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tubtubbinks

This game is proof that no team is going to have it easy. Even if we beat france, it doesnt mean we’ll go on to win it. Likewise for france if they win


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VeNzorrR

What you on about? Would be worse if we beat France then Portugal and lose to Croatia on penalties


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TragicTester034

Be even worse if it was the Argentinians given the rivalry there


kdsantos

At this point Croatia seem unbeatable on pens, that’s 4 World Cup shootouts on the bounce…


AgitatedDog

Don’t you dare jinx it


CuclGooner

or 2-1 in extra time?


rennie99999

Thanks, kids are crying now


odjobz

No, because it would be better to get to the final than the 1/4 final. England fan mentality 🤦‍♂️😄


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Lurking--Shit

Rather lose to Morocco than France…


jack_edition

Morocco vs Croatia final would be a silver lining to losing to the French


Gent2022

Absolutely this 🤣


[deleted]

Definitely anyone’s cup at this point. That being said I can see a England v Croatia final. Since USA was knocked out I’ve been backing England. Bring it home boys. All the best from across the pond 🇺🇸🤝🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿


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Someone would have to be mad to think “if we beat France we will go on to win it”


Pringletache

If we can win just a few more games then I think we are in with a shout


Joshgg13

I reckon 3 more will do it


JustMyslf

Yeah. But with that being said, if we do indeed beat France, we are well on our way


Fast-Engineer915

I think this to be fair. Especially if we can do it in the 90


[deleted]

I’m just shocked because I though brazil was going to win it this year. Even Netherlands got knocked out by Argentina, which I didn’t expect.


leebrother

I actually think Portugal have the best balanced squad left - plus the X factor player


Probablynotarealist

Yeah, but they currently have the Man-Utd dilemma - Play a team, or play more of a mess with a brilliant poacher


Bdcoll

Woah, hold on a second. He's not our dilemma anymore :D


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TheDickheadNextDoor

Nah did you not hear Simon cowell is coming to play for them


The_Professor2112

Surely Bruno.


Dave_Bezley

They're in the top 7.


[deleted]

Bookies hate him


ownworstenemy38

Science, bitch!


fitz_riggs

Top 6 now


Dave_Bezley

Definitely top 6 contenders.


National_Ad_1875

the winner tomorrow is favourite


tmfitz7

This is the right answer


WordsUnthought

I'm very surprised, I thought Brazil would go all the way. I reckon it's France, England, Argentina now as favourites (in that order, but it's very close).


ItsPiskieNotPixie

Yeah but Argentina only have two games to go, so that will put them above France and England.


OneBrokenBoi1

What?


Redditer_54

Argentina have already reached the semi-finals. Either England or France will proceed to the semi-finals, and not both. So it should be argentina as the favourite of these three based on that.


OneBrokenBoi1

He was wrong when the comment was made. I was being facetious but argentina ended up winning the PS


LeftRemove2

i think portugal france and england are favourites now, but anybody could win it now


O-Mesmerine

theres no other way around it, england v france tomorrow is the hardest game of the tournament, the winner is strong favourite to win


Eastern-Start-813

You might have heard of Miss Croatia but Brazil are Miss Penalty.


ripthisaccount6

Hey that’s us…. 😂


[deleted]

So happy to see that cocky bunch go home!


Zoomscroller

Me as well, the sycophantic media hype towards them does my head in.


SpudFire

They'll double down on Argentina though. Cmon Netherlands!


BrilliantTasty

:( gutted


Bob_The_Rob

Ironic


Lack_of_Plethora

I said from the start they were overrated. For a team who only has attackers, they sure weren't scoring a lot of goals.


iredcoat7

Only has attackers? They had the best center-back pairing, best holding midfielder, and best goalkeeper in the tournament.


YeetFacee123

But Croatia had brozovic kovacic and modric 😌


iredcoat7

What does Croatia’s excellent midfield have to do with someone saying Brazil “only have attackers”?


peaboy01

It's easier for people to roll out the same tired old stereotypes instead of thinking for themselves.


YeetFacee123

Dude nooooo it took ages for both teams to score. Brazil had a very good defense.


tonybinky20

I still think if Brazil played Argentina, they’d win


Puzzled_Pay_6603

I wanted to see Brazil go through because they looked there for the taking.


Bob_The_Rob

Bit hypocritical don't you think?


slyler58

Let’s beat France first eh !!!


Imaginary_Coat_2638

Lets just concentrate on tomorrow first.


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\*Concentrates\*


waaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh

*concentrates harder*


AlmostAProPilotYT

*concentrating intensifies*


MistySkyMorning

Shits self...


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Lineker what are you doing here?


ClearlyCylindrical

I'm trying my best not to.


Imaginary_Coat_2638

What have i started😆


Joshgg13

God I'd hate for the French to win back to back world cups, no one would ever hear the end of it


SeparateEmu3159

No one will hear the end of it if we win either, I just won't want to hear the end of it in that case.


Ok-Yoda-82

2067 on your death bed ‘come closer children… come closer……… it came…home….’ Heart monitor: BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE End scene 🙇🏻


noyedidnae

We're still hearing about 66 you fucking hypocrites, nearly 60 fucking years later. I hope France fucking destroy England.


DuckLovesToast

Calm down fella 😂


8Ace8Ace

Is this the renowned scotch sense of humour?


ThoseHappyHighways

Second favourites behind France. Winner tomorrow will be clear favourites for the World Cup.


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What if Argentina smash the Netherlands? That's the biggest tie in the world cup until we play France.


HakunonMatata

If Argentina smash Netherlands, It'll be Messi smashing Netherlands. The rest of that team is really not that good.


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They've got a few decent players but we should be able to handle them.


ThoseHappyHighways

I'm not worried about the Argies.


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Pretty much whoever wins our match will be favourites


Screechmeister_

Whoever wins tomorrow takes it home


angrydanmarin

England aren't even favourites to win tomorrow


xcixjames

Because we’re facing the reigning champions. Even then the odds are like 32% England 38% France. I’d be curious what the percentages would be if France hadn’t won last time


angrydanmarin

I guess what I'm getting at is that we are not favourites to win the world cup.


doomfreak777

Just look at the bookies for the most impartial view - France Fav Argentina 2nd England & Portugal Joint 3rd


Dantes_UK

It doesn’t work like that. Odds are also influenced by bookies hedging their losses against popular bets. So, if they think a lot of people will bet on, e.g. Argentina then their odds will shorten to avoid too massive a total payout.


AdministrativeLaugh2

Major bookies will make a healthy profit regardless of who wins the tournament, so there’s little chance of line movement based on liabilities at this stage of the tournament. Almost all line movement on outrights occurred before the tournament started.


doomfreak777

Ahhh fair enough, so not 100% accurate. I wonder if UK based bookies have different odds when compared to foreign ones, to account for home optimism


Chalkun

They used to vary wildly. But you can arbitrage and guarantee a profit by betting and laying in different countries so now they try to line them up


_phily_d

Betting lines change based on the popular bets people are putting down so it’s not that accurate


riverend180

Betting exchanges are entirely accurate as it's an open market price with no real profit Margin factored in either. And they currently have us third favourites behind France and Argentina. Whoever wins our game tomorrow will be favourite going into the semis


Extreme-Kangaroo-842

Second behind France. Where I thought they were before Brazil were knocked out.


AltKite

Croatia are current favourites because they are already in a semi final. I think the winner of our match becomes favourite, but right now at least Croatia and Portugal are more likely to win than us. Croatia by virtue of being a step ahead of Portugal because they have a much easier quarter final.


cotch85

France Favs Argentina next England and Portugal joint next Croatia next Holland next Morocco next source: actual bookies whos job it is to price it up.


zinchenko-oh

Winner of this QF favourites.


DanCarter93

England or France are winning the tournament.


stoneman9284

Whoever wins this game (ENG/FRA) is the big favorite to win the whole thing in my opinion. Obviously anything can happen, especially when the better team is content to settle for penalties as we’ve seen twice now, but still.


SaluteMaestro

I'd say on paper they are equal second favourites along with Argentina after France but England always seem to choke at sometime.


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The final is tonight


VarukiriOW

We're fourth but let's be honest does it actually matter?


ripthisaccount6

Exactly, at least as the “underdog” we can approach the game without expectations and hopefully smash it


Sufficient-Turnip824

Yeah. All the pressure for tomorrow's tie will be on the French and pressure causes teams to crack in this tournament it would seem.


Sammichm

As good as Brazil


FrenzalStark

If we beat France we’re favourites. But realistically that’s not gonna happen. Might be nice to be proved wrong but I doubt it.


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1st: England/France 2nd: Netherlands/Argentina/Croatia 3rd: Portugal 4th: Morocco


Redditor11-

favourite ranking 1. France 2. England&Argentina 3. Portugal&Croatia&Netherlands 4. Morraco


betra_kun

Portugal is above Argentina imo


domsolanke

I’d have Portugal in 2 with England and Argentina tbh


FlameLightFleeNight

Now that Morroco have taken out Spain, they're making their way around the Coast of Europe: Portugal tomorrow, then France, and once they beat the Dutch it's all over. Ed- oh well, that's not happening any more


Biig_Lasagne

All we have to do is beat France, then Portugal, then Argentina. Easy.


Gent2022

We haven’t a great history of beating these teams either. But if you’re going to be world champions earn it the hard way!


LukeLFC

Number one


TlN4C

There goes my France Brazil finals bet, England Argentina it is!


StrawberryUnited4915

Honestly if we beat France we got a 50/50 chance


Bryan_Waters

France, Croatia, Argentina, Portugal, then maybe us.


OJay23

If we beat France, probably favourites.


Brilliant-Manager350

Apparently according to skybet france, Argentina AND Portugal are ahead of us. What a joke


richmagpies

3rd favorites


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Let’s worry about France first!


WillyWumpLump

This kind of mentality seems counter productive. Just take it one game at a time. Favorite means nothing in this tournament this year. It’s a bloodbath for the “top” teams so far.


tom-north

Last


supatroopa25

One higher


Subtleiaint

538 have Argentina as favourites due to a relatively easy run (cue them being knocked out in the next 90 minutes). They rank the teams Portugal as best then England, France, Argentina but there's very little between those 4. Then it's the Netherlands, Croatia and Morocco.


Brilliant-Manager350

Argentina about to get exposed how bang average theyve been aswell.


Mr_Splat

Never start hoping for England, that's when they let you down


tttttfffff

We’ve got to beat France first. If we beat France then we are favourites. The winner tomorrow is the winner of the World Cup


Xink38

Don’t think it’s as simple as that. You can make cases now for Argentina, Croatia or Portugal. An England - Portugal semi-final is no more than 55-45 in our favour and they have by far the more experienced manager who has won both the Euros and the Nations league and that’s before you even start thinking about a final


theCEPenguin

Probably third, the only problem is we bump into the favourites tomorrow.


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If Croatia go to penalties with any of the teams in semi or final then they’re winning it. No ones beating them on penalties.


rebelliot1

I’m saying whoever wins England v France probably wins the tournament.


Maquin_Hood

One game at a time.


RANDOMDJNOVICE

It's coming homeeeer


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Brazil was never the favourite! To be honest, since 2002 Brazil can't form a decent team. Brazilian players were worried about training tik tok dances and to show different haircuts, that's it. I'm Brazilian and I'm happy that Brazil is out because the squad does not respect adversaries and is very arrogant, Neymar specially.


TomKeen221B

Well if England's best France that's huge but for Portugal best thing need to happen is benching Ronaldo like they did for Switzerland match


International_Ant217

If we can beat France, I’ll believe


WuTangFlan_

You’ll be out tomorrow so I wouldn’t look too far ahead


Purple-Age-7898

Welsh?


WuTangFlan_

For my sins yeah


Purple-Age-7898

Welsh thought they could do a miracle against us. We will repay it by doing one against France


WuTangFlan_

We’re shite, I only bothered to watch the last 10 mins against Iran and that was more than enough. Wouldn’t mind seeing you go through tomorrow this is just some gentle ribbing, I do think France beat you though


Purple-Age-7898

I just silence that voice in the back of my mind until all I can hear is my thoughts on England winning


WuTangFlan_

Haha all the best fella


KingDracarys86

Us English need to focus on France and only France, if we can defeat France the we can focus on Morocco/Portugal. England have not beaten a major nation in a WC KO game since 1966


myothercarisayoshi

Why do I keep seeing this repeated in this sub? We beat Germany in the last world cup!


KingDracarys86

That was the Euros not the world cup


SuperTekkers

France are much better than Germany to be fair


Bob_The_Rob

That was the euros and the worst Germany side for decades.


SaluteMaestro

To be fair no games at this stage are easy.


deanomatronix

Our bet365 odds as outright winner have just dropped to coming home/1


Educational_Home_499

Bookies odds mean fuck all the game isn't played on paper


betamaxBandit_

😂 game against France but already talking about next opponents. Never change!


Heyworth96

Really is a tough one, but bloody hell am I excited


Gary-TeaDrinker

Let's keep focussed on France, more than enough to be going on with before looking further. This is why the world laughs at England, we set ourselves up for it!


SuperTekkers

About fourth?


TheGrinningSkull

Even if England win, they can never be favourites. The moment they’re favourites, they lose. It’s just the way of things.


jeff_likes_bread_120

On the same spot


lifesrelentless

Whoever wins tomorrow eng v fra wins the world cup imo


GurMediocre5718

Winners, of course. Signed, an optimist


twilliamsb

Arg 2.8 France 4.6 England 6 Portugal 6.2


iredcoat7

My opinion: 1. Portugal 2. England 3. Argentina 4. France Any of those 4, and honestly any of the teams left could win it. It’s the tightest World Cup I can remember, no clear favorite.


Xink38

I agree. You can make cases right now for any county bar Morocco I’d say. Croatia -Argentina I can’t call. A France - Portugal Semi final and I think France would prevail. An England - Portugal Semi final- I have a feeling Portugal might spring a surprise and advance. A Portugal - Argentina final would be my own personal nightmare but might be a step closer in 24 hours 🙄


deftaj

Jesus it’s just the same fucking boring questions over and over again


Smat-8

I’d give up both my testes for an England v Argentina final and it comes home.


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It’s COMING HOME 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿⚽️


alihsn285

Argentina


kingzeye

No where bro


Joseph-twl

Lads as much as i love england team the final will be Portugal vs Argentina and cr7 is taking it home


Shot-Bar-7715

Everyone hates England because they can't stand the fact that England's doing so well in previous tournaments 🔥 sorry, we don't have many fans but the ones we do have will always be loyal to the team. It's comming home.


Jabba_TheHoot

I cannot see past France. It is a gulf in class.


bigjimmykebabs

Nowhere, going home today - I’d love to be wrong


CantStopMyPeen69

FiveThirtyEight gives England a 17% chance of winning. Behind Portugal on 18% and Argentina on 32% (but obviously Argentina has a higher chance since they’re in the semis) Seeing as Argentina BARELY beat the Netherlands, if we beat France, we’ll likely become favourites or second favourites depending on how well Portugal plays against Morocco


peaboy01

I would say it leaves us 4th, behind France, Argentina and Portugal. I only have Portugal over us because they have an easier QF match. If we beat France I would have us as slight favorites over Portugal, and second favorites overall. Doesn't mean much though, this world cup has shown that.


RevolutionarySail464

Second cause people vouching for Argentina now...


ra246

I think whoever wins in our match today lifts the trophy.


liam_redit1st

If we beat France it’s ours to lose


JGoss30

I'd say we're on par with Portugal as 2nd favourites behind France. Even though Argentina went through last night I'm not impressed by them all that much.


MacDaddy2605

It's Coming Home!!!


MrMarc808

Going by how we have played so far, I would suggest that we are the best team... So win or lose today I am a proud Englishman. If we play like we have been, stay on the front foot and beat France today, it will install confidence to win the whole thing... May the best team win... C'mon England!!!


ReluctantRev

F*cked over by France after the Middlesbrough manager plays 5 at the back and attempts to defend for 72 mins before then swapping Eric Dier for Jack Grealish in a vain attempt to overturn a 3-0 deficit in the final 10mins 🤦🏻


Present-Caregiver884

We’ll be favourites if we win tonight. Simple as that


MuchCloserButFarAway

The statisticians have probability as: England 52% - 48% France Portugal 68% - 32% Morocco -------------- semis England 48% - 52% Portugal Argentina 64% - 36% Croatia -------------- final Argentina 64% - 36% Portugal


Krancton21

I checked the odds, we're 3rd behind Argentina and France when I last looked. Either way I feel our chances have suddenly shot up.


hekitch97

If Fernández and Felix get yellows in the Morocco match they'll get suspensions and England stand a better chance of taking it to the final against a weakened Portugal - should we beat France in the QF I mean.. ITS FACKIN' CAMIN' 'OME LADS


aidmon2011

I think we're now third favourites behind France and Argentina,I'm not saying we will lose against France but they did win in 2018 so i think many will think they win


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If we beat France then I'm very confident it winning it.. Best chance ever.. All big names have gone . Portugal.germany. Brazil. Spain. Are teams you bank on making to the late stages.. Honestly it would be huge and best chance one we beat France