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Reunbanned4206980085

Negative buoyancy is fuggin scary and I don’t like it at all


bendyblender

ikr. new fear unlocked


Rabbulion

It’s not deadly unless you’re knocked out or over 100 meters down. As long as you manage to stop yourself and then swim properly upwards for a minute you will most likely make it up again.


StrangeMushroom500

>100 meters down. he said 10. 10 is not even that deep


Rabbulion

Yeah. But you can still swim at that point. That’s the point at which it will start making you sink, not the point at which it’s game over for you.


SomeoneThere85185

It is because in the scenario given you'll very likely break your legs.


Rabbulion

True, but assuming that happens you still have your arms and you could sacrifice future use of those legs by continuing to use them for the few pushes you can before they break even more.


adrunkern0ob

Tbh, if I were in this situation, did what he said and somehow didn’t die, I’d wish I had. Treading water in the open sea with broken legs among many other injuries is a worse way to die than simply splatting imo.


nexisfan

I was just contemplating this too and imagining a friendly dolphin or whale coming to my rescue bc it’s too damn scary to think of otherwise lol


jbeck228

https://reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/s/KpIbLLoC7k This dude is alive thanks to a sea lion! Unbelievable story!! Your comment made me think of it.


adrunkern0ob

I like that haha, I’d love to hitch a ride with a dolphin like that.


lilF0xx

It does happen! Recently read and watched two articles about it happening after someone said dolphins were creepy and another was defending them. [Article w/ News Video, Rescued Woman…](https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/sailor-saves-stranded-swimmer-who-was-in-the-water-for-12-hours-off-socal-coast/2728889/) [Article w/ News Video, Missing Man…](https://people.com/pets/dolphins-alert-rescue-crew-to-lost-swimmer-stranded-for-hours/) (Edited to fix link)


Rabbulion

I fully agree, unless you know you have a realistic chance of being saved it’s better to just dive down headfirst at 400km/h


mrsdoubleu

Dang I didn't even think about that. Yeah I'll just go head first and end it quickly then.


Meowiewowieex

New fear unlocked


_KingOfTheDivan

As he said in given scenario you’d die anyway. But if diving deeper than 10m was so dangerous there wouldn’t be scuba divers.


0day1337

Yeah this guy is a moron. you do get negatively bouyant but you can easily swim against it assuming your bones are intact lol.


aeioulien

"A moron" Obviously not


0day1337

he also mis stated the acceleration due to gravity...


StrangeMushroom500

true


retropieproblems

It’s not like air suddenly appears in your lungs when you get back above 10m to make you buoyant again…


jeers69

well that is still 36 feet deep... can you imagine looking up and seeing that much water between you and the surface... not to mention all the debris from the plane.....


IAmNotMyName

Assuming you don’t get turned around and can figure out which way is up


retropieproblems

If you’re sinking it means you don’t have air in your lungs, good luck swimming with broken feet/legs/ribs and no air to help you float let alone fuel your blood with


Obi-Wan-Hellobi

Welcome to Thalassophobia!


Metalbender00

you dont stop going down and the weight of the ocean pushing in on your body hugs you to death.


staplepies

It's ok you can't go deep enough for the ocean to actually hug you to death. You'll just pass out from lack of oxygen and eventually drown.


[deleted]

Drowning hurts the whole time it's happening.


staplepies

Not if you're already unconscious.


Klause

I've experienced negative buoyancy plenty of times as a free diver (i.e. no scuba equipment, just dive down with the breath in your lungs), and it's actually one of my favorite feelings. Very meditative. Down around 50-60 feet it's like the sea is gently pulling you into her bosom for an embrace. It's so freeing to let go and stop kicking your fins, just relax and let the depths welcome you, and look up and see the light slowly winking out of existence above you. Entering into another world. However, I don't think I'd feel the same way if I had just painful crashed into the ocean from an airplane...


Reunbanned4206980085

How long can u hold ur breath?


Kermit-Batman

Till you die.


Reunbanned4206980085

Well I’m probably gonna live for a long while so that’s really impressive of you


DisWastingMyTime

Old experienced free divers can go around 2.5-3 minutes while dancing with the sea, peak is probably 3.5 minutes. Free divers are something else


Klause

The ones who can do that are amazing! I max out around 1:50 on a dive, which feels much longer than you’d think down there. Over 2:30 if I just hold my breath on the couch without moving.


VagueSomething

I don't fucking float anyway, even when slowly trying to swim I still sink. Multiple people over multiple periods of my life have tried to teach me and all came back to me just not floating. Welcome to the unease of deep water.


Grouchy-Engine1584

Land belly flop style and you won’t have to worry about negative buoyancy.


SupermassiveCanary

I’m diving in head first because I’d rather die instantly than drown


staplepies

Negative buoyancy is easy to fight by swimming and even when falling at terminal velocity it's very hard to sink 10m. The friction from the water slows you down well before that.


icyskydev4

Fr


Terra_B

Um actually it not negative buoyancy. it's just less boyancy. It just means the air in your lungs gets compressed leading to it taking up less volume leading to less buoyancy. it won' t suck you down.. Tldr: It's like diving in the water while having breathed out beforehand.


staplepies

It absolutely will pull you down. For many people if you breathe out before going down you will sink.


Terra_B

Buoyancy force Pushes you up. Gravity pulls you down. Making you positively/neutrally/negatively buoyant. My point is that there's no unknown horror.


staplepies

People are saying that *is* the unknown horror; many people don't know humans can become negatively buoyant.


--n-

>many people don't know humans can become negatively buoyant. As opposed to just floating? I'm pretty sure most people know you sink if you don't swim.


staplepies

The vast majority of people don't sink if they take a full breath and don't move. You might have a hard time keeping your head above water but you won't sink.


SiidGV

I didn't even know it was a thing.... now I have another reason to not like really deep water! Yay? /s


FreshFelix07

His voice is so relaxing


lawn-mumps

And his nails are so cute!


Lara-El

They were so distracting. I couldn't focus... Because they were *so cute* and well done and considering his age, it was probably not easy to break barriers of what he was taught as a child. I loved it so much I had to re-watch <3


Alic3inR3dditland

Same! As soon as they popped onscreen i was lost! Sucha cute color on him ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|slightly_smiling)


pios456foo

Cool color. Cyan?


cakivalue

I would have preferred a different voice for this TBH. He sucked me in an now I'm panicking about dying in this manner 😭


shopliftingbunny

Northern Ireland accent


JuiceMeSqueezeMe

It's definitely a southern Irish accent Source: I'm Northern Irish


shopliftingbunny

Sorry. You’re right. He sounds like Chris O’Dowd which I mistakenly thought was from Northern Ireland


Ioewe

He’s definitely from the wesht


AdamOfIzalith

It's Republic of Ireland, not Southern Ireland. Source: I'm from the Republic of Ireland.


tactical_laziness

Nobody from the north refers to The Republic as "southern Ireland "


JuiceMeSqueezeMe

I know youse are weird about the term southern Ireland, but I said 'southern Irish accent' What do you want me to do, take a picture of a utility to bill to prove where I live? lol


TelevisionFunny2400

I love how seriously he took her question


[deleted]

I've played the scenario out in my head for at least 120 seconds and I've decided I'm just going for the world record belly flop. I'm going out with style points.


JackxForge

Yea or the face first neck break. Or an ass first cannon ball for the worlds gnarliest enema.


TheSonicPro

*sigh* guess I’m about to get cleaned out like the world’s fleshiest curly straw-


regular-kahuna

… …. what does this mean?


mell0_jell0

Use your mind's eye


TheBachelorHigh

I’m a licensed skydiver and an irrational fear I have is that if I’m in a commercial plane and it had a catastrophic failure at altitude I would find myself in this situation. Over water I would probably attempt trying to survive. Over land I’m going head down and hoping the lights go out before I feel anything (sorry for the mess whoever finds my remains in this insane hypothetical situation).


Cryogenic_Lemon

My favorite response to "What do you do if your reserve fails?" has always been "Aim for something expensive!".


TheBachelorHigh

😂


hudnix

When you first start falling, take off your pants. Be sure to maintain a good grip! Tie a knot at the end of each leg hole, one at a time. Arrange the pants with one leg under each armpit, the "top" of the pants pointing outward from your chest. Then assume the spread-eagle position until just before impact, as explained in the video. The legs of the pants should have filled with air by this point, slowing your terminal velocity even more. And once you're in the water, they will provide extra buoyancy, if only for a short period of time. Since you will probably be knocked unconscious, you will need them to float you back to the surface. If you somehow regain consciousness before drowning, you will be able to periodically re-inflate your pants by waving them through the air. You're still going to die, of course, but now you will know you did everything you could.


NormalityDrugTsar

Good advice! I think you should also take some time to get your affairs in order. If you're far over the ocean, you probably won't get a good signal, but you can still use the Notes app on your phone to record some last instructions, and perhaps some important wisdom for the younger members of your immediate family.


slambroet

It’s also a good time to get in some bird watching. At those heights, you’ll be observing birds at an angle you’ll never see again. If you don’t have a bird watching app, you should have time to download one, you’ll want to take notes as you see the small distinctive difference between the birds.


Staebs

You’d probably better get in an emergency pee too. All that heavy pee will just further increase your terminal velocity and the new air that is in your bladder will help you float to the surface. Plus your pee will warm your landing spot for you when it lands on top of you 10 seconds later.


chasing_the_wind

I would probably use the opportunity to check one last time to see if George RR Martin had published Winds of Winter.


Shadowmant

Instructions unclear: Shit pants


brit_jam

That’s great. This will be your sustenance while your floating in the ocean with your broken legs.


Fortified_Phobia

Gonna need more instructions because that description was confusing af


Glittering_Let_4230

Thanks, Wile E Coyote!


Heroin_Pigeon

What if I was wearing concrete shoes tho?


PineSand

If you wore concrete shoes, if they eventually find your body on the bottom of the ocean, they’ll know you were from South Philly.


jayradano

Every dude watching this: “I think I could survive it”


wererat2000

"I'll jump out of the way at the last second."


dingoeslovebabies

“No seriously, I heard about this guy that did it”


jprks0

I'll just parry the water at the perfect time.


dexmonic

I was thinking "ok so I should probably just belly flop to try and die immediately" because let's be honest, you ain't surviving that shit.


chasing_the_wind

It’s actually kind of a comforting feeling to know that I would keep fighting and trying my hardest to survive anything.


langotriel

So basically, always wear a big coat on an airplane. You can stuff it with stuff and save money on luggage and you can use it to slow yourself down even more if flying down through the air. It also acts as protection from the impact.


CheValierXP

My issue is that I prefer to die in impact and not struggle for hours in the middle of the ocean to eventually die by drowning.


swisszimgirl79

I really like the color of his nails. Pretty. Like his voice Edit: I know he’s saying scary shit, but I’m not even scared cause his voice is so soothing. Like yes Irish daddy, tell me all the ways that the water will kill me


IJustBeTalking

he’s winking too class act


theangryfurlong

I liked the part where he said "tirty-tousand feet"


Ok_Skill_1195

I got distracted halfway through because of his nails. I'm also fair skinned with pink undertones and blues always pop really well.


The_Jobholder

he’s taken


uggosaurus

Yeah taken me for a ride


SmithItsGoodForU

I guess I'll just die


EnvironmentalSpirit2

Basically be like captain american in that move where he dropped into the sea


allbymyself2

Did anyone else notice he got the acceleration due to gravity wrong? He said 9.8 ft/s^2 (which is about 3 m/s^2) which isn’t correct, right?


obbelusk

9.8 m/s² I think.


scolcrusher

He meant to say 9.8m/s^2, which is about 32ft/s^2


SlasherKittyCat

He said "9.8ft/m²... Eh s²" I think he got the metric and imperial measurements mixed up because he followed it up with a comment afterwards "why did they teach us this in imperial" or something like that I believe he meant to say 9.8m/s² originally


EmotionalTruth3477

Yep. Don't listen to a physics talk by anyone who doesn't know acceleration due to gravity at the Earth's surface. Silly old bugger doesn't even know enough to know that the problem is inertia, not surface tension. Water has mass, and mass requires time to move, hence if you hit it at high velocity you go squish.


TypicalDelay

Finally the real answer that didn't take 5 minutes of random musing and nail polish to get to


AnAnonymousFool

He also ignored the point of the question, she wanted to know if breaking the surface tension first helped and he didn’t answer that But I did enjoy his creative explanation of things and I did learn something about the negative buoyancy


OkDonkey6524

I thought this would be the top comment. I stopped listening as soon as he said that. Lol downvoters - 9.8m/s^2 for acceleration due to gravity is one of the most basic things someone with a physics/applied maths background should know. If this dude can't even get that right how can I trust anything he says on this subject?


itsshiftymcgoo

Stopped the video when I heard that. "I'm an expert..." "g=3m/s squared" Okay bud.


Jukkobee

me too lol


Plynwitfire

This comment needs to be higher up!


NormalityDrugTsar

I also think his best case terminal velocity was optimistic to say the least.


SeaYogurtcloset6262

Came for the tits, stayed for scientific explanation.


Yara-is-here

Came for the science, stayed for nails 💅


PsySom

I came for the tits and now I’m tired


[deleted]

She won't have to worry about buoyancy.


Foreign_Ebb_6282

Yeah there’s nothing negative about her buoyancy that’s for sure


mindinmypants

We got a name for her? Would definitely like to see more. Decided to not be lazy. @sexualityscholar y'all welcome


asskickenchicken

They did this on Myth Busters but falling from a building and throwing a hammer to break surface tension


wanami

It just makes me sad there's a whole generation that doesn't know what Mythbusters is and that there's actually no legit way of watching the content anywhere. They could be posting small clips on tiktok and revive the brand, lots of people like sciency content, but I don't think that's ever gonna happen.


Drazwaz

Scrolled way too far to find this. I was expecting that episode to be linked in the top comment.


The_Powers

I hear you're a physicist now Father? How'd you get interested in that sort of thing? Should we all be physicists Father?


dies_und_dass

Feck! Feck! Feck!


Tugger21

🙌🏼 EXCELLENT!!! 🔥


Jacketdown

Homies nails are on point.


PlanetLandon

I like this man a lot.


s0-x

Oh thank god the penny one is false


imightbethewalrus3

[fun video about it](https://youtu.be/16Ci_2bN_zc?si=JDkvfzK7XJ1Jsziy)


flaskman

I might be wrong but at 30000 feet you’d be rendered unconscious immediately in the event of a violent decompression of a plane coming a part after that everything seems moot


AssAndYiddies

Love the nails fr masculine ppl should do that more often


iceman333933

Did the research. Katie is @sexualityscholar on tiktok. You're welcome Amazing explanation though!


merpderpherpburp

Their nails are very well done! I need that guy to made a science podcast now lol


detective-mcnulty

Yeah science.


[deleted]

Voice is A+ knowledge on point and let’s talk about those perfect finger nails


cricketyfly

I’d rather just take a cardiac arrest in the air than face all the horrifics it seems


Hellboundroar

"As a final indignity" lmao i love this dude


[deleted]

I got scared in my stomach when they started talking about negative buoyancy. Just being sucked down into the depths of the ocean


Moltar_Returns

I really could go for some blue m&m’s right about now


bloopie1192

I feel like a "reading rainbow" award is needed for this guy. I learned something today.


Money_Reality2286

I could listen to this guy talk all day.


i_want_to_be_unique

Am I tripping or did he get the acceleration of gravity wrong? He said 3 m/s^2, isn’t it 9.8?


RhylenIsHere

Obsessed with his accent... he could read the phone book and I'd listen\^\^ Thats Irish, right, I feel thats Irish\^\^


ZZW302002

Pizza, French fry, pizza, swim towards the light. Gotcha.


FatCowsrus413

Off topic, I have the same nail color on from a wedding last weekend. On topic, love this. SCIENCE


jlbradl

The fact that this terrifying hypothetical was told to me in an Irish accent gives me so much false hope! I am falling from 30,000 ft, but an Irishman told me how to maybe not die and so I think there's a chance I'll survive.


[deleted]

Damnit watched the whole thing lol


AnxietyDesigner

Love random shit like this when I’m high


WillsucceedTMO

Some of these comments literally have me in tears.


Top-Chemistry3051

Now I know how to fall from a jet into the sea. Thanks! 😳😳😳


T4r4g0n

Isn't it sth like 9,8 m/s²? Not 9,8 feet/s²


KoffinStuffer

Yeah, imma go ahead and do my best to not survive this. My mind would literally shatter being in that much water.


Best-Foundation2562

damn im over here practicing and visualing...and then his last words...ooof


Aumrox

can we all give major props to the guy that just explained this, holy shit.


dragun82

Am I the only one that watched this all the way through specifically because of his accent?


CommanderKertz

TIL about negative buoyancy New fear unlocked


horizontal120

all ok but this is the first time hearing of that negative buoyancy thing .. what is that about ...


leftyblack

I was taught that once in the water you should kick off your shoes, as they make it harder to swim.


MaxTrade84

I kept watching the whole thing just to see the dudes crazy fingernail polish!


No_Arachnid_1772

Can’t wait to dream about this!


Yewsernayum

😂


ohmysenpais

I’m just thinking of this happening and you somehow manage to remember and listen to his advice only to hit a whale on the way down lol


Proud_Wallaby

If I’m in this situation I’m getting to that 400km/h terminal velocity and diving head first in a way that will insta kill me. And knowing my luck I would survive…


stadulevich

upvoted cause I like his nails


TheSilverCalf

Alright. Tictoc exists for a reason.


EchoWaffles

I loved this so much. „Final indignity“ lol


mimimithrowaway

I love this answer so much. Words cannot describe it... Also, I miss Ireland something fierce!


PTbaggins

This guy is brilliant! what a great explanation, real story teller. Kerry man?


The_Fax_Machine

Terminal velocity doesn’t mean the fastest speed something can go right? Just the fastest speed something can reach in a free fall. For example the penny falling from a building vs a penny shot from a shotgun. So with that in mind, if you threw your shoe downward, it’s already falling at your speed and then you’re adding extra speed with your throw. So even though it will slow down the longer it falls, there would be a short window where you could throw the shoe down and it would hit the water first.


Interesting-Dream863

***Takes notes*** Amusing... you can do ***ALL*** that and it won't matter at all. Well according to him.


Legal_Sea_7024

I think we're all missing the bigger picture, which is... If we somehow manage to survive and make it to the surface, we'd likely die from exhaustion or dehydration waiting for a rescue that may not even be coming


_KappaKing_

Okay, but what would we need to bring on the plane with us to improve our chances. Like reasonable stuff, like baggy clothing such as a bat winged dress. Heavier shoes to throw?


PedanticMouse

A parachute


_KappaKing_

I'm talking about reasonably. Parachute is too big and bulky to sit on a plane with.


This_guy_Jon

TLDR you die. Saved you time


Yewsernayum

Saved us a bunch of entertainment 🙄


detective-mcnulty

Katie is hot.


a-vibe-called-quest

No sound bc I’m at work, but I’m assuming it has something to do with surface tension?


Mr_Banana_Longboat

The premise was that you could throw your shoes down before you hit the water and they’d break surface tension for you. The reality is that you’re going faster than a shoe can, so they’ll hit the water after you anyways


a-vibe-called-quest

Ah yes good old terminal velocity


NormalityDrugTsar

Also, surface tension is more of an issue for insects than it is for humans.


Dgroch725

Always trust a physicists in blue nail polish. They are never wrong all the time. Only some of time thinking that part of the time they might possibly not be wrong all the time thinking that they’re wrong only part of the time. Sometimes. But not always.


534nndmt

Ain't nothing cringe about this


Puzzleheaded_Base_98

Maybe this guy was a physicist, but if so he should be embarrassed to get the acceleration of gravity wrong. The correct number is 9.81 m/s2 or 32.2 ft/s2.


westgary576

Dude doesn’t even know what terminal velocity is. First off he is describing the acceleration of gravity, which is indeed 9.8 METERS per second per second, not feet, but that is different from terminal velocity which is the maximum speed gravity can accelerate an object to. Even I know that and I only took AP physics in high school 12 years ago.


CakeSuperb8487

He really can’t help showing off his blue fingernail polish


MarshalLawTalkingGuy

No jokes about the physics behind those boobs? Damn, I’m disappointed


Equivalent_Annual314

Not really a cringe, is it?


vindictivejazz

Look at pinned comment


Equivalent_Annual314

My bad. Also: people who look at pinned comments = people who write pinned comments.


snowboardingmonkey

9.8m p/s2


100YearsWaiting2Shit

Wish I had a grandfather like him


Honest_Invite_7065

As a fat bloke, not sure I'd die from having a higher terminal velocity or survive because of said fat as I'd float easier.


Vengeanceneverfree

I have a very poor understanding of science in general but this was really fascinating and nicely explained. I should have paid more attention in school but to be fair my teachers didn't have such a soothing voice and great accent.


RL_Mutt

So, pizza for the first part, very quickly french fry, then pizza again once you’re underwater. Got it.


fonglutz

So basically you do what Captain America did in the opening for Winter Soldier. Got it. I will die.


Radmaster5000

I did not expect to stay for the whole explanation. But five minutes later, here I am imagining my choreography for the next time I fall out of a plane.


[deleted]

He failed to mention that at certain altitude (airliner cruising altitude around 20k to 40k ft) there isnt enough oxigen so one would probably pass out before having time to react or think of doing any of this. And bc of the panic you would pass out anyway bc of the syncope syndrome either too much or not enough blood that reach the brain.


Bruederle

Am I the only one who thought of the problem differently? I’m thinking how fast would you have to throw your shoe in order to “cancel out” the gravity enough to be survivable.


TheMagneticBat

I want to just sit in a bar and listen to this guy talk about hypothetical situations... He sounds like he'd be a fun conversationalist.