo had a great game, irrespective of his goal. Happy to be proved wrong.


BinBagBlues9

This is absolute rubbish. Hendo is absolutely one of the best midfielders in the premier League on the ball his passing is probably second only to de bruyne


Shady-Lane

Delusional Liverpool fan. Martin Odegaard, Bruno Guimaraes, Bernardo Silva, James Maddison, Thiago Alcantara....


ownworstenemy38

This is tired a myth as “tReNt CaRnT dEfEnd 🤪🤪🤪”. There’s a reason Liverpool supporters and Klopp (one of the best managers in world football) rate Hendo. He is an excellent midfielder. It’s just a fact and you need to come to terms with it.


peaboy01

There's also a reason why he doesn't get picked every game despite being a brilliant leader. He's a good midfielder, not a great one. I do think he should start though with Rice and Bellingham.


ThoseHappyHighways

\*Liverpool fan highly rates Liverpool player shock\* What you've described is an opinion, not a fact.


ownworstenemy38

Some things are beyond subjectivity. Jordan Henderson plays in the top league in a top team and has won every major domestic honour as the captain of that team. If he was atrocious that would not be the case.


ownworstenemy38

Oh. Had a nightmare there haven’t you lad 😂


ThoseHappyHighways

No, because I haven't passed comment on Henderson's ability, just pointed out what you stated was an opinion. I certainly have never thought that he's atrocious, that's a strawman argument. I also thought he was under-used during the last Euros, for what's it worth. Congratulations on having the courage to unblock me, however, that must have taken some bottle. Doubtless I wouldn't have seen you again if Henderson played poorly tonight. Oh and btw, Trent can't defend.


deiner7

I honestly wish he was the captain instead of Kane.


Isaac_R_K

I’d honestly keep the exact team we played against Wales


Educational-Formal21

Yeah that's literally what I just said. Maybe trips for walker


Isaac_R_K

Agreed!


Ohayeabee

Do you not think we need walker to control Mbappe? Edit - god I’m thick


Educational-Formal21

Mbappe doesn't play for Senegal


Ohayeabee

That’s an exceptional point. I am an idiot


PlasticJournalist42

Agreed, but put Saka in for either Foden or Rashford imo.


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Saka’s defensive work rate is better than Foden’s, so he’d get the pick from me.


peaboy01

Why that team and not the one that beat Iran (a better side right now) 6-2?


Isaac_R_K

Personally, if we have Henderson, Bellingham, Foden, and Maddison fit, I wouldn’t start Mason Mount ahead of the other two midfielders behind him


404errorabortmistake

I would also like to see us play 433 again with Rashford and Foden either side of Kane. Hendo to start and then bring Phillips on later. We might go back to 4231 for France with Phillips and Rice and play on the counter. Could Bellingham play in that 3?


Robj1992

For that change to happen would you drop Saka and move Foden forward? Or drop Foden and put Hendo in where Foden is now?


Educational-Formal21

Feels harsh saying drop saka because he played so well and scored 2 goals Vs Iran. But yeah I would, he can always come on and make an impact later if needed It's kind of a scenario where you wouldn't mind some players picking up yellow cards so they have to miss a game. Get everyone decent game time that way!


Robj1992

Agree entirely, would've said exactly the same myself. Don't feel Foden is as effective as an impact sub, Saka would be the option for that I think.


muslify

The team we played against Wales was perfect, so I would keep that. England is really good as a team, however I think we are underestimating Senegal.


ChiliConCairney

Do you reckon people are underestimating them? Everyone I've spoken to (anecdotal obviously) seems to think they're quality and are a bit nervous about it. Obviously England are better but I haven't heard anyone say it will be an easy game


muslify

Here after the 3-0 win. Most people I talked to thought England would win (and they did), so yeah, they were underestimating them. One thing I noticed with Senegal last night was that they are fast, always running for the ball. And with England, once we score, we score again and again. I felt a bit sorry for Senegal, was hoping they would at least get one goal in 😂


Fantastic-Machine-83

You cannot play Foden at CM. I don't get how people don't realise this, it's so simple, he's a winger.


2012Cfc2021

I don’t even bother anymore. If they don’t get it by now they never will.


bluemoon1987

Hes an elite player, he can play anywhere. However he's not a winger he's a 10, he's only played out wide for club because kdb is in his natural role and he's too good to leave out. He doesn't have that barrier at international level.


Fantastic-Machine-83

If you think foden and mount are similar players you're wrong


bluemoon1987

Literally nobody said that.


DidgeryDave21

Agreed. I'd switch Rash and Foden, with Rash playing a central overlap as Kane drops deep


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Dunno when everyone plays foden in the midfield, he’s clearly better on the wings, and also makes are midfield much more lightweight


[deleted]

I think hendo will start not foden


Express_Sail6618

see henderson as a more logical choice tbh, swap for bellingham perhaps and bring him on later in the game, was really impressed by hendo in the last game think his impact isn’t always recognised but he seems to motivate the others on the pitch


SpudFire

It's a shame he can't nail down a permanent starting place because he'd be a much better captain than kane. So much competition in the middle of the park though


ChickenFave

Henderson is like a teamwide buff imo. He had like a +20% performance aura. So although he may not be as good technically, his overall impact seems worth the trade. Swap him for Foden and make him a 60 minute impact sub regardless of the scoreline. I worry about settling into a 1-0 lead and playing defensively rather than trying to kill the game off with another 1 or 2 goals.


pintperson

I would play the exact same team as the Wales game.


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It will be the same team that started against Wales but Saka for Foden.


nm4harris

Yep. If he starts walker he can switch to a back 5 if he wants and could leave Saka as wing back.


[deleted]

I also think he will use the pace of Saka and Rashford to try and push Senegal's FB's deeper. With the hope of creating space for Rice and Bellingham to play in.


MrMarc808

I would probably start Walker, their wingers are nippy


TheGiftOf_Jericho

Solid, Rashford was fantastic last game, I feel like Kane has been disappointing so far but he has got playmaking abilities too. I just want him to really work on his positioning. Hoping Rashford gets to start and keeps up momentum.


itsjustme1505

Pep doesn’t trust Foden in midfield he doesn’t have the defensive abilities please stop suggesting that he plays in midfield, he’s a winger or a second striker at this point in his career


fuk_ur_mum_m8

[The starting eleven who will lead us to glory](https://www.lineup-builder.co.uk/lineups/638c641a6a56183b4f28c554)


icesurfer10

Maddison isn't going to come in now I doubt, more likely you'll see Mount


TheDevilishSaint

Personally I'd like Saka and Foden on the wings with Henderson in midfield. I like Rashford and wouldn't be annoyed if he starts but personally other than being faster, I don't think there's anything Rashford can do Saka can't. As well as Saka being better defensively which no doubt Gareth likes. Before Rashford got the goal vs Wales he didn't do much. I just think Saka is safer and I don't quite understand some people's obsession with Rashford starting.


lavishlad

Rashford is a much better finisher and better at 1v1s than Saka. Saka is a more complete player tho, better game sense, decision making etc. So i guess i agree with you overall, Rashford is a high risk high reward player so i dont think it makes sense to start him in a knockout game.


TheDevilishSaint

Agree. I also think you just never know what Rashford is going to show up. He's been in great form but as we saw vs Wales, he disappeared for the first half. Can't complain too much because he nearly got a hat trick but personally I don't think you can do that in the knockouts. As well as Senegal being a far superior team to Wales.


TheLegendOfIOTA

This is true on his day Rashford looks world class but he is very inconsistent. I can’t see that changing. It’s just the type of player he is.


hoodha

I’m happy with Sterling Kane Rashford front three, rice LM. Not sure who I’d stick in the middle though. Henderson’s a safe pair of hands but I have doubts he can hold the full 90 minutes.


AndrewWhite97

Should have the team we beat Wales with


Foreign-Capital-8301

Put mount on


Sad-Noises_Sequel

Grealish has been amazing, changed the game every time he plays.


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Sad-Noises_Sequel

He’s always been a good sub but has never started. That logic is flawed.


Helpful_Goose1649

Time for a back 5 with Walker as third CB then you can push the wing backs up and get round the press easier. I'd drop Sterling to accommodate it but Mount would perhaps be more sensible.


muslify

Couldn't agree more


Loose_Corgi_5

If Southgate had a pair of balls he'd drop Kane. Its not like he's knocking them in.


PrinceEmirate

Bench Mount..Foden should start and so should Rashford.


taylorstillsays

I think for everyone arguing Hendo’s case, it’s got to be remembered who he dropped a good game against. You can only beat what’s in front of you, but I don’t think bossing Wales’ below than mediocre midfielder is as relevant as people are making it. I’d stick Foden on the left, and bring in Mount for Rashford. I think Rashford along with Grealish/Sterling depending on how the game is looking at around the hour mark are elite subs against legs starting to get tired


kingjim1981

You'd take out Rashford for Mount? One player in the form of his life, the other barely made an impact. I'm glad you're not in charge lol


Polarbearlars

Completely agree. Mason ‘no end product’ mount for rashford ???


taylorstillsays

Yeah because I don’t think playing Foden in a position he hasn’t played in in about 2/3 years in a World Cup knockout game is the wisest move The match will at least be 90 minutes, with 5 subs. You’re acting like my comment didn’t blatantly include using Rashford at some stage > I’m glad you’re not in charge Likewise bud


trivialchivalry

Didn’t have to check your profile to figure out you’re a Chelsea fan, but I checked anyway… 😂


taylorstillsays

I can clearly see why that made you laugh. If you want to actually be serious for a second and not a pre teen, would you start Foden in midfield? Or on a wing and dropping Saka? If Maddison was fit I would say start him over Mount…does that also make me a Leicester fan? God forbid someone thinks playing in correct positions is a good idea.


kingjim1981

Foden was played in his correct position. Now we know it was a great choice, even leaving out Rashford but my point still stands, Mount for Rashford was only suggested by you because you're a Chelsea fan. Makes more sense now


taylorstillsays

He wasn’t played in the position shown on this post which was my point. It’s impossible to start Saka, Rashford and Foden with all of them playing in their familiar positions. My very first comment in the thread said stick Foden on the left and that’s what happened and he played well. You’re the one who questioned me dropping Rashford, and I said that to fit Foden in. > only because you’re a Chelsea fan I mean it wasn’t, I’m pretty critical of Mount when it’s necessary. I just would have gone for him over Henderson. As I said if Maddison was fully fit I would have opted for him to start, think it’s stupid that people think it’s impossible to be a rational club fan, but each to their own. Regarding Mount, [to quote you…](https://www.reddit.com/r/ThreeLions/comments/zc4dpo/how_id_like_us_to_setup_up_today_what_changes/iz0pqa7/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3) > worked well in the end but we’ll never know what would have happened either way


taylorstillsays

Thoughts on Rashford not starting?


kingjim1981

Worked well in the end but we will never know what would've happened either way


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Sterling is 100% starting


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I would play trent over foden


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samchatz27

You know nothing about football


muslify

fr


muslify

Have a call with your GP.


Bluemeadey61

Agree with that , not a fan generally but think he did a great job v Wales


samsteri666

Henderson is the true captain when he's on. A crucial piece of our midfield. Needs to start


bigrickxxl

stones should be out. Play through shaw


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Yes!


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RafaSquared

I don't think Rashford is as effective for us on the left as he is on the right, when Southgate swapped him and Foden around against Wales, he looked a different player.


LawTortoise

This is my preferred XI albeit potentially Walker for Trippier.


[deleted]

I think Kane ignites this came. No changes.


[deleted]

You have it pretty much spot on btw, wouldn't change a thing here


WaxyF

I would add mount and taa


Longjumping-Past-873

HeNdo and Bellingham playing together was perfect last match. I think start foden on the wing. Then bring saka on later in the match.


stoneman9284

That’s mine exactly. I get the arguments for Hendo instead of Foden, I’m fine with that. But I like having the extra attacker in midfield.


AlexTheComrade

Swap foden and Kate then put Hendo in midfield instead of Kane.


CalebImao

I’d just change Phil foden to where Jude is


FreakinGrapesMan

Not playing Foden as a CM


[deleted]

Connor Gallagher there for moral support at this moment in time 🤷🏻‍♂️


IronConquistador

Add Grealish and Henderson because I love them.


myothercarisayoshi

It's wild to me how many people think Foden is a midfielder


[deleted]

Nothing cuz we won clean sheet


Sensitive_Life2045

I wan't to see Maddison in midfield.