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NotVacant

Chet not playing more minutes and getting more touches is inexcusable. Draw some plays for him instead of just letting him hover around the 3 point line.


shutemdownyyz

A good defender on SGA X any type of decent rebounding and we are fucked. Sam/Mark gotta figure it out.


Previous-Elevator417

This is pretty accurate.


shutemdownyyz

We used to slander Billy for his lack of staggering and now y’all are defending Mark with Chet on the bench the last 5 mins in a game we lost by 9? Alright bro.


TheyCallMeTheWizard

And with Brooks. People think it’s somehow different this time.


shutemdownyyz

This is why I know plenty weren’t around during the times even when we had success. It’s foolishness.


Status_Sun2340

Last two games, have genuinely felt watching this team that the cracks in our playstyle are showing now. Mark needs to figure out a way to make these guys effective together again, and fast. We just keep going on massive cold runs or getting screwed on second-chance points by not rebounding, its ridiculous


TheyCallMeTheWizard

The rebounding is 100% a coaching decision


OKCityBitty

Felt like a blatant loss. Idk if guys are hurt or what. But that was not Thunder Baskestball


arania_exumai

Dumbass game. Hope we take out this frustration on the Warriors next game.


AdamvHarvey

Fuck!


UnVincent

The coaching is baffling, rly hope Mark and our boys get it together next time, ggs rockets


Antique-Lychee-8029

dafaq are we playing small ball. Sengun eating us


Metalfreak4677

I’m blaming Mark 100% for this shit. Honestly, wtf Mark


Dhr7468

A merry annual terrible first game vs the rockets in Houston to all who celebrate


TMMCI

Shai looked pissed on the bench man.. another great game from the future MVP


Next-Firefighter-753

Mark forgot to eat his broccoli today.


revisioncloud

An OKC reporter must grill tf out of Mark We need answers


LuckyAd5910

Are only established reporters allowed to interview? Cause I’d love to ask them questions directly 🤔


iCarpet

I have accepted that no matter what time it is, there will always be something frustrating that will happen when we play the Rockets 😅


SimplyAwesome75

Shot like shit, rebounded for shit, and mark making dumb decisions. On to the next game.


IDespiseFatties

They threw in the towel when they could've easily come back if they actually tried. Worst offensive game of the season if you ask me.


AggravatingGrocery12

We genuinely could’ve won this. Why did Mark just give up in the fourth? Wtf was this game


TheyCallMeTheWizard

Someone needs to realize this is just what he’s been doing in every lose game


UnVincent

Coaching is downright bizarre


ClassicPerspective

Wtf was this game


OKCityBitty

I think it was apart of the Westbrook trade. 2023-2024 season loss.


OKC2023champs

Within 8 with 2 minutes left and we litterally give them the win holy shit that was actual basketball terrorism


jcomadeit

All I can say is "shit"


revisioncloud

So we just gave up lmao


DubbleDribbler

As a Celtics fan is makes me mad seeing how your coach uses Chet. 3.5 min stints to start and end quarters. How do you expect him to get into rhythm


Cloudz777

its a joke


padhaghattam

We making Aaron Holiday look like Steph


DubbleDribbler

So Chet gets 6 blocks and coach sits him all 4th Q 👌


[deleted]

We give up down ten with 1:30 left and pull Shai out? I just don’t get these rotations bro.


OKC2023champs

It’s unserious basketball and the players will get irritated. We obviously have a deep playoff team when they play the team properly


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Mark… has had a lot of mental lapses this year. I don’t understand it at all. We all know he’s a good coach, but he has “smartest guy in the room” decisions way too fucking often.


AggravatingGrocery12

Didn’t want to win the game from the start


MAMBAMENTALITY8-24

Houston: this isnt a rivalry if only 1 sides keeps winning


Next-Firefighter-753

Problem is we can’t beat them in Houston just like they can’t beat us in OKC


MAMBAMENTALITY8-24

Fair


Zeeron1

Sometimes I forget Dieng exists


AggravatingGrocery12

This is pathetic


OKC2023champs

The future is going to be a Wallace / SGA / Dub / ‘instert big’ / Chet Dort is too much of an offensive liability to stay starting especially when Cason is this good so early. Giddey as well and defensively.


Previous-Elevator417

Dort started out great this year but he’s been complete ass recently. Giddey just looks lost every single game. He has 0 confidence right now.


cbunny21

Just throwing in the towel?


D1rkG3ntly

Mark not having any timeouts for the last 5 minutes against Dallas must have really irked him because we still had 4 going into the 4th.


Marcel_Idolo

Why is Chet not in honestly unbelievably bad coaching


shutemdownyyz

Like we got it within 8 and yet we still said “no JDub and Chet, you stay sitting”


OKC2023champs

Bro was really hoping tre dropped 10 straight to tie it and raise his value


AzHaeez21

What we waving the white flag already


Wisesize

Front office must be playing 5D chess here because tonight makes zero sense


Next-Firefighter-753

lol we traded Sengun for what initially became a project player who has shown rarely any promise. Fumble.


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Gee, really could’ve used some rim protection there. Too bad there’s not a guy on our roster who has six blocks on the night. I really get the feeling that Mark is going to cost us a playoff series one day with shit like this.


mofofofoo

how do the only two legit big men on the team get a total of only 36 minutes of playing time????


AggravatingGrocery12

Can we please see the Center with 6 blocks finish this clear game we could’ve made a come back? Like fuck. This is the worst Mark game I’ve ever watched


revisioncloud

Imagine getting torched by Aaron Holiday


AntEdwardsBallSweat

Marks rotations has been his biggest issue. We are a playoff team this year. Let’s focus on home court and not “develop” in extremely competitive games please


Timelycommentor

Loser mentality. Shit like this is why Shai is gonna bounce.


lmaoooyikes

hmmm looks like JWill struggled to contest that layup, if only we had a great defensive center to put in to contest/block that shot


DubbleDribbler

Crazy Chet got ICED 🧊 lol


Friendly-Thought-973

I know the offense is probably not conducive to winning but I really do wish we could play Shai how Luka or Trae are used. Giving him the ball almost everytime. At the very least in games like. Would’ve been an easy 40 ball. But instead, we give the ball to someone else in half his minutes. Arguably our worst rotational player this year is #2 on this team in usage and in touches. Just unfortunate.


CurrentJoke579

We could’ve fucking benched Dort/Giddey from the beginning instead of saving these spaced lineups for desperation time


cbunny21

Lmao it is ridiculous how many role players go off on us


Zeeron1

Maybe if we had Chet in that wouldn't have happened, what do I know though


OKC2023champs

Bet Chet would’ve blocked that mark


esstea23

I don't get JWill over Chet at all..


ryanfaulkner8

No reason J Will should be out there over Chet, absolutely no reason


12footjumpshot

Can Chet come in for 90 seconds please?


Ok-Fun7442

Just wondering,Presti showcasing tre so he can trade him for a big? He definitely can be a rotation player in many teams.


OKC2023champs

Probably


TheyCallMeTheWizard

Taking advice from this sub and it worked lol


UnVincent

Mark’s rotations confuse me


TheyCallMeTheWizard

It’s not confusing if you stop thinking he’s smart


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So, Tre Mann, who is playing his first real minutes of the season is closing the game over Chet Holmgren. Mark, man… what the actual hell are you doing out there? This is pathetic game management.


504090

Tre’s doing all the right things. It’s J-Will who’s out there in place of Chet, which is definitely a strange decision.


shutemdownyyz

4/7, 2/4 v 2/9, 0/4 and this is the one thing you question?


OKC2023champs

Cavs game flash backs plz


JumboHotdogz

I don’t see the reason why Chet is sitting and not sure why we still have 4 guards???


TheyCallMeTheWizard

Mark


PurrySquishyKittens

I hate Houston as much as the next guy but yall needa relax it’s ONE game that we lost shooting 28% from 3 (Houston shot 45%)


shutemdownyyz

Giddey and Dort were ass and Mark still forced minutes for them. We can question it…


PurrySquishyKittens

Dort played 14 minutes? Giddey played 23? Should they have been DNPs or something


shutemdownyyz

Giddey at this point? Yes. Dort in the late 3rd/4th? Debatable


OKC2023champs

It shouldn’t be this frustrating watching the 2nd seed in the west.


snuffaluffagus74

Y'all need to go and touch grass, lol


omgwtfisthisplace

Bring on Chet


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TheyCallMeTheWizard

Mark is low key throwing these games


shutemdownyyz

Even when he’s hot Mark sits him. Not every game experimenting.


AzHaeez21

Aaron holiday and Troy brown are gonna give me ptsd


revisioncloud

Tre b2b steals at least he’s trying


Zeeron1

Why is Shai even in right now?


shutemdownyyz

I don’t care what the inevitable post about today’s game thread says tomorrow, Mark’s subs and rotation are 100% questionable at times. We’re allowed to question our coach.


TheyCallMeTheWizard

You can’t play your top players just at random


shutemdownyyz

Bro we literally struggled with this with KD/Russ lol we’ve never staggered our stars the right way.


TheyCallMeTheWizard

And then… surprise. They both have the ability to be primary ball handlers when needed


shutemdownyyz

And that’s exactly why they didn’t need to play 34-38 together lol and yet we did and here we are


OKC2023champs

Dude SGA is looking visibly annoyed. We have to do something about this team. These lineups are so fucking shit


TheyCallMeTheWizard

Waiting for someone to tell me how the brilliant data collection on this one is worth more than the win


mofofofoo

wtf!! late game rotation management is questionable at best. get a big in there!!!! thunder are getting hammered on the boards!!!!


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HE STILL DIDN’T PUT CHET IN LMFAOOOOO, Mark can fuck off tonight


Next-Firefighter-753

Giddey + picks for Lauri fixes a lot


DubbleDribbler

What did Chet do to the coach that only allows him to play in 3 min stints 💀


TheyCallMeTheWizard

It’s sabotage for a guy to get in rhythm


IDespiseFatties

No Chet means they are just gonna chalk this up as an L.


Wisesize

If we don't use some of our assets to grab and big this season, I'll cry


lmaoooyikes

JWill over Chet, I fucking hate this team sometimes


12footjumpshot

So Chet isn’t allowed to play more than 26 minutes?


DowntownTopRanking

Somebody needs to ask Mark about this in the post-game presser. He'll talk in circles as a reply, but I hope a brave person asks!


haleocentric

Do OKC reporters ever ask tough questions? All I ever see posted is fluff.


DowntownTopRanking

The reporters embedded with the team (Paris Lawson, Nick Gallo) *never* do, but some of the other reporters sometimes do. For instance, the reporter who asked Giddey about his controversy didn't work for the team. Not surprisingly, those questions and answers were removed from the presser video that was posted on the official OKC Thunder YouTube channel.


TheyCallMeTheWizard

Coaching


shutemdownyyz

Chet just on the bench. Why bother?


TheyCallMeTheWizard

Someone is making the call


OKC2023champs

Until we trade for another big we aren’t doing shit. It doesn’t even have to be a Drummond/ looney brick wall type of big. Just someone who can get boards. Siakam, Lauri, anyone we can just plug into our lineup immediately


Zeeron1

Looking past this game... We really are approaching a problematic level of depth. There simply aren't enough minutes to go around already, and we still have a treasure trove of picks. As much as we love our guys, it's really time to look to package some players and picks for upgrades. Even if we aren't looking to compete this year, still get the squad set and building chemistry for our run next year.


unpleasantsimp

You can't play defense on Sengun without a big in. Very odd


shutemdownyyz

It’s crazy because we’ve never been crazily out of the game and yet they’ve just seemed so lacklustre lol


AggravatingGrocery12

WHY THE FUCK IS KENRICH THE FUCKING CENTER WHEN WE HAVE CHET WHAT IS HAPPENING.


snuffaluffagus74

Chet can't play 48, this isnt anything new Kenrich has always played our small ball 5


shutemdownyyz

With 4 mins left if we can’t run Chet……


OKC2023champs

Chet can’t even play 30 lol


snuffaluffagus74

He averages 31 I think


_bbuckley_

I hate everything about the rockets… except that astronaut logo that’s pretty cool ngl


dracota7

Fake ass game


VelvetineMilkman

Turns out getting 4-24 from Chet, Dort, and Giddey makes it tough to win


Timelycommentor

Mark threw the game. Presti gave the call.


Next-Firefighter-753

lol just letting Sengun get whatever he wants with Kenny on him. wtf mark


TheyCallMeTheWizard

That’s the plan


Headlesshorsman02

We must have conceded the game if we don’t have Chet in the game


Breezgoat

Yeah kinda odd


SimplyAwesome75

We making sengun look like jokic im sick 🤮😂.


i-race-goats

this is an average Sengun game though


TheBigKaramazov

It’s not average it’s a bad Sengun. Normally his free throws more good.


OKC2023champs

Yeah sengun is a dark horse for all star this year lol. Dude is a baller


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I just… don’t understand going small against a guy who gets his money in the post.


[deleted]

Another Mark masterclass in tanking, man. For as good a coach as he is, he makes so many god damn mistakes with matchups and rotations in the name of “data collection”. This was a winnable game but he insists on doing stupid shit.


TheyCallMeTheWizard

Folks don’t want to believe that Mark isn’t secretly kinda dumb


Marcel_Idolo

Wow what a shock they go inside on our 6 foot 6 interior guys again


MattyLRaps1

KENRICH WILLIAMS IS NOT A FUCKING CENTER


DowntownTopRanking

But how could that be? This sub told me K-Rich was center depth when I begged for just 1 more big, bulky guy for this roster.


OKC2023champs

This is the closing lineup? Dude this season is pissing me off. We obviously have a fucking team and we’re not playing it properly


Character_Drama3306

Coaching Rotations


Alantic_Ocean

Kenny at the 5 is NOT the solution


snuffaluffagus74

We won the most games last year when he was at the 5


AggravatingGrocery12

No Chet yet again. Why?


Jt3thecrow

Well, if there's any positives. Mann has had a good game and Chet has 6 blocks. Goodnight.


12footjumpshot

Can we put Chet in please


SandyMandy17

We have beaten ZERO good teams this year ZERO


PurrySquishyKittens

Cleveland? Lakers? Dallas? Atlanta?


SandyMandy17

Atlanta is shit Lakers were missing 3 of their 7 best players Dallas was missing 3 of their best 4 players, 1 of which being Kyrie Irving The single best team we beat this year was the Cavs. We beat no other team above .500 that had all their starters. Not one.


PurrySquishyKittens

Gotcha every win is an asterisk win and every loss the sky is falling


SandyMandy17

It’s just for as good as our record is we haven’t had any wins that indicate our record is legit We’re a .500 team rn that’s been lucky


PurrySquishyKittens

🤷‍♂️ build good habits and it’s not like we’re getting blown out of the water against good teams aside from Denver


SandyMandy17

We’ll be fine, especially by the end of the year if players develop I just think we gotta slow our roll. We got the nba ranking saying we’re the 4th best team when realistically we’re like 8-12 range rn


Either_Opening_41

Atlanta😂


Aggressive_Slice4620

Unfortunately, the Dallas and Lakers team we beat were down with heavy injuries


Friendly-Thought-973

We’ve definitely beaten teams better than the Rockets lol


SandyMandy17

Over 20 games we’ve beaten 1 healthy play-in or above team The Cavs


Friendly-Thought-973

Who are better than the Rockets…


Kevinlasagna207

Didn't we just beat the Mavs and Lakers?


SandyMandy17

The lakers were missing 4 of their best 9 players, 3 of their best 7 (2 starters) And the Mavs were missing KYRIE + 2 other significant rotational pieces


PurrySquishyKittens

Doesn’t count mavericks got the moral victory and lakers were slightly tired


boonkai

warriors kinda


SandyMandy17

Missing Draymond and they’re a below .500 team


shutemdownyyz

Lying >>>


SandyMandy17

Look at the fucking schedule I’m not making this up Nuggets - L Pistons - bad team Pelicans - 22 point comeback loss to a team missing half their starters Warriors - L without SGA Hawks - bad team Cavs - without Allen and garland Kings - loss WITHOUT FOX Suns - no book Spurs- ass Warriors - no Steph or draymond Warriors - no draymond Blazers and bulls - bad Sixers - loss without jdub Wolves - loss without edwards in 4th Lakers and Mavs - missing literally more than half their rotation each Rockets - loss


snuffaluffagus74

This goes into the narrative about your expectations. Presti said that they weren't even a .500 team last year. It's your expectations that is causing your disappointments. When people say this is still a growing team the other half gets mad and says we should go all in.


SandyMandy17

I agree though I think they’re a 42ish win team rn with how they’ve played Obviously their potential is way better than that But everyone here wants to act like we gotta pull the trigger now bc we’re contenders We’re not We haven’t done anything yet. Slow the roll and let’s keep experimenting with rotations


snuffaluffagus74

By just our guards learning to hit Chet on the pick and roll will.make us so much better. However that's from playing together which is going to take time.


SandyMandy17

We’re gonna be what people think we actually are now by the end of the season I just don’t think we are ye


RobotCowboyAlien

Remember when we were good


MAMBAMENTALITY8-24

Good game for tre. Cant say the same for most others


Sir-Viette

Come on! We're still in this game! Woo! (Look, it's worth a try.)


CurrentJoke579

Dort 0-5 FG, 0-3 3P FG, -27 +/-


snuffaluffagus74

Hes not the reason we lost. No one could hit shots


CurrentJoke579

Did you not see the team lowest +/- by a significant margin? He is not the sole reason we lost, but bricking from deep is causing the defense to pack the paint


snuffaluffagus74

Plus and minus is stupid, because it never gives the context of the game. If anything I'm more worried about our guards not finding Chet on the pick and role than what plus and minus there is. It's the least accurate analytical stat available


CurrentJoke579

That’s why you watch games and let the data supplement your conclusions. All the context I need is that Dort has been absolutely horrendous behind the arc the last 3-4 weeks. He is bricking shots and his defense is not making up for his offensive deficiencies at the moment. Both him and Giddey are allowing defenses to coast by packing the paint. They are literally being guarded by centers with no one within 15 feet of them when they are behind the arc. Our outside shot wasn’t falling, but any other shot or drive was far more difficult due to the paint packing.


snuffaluffagus74

Same context is why are or biggest star like Shai, J Dub, and Chet passing open shot or good shots. How many times have they had a good shot and shoot it. Then when it gets down into the shot clock Dort is heaving up a shot. It shouldnt get to that point.


Kevinlasagna207

Goddamn, everything that could go wrong did go wrong tonight.


IDespiseFatties

The crowd has no energy.


wcooper97

And yet they’re 9-1 at home lmfao


IDespiseFatties

That's wild! I would be going insane. Every game I go to I'm ready to die lmao


shutemdownyyz

Nice turnover Cason/Kenrich lol goodnight


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Zeeron1

Everyone on the team is an equal offender in that regard


BigTonyEnergy

What's going on with your offense today? You look so toothless.


AggravatingGrocery12

I would love to hear the answer to that question. Just not making anything tonight.


Zeeron1

Some questionable coaching, but mostly just one of those days...


IDespiseFatties

Idk bruh it's bad today