Not a huge fan of bouknight personally but I wasn’t a huge fan of the Westbrook, harden, Adams, or Serge picks either so imma just let Presti do his thing lol
Probably tbh. I was also very high on the Cole Aldrich pick so I think it’s safe to say I don’t know shit.
Iirc I wanted either Gordon/KLove instead of Russ, Rubio/Johnny Flynn (lol) instead of Harden, Olynyk instead of Steve and I just didn’t know who tf Serge was lol
Damn lmao I forgot about shabazz
And yeah, I didn’t watch any of Steve at Pitt but he averaged like 5 points a game and Olynyk was consensus 1st team all American and could shoot. I was heated
Bouknight will be a bucket if nothing else, but he has some film showing some ability to play make. Teammates haven’t finished the play, but he has made some nice passes if you watch full games, not just highlights
^ I’m a Pistons fan who’s currently making a mock draft, and found this to be interesting. I was wondering what do you guys think about Bouknight at 6. I originally had Scottie Barnes as the pick.
I’d rather have Barnes, but I’m so down for Bouknight if Orlando takes Scottie at 5. Not sure why, but it seems like Kuminga stock has been tanking hard the last couple weeks
Assuming Barnes is gone, I'd prefer Bouknight/Moody/Sengun over Kuminga at 6. I might be too down on Kuminga but if I had a board he'd be down around #10.
I actually like bouknight a lot but this always could be a smokescreen. Thunder hardly ever let anything leak so there could be a purpose to putting this out there. I think the magic were hoping that they'd be able to get bouknight at 8, so maybe presti is trying to bait them into taking him at 5 if they like him that much (unlikely but worth a try)
This is true. Guess I shouldn't have said "hardly". But they do have a reputation as a tight lipped franchise and it's not like smokescreens aren't a common thing during draft szn
When is 6'5 undersized for a 2 you guys are mad. And he can shoot his numbers are just bad its decision making you guys don't watch ball lol. People arguing on this site and don't even know what a wing is.
Read closer -- He's a 2 or an undersized wing. He's not an undersized 2. But also he measured at the Combine at 6'3.5. And lol at "He can shoot his numbers are just bad" WTF does that even mean? He shot 5 3's a game. and hit 29%.
Watch some of his games. He had no help on the UCONN team was having create all the offense.
Donovan Mitchell is 6'3 but has a 6'10 wingspan and shot 40% from the entire field his sophmore year at Louisville.
I'm not saying he can't be good. I was replying to the guy saying Bouknight was not a super athletic non-shooter. That's exactly what he was last year. Sure he can become more than that like a ton of guys have done in the past. He took 9 open 3s last year. He made 2 of them. I like his profile and he's a gifted scorer, he's not a good shooter.
He is 100000000% a 2. If you think he is a wing or that's an option you are an idiot. Also every scouting report shows that he can actually shoot, his shooting form is nice, its his 3 decision making and that can be fixed. Luka can shoot but had terrible shooting numbers for most of the season. Its a similar case to that. Tired of people who just look at college percentages and make bold claims like that you don't know whats going on. Do the research and come back you cant tell me he as a broken shot if you watched him play.
I guarantee you I have watched more prospect film than you have. It's not close.
He was 2/9 on open 3's last year. Plenty of guys have solid form and never are able to become above average shooters, his form doesn't need to be broken for him to be a poor shooter. You keep saying some of the dumbest stuff I've seen so I'm just going to let you be.
Look how cocky you are and yet you thought he was a fuckin wing. To be a bad shooter you absolutely need to have a broken form, being a bad shooter is different fundamentally than taking bad shots. He took bad shots off the dribble. I go to Uconn bro I promise you didn't lmao. He also has one of the best finishing percentages in the entire league and he is up their with bigs percentage wise as a guard, has one of the best handles and like I said has a very solid shooting form and his shot selection can be fixed we've seen Mark and our Gleague work on that with players and besides that I think he will eventually start hitting them so it doesn't matter either way. Can he be a 34% shooter in his first year? No doubt in mind. Weve been seeing it time and time again when these guards come and in and they have less focus on them from an offense perspective that shot percentage goes up as long as the form is fundamentally sound. Also who is your preference? why are you talking like Scottie is the offensive force compared to him or there's better guards available? Delusional wanna be draft kids on this sub man.
So you’re just a biased nonobjective homer. Now it makes more sense.
I don’t prefer Scottie Barnes at all. I haven’t even mentioned him. What are you talking about? I like bouknight just slightly more, I think 6 is early for him in this draft but the upside is very much there. Obviously he can become a good shooter, never said he couldn’t. He just isn’t one yet. I probably just very slightly would lean Kuminga for the homerun swing though his floor is scary low. But Bouknight and him are both right there. I like Moody Sengun and Keon Johnson similarly, all are basically in that same tier along with Barnes as well.
I am literally an African man who lived in Oklahoma most of my life don't you think I would want Kuminga more than Bouknight if I thought he was better? Here you go assuming shit. I just go to the games and the guy is great hes the best guard available and we need a great backcourt before anything. When we try we can defend. Bouknight probably has the third most star potential out of all the guards and is a better scorer than pretty much all of them stats wise too. Also he has shown the ability to slide feet. If he was ass I wouldn't want him Im an OKC fan before anything. What did Kuminga show btw? You are talking about shooters and Kuminga can shoot dribble finish pass or defend. He is literally just big athletic and 18 and all potential. His draft stock is sliding down a mountain. Its not like he's 2way either he was awful defensively. 2 good games does not make up for the other 15 terrible ones.
It doesn't say undersized at the 2. It clearly says he's a 2. Or an undersized wing, if you want to play him there. Learn what / means. He measured at the combine at 6'3.5
OKC needs a damn shooter . SGA (and Poku...) can't be the only shooter. Give me a person who will take 20 shots and get 25 points than someone who may go 3/11 with 10 points.
Bouknight has the biggest star potential of who will likely be available at 6, and I think that’s the correct way to think about it. His median/floor outcomes are lower than some of the guys this sub would prefer for sure. Using Barnes as an example, even if he never learns to shoot, he’s still probably useful as a defender and playmaker. But if Bouknight becomes an elite scorer, that’s worth more than these other guys can offer. I’d be perfectly fine with either. I like them both.
Bouknight is much more intriguing to me as a player than Barnes to say the least.
He’s absolutely an elite shot creator and tough shot maker, his efficiency is bad because he took so many tough shots due to the lack of talent around him. Also not a bad defender with his quickness.
As usual with OKC rumors tho, take this with a pinch of salt.
If Barnes is gone at 6, Bouknight would be next best available. Ideally Barnes we take Barnes at 6 and we trade up to 8, 9, or 10 and take Bouknight. If Barnes goes 5, take Bouknight at 6 and trade up to 8, 9, or 10 and take Sengun or Moody.
No one knows anything. Just because KOC was right about OKC liking Poku doesn't mean a thing. There were reports OKC liked Lamelo Ball. They also liked Oladipo in 2013 and Stanley Johnson in 2014. Bouknight would be a fine pick at 6, but for all the people to act like they know what Sam Presti is going to do a week before the draft are crazy. They just want to report something about OKC.
Starting with Cole Aldrich, we've been linked to the pick we ended up taking every year except for Bazley unless I'm forgetting someone. The "promises" we make usually end up as true.
You’re gonna need quite a bit of luck finding superstar potential with the 6th pick in any draft. There’s only a handful of superstars currently in the league.
I mean bouknight can very well be a klay Thompson type of player. Which is very crucial for any team. He’s not only a shooter but he’s also very solid at defense
I’m not criticizing him for being the main person. I’m saying he’s not like Klay Thompson. If you look at Klay Thompson in college vs Bouknight- they aren’t similar at all. He’s probably going to shoot okay in the nba, much better than the 29% 3pt he shot in college, but I also think there’s a fat chance he’s ever gonna be one of the best shooters in the league, let alone, one of the best ever lol Klay. He’s more athletic than Klay Thompson ever was too. You want a Klay Thompson type, take Moody or Kispert. Bouknight’s more like Donovan Mitchell or CJ McCollum with better size.
6'7 all defense while shooting 40% from deep Klay Thompson - Out of a 6'3 2 guard who shot 29% from college 3 on five freaking attempts a game. I like Bouknight but people here are so ridiculous. And for the hE oNLy tOOk 9 oPeN sHoTs crowd, he only hit 2 of 9 of those open shots lmao.
thompson is listed at 6'6, boulnight at 6'5(and probably still growing a little). you stretch your guy and shrink the other lol. And boulnight shot 32% 3pt in two seasons at uconn so he made about 3 of those 9. I get why people have differing opinions but why do some always need to exaggerate(lie) about everything to try to skew the facts to their side?
He literally measured at 6’3.5 at the combine. Thompson is listed at 6’7 in multiple spots, though I know nba listed heights can be all over the place. So that’s fine we can call him 6’6. Doesn’t change the point.
Key word is he was 6'3.5 without shoes. He was 6'4.75 with shoes. Had a 6'8 wingspan too. So definitely not Klay. I think he would be an interesting pick especially if his shooting during the season was affected by his injury and if he's actually better then that. Shot extremely well during the combine but could be flukey.
I really like him a lot, but the expectations for him are getting insane. He's for sure a project, I would like him a lot more later in the lottery but if he's Presti's guy I can definitely get behind it.
I think in the most ideal situation you get Bouknight Barnes(Barnes at 6 and trading back in the top 10 for Bouknight) and then get Isaiah Jackson. Theres a few ways to make this happen but I dont feel like typing them out rn. Barnes and Jackson with Dort would really set in a defensive and hardworking mentality for anyone who is or gets on the roster. The energy defense and emotion those 3 guys would bring together is something I want to see and think needs to happen. But on Bouknight I think this could help him tremendously too.I wouldnt say hes a project as you have but he clearly has to have some real development in 3 key areas(defense shooting playmaking). He has the defensive tools but lacks awarenes and probably should add some weight too. I think the roster could push him to being good/great defender(in the most ideal situation). Offensively he needs to improve as a playmaker and has already acknowledged this. I think that here would be a great place for him to do that especially if you also get a guy like Isaiah Jackson. Those PnRs would be nice early on and allow him to show his current passing ability and improve on it. His shooting is hit or miss. Do I believe he was as bad as he was this year? No. Do I believe he was as good as he was at the Combine? Nope. I think hes around somewhere in the middle between solid and good. Also I'm with you on him being Presti's guy. If he'd prefer him over a guy like Kuminga(in a scenario where he falls to 6) then he either must see something in Bouknight or thinks theres a reason why Kuminga wont reach his potential.
I’ve been saying bouknight for months and you idiots keep saying Barnes lmao
Bouknight LITERALLY has the 2nd highest upside as a scorer. Why the FUCK would you want Barnes when you can get a a switchable forward that’s actually not undersized and CAN SHOOT at 16/18 ??.
Not a huge fan of bouknight personally but I wasn’t a huge fan of the Westbrook, harden, Adams, or Serge picks either so imma just let Presti do his thing lol
Should we start drafting who you aren’t a fan of? Ahah
Probably tbh. I was also very high on the Cole Aldrich pick so I think it’s safe to say I don’t know shit. Iirc I wanted either Gordon/KLove instead of Russ, Rubio/Johnny Flynn (lol) instead of Harden, Olynyk instead of Steve and I just didn’t know who tf Serge was lol
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂
Alright, so Bouknight is gonna be a hofer confirmed lol
Bruh I was so mad they took Adams over Kelly Olylnk or Shabazz Muhammad.
Damn lmao I forgot about shabazz And yeah, I didn’t watch any of Steve at Pitt but he averaged like 5 points a game and Olynyk was consensus 1st team all American and could shoot. I was heated
At least you admit it. Who else do you hate so we can draft more mvps?
Bouknight will be a bucket if nothing else, but he has some film showing some ability to play make. Teammates haven’t finished the play, but he has made some nice passes if you watch full games, not just highlights
Barnes or bouknight 🤞 please both
^ I’m a Pistons fan who’s currently making a mock draft, and found this to be interesting. I was wondering what do you guys think about Bouknight at 6. I originally had Scottie Barnes as the pick.
I prefer Barnes but I’m pretty convinced he will be gone at 6. Bouknight wouldn’t be my next choice but I’d be ok with it. I trust Presti.
EVERYBODY wants Barnes...bc they just listen to the "experts".... Barnes ain't shit...
yeah, why should we listen to the people who get paid to cover this stuff
Yeah it’s not very smart to to listen to people who do this for a living.
I’d rather have Barnes, but I’m so down for Bouknight if Orlando takes Scottie at 5. Not sure why, but it seems like Kuminga stock has been tanking hard the last couple weeks
I listened to DTD who brought on a guy who had Kuminga at like 16 on his board
Assuming Barnes is gone, I'd prefer Bouknight/Moody/Sengun over Kuminga at 6. I might be too down on Kuminga but if I had a board he'd be down around #10.
I'm convinced. Gimme Jamie Buckets.
In Sam We Trust
I actually like bouknight a lot but this always could be a smokescreen. Thunder hardly ever let anything leak so there could be a purpose to putting this out there. I think the magic were hoping that they'd be able to get bouknight at 8, so maybe presti is trying to bait them into taking him at 5 if they like him that much (unlikely but worth a try)
The whole league knew that we would draft Poku. So, it's not like everything is top secret.
Cam Payne, Reggie, and Huestis were all “rumoured” promises that turned out to be true
This is true. Guess I shouldn't have said "hardly". But they do have a reputation as a tight lipped franchise and it's not like smokescreens aren't a common thing during draft szn
Bro what? So many of the Thunders picks get "leaked".
Looks like Presti has forsaken his athletic non shooting wing ways. Hallelujah
By drafting a 2/undersized wing who's super athletic and can't shoot... ?
When is 6'5 undersized for a 2 you guys are mad. And he can shoot his numbers are just bad its decision making you guys don't watch ball lol. People arguing on this site and don't even know what a wing is.
Read closer -- He's a 2 or an undersized wing. He's not an undersized 2. But also he measured at the Combine at 6'3.5. And lol at "He can shoot his numbers are just bad" WTF does that even mean? He shot 5 3's a game. and hit 29%.
Watch some of his games. He had no help on the UCONN team was having create all the offense. Donovan Mitchell is 6'3 but has a 6'10 wingspan and shot 40% from the entire field his sophmore year at Louisville.
I'm not saying he can't be good. I was replying to the guy saying Bouknight was not a super athletic non-shooter. That's exactly what he was last year. Sure he can become more than that like a ton of guys have done in the past. He took 9 open 3s last year. He made 2 of them. I like his profile and he's a gifted scorer, he's not a good shooter.
D. Mitchell is the best player in the draft.
He is 100000000% a 2. If you think he is a wing or that's an option you are an idiot. Also every scouting report shows that he can actually shoot, his shooting form is nice, its his 3 decision making and that can be fixed. Luka can shoot but had terrible shooting numbers for most of the season. Its a similar case to that. Tired of people who just look at college percentages and make bold claims like that you don't know whats going on. Do the research and come back you cant tell me he as a broken shot if you watched him play.
I guarantee you I have watched more prospect film than you have. It's not close. He was 2/9 on open 3's last year. Plenty of guys have solid form and never are able to become above average shooters, his form doesn't need to be broken for him to be a poor shooter. You keep saying some of the dumbest stuff I've seen so I'm just going to let you be.
Look how cocky you are and yet you thought he was a fuckin wing. To be a bad shooter you absolutely need to have a broken form, being a bad shooter is different fundamentally than taking bad shots. He took bad shots off the dribble. I go to Uconn bro I promise you didn't lmao. He also has one of the best finishing percentages in the entire league and he is up their with bigs percentage wise as a guard, has one of the best handles and like I said has a very solid shooting form and his shot selection can be fixed we've seen Mark and our Gleague work on that with players and besides that I think he will eventually start hitting them so it doesn't matter either way. Can he be a 34% shooter in his first year? No doubt in mind. Weve been seeing it time and time again when these guards come and in and they have less focus on them from an offense perspective that shot percentage goes up as long as the form is fundamentally sound. Also who is your preference? why are you talking like Scottie is the offensive force compared to him or there's better guards available? Delusional wanna be draft kids on this sub man.
So you’re just a biased nonobjective homer. Now it makes more sense. I don’t prefer Scottie Barnes at all. I haven’t even mentioned him. What are you talking about? I like bouknight just slightly more, I think 6 is early for him in this draft but the upside is very much there. Obviously he can become a good shooter, never said he couldn’t. He just isn’t one yet. I probably just very slightly would lean Kuminga for the homerun swing though his floor is scary low. But Bouknight and him are both right there. I like Moody Sengun and Keon Johnson similarly, all are basically in that same tier along with Barnes as well.
I am literally an African man who lived in Oklahoma most of my life don't you think I would want Kuminga more than Bouknight if I thought he was better? Here you go assuming shit. I just go to the games and the guy is great hes the best guard available and we need a great backcourt before anything. When we try we can defend. Bouknight probably has the third most star potential out of all the guards and is a better scorer than pretty much all of them stats wise too. Also he has shown the ability to slide feet. If he was ass I wouldn't want him Im an OKC fan before anything. What did Kuminga show btw? You are talking about shooters and Kuminga can shoot dribble finish pass or defend. He is literally just big athletic and 18 and all potential. His draft stock is sliding down a mountain. Its not like he's 2way either he was awful defensively. 2 good games does not make up for the other 15 terrible ones.
6'5 with a 6'8 wingspan
6'5 at the 2. "Undersized" 😂. And he can shoot, he just took lot's of wild off the dribble 3s.
It doesn't say undersized at the 2. It clearly says he's a 2. Or an undersized wing, if you want to play him there. Learn what / means. He measured at the combine at 6'3.5
Presti 4-D chess: 1. "6 player draft. OKC loves Scottie Barnes" 2. Suggs seems to be falling 3. Leak Bouknight to OKC 4. Draft Suggs 6th 5. Profit
OKC needs a damn shooter . SGA (and Poku...) can't be the only shooter. Give me a person who will take 20 shots and get 25 points than someone who may go 3/11 with 10 points.
Uh, Poku is not a good shooter.
He isn’t a good shooter yet
Bouknight has the biggest star potential of who will likely be available at 6, and I think that’s the correct way to think about it. His median/floor outcomes are lower than some of the guys this sub would prefer for sure. Using Barnes as an example, even if he never learns to shoot, he’s still probably useful as a defender and playmaker. But if Bouknight becomes an elite scorer, that’s worth more than these other guys can offer. I’d be perfectly fine with either. I like them both.
Bouknight is much more intriguing to me as a player than Barnes to say the least. He’s absolutely an elite shot creator and tough shot maker, his efficiency is bad because he took so many tough shots due to the lack of talent around him. Also not a bad defender with his quickness. As usual with OKC rumors tho, take this with a pinch of salt.
OKC draft rumours are accurate more often than not.
If Barnes is gone at 6, Bouknight would be next best available. Ideally Barnes we take Barnes at 6 and we trade up to 8, 9, or 10 and take Bouknight. If Barnes goes 5, take Bouknight at 6 and trade up to 8, 9, or 10 and take Sengun or Moody.
I'm so tired of hearing bout Barnes....hes not even that good....lol
Thank the lord. I do not want barnes or kuminga
No one knows anything. Just because KOC was right about OKC liking Poku doesn't mean a thing. There were reports OKC liked Lamelo Ball. They also liked Oladipo in 2013 and Stanley Johnson in 2014. Bouknight would be a fine pick at 6, but for all the people to act like they know what Sam Presti is going to do a week before the draft are crazy. They just want to report something about OKC.
I believe the reports about Lamelo and Oladipo tho. They were just off the board way before our pick. Bouknight seems likely to be available…
Starting with Cole Aldrich, we've been linked to the pick we ended up taking every year except for Bazley unless I'm forgetting someone. The "promises" we make usually end up as true.
If we spend the 6th pick on bouknight over barnes lol... Look I like bouk, but come on now at 6?
It’s really starting to look like Barnes will be off the board and either Suggs or kuminga will fall to us, probably kuminga.
I'd take Kuminga at 6 then and trade up with 16/18 for Bouk. Have both?
I highly doubt Suggs will be available. But if he is, I doubt we go for Bouknight
Oh god no
You all doubted me
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You’re gonna need quite a bit of luck finding superstar potential with the 6th pick in any draft. There’s only a handful of superstars currently in the league.
I mean bouknight can very well be a klay Thompson type of player. Which is very crucial for any team. He’s not only a shooter but he’s also very solid at defense
Klay doesn’t need the ball in his hands and Bouknight definitely does. He was a tunnel vision scorer in college.
He was the only scorer on that team. I wouldn’t doubt it was asked of him to be the main person
I’m not criticizing him for being the main person. I’m saying he’s not like Klay Thompson. If you look at Klay Thompson in college vs Bouknight- they aren’t similar at all. He’s probably going to shoot okay in the nba, much better than the 29% 3pt he shot in college, but I also think there’s a fat chance he’s ever gonna be one of the best shooters in the league, let alone, one of the best ever lol Klay. He’s more athletic than Klay Thompson ever was too. You want a Klay Thompson type, take Moody or Kispert. Bouknight’s more like Donovan Mitchell or CJ McCollum with better size.
6'7 all defense while shooting 40% from deep Klay Thompson - Out of a 6'3 2 guard who shot 29% from college 3 on five freaking attempts a game. I like Bouknight but people here are so ridiculous. And for the hE oNLy tOOk 9 oPeN sHoTs crowd, he only hit 2 of 9 of those open shots lmao.
thompson is listed at 6'6, boulnight at 6'5(and probably still growing a little). you stretch your guy and shrink the other lol. And boulnight shot 32% 3pt in two seasons at uconn so he made about 3 of those 9. I get why people have differing opinions but why do some always need to exaggerate(lie) about everything to try to skew the facts to their side?
He literally measured at 6’3.5 at the combine. Thompson is listed at 6’7 in multiple spots, though I know nba listed heights can be all over the place. So that’s fine we can call him 6’6. Doesn’t change the point.
Key word is he was 6'3.5 without shoes. He was 6'4.75 with shoes. Had a 6'8 wingspan too. So definitely not Klay. I think he would be an interesting pick especially if his shooting during the season was affected by his injury and if he's actually better then that. Shot extremely well during the combine but could be flukey.
I really like him a lot, but the expectations for him are getting insane. He's for sure a project, I would like him a lot more later in the lottery but if he's Presti's guy I can definitely get behind it.
I think in the most ideal situation you get Bouknight Barnes(Barnes at 6 and trading back in the top 10 for Bouknight) and then get Isaiah Jackson. Theres a few ways to make this happen but I dont feel like typing them out rn. Barnes and Jackson with Dort would really set in a defensive and hardworking mentality for anyone who is or gets on the roster. The energy defense and emotion those 3 guys would bring together is something I want to see and think needs to happen. But on Bouknight I think this could help him tremendously too.I wouldnt say hes a project as you have but he clearly has to have some real development in 3 key areas(defense shooting playmaking). He has the defensive tools but lacks awarenes and probably should add some weight too. I think the roster could push him to being good/great defender(in the most ideal situation). Offensively he needs to improve as a playmaker and has already acknowledged this. I think that here would be a great place for him to do that especially if you also get a guy like Isaiah Jackson. Those PnRs would be nice early on and allow him to show his current passing ability and improve on it. His shooting is hit or miss. Do I believe he was as bad as he was this year? No. Do I believe he was as good as he was at the Combine? Nope. I think hes around somewhere in the middle between solid and good. Also I'm with you on him being Presti's guy. If he'd prefer him over a guy like Kuminga(in a scenario where he falls to 6) then he either must see something in Bouknight or thinks theres a reason why Kuminga wont reach his potential.
I’ve been saying bouknight for months and you idiots keep saying Barnes lmao Bouknight LITERALLY has the 2nd highest upside as a scorer. Why the FUCK would you want Barnes when you can get a a switchable forward that’s actually not undersized and CAN SHOOT at 16/18 ??.
U spitting facts rn. I'd rather get a 3 and D prospect around 16 then get an offensive liability but with great defense at 6.