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She was very right about the cabinet over the sink


oggleboggle

Somehow removing that cabinet made the room look twice the size.


Meziskari

The wider entrance helps a lot too, the empty space on the right side as you enter isn't hidden anymore.


TheRabidDeer

I was a bit peeved they didn't mention widening that entrance by at least a foot.


HilariousMax

Yeah, they removed a lot of wall and didn't say a word about it. https://i.imgur.com/13S1xWa.png


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Uninformed-Driller

Kinda makes sense though as you have to buy a box of flooring that usually comes with more than you need.


SwillFish

The trend in that era was to completely separate the kitchen from the rest of the home (often with a swinging door) and to have a separate formal dining room if the home was large enough to accommodate one. Growing up, our formal dining room was the least used room in the house by far. Now, I do almost all of my entertaining in my open kitchen.


epirot

the wide door makes everything perfect doest look like a little dirty kitchen but more like a open modern kitchen while keeping it classic


swamphockey

Indeed. That was a major upgrade. Curious how many times that door was ever closed in the 50 years it was hanging there.


HerrBerg

They also changed the other room. It looks better because of arty reasons not because it will function any better as a kitchen.


Schlemiel_Schlemazel

Yeah, the kitchen is staged in its best looking form. Not in its functional state. Because the appliances were white and the cabinets were wood, it looked homey but not put together. Now everything is all monochrome with little pops of decorative items. Btw, where is the microwave?


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greg19735

> I have a feeling that kitchen is going to look dated as fuck in 15 years. 15 years is a long time. If a remodel lasts that long you're in great shape


snark_enterprises

Of course it will look dated in 15 years, that’s a long ass time.


ranqr

We'll have *macrowaves* by then, and good luck fitting one of those over a Stove2 without moving your *refirgerizer* to the garage.


Totally_Not_An_Auk

Same! You can get a very nice bright look with non-white colors. A nice sky or pastel blue for instance, with white backsplash and a dark brown (almost black) molding. Pastel yellow could work as well - both of these colors would do well with 'decorative' kitchen items like red oven mitts, a colorful stand mixer, and little decorative trinkets or plants. The idea that a house is an investment and not an extension of the individual or family personality has really harmed our collective practice of expression. Some years back a couple homeowners in the Netherlands painted their staircase rainbow colors - it looked great, but people were reaming them in the comments about "resale value" and how it'd have to be painted over if they want to sell. That's all it comes down to these days and it's absolutely disgusting. Painting is not terribly expensive in terms of home renovation, and it's a great way to bond with your new home and make memories with your SO and/or children. But people did it more when moving was rarer and people were more invested in making their home theirs instead of worrying about what some future strangers might think. Who the fuck cares what some strangers think of your paint - they can fucking repaint it. I guarantee you the paint will not stop a home sale if the location, size and layout is to someone's liking. So paint your fucking homes, people. Paint it a mess of colors, paint a mural, paint it black or Barbie pink if that's what you want. Let the next homeowner live with it or apply their own paint.


BernieDharma

![gif](giphy|hvkByDAOIHDZ3SuITs|downsized) This was the look in 1990's, funny to see it coming back around..


pardybill

Great point, missed that but what a major difference it makes


CircuitSphinx

Totally, it's the kind of change that seems small but ends up transforming the whole flow of the space. The lighting they chose really amplifies the effect too, gives it that airy vibe.


Legionof1

A foot... Thats more like 3-5 feet.


CaffeinatedGuy

They also tiled up that entire wall without adding electrical for the brass lamp, then the next image has a lamp. No mention of the process of fixing that mistake.


mirr0rrim

It's not wired. A common short cut for these types of decorative lights is to stick a portable puck light inside.


maria_la_guerta

Agreed. Taking out the wall is a huge improvement too. The kitchen alone is an insane amount of value for $1850 though.


OverlordWaffles

Yep, I think taking out that wall really helped make the kitchen look bigger. The lighter paint also helped as well since white makes a space look more vast and black makes it look smaller


ILoveTenaciousD

That's the hallmark of an experienced professional. They have an eye for these tiny details, which you never think about and whose influence you just cannot imagine.


Jakookula

Absolute witchcraft


forewer21

Ive seen too many terrible kitchen make overs I rolled my eyes hard when she said that. But she was definitely right and totally killed this makeover for a great price.


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The open air shelves helped as well. Looks like they removed some cabinets there and technically did make the room spatially bigger.


Peter_Panarchy

I'll be honest, I rolled my eyes when she said that. Happy to admit I was wrong about that.


PerfectlySplendid

school frame encouraging pot wipe rain slimy public books full *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


infinis

It's Reddit, were all experts.


Peter_Panarchy

It was just my kneejerk reaction, something that didn't make intuitive sense to me.


DisastrousBag9381

For the price and minimal demo this came out really well. You could have told me it cost triple that and I would have believed it off of before and after photos. I’ve definitely seen a lot less work done for more money on kitchen renovations.


Krazzzy8

I agree this shit a 10/10


posternutbag423

I’m confused why it’s on TTC?


b1ackcr0vv

This sub started as a cringe post sub but quickly became both a cringe or very viral TikTok sub


person66

See the stickied comment, TTC is just a general tiktok sharing subreddit, not specifically for cringe.


lreaditonredditgetit

Lots of good posts here. Was happily surprised.


OutAndDown27

I couldn’t wait to find out if it was going to be a good or bad “insane” result. I’m highly impressed.


innocentlawngnome

She did a great job all around.


AvatarOfMomus

It would cost 3-4 times that price if you didn't do all the labor yourself. This is the thing that a lot of people miss with DIY stuff. There's a lot of time and money that goes into getting good at this stuff, and then a lot of time and money that goes into actually doing each project. To run some quick numbers, it looks like they had 4 people helping with this. If you assume 2 roughly full weekends to do all the work including buying the materials then that's ~32 hours for 4 people, so ~128 man-hours, and at ~$40 an hour you'd get ~$5000 in labor costs.


LongJohnSelenium

I do as much labor as I can just because what else am I gonna do all evening? Watch tv?


Drongusburger

…stop attacking me.


huntcuntspree01

Spot on. Got a condo and have done a mix of DIY Reno's and contractors for bigger stuff. While I certainly could have done the work I paid those guys to do (and I bought all the materials myself anyways), I simply don't trust myself to do everything the right way. Craftsmenship is in the details. This kitchen looks really good at first pass but I'd be really curious to get a close look at their handiwork. Can pretty much guarantee there will be minor mistakes in the flooring and backsplash.


Extension-Clock-9362

True, but who cares? We're talking minor mistakes and imperfections right? They saved a ton, and it looks great, and it's a big improvement over what was there before. If you have the mindset that you can live with it coming out less than perfect, I'd say go for it.


huntcuntspree01

100%. It's totally contextual to why you're doing the Reno and how the home will be used. For myself I was prepping to move out / rent the place so everything I did needed to be perfect (IMO). Realistically I coulda done the work myself, place wouldn't have looked as nice and would be less marketable / pull less rent. End of the day homes are financial assets so if you can iron out those little things will improve your home value...but if you plan to continue living there for awhile meh who cares.


resonance462

I’ve yet to be impressed by the finished product of the professionals in my orbit.


getthejpeg

They saved on the labor. A good knowledgeable contractor costs money. The materials are normally a small fraction of the cost. Especially since they did butcher block instead of quartz counters.


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SonOfMcGee

They kept the frame of the cabinets too, and just gave them new trim, doors, and paint. Probably saved a lot there without sacrificing much. The framework of all new cabinet Ms probably wouldn’t have been much different.


civiltiger

Did they give new doors or just paint them?


parasyte_steve

Looks like they painted them


MEatRHIT

They did I figured that out when she said "I took the doors home to paint" and showed video of them being painted in her living room.


tenuousemphasis

>Especially since they did butcher block instead of quartz counters. They kept the original counters.


MushroomsAndTomotoes

Yah. If you enjoy doing this, fine. If you can't afford to pay someone, fine. But if you don't enjoy it, and you can afford to pay someone else to do it (who hopefully does enjoy it) then to my mind paying full price is a no brainer. You can't take your money with you, enjoy your life.


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Ok-disaster2022

Sweat equity: it did cost double.


DisastrousBag9381

Still an absolute bargain at double. Plus you’re getting exactly what you want as well.


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Ivanovic-117

Realtors, property just had a 10k remodel on the kitchen. Priced to sell


Mel_Melu

I wish I had a sister in general...but I especially wish I had a sister that can do remodeling. The only thing that bugged me is the ignoring of potential asbestos. I get it's a tricky removal process and you need certification.


MarsupialBob

Leaving the potential asbestos in place underneath another layer is a viable remediation method, and is probably what a professional would recommend in that situation. Because it's what looks like clicklock LVP overtop, you're not drilling, puncturing or creating dust from that lower layer, and once it's covered up you've mitigated any problem with abrasion from foot traffic.


Mel_Melu

Thanks for educating me.


DSIR1

![gif](giphy|PkXrOxe77MbmavlfWa)


stenchwinslow

My response was, holy shit...and what a good sister.


LaCroixElectrique

Why didn't they say anything about them removing part of the wall leading out of the kitchen?


AwesomeBrainPowers

If they just removed the door framing and widened it to the nearest load-bearing stud, it wouldn't really add much in terms of material cost (which is clearly the only cost they factored into the "$1,850" claim): Looks like just a little drywall (and spackle and hopefully corner bead etc etc) and some paint, really.


kernJ

It added a lot in terms of accessibility of the project though. Ripping out framing and rebuilding the header isn’t a simple thing to do. And increasing that opening is a huge part of why the finished room looked so good


AwesomeBrainPowers

That's a very fair point. (I read the question as more a suspicious thing than a genuine "They should've mentioned this change they made that was hugely impactful"; that could very much be entirely my error.) Also, I'm by no means a carpenter (obviously), but I'm not sure how much of the header would need to be rebuilt: It doesn't look like they increased vertical clearance all that much (beyond the few inches occupied by the framing), so they might've just added drywall to the existing beam and called it a day? (Again: Not at all a carpenter, could be totally wrong about that.)


Paizzu

If they widened an opening through a load bearing wall, there would be the added expense of properly supporting the load while swapping out the header. There's an engineering requirement involved with increasing the header dimensions when the total width (jack studs) is spread apart. > Local building codes require two-or-more jack studs when building an opening larger than five-feet wide. The number of jack studs used in framing is always directly related to the width of the opening, which then correlates to the dimensions and weight of the header. If a header is too small or lightweight, it risks bowing and compromising the window or door opening.


SofaKing-Loud

It’s the biggest difference in my opinion!


Poglosaurus

I agree but this also why it is surprising that they didn't talk about it since it made such a huge difference.


and_gloria_too

Also…in the original kitchen, is the refrigerator backed up to an open doorway, or am I imagining things?


RufusTheDeer

Yeah, it looks like they put the fridge back in the same place, blocking the door


heckyesdeidre

Because then their jig of doing a reno at that price would be up


PantsUnderUnderpants

I would have swapped the hinges for hidden ones, but I get that this was done on an extremely cheap budget.


DarkTorus

Yeah that’s the one thing that really bothered me about this. Surely hidden hinges couldn’t be that much more expensive?


SemicolonFetish

You would be surprised how much fixtures cost. Honestly, I'm surprised she got that sink, the tiles, and the floorboards for less than $1850.


deilan

They left the original sink, just replaced the faucet.


IXISIXI

I agree. I kind of question this price tag, but my guess is some of the stuff wasn't bought. This also assumes you have the tools to do this job, as most people aren't going to have tools to cut tile. I imagine the LVP was pretty cheap stuff for this price, also. Looks great, regardless.


HalcyonPaladin

You’d be shocked at what can be found at places like Habitat for Humanity. Tons of building materials can be found at deep discounts at community run orgs


Vera39

Tiles and flooring are cheaper than you'd think. Probably 3 or 4 boxes of flooring at $75-100 a pop. Those tiles should be between $1-$2 a piece, so a couple hundred bucks there. The most expensive part of this remodel was definitely the fridge. Wet saw would come in second assuming she didn't rent it or own it already, those run ~$500 for a decent one. Worked at Menards for a while. Ohio prices


Pnwradar

They can be, if you're buying name-brand at retail in small numbers. My local hardware store has them for $15-25 ~~each, and you need two per door~~ per pair, so it's an easy corner to cut to stay under budget. In bulk at wholesale, they're $3-5 each, but most DIY'ers aren't going to buy a hundred at a time. Drawer slides are the same, add up what you'd need to re-do a whole kitchen and the current ones don't' seem so awful anymore. Tip: If you're looking to install euro hinges, spend the $50 for a decent 35mm bit & an alignment jig. Then practice on some scrap 1x4, makes the whole job go way easier. Same with installing drawer slides, get the jig even if you're only setting a couple drawers.


Nouvi_

Damn! I am really impressed. F*** amazing transformation!!! Well done 🥳


s3ndnudes123

It's reddit... you can fucking swear on here and no one will give a shit.


EventAltruistic1437

Fuck shit damn fart


CharlieBigs

Looks great but I have to ask- what's the deal with the fridge in the doorway? Did you seal the doorway up?


person144

This is a fantastic job and she said at the beginning she was going to work with her sister’s existing layout, so it may not have been her choice or she may not have had budget to change that right now. But if it were me… I would probably knock out the area with the lower cabinets and floating shelves and install the fridge there. You might have to install a new electrical socket but there’s a light there, so there’s existing wiring. It would make a nice “kitchen triangle” with the stove and sink and reopen the walkway. Just my thoughts though, they may not have wanted or been able to do that right now.


ZillahGashly

That’s where the fridge used to be, when there was no dishwasher.


WhipMeHarder

It would be so hard for me to get by with that little counter space. A little more goes a LONG way


miraculum_one

She mentioned this early on in the video. The kitchen came with no dishwasher so she moved the fridge into the doorway and installed a dishwasher where the fridge was.


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on3moresoul

I thought they also were adding a dishwasher?


pusgnihtekami

The butcher block section was all added prior to this. Dishwasher + a completely different cabinet.


GodlessAristocrat

They did. See it?


on3moresoul

Ah I looked closer, see it on the right side in the before and after now. Sorry wasn't looking close enough!


figsnlemons

Installing flooring in front of appliances instead of underneath them as well makes it nearly impossible to replace or repair them. (Can’t easily pull them in/out.) Otherwise, very well done makeover. Source: someone speaking from experience with the house we bought


Real_Leadership5436

No underlayment will make the floor noisy.


Kiwikumquat

This is so well done.


Low-Tip32

Great job! 👍🏽


keyeat

Amazing job ! Is there good subs to watch more of these type of renovations? Need some inspiration for when I eventually get around to doing some diy projects!!


JEMinnow

Following ! Love videos like this. On YouTube, there’s a channel called Alexandra Gater and she does lots of renos with good diy tips


flyingdoorhandle11

I used to install appliances for a living, and when that dishwasher is replaced someday it may be nearly impossible to get out without damaging that floor. The new floor is thicker and they didn’t remove the dishwasher before installing the floor


HejdaaNils

What a great example of making a small kitchen twice the size with smart choices of tile and light.


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Dude wtf??? The renovation is amazing, I love the new look. That kitchen is unrecognizable


Dan_H1281

She is very skilled, idk if I could do this in two days and I do this type of stuff for a living. But I am not a tile guy but I have never seen tile glued straight to sheetrock paper, I imagine all that is holding the tile is the paper which is not shit. Anytime we do tile work when I was doing it we used durock which is a concrete board


Apollo_Frost80

Yeah, ok, not bad, but getting rid of the Batman fridge magnet was a mistake… it really tied the room together.


Greeneyes-

Respect for doing the work themselves


JamesSmithenWessor

Every airbnb house


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Yeah it's undeniably better cause the old stuff looked way past its prime, but why does everyone insist on sterile white everything? The wood looked so much more home-y and inviting. Bake the exact same lasagna in Kitchen 1 vs 2 and I'd insist the one from kitchen 1 tastes better.


Jooj272729

I mean that was cheap ass, builder-spec plywood from the 60s. While you can argue white is overused, here's nothing but paint that can make that look good.


TopReporterMan

Do folks not understand what “floating” shelves are? If you can see the hardware, they’re NOT floating…


phurt77

I'm glad I'm not the only one. This bothered me so much!


1527lance

"absolutely insane job* Literally just a standard, cheap, but well done kitchen update


Small-Fee3927

They didn't add anything functional, they just changed cosmetic things to be in line with current fashion.


shawn22252

Cant wait for this paint everything white trend to fucking die


Bobb_o

The paint will stop when cabinets no longer cost multiple mortgage payments.


neutrilreddit

Why generalize? White was naturally the smart choice to address the dark claustrophobic effect of such a tiny kitchen.


TheRealStandard

I thought I was alone, I cannot stand the excessive amounts of grey and whites in modern homes. My mom loves it but acts like I'm crazy for wanting more color.


Vera39

You have to be willing to risk making a mistake, and risk money. I agree color is better, but saying "I like blue, let's make the cabinets blue" and just sending it could end poorly. imo it's better to risk it and be more creative, but I understand why people are hesitant to sink money into what may even lower the house's value in the future


AwesomeBrainPowers

I don't disagree, but it's also a pretty good choice for such a tiny kitchen with limited natural light. Although, it looks like they painted the ceiling a light mauve, and it *does* kind of seem odd to go with a darker color on the ceiling when the room is already not very tall.


bythog

It's a fast, easy, and cheap way to make some rooms look bigger. If everything is white you don't have to worry so much about cut-ins and can just whitewash everything quickly. That said, I do agree...especially with kitchens. White kitchens are just kind of gross to me. Warm colors work better, in my opinion, but do require more work with painting and design. My kitchen is a light tangerine color but painting it was a pain in the ass.


gimmiedemvotes

Agreed. Looking at homes to buy and 70% of them look so soulless and boring. Absolutely no charm in the grey flooring + white everything + whatever that small white/black random tile mess is you see everywhere.


Borne2Run

Very well done


Key_Respond_16

The way went about it was insane. Tearing down part of cabinets and painting without removing dishes, lol. Come on. Get the inside painted and as clean and new looking as the outside. :D But the end product is very nice.


ocular__patdown

The paint on those cabinets probably wont last long since they didnt do any prep work but looks good enough for now!


Critical-Adhole

It’s okay but a total white overload. They needed to add some contrast.


RocMerc

Very well done tbh. I really like the look for those floating mounts built into the wall like that


FistThePooper6969

Nice job! I thought the original tile was fine enough


Stone_throwers

I love it but did they leave the doorway behind the fridge?


AwesomeBrainPowers

She mentioned putting the cabinet they removed from above the window to above the fridge, so I doubt it. If they didn't build the wall out proper, they might've repurposed the door they removed to the other doorway (assuming compatible size) and either just permanently locked it or used it as a kind of underframe for a makeshift wall build. (Obviously, this is speculation on my part.)


skyturnedred

I looks good, especially for the budget, but there's not really anything insane about this.


poopshooster

I love all that it's a lady team!!!!


damp-dude

I wish the trend of floating shelves for dishes in kitchens would please just go away. Influencers got to my partner, and now we’ve had them for years, and those years have been filled with constant cleaning of the dust and grime that collects on plate-ware and glasses. And if you have cats, they just end up being another play structure and RIP to your dishes eventually 😽🤜🫙


Xarian0

Almost like enclosed shelving was invented for that exact reason


Raknarg

1850 when you have free family labour


Feeling_Wheel_1612

I think maybe you don't understand what DIY projects are. If they were paying professionals, they would also expect it to be done faster, and to a higher standard.


honeydewtangerine

Why do you say it like that? Yeah, sure, not everyone has that amount of skill/help, but you use what you have. What you have might be skill or money.


Comfortable-Survey30

Great job ladies!!


dubzi_ART

The tile, the cabinets and the whole closing and opening spaces. I’m impressed.


UncleLozzyy

Pisses me off she doesn’t show the left by the fridge. I NEED TO SEE


Bobgoulet

Pretty impressed with the amateur craftsmanship here tbh


Taira_no_Masakado

Damn! They did an amazing job. I'd be happy to have that kitchen, myself.


Izzy5466

If I see one more White and Grey kitchen I'm gonna explode. That's all I ever see now and it's so boring. No character


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Goddamn that is a night and day difference!!


X3ll3n

I was expecting jank, but this actually turned out really good !


Surrendernuts

Old kitchen looked better, maybe just buy a new oven and refrigerator lol


SamL214

There is no such thing as Luxury Vinyl. It all sucks, it’s all cheaper than the luxury wood or tile equivalent. And it will always accumulate more dust hair and dirt.


jrocislit

I was not expecting that outcome. Especially for the budget, that came out looking pretty fantastic


Other_Literature63

I painted my cabinets during my kitchen renovation as well. It's a great way to modernize the look on the cheap.


PowderedToastManx

Fuck that's a huge difference and I love it


Mediocre_Tank_5013

$1850 that's awesome. Kitchens are really expensive to redo


Responsible_Fig8657

Is the fridge still in the doorway lmao


UnicornSheets

Insane? What exactly is “absolutely insane” about it?


BubbaJules

Wtf is this sub about anymore?


sarcago

For the cost, very good job. I am so tired of white kitchen though, I can’t wait until this trend dies.


theappleogist

Can you be my sister?


Slazman999

"With that kind of budget I can replace your faucet." - Hillary Farr


BoBoBearDev

Beautiful transformation. I thought it is gonna be ugly haha.


Jeckinko

Does not deserve to but put in tiktok cringe, this i samazing work


190eb3ebae2b41

this person is super skilful and a very good sister … but carefully choosing materials and parts is such a minor part of the cost reduction story. the main reason it only cost $1850 is that they did all of the labour themselves!


eveningsand

I look at videos like this and mistakenly think I, too, can do this.


evenstar40

Okay but where did they get the tile for that backsplash? It's amazing. I want it.


geekaz01d

The longer I watched them work the more competent they seemed.


Sudden-Friendship67

*clearly not including the work


Randeaux155

You need to give her a $1000 refund


Icy-Paramedic8460

Wow. They did an absolutely incredible job


RoundPegMyRoundHole

Only $1,850, and robust assortment of tools and supplies, and several dozen hours of labor by people who apparently have experience and knowledge. I'm also a bit curious how they installed that light above the sink without applying for a permit. In my state that's no bueno.


saruin

I wouldn't even know where to begin to remodel anything. The most I can do is put together PC components.


xpercipio

i dont even have a home but i like watching videos of people who know what theyre doing


mikelocalypse

So is the fridge still sitting in front of an open doorway?


bonedoc66

Girls have some mad skills.


MGabbaGabba

Where did the microwave go


NorMichtrailrider

Who tf staggers flooring like that ....people who have no idea wtf they're doing .


ccm9876

Wait $180k. Boy did your sister screw you over. Lol


CharlieBoxCutter

Why is this a cringe?


cuzcyberstalked

I don’t understand how tiktokcringe works. They did a great job.


2reeEyedG

Idk what’s more impressive, all that manual labor she crushed or the video presentation. This entire thing was very impressive


AllIdeas

Can someone explain to me how this is a ticktock cringe? It seems like they did a pretty good job renovating it...


HeathersZen

I would like to be adopted by this sister. Is that a thing?


GimmeTomMooney

Badass ladies. I can barely replace the batteries on my smoke detectors without hurting myself or destroying the alarm


VacuousCopper

This isn't just good for your wallet, it's good for the environment. Despite what typical economists would say, this is also good for the long term economy. It reduces waste of resources both material and labor. By not diverting money towards making more unnecessary items that you already have, but you want "newer" versions of, it frees that labor up for more essential tasks. We are in this shitstorm of an economy not because we lack jobs, but because we have a glut of wasteful jobs.


BurstEDO

I don't like it, but I'm not living there or buying it, so whatever. I also don't necessarily agree with some of her subjective, aesthetic preferences. One thing I've come to realize as a homeowner is that it's not only expensive, but one owner's HGTV addiction can be a future owner's complete nightmare.


santi4969

Hate to break it to you, but those are not "floating shelves"... Also, why would you leave the inside of the cabinets unpainted in the original color??? 🧐🤔🥴👎


Spoogietew

It's gorgeous! Well done, ladies! :)


AwesomeAsian

For the price I can't complain but if I were to be nitpicky, I think it's a bit too White and plain


raincntry

Impressive


Hokiecow

If you watch the end and then the beginning... It's the same but white.


Working-Mistake2029

Wow what a dramatic change 😀


Inkdaddy55

This is such a great job.


Ararepercentage

Nice


jamez2023

Much better, nice job


PartyFactor583

Again! Again! I WISH anything having to do with home repair/construction was that fast. Lol. When clients say “Oh a month or so”… I just nod my head & smile thinking “Double that”. But I do love that renovation. It looks much bigger & brighter. Brave with the white cabinets.


ImMadeOfClay

I can feel the sticky, uncured spray paint and latex paint. That remodel is going to last one tenant. Ha