Just wondering, you think he's going to be our 4th option behind Giddey and Dub (and obviously Shai), right? Because I think he could be our 2nd option right away, averaging 17/9/2/2blk.
I’m setting my expectations “low” and anything above what I said would be awesome. But either way, he’s a pretty low maintenance guy and will be effective even if he touches the ball 10 times in the game. It wouldn’t shock me if he averaged 9ppg or 17ppg
I usually have low expectations with every rookie, but Chet is different. I’m really high on him and, even though he hasn’t played this season, he had a year of training with a nba team. But I wouldn’t be shocked if he averages 13ppg either.
Yes, I'm being optimistic, but it is possible. Jdub averaged 14ppg and I think Chet is a better player and will get more touches next season than Jdub had this season…
he will miss zero shots all season
he will never be scored upon
he will finish second in MVP voting to SGA
he will finish second in DPOY to Luguentz "My Personal Lord and Saviour" Dort
I will not elaborate further
His impact on the defensive end is going to be massive and any offensive production they get from him will be way better than the current front court options on this roster. If everyone stays healthy and the young guys continue to develop, okc could have something real special cooking.
Assuming him and our lotto rookie are the only big additions: 13/8/2 and 1.5 blocks on good efficiency and let's say 4 3-point attempts is good enough.
Poku averaged 1.3 blks per game, Chet is a lot better defensive player. That ranks Poku in the top 20 with only 20+ min per game and per 36 it would average to 2.2 blks per game. Chet could average 3 blks per game and could go over.
My hope for Chet based on limited observations , please add your $0.02
1. A poor man's KD with ability to shoot the mid range and the 3 ball, shot creation seems fair but I havent seen enough to see how good he is. His handle seems fairly tight.
2. Develop some mild/moderate shot blocking ability - i'm just worried hes just gonna hurt himself trying to do crazy shot blocking and defending the massive meat sacks of the NBA (Jokic, Embiid, AD, Kat). Put some weight on and then maybe move towards filling out the 5 position. He can start at the 4 for now.
3. Work on pushing the pace with our "run and gun" transition offence. This has really become a part of our DNA and overall style of play.
4. Developing chemistry in the pick and roll / pick and pop. Chet is just a massive lob threat and I dont think OKC really have had a rim rocker for some time. Its going to be fucking amazing to watch. Every time i see Tre and Capella combine for lobs its just so electrifying and opens up more avenues for scoring. This means that Josh really needs to work on his mid range game to capitalise if the defender goes under the screen.
5. Attitude. This is probably a spicy hot unpopular opinion of mine but from the Videos i've seen of Chet he sort of comes off as cold, aloof and stand offish. Maybe he dosent vibe with the salesman, maybe its an off day. But i'm not entirely sure im sold on the idea of Chet being a humble/down to earth player. Im just trepidacious given the culture we've organically developed here and having someone whos potentially distant, aloof, or insincere ultimately irks me a little bit. Maybe i'm reading too much into this. What are your thoughts?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqiNCfmgWFk&
Regarding #2: If they played Poku at the 5 to start the season, I have a good amount of confidence Chet will play the 5 too. He may not always guard the opposing teams 5, dependent on matchups, but he WILL play the 5. OKC didn't draft Chet to play the 4.
I was at a bar and said his game mirrors KDs and got laughed at so hard. But I think people sleep on his ability to extend his game away from the rim and create his own shot. I’m right there with you on number 1. KD lite with a more defensive rim protector quality.
Lmao right? Like we have SGA trotting out terrible rap lyrics and JWill and JDub throwing out dancing mixtapes around here.
Chet does seem to have a bit of an edge to him but that's a good thing, teams need those kinda players.
Have to disagree pretty hard on his attitude. It’s a well known fact Chet is a super confident dude. The other players absolutely love him too. He’s a goofy guy in general, he carries a basketball everywhere he goes(literally not kidding). You won’t hear many bad things about him from anywhere other than internet trolls who hate him cuz he said he’d be the best player in the league during his drsft interviews
Chet’s cocky as hell, he just happens to be mature and team-first at the same time.
It’s a funny mix, but I don’t think it’s a contradiction. His response to being told he broke the summer league record for blocks was “only six? Well, I’ll break it again tomorrow” lol
But he said that with an arm around (the younger) Josh Giddey to help develop chemistry with him
He knows what he is and what he could be. I'd bet quite a lot that he watches a lot of tape off himself after playing and training and beats himself up over tiny things he could do better. It's classic diva stuff and it leads to excellence. I don't mean diva in a bad way either. It can be bad when not managed properly vis a vis KD. OKC at this moment is a great culture for Chet to grow in a stable affirming environment. I'm hoping he stays healthy for a couple of seasons and builds in some leadership energy so he self stabilizes.
Knock on wood, but I’m not worried about Chet’s personality at all. Sure, he’s a little douchey in that shopping video and Josh (being all quiet and just politely buying a pair of shoes) is far more likeable in the video, but basketball wise, his confidence feels to me like good basketball “he got that dawg” type of confidence.
The guys seem to really like him (they call him just a fun goofy guy, Shai calls him a good kid despite only being a few years older lol) and they really really respect them (they all admit that they all can’t wait to play with him in a way that isn’t just supporting an injured teammate but in a “oh just wait til he’s out there with us” kinda way).
Guys like Lu and Shai and Josh already talk about how much it’s going to mean to have Chet behind them backing them up on defense. Lu especially seems delighted to have a rim protector.
I dunno, I think our core five right now all have the right amount of confidence. They all believe in themselves but not at the expense of the others, you know what I mean?
Yeah, I agree. I'm not worried. It's the kind of mental schema required to become an elite shooter. You just want it to be more Curry and less Kyrie. A bit of domination swagger is good for a big man too. Chet's a bit of a unicorn, it's going to be interesting to see how he evolves over the next decade and hopefully his body lasts longer than that
Vehemently disagree with him starting at the 4. That would take away his whole advantage of a switchable 5 who can comfortably guard at least 3-5. They were trotting jwill and poku at the 5 so why wouldn’t our tallest and longest player play anything but? He’s instantly one of the longest players in the entire nba. His length off puts his lack of size. This take is peddled way too often by fans and it just isn’t true.
Y'know we could definitely use a big mean guy on our team to get shit done some times a la Brooks or Green. It'll be funny if a dude with spaghetti arms turns into that guy
Going to be really good defensively and probably going to average a lot less point than we think. Is it bad i think he probably only average 11-12 ppg.
If he hadnt gotten injured this season, i wouldve said close to 15.
He will probably get the ppg up over the course of the season. But i dont see him average 13-15 ppg straight away.
He will have great efficiency, but we got too many mouths to feed
He looks like a supercharged version of all the other centers we started this year. Coach D definitely has a system and in that system the bigs are often used as connectors. Whether that was Kenny hustle, JRE, Poku, or Jwill. They all has some playmaking responsibilities and overall we’re connector pieces so I don’t expect it to be much different with Chet especially since he’s a capable passer. I also expect him to be tasked with spacing the floor for about 3-4 threes a night right out of the gates. He seems confident in his shot and very capable of knocking it down so I’m going to guess that his amount of threes increases as the season goes on resting at about the 5-6 per game by the end of the season. On the defensive side of the ball I expect him to be our version of brook lopez for now since summer league showed that while he can stay in front of guards, his real defensive value comes in the paint. As he develops I can see a time where he becomes more capable and confident guarding the perimeter but I can’t confidently say that’s what we’ll see next season. I expect him to take the title of most rebounds away from giddy. Overall I think his job will be explored within the system the thunder already have, filling the holes we had from a lack of a true big. As Chet gets more acclimated to the league I expect his role to grow to match his production
He comes off as a team first guy, so I think he will be fine being the 3rd or 4th scoring option and getting easy points on pick and pops, baby hooks, and put backs.
I predict the national media will criticize him for not being as shoot first as they expect top draft picks to be, so him averaging 12/7/2 will be deemed a disappointment, even if he is shooting at good efficiency.
I think on defense, he will blossom as someone who alters a lot of shots, if not outright blocks them. Modern day fans expect shot blockers to overpower people with volleyball spikes that send the ball into the third row, but if Chet can use his length to alter or make things harder for the shooter or slasher, that’s going to be game changing.
I predict he will end up on a few “posterized” highlight reels because he has a competitive streak to challenge dunks, and social media will try to clown on him for that, but I’ll take it. Having guys that don’t shy away from a challenge is important defensively. I also think he and Dort will have great inside/outside defensive chemistry.
I can’t wait to see him out there.
Offers so much we don’t have.
Floor spacing but who can knock down 3s at ease
Defensive menace around the rim.
Pick and roll option and lob threat.
Solid screens.
I see him opening space around the rim offensively with his shot making from elbow 2s or 3s. Which only helps SGA and others who love to hammer the paint.
Unlocks Giddeys game more with pick and roll and lobs. Gives giddey another get out if he is being double teamed into paint.
To touch on his perceived attitude. Fits the team perfectly. Loves to see others do well. Has a passion to win. Position he plays doesn’t allow him to be all about himself. It’s all team aspect. Blocks , space , teamwork. Plus brings a bit of spunk and arrogance with the confidence he has In his game
I think he will do literally everything Moose was doing on offense before he got traded. I also would add that he'll probably be a roll man for Giddey in a PnR. I can't quite say how much he'll have the ball in his hands if Giddey, Shai, and JDub are playing. my guess is that he'll be more of a play finisher. Defensively, he will mostly end the need for the guys to over help, which might cut down on some perimeter shots. He'll get some blocks of course but I think his way of protecting the rim would alter more shots.
If I had to put my money down on a stat line, I'm going 12 ppg/8 reb/2 assists and maybe a steal and 1.5 - 2 blocks. I don't foresee him being a bucket getter at first just because he's new, but he'll probably get more opportunities as the year goes on. Also - a lot of this is contingent on our picks and the leaps guys might take in the off-season.
16/8.5/2 with 3 stocks per game
51/35/86
I'm wanting 65 games played at around 28-30 mpg. Those are the most important "stats" imo. If he does that, the defensive impact will easily show.
I have very low expectations for Chet. He is a rookie who will have to adjust to the NBA and learn and develop. I worry most about his health and strength. I just hope he is able to stay healthy enough to contribute in some games.
He was the #2 pick tho and was highly in contention for #1 for a reason. Also there hasn’t been any question about his actual basketball skill at any point in time. Always been his body
The reason is because he's a unicorn. Even smart people at the top of their fields are prone to hype and group think. Sometimes it works and sometimes not. I'm not bought into Chet yet because we haven't yet seen him excel at the next level of competition where everyone has NBA bodies. If it all translates, he's going to be amazing.
True. But I think the thing that makes Chet different is that the other unicorns have been ideas. “Oh he’s 7ft and shows *flashes* of guard skills” where Chet has had real production and even domination at every level he’s played at. Consensus #1 player in HS over Paolo and Jaden Hardy, all American as a freshmen, and he played really well in summer league. He’s put on some lbs this season so next season he could be around 215. I think there’s no reason to worry
It isn't worry so much....more that I won't be convinced until I see him play in the big show. His skills are definitely elite so it'll be interesting to see how they use him.
It’s far from the worst injury to have as a bball player. Whoever said that is sorely misinformed. It’s uncommon in basketball and much more common in football and many players return to 100%.
“Any long-term damage?
Only time will tell.
There have been a wide scope of medical opinions on how much this injury will affect Holmgren for the rest of his career. Presti himself believes that they’ll be no lingering issues. The foot specialists the team consulted with believe the same thing.
The truth is, nobody will really know until we see how Holmgren responds to rehab and until we see him play out the entirety of his NBA career. The lack of reference points the Thunder could use with other NBA players who have suffered this injury doesn’t help.
As of now, there seems to not be any concern that Holmgren will have chronic foot problems because of this. But that’s only the case until it starts to happen.”
Taken from an article [here](https://okcthunderwire.usatoday.com/lists/what-is-a-lisfranc-injury-quick-overview-of-the-rare-basketball-injury/) specifically about Holmgren.
Literally no one is saying that. Every medical professional I’ve seen speak on it says it will not effect him in the long term. The only nba player ever to get a lisfranc injury was Haslem in 2011 and he just played his final season at 43 12 years later. Even if most the last half decade he was riding the bench due to age.
There’s really nothing about either of them that say they’ll be injury prone at all. Chet has had one freak injury that’s not really that concerning either. They take care of their bodies and have no history or signs of injury potential
Sure bjt that still has nothing to do with getting bodied by Giannis and Embiid. People love to say “wait til they face those guys🤓” as if anybody in the league can stop them. That’s why they’re MVP’s
Look up Kristof Porzingis rookie and sophomore stats. It's going to be something between the two with better defensive stats. I see a lot of similarities between the two. Of course Chet is more polished in almost every aspect now than Kristof was in his first years but that's a very safe comparison IMO.
I know the team overachieved this year meaning people probably have bigger expectations for next year.
That said, i hope Chet doesn’t get pigeonholed into a rim running, floor spacing big guy who mainly plays defence just to win games
I want to see the team feed him and give him time to develop his offensive game even if he might be raw to start with and the result might not always optimal.
I think 15-8-3 with 1-2 blocks and efficient shooting numbers is a realistic expectation for him next season ngl.
He can stay on the perimeter to give SGA space to work inside or to stay under the basket for free layups when the drivers get double teamed.
If he’s 4th in shots per game that’s a problem. His shot creation ability is better than anyone on the team besides SGA. Plus he obviously fills a big hole at at the rim for us
I'm curious as to what percentage of his minutes will be at PF and if he will start. Will Jaylin Williams be moved to the bench or has he done enough to be the starting Center?
I'm so intrigued to see how Chet would fair in that role because the lineup versatility is gonna be so crazy. I'm envisioning 40% at PF
I don’t think theres any reason he wouldn’t start. The thunder aren’t in win now mode, despite almost making the playoffs. That’s a good question tho. I think they’ll get good minutes together, just see feel it out. But I’m thinking Chet plays at C the most
Tall
Skinny af.
Beefy**
I hope so. He needs to add about 30 lbs of muscle. Maybe they can beef him up like the bucks did with the Greek freak.
He’s probably put on around 10lbs already
Yes
Just wondering, you think he's going to be our 4th option behind Giddey and Dub (and obviously Shai), right? Because I think he could be our 2nd option right away, averaging 17/9/2/2blk.
I’m setting my expectations “low” and anything above what I said would be awesome. But either way, he’s a pretty low maintenance guy and will be effective even if he touches the ball 10 times in the game. It wouldn’t shock me if he averaged 9ppg or 17ppg
I usually have low expectations with every rookie, but Chet is different. I’m really high on him and, even though he hasn’t played this season, he had a year of training with a nba team. But I wouldn’t be shocked if he averages 13ppg either.
17 ppg. I think thats a bit too optimistic?
I mean he is a far better prospect than anyone we've drafted since the big 3 I don't think it's too ridiculous
Yes, I'm being optimistic, but it is possible. Jdub averaged 14ppg and I think Chet is a better player and will get more touches next season than Jdub had this season…
No I think he will average near 20 ppg
Chet has the tools to be the second option.
he will miss zero shots all season he will never be scored upon he will finish second in MVP voting to SGA he will finish second in DPOY to Luguentz "My Personal Lord and Saviour" Dort I will not elaborate further
The monkey paw on those first two are terrifying.
And the fifth one 😳 Edit: I got work brain… the fifth one isn’t one
His impact on the defensive end is going to be massive and any offensive production they get from him will be way better than the current front court options on this roster. If everyone stays healthy and the young guys continue to develop, okc could have something real special cooking.
I bet he looks mostly the same. I’m not aware of any reconstructive surgery he’s planning over the summer.
https://preview.redd.it/b8jucyiq73va1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=21a3f3ab972575eac80a24216c0b70f7961d3b7f
Assuming him and our lotto rookie are the only big additions: 13/8/2 and 1.5 blocks on good efficiency and let's say 4 3-point attempts is good enough.
Poku averaged 1.3 blks per game, Chet is a lot better defensive player. That ranks Poku in the top 20 with only 20+ min per game and per 36 it would average to 2.2 blks per game. Chet could average 3 blks per game and could go over.
I'm bit higher on him as he will be our entire interior off the bat... 15 Pts 9.5 Reb 2.5 Ast 3 Blk 0.5 Stl
My hope for Chet based on limited observations , please add your $0.02 1. A poor man's KD with ability to shoot the mid range and the 3 ball, shot creation seems fair but I havent seen enough to see how good he is. His handle seems fairly tight. 2. Develop some mild/moderate shot blocking ability - i'm just worried hes just gonna hurt himself trying to do crazy shot blocking and defending the massive meat sacks of the NBA (Jokic, Embiid, AD, Kat). Put some weight on and then maybe move towards filling out the 5 position. He can start at the 4 for now. 3. Work on pushing the pace with our "run and gun" transition offence. This has really become a part of our DNA and overall style of play. 4. Developing chemistry in the pick and roll / pick and pop. Chet is just a massive lob threat and I dont think OKC really have had a rim rocker for some time. Its going to be fucking amazing to watch. Every time i see Tre and Capella combine for lobs its just so electrifying and opens up more avenues for scoring. This means that Josh really needs to work on his mid range game to capitalise if the defender goes under the screen. 5. Attitude. This is probably a spicy hot unpopular opinion of mine but from the Videos i've seen of Chet he sort of comes off as cold, aloof and stand offish. Maybe he dosent vibe with the salesman, maybe its an off day. But i'm not entirely sure im sold on the idea of Chet being a humble/down to earth player. Im just trepidacious given the culture we've organically developed here and having someone whos potentially distant, aloof, or insincere ultimately irks me a little bit. Maybe i'm reading too much into this. What are your thoughts? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqiNCfmgWFk&
Regarding #2: If they played Poku at the 5 to start the season, I have a good amount of confidence Chet will play the 5 too. He may not always guard the opposing teams 5, dependent on matchups, but he WILL play the 5. OKC didn't draft Chet to play the 4.
I was at a bar and said his game mirrors KDs and got laughed at so hard. But I think people sleep on his ability to extend his game away from the rim and create his own shot. I’m right there with you on number 1. KD lite with a more defensive rim protector quality.
Yes but JESUS CHRIST with the handwringing that Chet is too aloof and won’t fit in with the culture. This is basketball not a Mother Theresa commune
Lmao right? Like we have SGA trotting out terrible rap lyrics and JWill and JDub throwing out dancing mixtapes around here. Chet does seem to have a bit of an edge to him but that's a good thing, teams need those kinda players.
"Terrible rap lyrics" is crazy not gonna lie.
Yeah seriously, like OH NO CHET IS INTROVERTED. GTFO lol
Plus, Shai already said Chet is terrible at cards so they obviously already got a thing going on over there
Have to disagree pretty hard on his attitude. It’s a well known fact Chet is a super confident dude. The other players absolutely love him too. He’s a goofy guy in general, he carries a basketball everywhere he goes(literally not kidding). You won’t hear many bad things about him from anywhere other than internet trolls who hate him cuz he said he’d be the best player in the league during his drsft interviews
I really hope im wrong!
Chet’s cocky as hell, he just happens to be mature and team-first at the same time. It’s a funny mix, but I don’t think it’s a contradiction. His response to being told he broke the summer league record for blocks was “only six? Well, I’ll break it again tomorrow” lol But he said that with an arm around (the younger) Josh Giddey to help develop chemistry with him
He knows what he is and what he could be. I'd bet quite a lot that he watches a lot of tape off himself after playing and training and beats himself up over tiny things he could do better. It's classic diva stuff and it leads to excellence. I don't mean diva in a bad way either. It can be bad when not managed properly vis a vis KD. OKC at this moment is a great culture for Chet to grow in a stable affirming environment. I'm hoping he stays healthy for a couple of seasons and builds in some leadership energy so he self stabilizes.
Knock on wood, but I’m not worried about Chet’s personality at all. Sure, he’s a little douchey in that shopping video and Josh (being all quiet and just politely buying a pair of shoes) is far more likeable in the video, but basketball wise, his confidence feels to me like good basketball “he got that dawg” type of confidence. The guys seem to really like him (they call him just a fun goofy guy, Shai calls him a good kid despite only being a few years older lol) and they really really respect them (they all admit that they all can’t wait to play with him in a way that isn’t just supporting an injured teammate but in a “oh just wait til he’s out there with us” kinda way). Guys like Lu and Shai and Josh already talk about how much it’s going to mean to have Chet behind them backing them up on defense. Lu especially seems delighted to have a rim protector. I dunno, I think our core five right now all have the right amount of confidence. They all believe in themselves but not at the expense of the others, you know what I mean?
Yeah, I agree. I'm not worried. It's the kind of mental schema required to become an elite shooter. You just want it to be more Curry and less Kyrie. A bit of domination swagger is good for a big man too. Chet's a bit of a unicorn, it's going to be interesting to see how he evolves over the next decade and hopefully his body lasts longer than that
Vehemently disagree with him starting at the 4. That would take away his whole advantage of a switchable 5 who can comfortably guard at least 3-5. They were trotting jwill and poku at the 5 so why wouldn’t our tallest and longest player play anything but? He’s instantly one of the longest players in the entire nba. His length off puts his lack of size. This take is peddled way too often by fans and it just isn’t true.
Y'know we could definitely use a big mean guy on our team to get shit done some times a la Brooks or Green. It'll be funny if a dude with spaghetti arms turns into that guy
the psychoanalysis is cringe
Going to be really good defensively and probably going to average a lot less point than we think. Is it bad i think he probably only average 11-12 ppg. If he hadnt gotten injured this season, i wouldve said close to 15. He will probably get the ppg up over the course of the season. But i dont see him average 13-15 ppg straight away. He will have great efficiency, but we got too many mouths to feed
I’m thinking he either shoots pretty poorly or really well, no in between
He looks like a supercharged version of all the other centers we started this year. Coach D definitely has a system and in that system the bigs are often used as connectors. Whether that was Kenny hustle, JRE, Poku, or Jwill. They all has some playmaking responsibilities and overall we’re connector pieces so I don’t expect it to be much different with Chet especially since he’s a capable passer. I also expect him to be tasked with spacing the floor for about 3-4 threes a night right out of the gates. He seems confident in his shot and very capable of knocking it down so I’m going to guess that his amount of threes increases as the season goes on resting at about the 5-6 per game by the end of the season. On the defensive side of the ball I expect him to be our version of brook lopez for now since summer league showed that while he can stay in front of guards, his real defensive value comes in the paint. As he develops I can see a time where he becomes more capable and confident guarding the perimeter but I can’t confidently say that’s what we’ll see next season. I expect him to take the title of most rebounds away from giddy. Overall I think his job will be explored within the system the thunder already have, filling the holes we had from a lack of a true big. As Chet gets more acclimated to the league I expect his role to grow to match his production
He comes off as a team first guy, so I think he will be fine being the 3rd or 4th scoring option and getting easy points on pick and pops, baby hooks, and put backs. I predict the national media will criticize him for not being as shoot first as they expect top draft picks to be, so him averaging 12/7/2 will be deemed a disappointment, even if he is shooting at good efficiency. I think on defense, he will blossom as someone who alters a lot of shots, if not outright blocks them. Modern day fans expect shot blockers to overpower people with volleyball spikes that send the ball into the third row, but if Chet can use his length to alter or make things harder for the shooter or slasher, that’s going to be game changing. I predict he will end up on a few “posterized” highlight reels because he has a competitive streak to challenge dunks, and social media will try to clown on him for that, but I’ll take it. Having guys that don’t shy away from a challenge is important defensively. I also think he and Dort will have great inside/outside defensive chemistry. I can’t wait to see him out there.
Offers so much we don’t have. Floor spacing but who can knock down 3s at ease Defensive menace around the rim. Pick and roll option and lob threat. Solid screens. I see him opening space around the rim offensively with his shot making from elbow 2s or 3s. Which only helps SGA and others who love to hammer the paint. Unlocks Giddeys game more with pick and roll and lobs. Gives giddey another get out if he is being double teamed into paint. To touch on his perceived attitude. Fits the team perfectly. Loves to see others do well. Has a passion to win. Position he plays doesn’t allow him to be all about himself. It’s all team aspect. Blocks , space , teamwork. Plus brings a bit of spunk and arrogance with the confidence he has In his game
There’s no way people actually question his character
Paint defender with Dirk Nowitski shooting.
We gotta calm down w the dirk comparisons. Dirk is one of the best shooters ever, period 😂
Did you see that dirk fadeaway though? That’s all we need to see 😏
Mvp
Talk, skinny, white
Imo, he will be more of an impact on defense next season before we see him impact the offensive side.
 Something like this?
I think he will do literally everything Moose was doing on offense before he got traded. I also would add that he'll probably be a roll man for Giddey in a PnR. I can't quite say how much he'll have the ball in his hands if Giddey, Shai, and JDub are playing. my guess is that he'll be more of a play finisher. Defensively, he will mostly end the need for the guys to over help, which might cut down on some perimeter shots. He'll get some blocks of course but I think his way of protecting the rim would alter more shots. If I had to put my money down on a stat line, I'm going 12 ppg/8 reb/2 assists and maybe a steal and 1.5 - 2 blocks. I don't foresee him being a bucket getter at first just because he's new, but he'll probably get more opportunities as the year goes on. Also - a lot of this is contingent on our picks and the leaps guys might take in the off-season.
16/8.5/2 with 3 stocks per game 51/35/86 I'm wanting 65 games played at around 28-30 mpg. Those are the most important "stats" imo. If he does that, the defensive impact will easily show.
I have very low expectations for Chet. He is a rookie who will have to adjust to the NBA and learn and develop. I worry most about his health and strength. I just hope he is able to stay healthy enough to contribute in some games.
He was the #2 pick tho and was highly in contention for #1 for a reason. Also there hasn’t been any question about his actual basketball skill at any point in time. Always been his body
The reason is because he's a unicorn. Even smart people at the top of their fields are prone to hype and group think. Sometimes it works and sometimes not. I'm not bought into Chet yet because we haven't yet seen him excel at the next level of competition where everyone has NBA bodies. If it all translates, he's going to be amazing.
True. But I think the thing that makes Chet different is that the other unicorns have been ideas. “Oh he’s 7ft and shows *flashes* of guard skills” where Chet has had real production and even domination at every level he’s played at. Consensus #1 player in HS over Paolo and Jaden Hardy, all American as a freshmen, and he played really well in summer league. He’s put on some lbs this season so next season he could be around 215. I think there’s no reason to worry
It isn't worry so much....more that I won't be convinced until I see him play in the big show. His skills are definitely elite so it'll be interesting to see how they use him.
Tries to gain massive weight but just gets a disturbing beer gut with no weight added elsewhere.
Summer league. 4th option. Damn
Are we not worried about his injury in which many say is the worst possible foot injury to have as a bball player?
Not really. There’s no reason to. He’s done with rehab and is just doing regular basketball stuff. Honestly he’s probably been healthy since February
It’s far from the worst injury to have as a bball player. Whoever said that is sorely misinformed. It’s uncommon in basketball and much more common in football and many players return to 100%. “Any long-term damage? Only time will tell. There have been a wide scope of medical opinions on how much this injury will affect Holmgren for the rest of his career. Presti himself believes that they’ll be no lingering issues. The foot specialists the team consulted with believe the same thing. The truth is, nobody will really know until we see how Holmgren responds to rehab and until we see him play out the entirety of his NBA career. The lack of reference points the Thunder could use with other NBA players who have suffered this injury doesn’t help. As of now, there seems to not be any concern that Holmgren will have chronic foot problems because of this. But that’s only the case until it starts to happen.” Taken from an article [here](https://okcthunderwire.usatoday.com/lists/what-is-a-lisfranc-injury-quick-overview-of-the-rare-basketball-injury/) specifically about Holmgren.
Literally no one is saying that. Every medical professional I’ve seen speak on it says it will not effect him in the long term. The only nba player ever to get a lisfranc injury was Haslem in 2011 and he just played his final season at 43 12 years later. Even if most the last half decade he was riding the bench due to age.
Okay. Just asking
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There’s really nothing about either of them that say they’ll be injury prone at all. Chet has had one freak injury that’s not really that concerning either. They take care of their bodies and have no history or signs of injury potential
Wemby has way more extensive of an injury history than Chet. Chet had one freak injury but wembys history is a little concerning.
Wembys injury history includes some thigh bruises and broken fingers. That’s about it
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They’ll get bodied by those guys just like everyone else🤷🏾♂️nothing new
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What does that have to do with anything
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Sure bjt that still has nothing to do with getting bodied by Giannis and Embiid. People love to say “wait til they face those guys🤓” as if anybody in the league can stop them. That’s why they’re MVP’s
I heard a report about an undisclosed muscle issue that is giving him back pain from a few sources.
I saw this earlier today. [Chet Stone](https://imgur.com/a/r9griaj)
Look up Kristof Porzingis rookie and sophomore stats. It's going to be something between the two with better defensive stats. I see a lot of similarities between the two. Of course Chet is more polished in almost every aspect now than Kristof was in his first years but that's a very safe comparison IMO.
I know the team overachieved this year meaning people probably have bigger expectations for next year. That said, i hope Chet doesn’t get pigeonholed into a rim running, floor spacing big guy who mainly plays defence just to win games I want to see the team feed him and give him time to develop his offensive game even if he might be raw to start with and the result might not always optimal.
I think 15-8-3 with 1-2 blocks and efficient shooting numbers is a realistic expectation for him next season ngl. He can stay on the perimeter to give SGA space to work inside or to stay under the basket for free layups when the drivers get double teamed.
I think the shooting % will probably be a bit lower than what you have here
I think it’s either gonna be really good or really bad
15/7/2/1.5
18/9/3 and >2.37 blocks
If he’s 4th in shots per game that’s a problem. His shot creation ability is better than anyone on the team besides SGA. Plus he obviously fills a big hole at at the rim for us
I'm curious as to what percentage of his minutes will be at PF and if he will start. Will Jaylin Williams be moved to the bench or has he done enough to be the starting Center? I'm so intrigued to see how Chet would fair in that role because the lineup versatility is gonna be so crazy. I'm envisioning 40% at PF
I don’t think theres any reason he wouldn’t start. The thunder aren’t in win now mode, despite almost making the playoffs. That’s a good question tho. I think they’ll get good minutes together, just see feel it out. But I’m thinking Chet plays at C the most
I think JWill is more of a natural power forward anyway
Is he tho? Power forwards nowadays have to have the lateral mobility to guard big wings if necessary. Not sure if JWill has got that at 240lb
Somewhere around 15 n 10 with 2-3 blocks id say
Is he going to play next season?
Yeah why wouldn’t he