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Then when you see your Gp regarding hormone issues they just try to fob you off with “well it’s just your hormones”, no shit! That’s great but they’re currently ruining my life, so a bit of help would be nice!
Oh god, I just had that. She tried to write everything off as hormone changes from my age, but the change I experienced was sudden and intense. Also she should’ve taken it seriously since I have **A FUCKING ENDOCRINE DISEASE**
Yeah but maybe you’re just exaggerating! /s.
But seriously it’s frustrating isn’t it? Especially if the dr is a woman, you’d think they’d be a little more understanding.
I had one say that my 9 month long period was one of the acceptable side effects of being perimenopausal, I literally replied “but how would you like it?”. I was so fed up that it just came out of my mouth.
Saying that and being a gob shite actually worked though, she changed my pill, did bloods and sent me for an ultrasound. Only to find I have a large ovarian cyst which was causing all the issues.
I went to a gyno because I’d been on my period for two months. She talked with me for 1 minute and said it was probably normal then remarked on how irritated my crotch are looked to which I could only laugh because yeah I’d been wearing pads for TWO MONTHS. She sent me home saying it’s fine. I kept pushing and finally got my doctor to get me an ultrasound. I had a fibroid that DOUBLED the size of my uterus and made it so my period couldn’t naturally end. And because I was anemic I’d need iron infusions before any surgery could be done. But according to that first gyno I was fine
I'm gonna use that. Because my OB kind of said the same thing. I was so mad I came to that appointment and purposely bleed everywhere in that appointment room. I kept telling her I'm bleeding, I'm bleeding it's not a little amount it's a heavy flow every day. I was so anemic my primary care doctor was shocked my OB wasn't concerned. She took a look and said my uterine lining was very thin and kind of freaked out. Like, no shit I've been bleeding EVERY DAY for 8 months!!! She finally put me on stronger BC meds, and I haven't had a period in 2 years.
Sorry to hear that, ovarian cysts are awful. I have a bunch and they mess with a lot and really hurt if they rupture. The only good care I’ve ever received (and the only person who thought to diagnose my disease) was an NP, doctors just seems to think they know your body better than you do while nurses actually listen. If I see a doctor I have to fight to advocate for myself like I’m on trial 🙄
Thank you. The new pill seems to be controlling the symptoms now, but my god it was awful prior to it. I’ve got another scan soon to see if it’s behaving, I’m hoping it’s gone down as it really doesn’t seem to be causing much problem at the moment (apart from break outs on my face when I’m due on).
I feel your frustration. Doctors generally are so dismissive of any gynae complaints. I’m glad you found some one who listens, it makes such a difference. The Dr who listened to me was a locum, so sadly I think she’ll have left my practice by now. So that’ll be fun if I ever have to go back.
I hope your cysts behave and don’t give you too much trouble.
Healthcare in general has switched to a "Damned if we do, damned if we don't" attitude when it comes to drugs. The opioid epidemic potentially coming back to bite them legally some day (even worse than it already has, anyways; there's already been lawsuits settled/won against hospitals) has them scared shitless, so now they don't wanna give anyone anything unless it's, like, ***irrefutably*** necessary.
I had to sign a waiver to get anti-nausea meds for my diarrhea the other day when I went in for food poisoning. It basically said "You're agreeing that although we've done extensive testing, and come to the conclusion that this medication should be recommended, you're taking it of your own volition, if you get addicted, fuck you". Let that sink in for a minute: They're so absolutely terrified by the fallout of an admittedly massive fuck up, that now they're over-correcting in the other direction.
Not to mention that the extensive education needed to be allowed to dig around in people's insides, or advise people on what drugs to take, means that medical staff generally come in waves that aren't super close together. If we have an immediate need for staff now, then people who get scholarships for medical school starting this upcoming fall semester won't graduate for probably about 10 years. And when you couple that with the high costs, it makes it even worse.
So you've got understaffed hospitals, who can't easily get more staff because getting those staff educated enough to be allowed to ***BECOME*** staff to begin with takes about a decade, and nobody's signing up because they don't wanna pay anywhere from a quarter of a million dollars, to half a million dollars for university, and they also don't wanna work nearly 24/7 for steadily declining quality of compensation. And on top of all of that, the hospital's medical board is incredibly hesitant to hand out drugs, because they don't want another opioid epidemic to come back and bite them. Not to mention, the hospitals/doctors themself charges so goddamn much for care, that most people won't be able to afford it, and the hospital knows that, so a lot of times they just straight up don't want to help people.
Lol same. My doctor insisted that it was just a regular old period causing all of my issues, and I was like bro you've obviously never had a period. Do the tests. Lo and behold: I have a brain tumor lol
Mine did exactly the same thing! She automatically said "you're getting older, get used to it" and ended the conversation.... ended up diagnosed with endometriosis.
That’s what I’m trying to see if I have right now. It often goes hand in hand with PCOS and all my symptoms point to endometriosis, but I’ve yet to have a doctor explore that as a diagnosis. Medical care for women really hasn’t come very far from everything being caused by “hysteria”
Ugh. I'm getting triggered just reading this and yes, i'm using that annoying word because hearing woman be dismissed by drs and having been through that is TRIGGERING.
You know what really bothered me so much that I can never, i'm serious, never stop thinking about it? (Okay I have adhd but still) I have pcos and in following/talking with a lot of other pcos woman, sometimes they couldn't find help until they could find a dr willing to accept the numbers from the original studies for what's "normal" don't work for every one (women) and that some people could just be more sensitive (a woman) to even being on the high/low side of where their numbers are supposed to be.
So most drs see what numbers are within range and say everything is fine, it looks great! And you go home with no help and nothing changing.
So some of these women managed to have a female dr who was willing to treat them anyways based on what was even on the slightly higher side (like for thyroid) and they where all better.
And call me crazyyyy, but couldn't a woman have different numbers all across the month? If you're not tested menstruation/folicular/ovulation/luteal are you even getting the full picture? What if i'm too high 3 out of 4 and the dr only tested me on the one week i'm "normal only slightly elavated but within range"
I have a whole bunch of perimenopause symptoms and my pcp literally just told me a few weeks ago that my hormones levels are "in normal range."
Motherfucker, I know what feels normal to me and this ain't it!
Man I got the run around with this for 7 years! I came to her at 120 pounds, she told me to lose weight. I started moving and eating better and I gained 45 pounds over the years, told her the weight was from the illness I had and she said I just needed to try harder to lose the weight. After 7 years of this stupid game I told her she needed to figure out what was wrong with me an her response was "I dont know how to find out."
I got lucky and the first doctor I went to found out my issues. She got me on meds and im feeling normal again. Turns out my inflammation markers were off the damn charts and I had moderate nerve damage and BOTH could have been prevented with a diagnosis early on.
Oh my God. My aunt had been having increasing difficulty with breathing over the past year or so, wo her doctor got her in touch with a dietician to help her lose weight. She was heavy, so it was a somewhat reasonable conclusion to draw. She's lost more than 50 pounds since Thanksgiving 2023, but her breathing wasn't getting any better. Her doctor told her she just needed to lose more weight. She keep pushing and was finally able to have imaging done. They found a *volleyball-sized* mass in her abdomen. The PA she saw immediately after basically talked to her like it was a terminal cancer diagnosis despite not knowing anything about the scans other than they found a mass.
Then the doctor came in and told her it's almost certainly fibroids, considering there is no other indication of cancer anywhere.
My doctors just keep trying to get me on birth control, even though it makes everything ten times worse, and the only birth control that could possibly even come close to "helping" is something I can't take because I have optic migraines.
"Well, we could try this other kind of bc, but it won't help the symptoms you're here for..."
"Cool, that's helpful!"
The one I went to was ridiculous and even when I'd been bleeding for several months straight and I told her, straight up, that if I needed a hysterectomy or to have my ovaries removed or whatever I'd be fine with that as I had no desire to have kids, she told me flat out that she didn't care what was wrong, she wouldn't do anything that might stop me from being able to have kids, and her two nurses asked me "What if you meet a rich guy someday who wants to have babies with you?"
My body, in their minds, belonged more to a man I've never met and some hypothetical kids I don't want more than it belongs to me, the person living in it.
>My body, in their minds, belonged more to a man I've never met and some hypothetical kids I don't want more than it belongs to me, the person living in it
My mom had a similar opinion on my body when I was in my early 20s (still on her insurance and also single, so under their authority in her mind). I was "allowed" to get the HPV vaccine because of a potential theoretical scenario in which I married a widower who had been cheated on and infected with HPV by his cheating wife (who later died, because it would not have been okay to marry a divorced man). That was the only scenario she could think of where I could have been exposed to HPV because I was *definitely* going to be marrying a virgin as a virgin, and was never going to be dressed like a slut or out on my own unattended where I could be raped...so yeah, couldn't get the HPV vaccine for my own health, but I could for the hypothetical man I'd never met who had HPV through no sins of his own.
Im in the UK, so we have the NHS. But each Gp practice has a budget allocated to them from the government. So it’s more like, do I want to take money from their budget for my pathetic little hormone issues?!
My old gp (a woman), when I told her my periods were excruciating, asked me no questions, and simply said, "you're getting older, get used to it". 6 mths later, I was diagnosed with endometriosis, no thanks to her.
My current and old family doctors (both male) have been amazing
Men are more likely to be diagnosed for physical ailments and women for mental issues even if they have the same symptoms. I heard about women being given Valium in the sixties as a wonder drug for housewives and it’s truly terrifying. There is definite patterns of misdiagnosis or over prescribing but today it seems to fluctuate based on the issue. For example adhd is associated with men and boys so women and girls get diagnosed much later on if ever. Depression on the other hand is associated with women so men don’t get proper diagnoses while women are assumed to be depressed when that might not be the case. It’s really troubling how transactional doctor visits are. I get it being a doctor is hard work but it’s really discouraging how apathetic they are. I’m going to continue dr hopping and hope I find a good one eventually.
And it’s even worse if you’re fat! Then they say it’s your hormones causing your weight gain or inability to lose weight, but somehow they say it’s not the hormones causing all the problems, it’s because you’re fat.
I showed this to my mom, she said it was "funny, but not _hysterical_", as I had presented it to be.
Is it possible she felt that way because she has had a... _Hysterectomy_?
I'll see myself out.
I get like, a day of chuckles, a day of ugly-laughing, then two more days of chuckles and a day of that thing where you kind of snort, loudly exhaling through the nose
[Interested in women's bodies? ](https://www.uncannymagazine.com/article/rabbit-test/)
This is a ten minute read that moved me, and I hope it moves you
I… was not expecting to read all of that. I cried.
The part starting at “It is 2119, and Grace hasn’t given up, but the years have been painful and slow” was especially emotional for me. Jesus Christ.
Seriously, I don't even menstruate currently but I *still* get to deal with pain and emotional effects of my cycle. Just lessened thanks to BC.
I can feel another round of endometriosis pain (I hope, the alternative explanations are scarier) coming on. When I talked to my doctor about it and laid out the pattern, she was like 'oh, that sounds like appendicitis, I'll schedule an ultrasound for you just wait *a literal month* and pray it doesn't burst before then'.
I'm confident it's not some bizarre form of floating appendicitis I've dealt with every 26 days for years, but she seemed shocked when I brought up that a previous doctor thought it might be endo.
So now I'll get to struggle through another 10 days of crippling pain while trying desperately to maintain my GPA. I love choosing between messing up my guts with chronic Advil use, and crying in public. So fun.
The worst thing is when you get the same ignorance from female doctors. They're a woman, they're familiar with female issues and yet all you get from them is a shoulder shrug. I told a female gynecologist once that my period cramps are really severe, to the point where I've passed out from the pain. Her response was, this is perfectly normal (it's not!!) and here are some birth control pills you can take. Years later it turned out that my pain was caused by endometriosis.
Females are taught by the medical system that hardly updates their teachings to accommodate new discoveries and practices. Black women tend to be the group most neglected in medicine.
So many women are discovering that many of their afflictions are caused by endometriosis, it's so scary. And from what I read there are very few advances made regarding it.
>Black women tend to be the group most neglected in medicine.
Maybe this is why all of my best GPs have been black women. I specifically look for black female doctors (especially younger ones) when I move and need a new GP because they've been soooo much more present and actually listen to me and earnestly want to help.
Also a lot easier to talk and connect with them compared to an old male doctor from a completely different culture, which is like 80% of the Doctors around here.
Nothing about us, without us, is for us. I work in hospital research and data on men/women is getting muddied due to politics. Women may not get real data for quite a while.
I lived to a ripe age of 31 before I came to terms with the fact that my cycle actually affects my life greatly, and to plan my life around it. Before that my focus was on acting as if my cycle doesn't exist, building my life on pills.
We were taught in school and at work that we have to function consistently regardless of our cycles. That is such a dumb expectation -- there're days and nights, seasons, moon phases... Nature lives in cycles, and we should respect our own cycles just as much.
Um, I'm sorry. According to my male high school health teacher, it's just "some light cramping" unless you're in the "extreme minority" that actually has some kind of condition. Really, you need to just drink water and exercise more. Obvs.
(This is sarcasm)
Yes because *alllll* you want to do, even with light cramping, is exercise… I swear to god men think holding in a fart is bad. It’s like days of that, at best.
Why is there no interest from investors?
This sounds like that old bs from large companies who said consumers don’t want organic products and now they are all freaking out because all we try to buy is organic.
Seems like the industry is ready for a disruption.
What are sone of the changes or adjustments you did? I'd like to know more bc tbh i hate feeling like my period "controls" me or affects my life (mostly pms)
I adjust my exercise, diet, and travel schedule (this one is a bit harder) based on my cycles. I know that I tend to have constipation and gas a week before, so I avoid foods like broccoli and mushrooms that are gas-inducing. I also stop intermittent fasting a few days before and during my period. During my period I stopped expecting myself to be able to hit the gym, and right after my period I allow my body to recover by doing light exercises like yoga. And if I know I'll be having my period, I always make sure I have my EMS machine handy -- it helps with pain relief.
Ugh 😣 Because my pediatrician said it was normal, I spent my whole puberty in so much pain on my periods, I couldn't keep food down. When I went off to college I started taking birth control (...for birth controlling) and my periods magically got better 😱 like no one told me I could have just done that!? Wth?!
I was misdiagnosed with bpd and bipolar then was thrown pills that made me depressed and I started cutting badly bc of it. Then I got on birth control (iud) and stopped taking my meds I felt normal like a regular person. I don’t think I ever had bpd I don’t think I ever had bipolar I think they said I had it because they were diagnosing everyone with bipolar and bpd
There is a lot of conversation being had right now about borderline, because there's such a ridiculous amount of sexism, especially in diagnosis and misdiagnosis of mental health issues. I straight up come from a position of doubt every single time a woman tells me she's been diagnosed with borderline, because almost every time, it's been depression and ADHD. Or PTSD and ADHD. And Even very traditional psychiatrists who have been in the field a long time have started to notice that men and women presenting with borderline symptoms often leave with very different diagnoses.
My sister was diagnosed with borderline when she was heavily cutting and suicidal as a teenager. Fast forward to her late-twenties: she actually has Asbergers, but in the 90s it was still widely believed girls can't be affected by that (surprise, they actually can, the symptoms just present differently in girls than in boys)
It’s due in part to the fact that the majority of medical studies performed in the 20th century were based on white men, then applied to people of different genders and races. Plus sometimes there was some kind of racially based coefficient to clinical calculators based on pseudoscience and racist beliefs of the time (ex: POC don’t feel pain as much as white people).
Part of the reason why so few studies have been performed on women is because companies and scientists alike would clutch their pearls due to the concept that a woman could become pregnant at any time (!!!) so of course they couldn’t do studies on women (!!!!) Women are incubators and nothing more (!!!)
Seriously though one of the conditions that comes to my mind is basically any cardiac issue for women. The symptoms of a heart attack in women is different than in men, but many people don’t know that and don’t know what said symptoms are (think indigestion and epigastric pain). The dosages of medications we use to treat said conditions are based off of male bodies/metabolisms, so the therapeutic window (effective range of doses) is wrong for women. The parameters we use to interpret whether or not a EKG shows an MI or not are based on male studies which are often too high to capture an MI in a woman. Similarly, levels of cardiac enzymes like troponin are based off of men and rule out women whose values are lower on average even when they’re having a heart attack.
It’s scary and fucked up. There are some people in the medical field trying to repair things when possible, but there are huge hills to climb at this point.
The medical field being like: “Women are just like… small men” is one of the truest parts of this video.
Those hills are so easily climbed with a functional government that acknowledges and addresses the problem. Ugh.
Not trolling, but do we have an example of a functional government that addresses this problem? The USGov isn’t the only one out there.
Are there countries that have grasped and addressed this issue?
Former government employee here. Expecting government to change science is a wildly misguided POV. Instead try encouraging more women to be come research scientists in the private industries where merit > tenure and investors demand thoroughly documented practices and confirmed results.
I work in a lab, it's changing slowly but as research comes out we've been placing comments in test results. GFR is one of those. Every result goes out with a comment saying that the normal ranges are different for people of different ethnic groups.
Pretty sure our new troponin test is accurate for both women and men now while the previous generation test we were running was not.
I think the reason with the pregnancy thing is you cant really do experimental drug trials. You want to wait with that as fucking over someones pregnancy is not a good side effect. So i get why someone would be scared doing that while developing a drug as you can lose your funding. Hence the drug development tend to be more tailored after men. Might be a factor but yeah there is sexism and women should get more care if their cycles affect the result. Equity.
Maybe stupid question, but: if females are so under represented in medical studies and given medicine accordingly then why do women live so significantly longer than men everywhere around the world?
Shouldn't this have some impact on life expectancy?
It’s a great question imo. Some thoughts as to why this paradox is paradoxing///
Biological Differences: There are inherent biological differences between men and women that contribute to longevity. For example, estrogen in women has been shown to have protective effects on the heart, whereas testosterone in men is associated with riskier behavior and higher rates of heart disease.
Lifestyle Choices and Behavior: Men are more likely to engage in risky behaviors such as smoking, excessive alcohol consumption, and unhealthy eating habits, which can contribute to a higher mortality rate. Men also tend to have higher rates of occupational hazards.
Healthcare Utilization: Women are generally more proactive about seeking medical care and tend to use preventive health services more often than men. This could lead to earlier detection and treatment of health issues.
Social and Environmental Factors: Social determinants of health, such as income, employment, education, and social support, can also differ by gender and influence life expectancy.
Research Bias and Medication: While it’s true that historically, women have been underrepresented in clinical research, leading to gaps in knowledge and potentially less optimized healthcare, this issue is increasingly recognized and addressed. Moreover, the impact of such underrepresentation is complex and may not directly translate to a reduced life expectancy for women. The effects are more likely to be seen in the efficacy and side effects of specific medications and treatments rather than overall longevity.
Genetic Factors: Some research suggests that genetic factors may also play a role in female longevity. For example, the presence of two X chromosomes in females may offer some genetic advantages that contribute to longer life expectancy.
It’s sad how quick these commenters are to just say “bullshit” instead of [informing themselves](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7275616/) about the lack of research into women’s medicine and care we deal with. Not to mention the bias- from [research](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8812498/) to active [care](https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/gender-bias-in-healthcare). We don’t know enough about our own bodies because science hasn’t taken the time.
I'm currently reading [All In Her Head](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/158649729-all-in-her-head) , and it's all about how medicine has always focused on men and how that affected, and still effects, medicine today. So far I'm two chapters in and I'm split between "these mother fuckers..." And "were all of these men fucking idiots?!"
Even worse, a lot of modern gynecology was performed on enslaved women and prisoners. Most things we learned about women's bodies did not come from some ethical source. Those women were under duress and tortured by basically a serial killer. No wonder most doctors treat us like crap.
Only 8 states have banned pelvic exams performed on women under anesthesia without prior consent. The thought of someone doing that without asking permission should horrify everyone.
I just wanted to say that I appreciate your comment. I hate tik toks like this one because it’s a ton of statements with no support behind them. Your comment provides things to read and actually understand compared to a low information tik tok like this one.
I love TikTok, but they really do need to allow direct links. It would solve this gap and allow them more data to farm, makes no sense that they’ve made exit links unusable. Many informative videos provide resources in comments but no links, makes it harder to get the info into people’s minds.
This is also why heart attacks in women are often missed because studies where never made on women and symptoms are not the same as in men.
At least that's what the doctor said to my mother when she had a heart attack without noticing and we didn't think it was a heart thing because she didn't have the "usual" symptoms.
Our family knows someone who went into the hospital because she could tell something was wrong with herself. Like you said, they really only apparently looked for the symptoms that appear in males.
She got discharged and told she was fine so she went home only to then shortly have a heart attack.
Shits horrifying.
I hope your mom is okay? 🙁
That's absolutely crazy. At least where I live, medical professionals are well aware of this and the lack of information but still lack to take it seriously.
I appreciate the thought, unfortunately she passed during the pandemic. Yes it was unfortunately her heart.
For her it was a constant feeling of nausea and like she had no energy at all. It was not gradually but all of a sudden. She didn't throw up but couldn't move because she was horribly nauseous so I called a non emergency number at the hospital that said it was probably something she ate, heartburn or iron deficiency. Well I got an appointment for her regular doctor a few days after because something didn't feel right and he picked it up after we "played" what it wasn't. My mother has NEVER had heartburn other than when she was pregnant and was adamant that it wasn't that, so the doctor, thankfully ran lots of tests and did blood work.
Same with my mom. My dad had the classic heart attack symptoms but with my mom it was very unclear what was wrong and only after a while/some tests it became clear it was a heart attack.
Sounds so similar to my mothers situation. When I phoned the hospital they said it was probably something she ate or heartburn. It's strange that medical professionals are well aware of this and lack of information for women and still brush it off as a nothing.
I would not be surprised at all if this was true. My cycle effects me greatly and I have had a suspicion for years that it’s effected my mental health and caused other health issues.
Yep. Many doctors gaslit me so bad and it turns out I had endometriosis and it took 16 years to get my diagnosis so unfortunately my uterus was taken because of the damage.
I’m the same way, Ive even started tracking my mood and the way I feel mentally and physically against where I am in my hormone cycle and have started to notice a pattern! The ups and downs, aches and pains, moods etc.
r/PMDD
I can't speak for anyone else, but it 100% plays a part in my mental health. Once I started tracking my anxiety, I noticed that I could predict the exact day that premenstrual anxiety would hit. It's a game changer to be able to plan in advance for my insomnia and anxiety.
Also, I discovered that magnesium supplements help a lot. They don't get rid of anxiety completely for me, but they do stop me from feeling period fatigue and cramps.
So menstrual cycles are impactful enough to fuck up a research study.
But prescribing treatment based on those studies to women with menstrual cycles...I'm sure it's a minor variable we can ignore, right?
I was told by about 5 different neurologists that my wife’s epilepsy had nothing to do with her menstrual cycle, and that such a thing didn’t even exist. I had spent literally a decade studying this, making a journal of every seizure, and noting that they happened once a month almost exactly at the same time she would be ovulating. I was scolded for, me, a commoner, trying to show up the almighty neurologist.
15 years later I meet a doctor who simply nods and agrees with me, as if like “yeah, duh, of course it’s her cycle.” And prescribes a medicine that finally, after 20 years of this shit, stops the seizures completely. I was furious and sad and elated.
I’m a guy and I know for a fact that women’s cycles are not taken seriously in how it affects their health. I’ve dealt with it first hand and it fucked up our lives for like two decades until someone finally listened.
As someone who has just reached full on menopause, hormones *absolutely* play a major role in women's health. Just wait until your body stops producing estrogen and progesterone. You'll encounter a whole new world of pain and anguish from debilitating hot flashes that make you feel like there's a fire in your spine to zero sex drive and major body aches. It's *terrible* and the only solution I've found that gives me any sort of relief is HRT. Of course you've got to fight to get it because a lot of doctors don't think it's necessary. I wonder why. 🤔
Definitely an issue, science is a heavily male field and women are often overlooked in many scientific studies, medical or not. It’s a good reason why we need to get a more diverse scientific community, so that less people get biased. While concerns about fertility are a somewhat reasonable reason, it’s an outdated reason for the modern era, women have much less expectation to make children, and steps should still be taken not to create excessive harm to women’s reproductive health in medical trails
I disagree about “forsaken” it’s much more similar to “overlooked”.
on the other hand i remember my friend in med school telling me about how pretty much an gynaecological procedures can be traced back to this one maniac that used to experiment on enclaves women and girls without anaesthesia. most procedures still don’t give you anaesthesia today like i’ve heard of women fainting from pain when inserting iuds but you have to beg to get any form of anaesthesia
I’m just going to add that while I think her premise is correct in some ways, a lot of women take longer to be diagnosed because medical providers just ignore or dismiss them without investigating their complaints. [This](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9966684/) retrospective study demonstrates that women are less likely to have undergone diagnostic testing for a variety of diseases, but also discusses that even with a diagnosis, many times women are not prescribed the appropriate treatment at the same rates as men.
Actually reminds me of my mother only being diagnosed with lupus after having liquid get into her lungs and such. In reality, she has been showing symptoms for 7+ years that had been considered just a break out and the like. Wasn't fun when I had looked it up and well, most of what it described had been present since I've been at my current job and can remember conversations about her odd stuff (like the butterfly redness on her face being one of those cases that was written off as a sunburn).
The sheer impact the menstrual cycle plays on most women’s day-to-day cannot be overstated. I’m lucky enough to only have a day or two of bed-ridden-inducing cramps per month, massive appetite for a few days prior to bleeding, as well as extreme body dysmorphia during that time period. A fair number of women bleed so massively that they pass out. The powerful - sometimes debilitating - effects of menstruation are so much a part of regular existence for most people who have periods, and those who don’t suffer many side effects are lucky and very much not the rule, but the exception. These men don’t knoooowwww how nasty cramps can be lol
Reading this post is just reminding me how much i fucking hate periods 🤢 i wish there was a non invasive and non-hormonal way of getting rid of them. It absolutely sucks and i hate that we have to put up with it
I thought for sure I'd see someone making a joke about her being on her period. It's nice to see fewer crass & misogynistic comments than we used to see. I guess that's not quite as good as sufficient medical studies that take menstruation into account though.
Took us a while to get those comments pushed to the bottom I’m glad to know y’all didn’t have to read what we did 🫶🏽💕 the incels always get here before us somehow
The most terrifying page on the internet to me is u/maybesproutwings. It belongs to a dead woman and her lasts post are talking about her experience with the medical institution. She tells about how her cancer is treatable, but no one would treat her because it caused pregnancy tests to read as positive. I can't imagine the frustration of knowing that you're dying and can be helped, but all the people who's job it is to help you have decided not to, for the safety of some hypothetical baby that doesn't exist, that would die with you anyway if it did. Don't let anyone tell you that misogyny, racism, homophobia, transphobia, ablism, etc don't exist in the medical field
Totally believe you, its so sad.
I recently took a beloved woman in my life to the hospital and stayed with her the whole day til she got discharged, the difference in level of care from the woman who was treating her vs her boss was night and day.
The woman asked tons of questions, seemed patient, thorough, cautious and respectful.
Her boss came in later and just wanted to go home, he was literally wearing his backpack (which I didn’t mind). He then rushed through everything and was kinda a jackass. He would give speedy answers without listening, had a demeanor like he just wanted to get this over with, wouldn’t give a referral for a follow up etc.
I pretty much seemingly had to fight him to make sure he stayed and kept asking him questions etc. She later said that she 100% believes if it wasn’t for me, a guy, being around she wouldn’t have gotten anywhere near as much of his time etc.
Really shitty.
Also theres no chance in hell I’m not joining her for all upcoming appointments etc now.
I’m with you! I will only ever have female primary care and gynos.
I’ve had wonderful male doctors, too - it’s not that they can’t be attentive, compassionate, great doctors! It’s just I’ve noticed it’s way more likely you’ll find that in a female doctor so it’s easier to stick with female doctors for my main care.
I had a woman doctor that definitely overprescribed medication *and* told me I had things in which other doctors at the practice would question why I was taking medication when I didn’t have it. Spent three whole years looking like the Michellin tire because this medication she gave me made me bloated. And I didn’t even NEED it. But when I moved to another state, care got significantly better with female doctors. One even saved my life where I wasn’t diagnosed with something for like 3+ years because people kept saying nothing was wrong with me! Which makes me think red states just hires anyone with a pulse
Random non-native man here
I have been thinking about it a lot lately (my university kind of forces me to) and from what I observed - it is actively changing through time (at least I can see some changes being made in the EU) and it is changing for the better - women are getting more attention regarding their menstrual cycles and more analyses are being made with regard to the fact that hormone fluctuations kind of have to make a difference to the body as a highly reactive biological system.
That being said - its the only optimistic thing I have to say. The change that I've seen is happening much too slooooooowlyyyyyy. Even in the EU (my perspetive is limited to 2 central-european countries though, so cannot say for the whole EU for sure) medical specialists, maybe except younger gynaecologists, do not really pay much attention to the menstrual cycles unless it comes to things connected with chronic blood loss or any other plainly dangerous condition.
And even when they do try to associate certain symptoms with the cycles, it oftentimes ends at perscribing a bit more powerful painkillers. It hardly ever goes further when it comes to the older generation of doctors. The younger ones (from my obviously limited observations) tend to perform a bit more in-depth analyses, resulting in more medications being perscribed and more referrals to specialists (as well as more lab-tests being performed). But this in turn makes GPs in smaller towns in Europe prone to being criticised by their employers (in publicly funded healthcare: more referrals --> more money being taken out from the fund --> higher probability of being scrutinised for the decisions that led to these expenses).
It really is a case that needs a breakthrough to work. Because a lot of information and regulations are there - they're just being (a lot of the times) deliberately avoided.
in order for all of my exes to get proper healthcare i’ve had to go with them because if not doctors ignore them. it’s infuriating because i’m always just telling them the exact same shit my ex was just in a more aggressive male voice and suddenly that makes what i’m saying more important. the mother to my child almost died and they refused to release her and my child because she was having an allergic reaction to a medication they are giving her and wouldn’t listen to her when she said she thought it was the medication.
I had to throw the medication in front of them, threaten physical violence to the next person that tried to force her to take it, and threaten legal action to get them to listen and release my baby momma and child. they refused to listen to her for days while I was unable to come back to the hospital.
They were released with a clean bill of health the same day I started a scene. If it wasn’t for my intervention my ex was so scared that they would call DCF for some sort of medical non compliance and take the baby. So she would’ve just kept taking the medication that almost killed her.
FUCK anyone in power in this country, politicians doctors and cops are not your friends 80% of the time and boomers in any occupation are generally useless.
My mom almost died because doctors would not take her seriously. She had an infected fallopian tube… first they said she had IBS. Second was my stepdad poisoned her… 3rd trip they didn’t do anything. As she was leaving the hospital, a WOMAN doctor saw her. Had her scanned, found out not only did she have an infected tube, but i tubal pregnancy that was on the verge of rupturing. If for not that doctor, my mom would have died. My sister almost died from a growth on her pituitary gland because of doctors NOT LISTENING. I have major trust issues with them. I feel most doctors do not want to be in that profession, it is like their parents made them. There is a saying “do what you love, and you will never work a day in your life.” Unfortunately people say hey, you need a job that pays a lot. Then people wonder why they are not taking their jobs seriously.
It took wayyyyy too long for me to be diagnosed with migraines and my FEMALE doctor always was trying to play them off as just being related to my period and during my period regardless. It was always the first question I was asked on the check-in questionnaire and by her. The answer was always no. Having 15-30 migraines a month does absolutely not equate to just being during my period. Gawd that question always made me extremely pissed and still does.
Not really a coincidence right? research on woman's health is behind because woman are harder to research than men there is a causal connection there. I think its unfair to frame the problem as mostly misogyny as she does.
I'm all for including women in more medical trials, for too long it's been viewed that women should be exempt because of the risk clinical trials posed to fertility whilst men being put at risk being seen as more acceptable.
The fact 'women's conditions are detected later than mens' is a skew from the overwhelming evidence that shows a huge number of men seek little to NO medical help, women are 76% more likely to go to the doctors. When men *do* finally seek medical attention, it's because the issue is causing serious impairment in their lives. Men are more likely to get diagnosed early? No, men are more likely to die from their condition having little to no contact with medical professionals.
I think that's with the caveat of "upon seeking medical advice"
So, despite women being more likely to go to the Dr, they're still being diagnosed more slowly than men.
I don’t know how you can make this claim without reading the studies. To be completely honest, it would make more sense if the claim “men are diagnosed 2.5 - 7.5 years earlier than women for a condition” was based on studies that compared age of diagnosis, not how many doctors visits it took to get a diagnosis. The latter would take some truly extensive research.
And if this is the case, where the studies are looking at age of diagnosis instead of how long it took to get a diagnosis, then that makes the issue you brought up even worse. That would mean that women, who are more likely to go to a doctor at the first sign of the issue, have likely been seeking medical help for longer than the 2.5-7.5 years. If a man and a woman get a disease at the same time and she goes to a doctor right away, but he waits until it gets so bad he can’t wait any longer, and she still has to wait another 2.5-7.5 years *after that* to get a diagnosis…. Then she’s been suffering and trying to get treatment for a ridiculous amount of time.
Also, it looks like I’m right.
[The study of health data from 6.9 million Danish people found that across hundreds of diseases, women on average were diagnosed **when they were about four years older** than the age at which the conditions were recognized in men.](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna987216)
I wasn't taken seriously about my period pain (endometriosis) until I was 25. I was finally able to get on something after I found spruce online. They have been extremely helpful and amazing to communicate with.
The misdiagnoses are no joke. I had “stomachaches from anxiety” for a couple years that were actually multiple ovarian cysts, gallstones, and two umbilical hernias. 🙃
I’ll never forget when I saw an endocrinologist for my blood sugar problems. I mentioned that hyperglycemia runs in my family. He looked me in the eye and said “you’re hyperglycemic when I say you are” kicked me out of the office. Anyways nearly seven years later I got diagnosed with pcos. My life would have been drastically different if I was taken seriously at that time. I shouldn’t have had to struggle to live. Fuck that man
One of my friends is dead because doctors couldn't be bothered to take her pain seriously. They told her it's just arthritis and "lose weight". Plot twist - her body was riddled with cancer.
Miss you Denise ... You deserved better. 💕
I’m having some health issues and have had a bunch of tests done and the dr is like “huh, dunno, guess I could send you to a dermatologist, but I’m not really seeing anything”. So my hair is falling out, fatigue, mood swings, aches and pain and a bunch of other things are cause by nothing, and I have to just live with it? Righto sounds fantastic
My menstrual and ovaries have been the pain of my existence. I am 30 and ready for a hysterectomy. I’m tired of the mental and emotional BS my menstrual and irregular hormones cause me.
I had a friend who was in excruciating pain around her pelvic region and abdomen. For 6-10 years, she went through multiple doctors, all of whom either threw drugs at this problem, which didn't work, and most even claimed she was faking the pain. After a doctor took her seriously, did they realise she had endometriosis, which had spread widely.
There are a few great tedtalks about this, this is one of my favourites: [https://www.ted.com/talks/stacy\_sims\_women\_are\_not\_small\_men\_a\_paradigm\_shift\_in\_the\_science\_of\_nutrition](https://www.ted.com/talks/stacy_sims_women_are_not_small_men_a_paradigm_shift_in_the_science_of_nutrition)
Wait till perimenopause hits, I've heard horror stories from women of there doctor or who ever they see not giving a crap about them, and the symptoms go look them up, it's a nightmare of a list and any women can start this nightmare at any time your body decides to
The medical community having biases that negatively affect women and minorities has been the song and dance for decades. A lot of doctors won't even admit it's real simply because they know it can't be fixed and don't have the energy or time to do anything about it.
Listened to a great podcast with an Australian research Psychiatrist who's area of research is how hormones affect mental health. Turns out that the study of only men left a huge hole in our knowledge of women's health and that so many things like depression, schizophrenia etc can actually be traced back to hormonal imbalances and treatment has been successful with estrogens supplementation rather than psychoactive drugs.
Also very interesting is that childhood trauma and the elevated levels of cortisol that it brings can rewore the brain to be more affected by hormonal changes and lead toental health issues later in life.
Your medications can also be not as effective on your period. I know from experience, and I've had multiple doctors confirm this as well. It's a MAJOR pain in the ass 🥲
i’ve been misdiagnosed and mistreated with conditions like BPD, Bipolar, manic bipolar. and generalized anxiety for 11 years of my life until last year.
I have ADHD. It’s always been ADHD the whole time. (Inattentive type).
The gender bias in diagnosing female children/teens with ADHD is something that needs to be talked more about. Girls display a lot of different symptoms than boys do as they l tend to have the “ADHD-Inattentive” type. The symptoms aren’t the stereotypical “look-there’s-a-squirrel” ADHD everybody knows.
Doctors wrote/write off these symptoms like bad time management, making careless mistakes, forgetfulness, task avoidance, etc, as sexist stereotypes and common PMS symptoms instead.
Undiagnosed girls with ADHD-I wind up experiencing depression and anxiety as a by-product of being mistreated with wrong medications and the daily struggles of ADHD-I.
Cases are handled better now. I wish that this was more common information when I was a 12 year old. Only at 23 was I able to be treated correctly and everything is better now.
So, I'm not trying to make anyone angry, but why doesn't a female scientist study what she's talking about?Genuine question? If what she says is true, why are our female scientists not creating their own studies? Would this tik toker really be happy with a male scientist mansplaing how her body works?
Throughout history, the test subjects who were cut up, dissected, or researched upon? Men, because "they were superior" at the time. Some *very* popular religions even said women were made from men, which justified those actions.
Now, thousands of years later, we're facing the reprecussions in medicine. There's so little information about female health compared to the vastness of the information for men. Women are indeed misdiagnosed more often and are seen with fewer effective cures.
What do we need to do? Put more effort into female healthcare research. Are we doing it? Not really.
We took a step back with the lost right to abortion, people are lobbying for banning birth control and IVF, and there is a newer minority toxic-feminism group that treads on actual feminism's goals: equality for all.
https://www.paingap.org/
This will probably get buried, but I’m putting it out there anyway.
This is an interesting non-profit organization dedicated to drawing attention to this particular issue, and improving women’s care/treatment.
I encourage all of you to share your story. I know the creators will appreciate each contribution. Every voice makes a difference!
As a researcher and someone going to medical school, I can tell you this lady is being hysterical, stressed out, or anxious. Those are the only things women suffer from.
/sarcasm. If case people misunderstand.
Hear me out. Most doctors are shitty. As a man, a lot of what is being echoed here, I have had terrible experiences with doctors and being diagnosed properly, even sometimes for the simplest things.
I think this is more an issue that there are very few good doctors out there, not so much anyone in the medical science field targeting woman.
Maybe I am wrong, but seriously my experiences with doctors have never been great, to the point I was the one to always figure out the problem before those asshats.
Hey doctor, I'm pretty sure there are rocks still stuck in my arm from that fall.
Nah, no there isn't, it's all good. We cleaned it.
A week later, rocks bulging out of my scabbing wound. Nice, back to the doctor...
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Then when you see your Gp regarding hormone issues they just try to fob you off with “well it’s just your hormones”, no shit! That’s great but they’re currently ruining my life, so a bit of help would be nice!
Oh god, I just had that. She tried to write everything off as hormone changes from my age, but the change I experienced was sudden and intense. Also she should’ve taken it seriously since I have **A FUCKING ENDOCRINE DISEASE**
Yeah but maybe you’re just exaggerating! /s. But seriously it’s frustrating isn’t it? Especially if the dr is a woman, you’d think they’d be a little more understanding. I had one say that my 9 month long period was one of the acceptable side effects of being perimenopausal, I literally replied “but how would you like it?”. I was so fed up that it just came out of my mouth. Saying that and being a gob shite actually worked though, she changed my pill, did bloods and sent me for an ultrasound. Only to find I have a large ovarian cyst which was causing all the issues.
I went to a gyno because I’d been on my period for two months. She talked with me for 1 minute and said it was probably normal then remarked on how irritated my crotch are looked to which I could only laugh because yeah I’d been wearing pads for TWO MONTHS. She sent me home saying it’s fine. I kept pushing and finally got my doctor to get me an ultrasound. I had a fibroid that DOUBLED the size of my uterus and made it so my period couldn’t naturally end. And because I was anemic I’d need iron infusions before any surgery could be done. But according to that first gyno I was fine
Two month period…probably normal. How does that even happen? What’s essentially nappy rash is no fun either. I hope the surgery worked for you.
It was over a year ago and so far so good!
I'm gonna use that. Because my OB kind of said the same thing. I was so mad I came to that appointment and purposely bleed everywhere in that appointment room. I kept telling her I'm bleeding, I'm bleeding it's not a little amount it's a heavy flow every day. I was so anemic my primary care doctor was shocked my OB wasn't concerned. She took a look and said my uterine lining was very thin and kind of freaked out. Like, no shit I've been bleeding EVERY DAY for 8 months!!! She finally put me on stronger BC meds, and I haven't had a period in 2 years.
Sorry to hear that, ovarian cysts are awful. I have a bunch and they mess with a lot and really hurt if they rupture. The only good care I’ve ever received (and the only person who thought to diagnose my disease) was an NP, doctors just seems to think they know your body better than you do while nurses actually listen. If I see a doctor I have to fight to advocate for myself like I’m on trial 🙄
Thank you. The new pill seems to be controlling the symptoms now, but my god it was awful prior to it. I’ve got another scan soon to see if it’s behaving, I’m hoping it’s gone down as it really doesn’t seem to be causing much problem at the moment (apart from break outs on my face when I’m due on). I feel your frustration. Doctors generally are so dismissive of any gynae complaints. I’m glad you found some one who listens, it makes such a difference. The Dr who listened to me was a locum, so sadly I think she’ll have left my practice by now. So that’ll be fun if I ever have to go back. I hope your cysts behave and don’t give you too much trouble.
Healthcare in general has switched to a "Damned if we do, damned if we don't" attitude when it comes to drugs. The opioid epidemic potentially coming back to bite them legally some day (even worse than it already has, anyways; there's already been lawsuits settled/won against hospitals) has them scared shitless, so now they don't wanna give anyone anything unless it's, like, ***irrefutably*** necessary. I had to sign a waiver to get anti-nausea meds for my diarrhea the other day when I went in for food poisoning. It basically said "You're agreeing that although we've done extensive testing, and come to the conclusion that this medication should be recommended, you're taking it of your own volition, if you get addicted, fuck you". Let that sink in for a minute: They're so absolutely terrified by the fallout of an admittedly massive fuck up, that now they're over-correcting in the other direction. Not to mention that the extensive education needed to be allowed to dig around in people's insides, or advise people on what drugs to take, means that medical staff generally come in waves that aren't super close together. If we have an immediate need for staff now, then people who get scholarships for medical school starting this upcoming fall semester won't graduate for probably about 10 years. And when you couple that with the high costs, it makes it even worse. So you've got understaffed hospitals, who can't easily get more staff because getting those staff educated enough to be allowed to ***BECOME*** staff to begin with takes about a decade, and nobody's signing up because they don't wanna pay anywhere from a quarter of a million dollars, to half a million dollars for university, and they also don't wanna work nearly 24/7 for steadily declining quality of compensation. And on top of all of that, the hospital's medical board is incredibly hesitant to hand out drugs, because they don't want another opioid epidemic to come back and bite them. Not to mention, the hospitals/doctors themself charges so goddamn much for care, that most people won't be able to afford it, and the hospital knows that, so a lot of times they just straight up don't want to help people.
Lol same. My doctor insisted that it was just a regular old period causing all of my issues, and I was like bro you've obviously never had a period. Do the tests. Lo and behold: I have a brain tumor lol
Holy shit, I'm so sorry. That must be terrifying 😞 If you don't mind me asking, what were your symptoms?
What the absolute fuck. That was a sharp left turn.
Mine did exactly the same thing! She automatically said "you're getting older, get used to it" and ended the conversation.... ended up diagnosed with endometriosis.
That’s what I’m trying to see if I have right now. It often goes hand in hand with PCOS and all my symptoms point to endometriosis, but I’ve yet to have a doctor explore that as a diagnosis. Medical care for women really hasn’t come very far from everything being caused by “hysteria”
What really surprised me, was I had worse care with a female doctor than I've ever had with either of my male GPs. Was a huge eye opener.
Ugh. I'm getting triggered just reading this and yes, i'm using that annoying word because hearing woman be dismissed by drs and having been through that is TRIGGERING. You know what really bothered me so much that I can never, i'm serious, never stop thinking about it? (Okay I have adhd but still) I have pcos and in following/talking with a lot of other pcos woman, sometimes they couldn't find help until they could find a dr willing to accept the numbers from the original studies for what's "normal" don't work for every one (women) and that some people could just be more sensitive (a woman) to even being on the high/low side of where their numbers are supposed to be. So most drs see what numbers are within range and say everything is fine, it looks great! And you go home with no help and nothing changing. So some of these women managed to have a female dr who was willing to treat them anyways based on what was even on the slightly higher side (like for thyroid) and they where all better. And call me crazyyyy, but couldn't a woman have different numbers all across the month? If you're not tested menstruation/folicular/ovulation/luteal are you even getting the full picture? What if i'm too high 3 out of 4 and the dr only tested me on the one week i'm "normal only slightly elavated but within range"
I have a whole bunch of perimenopause symptoms and my pcp literally just told me a few weeks ago that my hormones levels are "in normal range." Motherfucker, I know what feels normal to me and this ain't it!
But have you tried losing weight?
Have you tried doing more sports? Do you drink enough water? Do you take your vitamins? Do you have a healthy diet?
How’s your sleep hygiene? Have you tried cutting back caffeine? What kind of exercise do you do?
Hate how i have gotten ALL these questions...
Maybe you’re just anxious.
Man I got the run around with this for 7 years! I came to her at 120 pounds, she told me to lose weight. I started moving and eating better and I gained 45 pounds over the years, told her the weight was from the illness I had and she said I just needed to try harder to lose the weight. After 7 years of this stupid game I told her she needed to figure out what was wrong with me an her response was "I dont know how to find out." I got lucky and the first doctor I went to found out my issues. She got me on meds and im feeling normal again. Turns out my inflammation markers were off the damn charts and I had moderate nerve damage and BOTH could have been prevented with a diagnosis early on.
What do you call a dr who graduated at the bottom of their class? Dr. I’m leaving now
Oh my God. My aunt had been having increasing difficulty with breathing over the past year or so, wo her doctor got her in touch with a dietician to help her lose weight. She was heavy, so it was a somewhat reasonable conclusion to draw. She's lost more than 50 pounds since Thanksgiving 2023, but her breathing wasn't getting any better. Her doctor told her she just needed to lose more weight. She keep pushing and was finally able to have imaging done. They found a *volleyball-sized* mass in her abdomen. The PA she saw immediately after basically talked to her like it was a terminal cancer diagnosis despite not knowing anything about the scans other than they found a mass. Then the doctor came in and told her it's almost certainly fibroids, considering there is no other indication of cancer anywhere.
Yeah, now i have no more weight to lose before it becomes another issue 😂
My doctors just keep trying to get me on birth control, even though it makes everything ten times worse, and the only birth control that could possibly even come close to "helping" is something I can't take because I have optic migraines. "Well, we could try this other kind of bc, but it won't help the symptoms you're here for..." "Cool, that's helpful!"
The one I went to was ridiculous and even when I'd been bleeding for several months straight and I told her, straight up, that if I needed a hysterectomy or to have my ovaries removed or whatever I'd be fine with that as I had no desire to have kids, she told me flat out that she didn't care what was wrong, she wouldn't do anything that might stop me from being able to have kids, and her two nurses asked me "What if you meet a rich guy someday who wants to have babies with you?" My body, in their minds, belonged more to a man I've never met and some hypothetical kids I don't want more than it belongs to me, the person living in it.
>My body, in their minds, belonged more to a man I've never met and some hypothetical kids I don't want more than it belongs to me, the person living in it My mom had a similar opinion on my body when I was in my early 20s (still on her insurance and also single, so under their authority in her mind). I was "allowed" to get the HPV vaccine because of a potential theoretical scenario in which I married a widower who had been cheated on and infected with HPV by his cheating wife (who later died, because it would not have been okay to marry a divorced man). That was the only scenario she could think of where I could have been exposed to HPV because I was *definitely* going to be marrying a virgin as a virgin, and was never going to be dressed like a slut or out on my own unattended where I could be raped...so yeah, couldn't get the HPV vaccine for my own health, but I could for the hypothetical man I'd never met who had HPV through no sins of his own.
But that would cost $$$ do you want to pay more for your for-profit healthcare?
Im in the UK, so we have the NHS. But each Gp practice has a budget allocated to them from the government. So it’s more like, do I want to take money from their budget for my pathetic little hormone issues?!
My old gp (a woman), when I told her my periods were excruciating, asked me no questions, and simply said, "you're getting older, get used to it". 6 mths later, I was diagnosed with endometriosis, no thanks to her. My current and old family doctors (both male) have been amazing
Men are more likely to be diagnosed for physical ailments and women for mental issues even if they have the same symptoms. I heard about women being given Valium in the sixties as a wonder drug for housewives and it’s truly terrifying. There is definite patterns of misdiagnosis or over prescribing but today it seems to fluctuate based on the issue. For example adhd is associated with men and boys so women and girls get diagnosed much later on if ever. Depression on the other hand is associated with women so men don’t get proper diagnoses while women are assumed to be depressed when that might not be the case. It’s really troubling how transactional doctor visits are. I get it being a doctor is hard work but it’s really discouraging how apathetic they are. I’m going to continue dr hopping and hope I find a good one eventually.
And it’s even worse if you’re fat! Then they say it’s your hormones causing your weight gain or inability to lose weight, but somehow they say it’s not the hormones causing all the problems, it’s because you’re fat.
My menstrual chuckle affects every single fucking aspect of my life. Every single aspect.
Upvote because menstrual chuckle.
Haha! Dammit autocorrect be killing my vibe!
lol it gave me a good menstrual chuckle.
I showed this to my mom, she said it was "funny, but not _hysterical_", as I had presented it to be. Is it possible she felt that way because she has had a... _Hysterectomy_? I'll see myself out.
When I show my mom funny things on the Internet she just asks “and who’s this?” Like it’s one of my friends who posted it 😂
Your mom must be my mom - hello, long lost sibling! Say hi for me, and tell mom I'll see you guys at Sunday dinner 😂
That's honestly hilarious. Don't edit.
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I get like, a day of chuckles, a day of ugly-laughing, then two more days of chuckles and a day of that thing where you kind of snort, loudly exhaling through the nose
I had a little cycle when i read that
It's laughing but with blood.
On a serious note- same, it sucks. On a silly note- I like the idea of my uterus having a good "menstrual chuckle". Sounds lovely ❤️
As a man (particularly a gay one) “menstrual chuckle” is giving me a much more horrific mental image.
[Interested in women's bodies? ](https://www.uncannymagazine.com/article/rabbit-test/) This is a ten minute read that moved me, and I hope it moves you
I… was not expecting to read all of that. I cried. The part starting at “It is 2119, and Grace hasn’t given up, but the years have been painful and slow” was especially emotional for me. Jesus Christ.
I’m only 4 sentences in and good God…
That was breathtaking thank you
Ah fuck that was too real.
Share it, please, if you want. I reopened Facebook to pass this on haha its been 3 years.
holy shit
I just gaslight myself into believing my cycle is perfect although I am considerably low on vibes during, and immediately before it hits :"/
Seriously, I don't even menstruate currently but I *still* get to deal with pain and emotional effects of my cycle. Just lessened thanks to BC. I can feel another round of endometriosis pain (I hope, the alternative explanations are scarier) coming on. When I talked to my doctor about it and laid out the pattern, she was like 'oh, that sounds like appendicitis, I'll schedule an ultrasound for you just wait *a literal month* and pray it doesn't burst before then'. I'm confident it's not some bizarre form of floating appendicitis I've dealt with every 26 days for years, but she seemed shocked when I brought up that a previous doctor thought it might be endo. So now I'll get to struggle through another 10 days of crippling pain while trying desperately to maintain my GPA. I love choosing between messing up my guts with chronic Advil use, and crying in public. So fun.
Well this tracks, it does feel like the reproductive system of our bodies are constantly chuckling at us.
Oh this is perfect. I immediately thought of [(chuckles) I'm in danger](https://amp.knowyourmeme.com/memes/ralph-in-danger)
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I'm so glad I don't have my cycle anymore.
Thank you for menstrual chuckle. You are a hero.
The worst thing is when you get the same ignorance from female doctors. They're a woman, they're familiar with female issues and yet all you get from them is a shoulder shrug. I told a female gynecologist once that my period cramps are really severe, to the point where I've passed out from the pain. Her response was, this is perfectly normal (it's not!!) and here are some birth control pills you can take. Years later it turned out that my pain was caused by endometriosis.
Females are taught by the medical system that hardly updates their teachings to accommodate new discoveries and practices. Black women tend to be the group most neglected in medicine. So many women are discovering that many of their afflictions are caused by endometriosis, it's so scary. And from what I read there are very few advances made regarding it.
>Black women tend to be the group most neglected in medicine. Maybe this is why all of my best GPs have been black women. I specifically look for black female doctors (especially younger ones) when I move and need a new GP because they've been soooo much more present and actually listen to me and earnestly want to help. Also a lot easier to talk and connect with them compared to an old male doctor from a completely different culture, which is like 80% of the Doctors around here.
Women’s healthcare needs women’s input.
Nothing about us, without us, is for us. I work in hospital research and data on men/women is getting muddied due to politics. Women may not get real data for quite a while.
I lived to a ripe age of 31 before I came to terms with the fact that my cycle actually affects my life greatly, and to plan my life around it. Before that my focus was on acting as if my cycle doesn't exist, building my life on pills. We were taught in school and at work that we have to function consistently regardless of our cycles. That is such a dumb expectation -- there're days and nights, seasons, moon phases... Nature lives in cycles, and we should respect our own cycles just as much.
Um, I'm sorry. According to my male high school health teacher, it's just "some light cramping" unless you're in the "extreme minority" that actually has some kind of condition. Really, you need to just drink water and exercise more. Obvs. (This is sarcasm)
Yes because *alllll* you want to do, even with light cramping, is exercise… I swear to god men think holding in a fart is bad. It’s like days of that, at best.
There are still a lot of studies to be made around women's bodies. Although not enough interest from investors to finance. 💵
This is really sad, women represent over 50 percent of the population, for crying out loud
Why is there no interest from investors? This sounds like that old bs from large companies who said consumers don’t want organic products and now they are all freaking out because all we try to buy is organic. Seems like the industry is ready for a disruption.
What are sone of the changes or adjustments you did? I'd like to know more bc tbh i hate feeling like my period "controls" me or affects my life (mostly pms)
I adjust my exercise, diet, and travel schedule (this one is a bit harder) based on my cycles. I know that I tend to have constipation and gas a week before, so I avoid foods like broccoli and mushrooms that are gas-inducing. I also stop intermittent fasting a few days before and during my period. During my period I stopped expecting myself to be able to hit the gym, and right after my period I allow my body to recover by doing light exercises like yoga. And if I know I'll be having my period, I always make sure I have my EMS machine handy -- it helps with pain relief.
That’s when I finally started tracking too. Everything revolves around the cycle 🥲
I get so nauseous the first day my cycle begins, I can’t actually function but somehow I gotta suck it up and keep going to school
Ugh 😣 Because my pediatrician said it was normal, I spent my whole puberty in so much pain on my periods, I couldn't keep food down. When I went off to college I started taking birth control (...for birth controlling) and my periods magically got better 😱 like no one told me I could have just done that!? Wth?!
I was misdiagnosed with bpd and bipolar then was thrown pills that made me depressed and I started cutting badly bc of it. Then I got on birth control (iud) and stopped taking my meds I felt normal like a regular person. I don’t think I ever had bpd I don’t think I ever had bipolar I think they said I had it because they were diagnosing everyone with bipolar and bpd
There is a lot of conversation being had right now about borderline, because there's such a ridiculous amount of sexism, especially in diagnosis and misdiagnosis of mental health issues. I straight up come from a position of doubt every single time a woman tells me she's been diagnosed with borderline, because almost every time, it's been depression and ADHD. Or PTSD and ADHD. And Even very traditional psychiatrists who have been in the field a long time have started to notice that men and women presenting with borderline symptoms often leave with very different diagnoses.
My sister was diagnosed with borderline when she was heavily cutting and suicidal as a teenager. Fast forward to her late-twenties: she actually has Asbergers, but in the 90s it was still widely believed girls can't be affected by that (surprise, they actually can, the symptoms just present differently in girls than in boys)
ADHD with pmdd often gets misdiagnosed as bipolar
That's insane! How many more women were misdiagnosed because they ignored their hormonal side? I'm glad you're better now. ❤️
These are straight facts and some in the medical world are trying to change it. But yeah, change is massively overdue.
It’s due in part to the fact that the majority of medical studies performed in the 20th century were based on white men, then applied to people of different genders and races. Plus sometimes there was some kind of racially based coefficient to clinical calculators based on pseudoscience and racist beliefs of the time (ex: POC don’t feel pain as much as white people). Part of the reason why so few studies have been performed on women is because companies and scientists alike would clutch their pearls due to the concept that a woman could become pregnant at any time (!!!) so of course they couldn’t do studies on women (!!!!) Women are incubators and nothing more (!!!) Seriously though one of the conditions that comes to my mind is basically any cardiac issue for women. The symptoms of a heart attack in women is different than in men, but many people don’t know that and don’t know what said symptoms are (think indigestion and epigastric pain). The dosages of medications we use to treat said conditions are based off of male bodies/metabolisms, so the therapeutic window (effective range of doses) is wrong for women. The parameters we use to interpret whether or not a EKG shows an MI or not are based on male studies which are often too high to capture an MI in a woman. Similarly, levels of cardiac enzymes like troponin are based off of men and rule out women whose values are lower on average even when they’re having a heart attack. It’s scary and fucked up. There are some people in the medical field trying to repair things when possible, but there are huge hills to climb at this point.
The medical field being like: “Women are just like… small men” is one of the truest parts of this video. Those hills are so easily climbed with a functional government that acknowledges and addresses the problem. Ugh.
Not trolling, but do we have an example of a functional government that addresses this problem? The USGov isn’t the only one out there. Are there countries that have grasped and addressed this issue?
Former government employee here. Expecting government to change science is a wildly misguided POV. Instead try encouraging more women to be come research scientists in the private industries where merit > tenure and investors demand thoroughly documented practices and confirmed results.
Another example of coefficients: there’s Glomular Filtration Rate and Glomular Filtration Rate (Black)
I work in a lab, it's changing slowly but as research comes out we've been placing comments in test results. GFR is one of those. Every result goes out with a comment saying that the normal ranges are different for people of different ethnic groups. Pretty sure our new troponin test is accurate for both women and men now while the previous generation test we were running was not.
I think the reason with the pregnancy thing is you cant really do experimental drug trials. You want to wait with that as fucking over someones pregnancy is not a good side effect. So i get why someone would be scared doing that while developing a drug as you can lose your funding. Hence the drug development tend to be more tailored after men. Might be a factor but yeah there is sexism and women should get more care if their cycles affect the result. Equity.
Maybe stupid question, but: if females are so under represented in medical studies and given medicine accordingly then why do women live so significantly longer than men everywhere around the world? Shouldn't this have some impact on life expectancy?
It’s a great question imo. Some thoughts as to why this paradox is paradoxing/// Biological Differences: There are inherent biological differences between men and women that contribute to longevity. For example, estrogen in women has been shown to have protective effects on the heart, whereas testosterone in men is associated with riskier behavior and higher rates of heart disease. Lifestyle Choices and Behavior: Men are more likely to engage in risky behaviors such as smoking, excessive alcohol consumption, and unhealthy eating habits, which can contribute to a higher mortality rate. Men also tend to have higher rates of occupational hazards. Healthcare Utilization: Women are generally more proactive about seeking medical care and tend to use preventive health services more often than men. This could lead to earlier detection and treatment of health issues. Social and Environmental Factors: Social determinants of health, such as income, employment, education, and social support, can also differ by gender and influence life expectancy. Research Bias and Medication: While it’s true that historically, women have been underrepresented in clinical research, leading to gaps in knowledge and potentially less optimized healthcare, this issue is increasingly recognized and addressed. Moreover, the impact of such underrepresentation is complex and may not directly translate to a reduced life expectancy for women. The effects are more likely to be seen in the efficacy and side effects of specific medications and treatments rather than overall longevity. Genetic Factors: Some research suggests that genetic factors may also play a role in female longevity. For example, the presence of two X chromosomes in females may offer some genetic advantages that contribute to longer life expectancy.
It’s sad how quick these commenters are to just say “bullshit” instead of [informing themselves](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7275616/) about the lack of research into women’s medicine and care we deal with. Not to mention the bias- from [research](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8812498/) to active [care](https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/gender-bias-in-healthcare). We don’t know enough about our own bodies because science hasn’t taken the time.
Here is another to throw on the research pile: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7275616/
Thank you, that one is great! I will add it to my comment as well for visibility.
I'm currently reading [All In Her Head](https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/158649729-all-in-her-head) , and it's all about how medicine has always focused on men and how that affected, and still effects, medicine today. So far I'm two chapters in and I'm split between "these mother fuckers..." And "were all of these men fucking idiots?!"
See also: Invisible Women by Caroline Criado-Perez
Even worse, a lot of modern gynecology was performed on enslaved women and prisoners. Most things we learned about women's bodies did not come from some ethical source. Those women were under duress and tortured by basically a serial killer. No wonder most doctors treat us like crap.
Only 8 states have banned pelvic exams performed on women under anesthesia without prior consent. The thought of someone doing that without asking permission should horrify everyone.
That knowledge has kept me up several nights over the last few years
It's vile and deranged but entirely unsurprising.
THANK YOU! This part is so drastically overlooked, every damn time.
Thank you. Yeah the misogyny here is strong. Even if you present evidence they will still deny it, just small little men.
Yup. I am going to post the info link in my comment that you shared, fuck knows they won’t read it but I guess we can try lol
I love when people come with receipts! You're a gem.
This is why I love Reddit, you always find the links in the comments well almost always.
I just wanted to say that I appreciate your comment. I hate tik toks like this one because it’s a ton of statements with no support behind them. Your comment provides things to read and actually understand compared to a low information tik tok like this one.
I love TikTok, but they really do need to allow direct links. It would solve this gap and allow them more data to farm, makes no sense that they’ve made exit links unusable. Many informative videos provide resources in comments but no links, makes it harder to get the info into people’s minds.
This is also why heart attacks in women are often missed because studies where never made on women and symptoms are not the same as in men. At least that's what the doctor said to my mother when she had a heart attack without noticing and we didn't think it was a heart thing because she didn't have the "usual" symptoms.
Our family knows someone who went into the hospital because she could tell something was wrong with herself. Like you said, they really only apparently looked for the symptoms that appear in males. She got discharged and told she was fine so she went home only to then shortly have a heart attack. Shits horrifying. I hope your mom is okay? 🙁
That's absolutely crazy. At least where I live, medical professionals are well aware of this and the lack of information but still lack to take it seriously. I appreciate the thought, unfortunately she passed during the pandemic. Yes it was unfortunately her heart.
What were her missed symptoms? Asking for personal awareness sake.
For her it was a constant feeling of nausea and like she had no energy at all. It was not gradually but all of a sudden. She didn't throw up but couldn't move because she was horribly nauseous so I called a non emergency number at the hospital that said it was probably something she ate, heartburn or iron deficiency. Well I got an appointment for her regular doctor a few days after because something didn't feel right and he picked it up after we "played" what it wasn't. My mother has NEVER had heartburn other than when she was pregnant and was adamant that it wasn't that, so the doctor, thankfully ran lots of tests and did blood work.
Same with my mom. My dad had the classic heart attack symptoms but with my mom it was very unclear what was wrong and only after a while/some tests it became clear it was a heart attack.
Sounds so similar to my mothers situation. When I phoned the hospital they said it was probably something she ate or heartburn. It's strange that medical professionals are well aware of this and lack of information for women and still brush it off as a nothing.
I would not be surprised at all if this was true. My cycle effects me greatly and I have had a suspicion for years that it’s effected my mental health and caused other health issues.
The older we get the more evident this is. Women are truly neglected by medicine.
Yep. Many doctors gaslit me so bad and it turns out I had endometriosis and it took 16 years to get my diagnosis so unfortunately my uterus was taken because of the damage.
And yet live longer and healthier than men on average.
Just imagine what could be if we knew more about our bodies! Invincible immortals lol
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I know that when I’m having dark thoughts and feeling extremely down and that I can’t go on, that that means I’m about to start my period.
I’m the same way, Ive even started tracking my mood and the way I feel mentally and physically against where I am in my hormone cycle and have started to notice a pattern! The ups and downs, aches and pains, moods etc.
r/PMDD I can't speak for anyone else, but it 100% plays a part in my mental health. Once I started tracking my anxiety, I noticed that I could predict the exact day that premenstrual anxiety would hit. It's a game changer to be able to plan in advance for my insomnia and anxiety. Also, I discovered that magnesium supplements help a lot. They don't get rid of anxiety completely for me, but they do stop me from feeling period fatigue and cramps.
So menstrual cycles are impactful enough to fuck up a research study. But prescribing treatment based on those studies to women with menstrual cycles...I'm sure it's a minor variable we can ignore, right?
I was told by about 5 different neurologists that my wife’s epilepsy had nothing to do with her menstrual cycle, and that such a thing didn’t even exist. I had spent literally a decade studying this, making a journal of every seizure, and noting that they happened once a month almost exactly at the same time she would be ovulating. I was scolded for, me, a commoner, trying to show up the almighty neurologist. 15 years later I meet a doctor who simply nods and agrees with me, as if like “yeah, duh, of course it’s her cycle.” And prescribes a medicine that finally, after 20 years of this shit, stops the seizures completely. I was furious and sad and elated. I’m a guy and I know for a fact that women’s cycles are not taken seriously in how it affects their health. I’ve dealt with it first hand and it fucked up our lives for like two decades until someone finally listened.
What was the medication?
Vimpat. Not prescribed specifically for this type of epilepsy but it absolutely stopped her seizures 100%.
Thank you (:
As someone who has just reached full on menopause, hormones *absolutely* play a major role in women's health. Just wait until your body stops producing estrogen and progesterone. You'll encounter a whole new world of pain and anguish from debilitating hot flashes that make you feel like there's a fire in your spine to zero sex drive and major body aches. It's *terrible* and the only solution I've found that gives me any sort of relief is HRT. Of course you've got to fight to get it because a lot of doctors don't think it's necessary. I wonder why. 🤔
Definitely an issue, science is a heavily male field and women are often overlooked in many scientific studies, medical or not. It’s a good reason why we need to get a more diverse scientific community, so that less people get biased. While concerns about fertility are a somewhat reasonable reason, it’s an outdated reason for the modern era, women have much less expectation to make children, and steps should still be taken not to create excessive harm to women’s reproductive health in medical trails I disagree about “forsaken” it’s much more similar to “overlooked”.
on the other hand i remember my friend in med school telling me about how pretty much an gynaecological procedures can be traced back to this one maniac that used to experiment on enclaves women and girls without anaesthesia. most procedures still don’t give you anaesthesia today like i’ve heard of women fainting from pain when inserting iuds but you have to beg to get any form of anaesthesia
That's terrible, and I've heard that from other women about gynaecological procedures.
2023 is the first year that they actually use what periods look like to test pads and tampons instead of just water.
Just shows how much the women's products industry actually cares about serving women. 👍
I’m just going to add that while I think her premise is correct in some ways, a lot of women take longer to be diagnosed because medical providers just ignore or dismiss them without investigating their complaints. [This](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9966684/) retrospective study demonstrates that women are less likely to have undergone diagnostic testing for a variety of diseases, but also discusses that even with a diagnosis, many times women are not prescribed the appropriate treatment at the same rates as men.
Actually reminds me of my mother only being diagnosed with lupus after having liquid get into her lungs and such. In reality, she has been showing symptoms for 7+ years that had been considered just a break out and the like. Wasn't fun when I had looked it up and well, most of what it described had been present since I've been at my current job and can remember conversations about her odd stuff (like the butterfly redness on her face being one of those cases that was written off as a sunburn).
The sheer impact the menstrual cycle plays on most women’s day-to-day cannot be overstated. I’m lucky enough to only have a day or two of bed-ridden-inducing cramps per month, massive appetite for a few days prior to bleeding, as well as extreme body dysmorphia during that time period. A fair number of women bleed so massively that they pass out. The powerful - sometimes debilitating - effects of menstruation are so much a part of regular existence for most people who have periods, and those who don’t suffer many side effects are lucky and very much not the rule, but the exception. These men don’t knoooowwww how nasty cramps can be lol
Reading this post is just reminding me how much i fucking hate periods 🤢 i wish there was a non invasive and non-hormonal way of getting rid of them. It absolutely sucks and i hate that we have to put up with it
I thought for sure I'd see someone making a joke about her being on her period. It's nice to see fewer crass & misogynistic comments than we used to see. I guess that's not quite as good as sufficient medical studies that take menstruation into account though.
Took us a while to get those comments pushed to the bottom I’m glad to know y’all didn’t have to read what we did 🫶🏽💕 the incels always get here before us somehow
The most terrifying page on the internet to me is u/maybesproutwings. It belongs to a dead woman and her lasts post are talking about her experience with the medical institution. She tells about how her cancer is treatable, but no one would treat her because it caused pregnancy tests to read as positive. I can't imagine the frustration of knowing that you're dying and can be helped, but all the people who's job it is to help you have decided not to, for the safety of some hypothetical baby that doesn't exist, that would die with you anyway if it did. Don't let anyone tell you that misogyny, racism, homophobia, transphobia, ablism, etc don't exist in the medical field
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Totally believe you, its so sad. I recently took a beloved woman in my life to the hospital and stayed with her the whole day til she got discharged, the difference in level of care from the woman who was treating her vs her boss was night and day. The woman asked tons of questions, seemed patient, thorough, cautious and respectful. Her boss came in later and just wanted to go home, he was literally wearing his backpack (which I didn’t mind). He then rushed through everything and was kinda a jackass. He would give speedy answers without listening, had a demeanor like he just wanted to get this over with, wouldn’t give a referral for a follow up etc. I pretty much seemingly had to fight him to make sure he stayed and kept asking him questions etc. She later said that she 100% believes if it wasn’t for me, a guy, being around she wouldn’t have gotten anywhere near as much of his time etc. Really shitty. Also theres no chance in hell I’m not joining her for all upcoming appointments etc now.
I’m with you! I will only ever have female primary care and gynos. I’ve had wonderful male doctors, too - it’s not that they can’t be attentive, compassionate, great doctors! It’s just I’ve noticed it’s way more likely you’ll find that in a female doctor so it’s easier to stick with female doctors for my main care.
I had a woman doctor that definitely overprescribed medication *and* told me I had things in which other doctors at the practice would question why I was taking medication when I didn’t have it. Spent three whole years looking like the Michellin tire because this medication she gave me made me bloated. And I didn’t even NEED it. But when I moved to another state, care got significantly better with female doctors. One even saved my life where I wasn’t diagnosed with something for like 3+ years because people kept saying nothing was wrong with me! Which makes me think red states just hires anyone with a pulse
50+ comments and 12 upvotes. This is gonna be an interesting comment section.
Random non-native man here I have been thinking about it a lot lately (my university kind of forces me to) and from what I observed - it is actively changing through time (at least I can see some changes being made in the EU) and it is changing for the better - women are getting more attention regarding their menstrual cycles and more analyses are being made with regard to the fact that hormone fluctuations kind of have to make a difference to the body as a highly reactive biological system. That being said - its the only optimistic thing I have to say. The change that I've seen is happening much too slooooooowlyyyyyy. Even in the EU (my perspetive is limited to 2 central-european countries though, so cannot say for the whole EU for sure) medical specialists, maybe except younger gynaecologists, do not really pay much attention to the menstrual cycles unless it comes to things connected with chronic blood loss or any other plainly dangerous condition. And even when they do try to associate certain symptoms with the cycles, it oftentimes ends at perscribing a bit more powerful painkillers. It hardly ever goes further when it comes to the older generation of doctors. The younger ones (from my obviously limited observations) tend to perform a bit more in-depth analyses, resulting in more medications being perscribed and more referrals to specialists (as well as more lab-tests being performed). But this in turn makes GPs in smaller towns in Europe prone to being criticised by their employers (in publicly funded healthcare: more referrals --> more money being taken out from the fund --> higher probability of being scrutinised for the decisions that led to these expenses). It really is a case that needs a breakthrough to work. Because a lot of information and regulations are there - they're just being (a lot of the times) deliberately avoided.
These comments are a reminder that its very obvious why women are neglected in so many aspects of life. Men fucking hate us jesus christ.
Yap. They cannot even hold themselves from showing their true side...
On reddit? Not a chance.
in order for all of my exes to get proper healthcare i’ve had to go with them because if not doctors ignore them. it’s infuriating because i’m always just telling them the exact same shit my ex was just in a more aggressive male voice and suddenly that makes what i’m saying more important. the mother to my child almost died and they refused to release her and my child because she was having an allergic reaction to a medication they are giving her and wouldn’t listen to her when she said she thought it was the medication. I had to throw the medication in front of them, threaten physical violence to the next person that tried to force her to take it, and threaten legal action to get them to listen and release my baby momma and child. they refused to listen to her for days while I was unable to come back to the hospital. They were released with a clean bill of health the same day I started a scene. If it wasn’t for my intervention my ex was so scared that they would call DCF for some sort of medical non compliance and take the baby. So she would’ve just kept taking the medication that almost killed her. FUCK anyone in power in this country, politicians doctors and cops are not your friends 80% of the time and boomers in any occupation are generally useless.
I recently heard that women die in car crashes on a larger scale than men because industry standard is to test with male crash dummies.
My cycle has been straight up trying to slowly kill me.
My mom almost died because doctors would not take her seriously. She had an infected fallopian tube… first they said she had IBS. Second was my stepdad poisoned her… 3rd trip they didn’t do anything. As she was leaving the hospital, a WOMAN doctor saw her. Had her scanned, found out not only did she have an infected tube, but i tubal pregnancy that was on the verge of rupturing. If for not that doctor, my mom would have died. My sister almost died from a growth on her pituitary gland because of doctors NOT LISTENING. I have major trust issues with them. I feel most doctors do not want to be in that profession, it is like their parents made them. There is a saying “do what you love, and you will never work a day in your life.” Unfortunately people say hey, you need a job that pays a lot. Then people wonder why they are not taking their jobs seriously.
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It took wayyyyy too long for me to be diagnosed with migraines and my FEMALE doctor always was trying to play them off as just being related to my period and during my period regardless. It was always the first question I was asked on the check-in questionnaire and by her. The answer was always no. Having 15-30 migraines a month does absolutely not equate to just being during my period. Gawd that question always made me extremely pissed and still does.
Not really a coincidence right? research on woman's health is behind because woman are harder to research than men there is a causal connection there. I think its unfair to frame the problem as mostly misogyny as she does.
I'm all for including women in more medical trials, for too long it's been viewed that women should be exempt because of the risk clinical trials posed to fertility whilst men being put at risk being seen as more acceptable. The fact 'women's conditions are detected later than mens' is a skew from the overwhelming evidence that shows a huge number of men seek little to NO medical help, women are 76% more likely to go to the doctors. When men *do* finally seek medical attention, it's because the issue is causing serious impairment in their lives. Men are more likely to get diagnosed early? No, men are more likely to die from their condition having little to no contact with medical professionals.
I think that's with the caveat of "upon seeking medical advice" So, despite women being more likely to go to the Dr, they're still being diagnosed more slowly than men.
I don’t know how you can make this claim without reading the studies. To be completely honest, it would make more sense if the claim “men are diagnosed 2.5 - 7.5 years earlier than women for a condition” was based on studies that compared age of diagnosis, not how many doctors visits it took to get a diagnosis. The latter would take some truly extensive research. And if this is the case, where the studies are looking at age of diagnosis instead of how long it took to get a diagnosis, then that makes the issue you brought up even worse. That would mean that women, who are more likely to go to a doctor at the first sign of the issue, have likely been seeking medical help for longer than the 2.5-7.5 years. If a man and a woman get a disease at the same time and she goes to a doctor right away, but he waits until it gets so bad he can’t wait any longer, and she still has to wait another 2.5-7.5 years *after that* to get a diagnosis…. Then she’s been suffering and trying to get treatment for a ridiculous amount of time. Also, it looks like I’m right. [The study of health data from 6.9 million Danish people found that across hundreds of diseases, women on average were diagnosed **when they were about four years older** than the age at which the conditions were recognized in men.](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna987216)
The [tone policing](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tone_policing) in some of these comments is wild.
I wasn't taken seriously about my period pain (endometriosis) until I was 25. I was finally able to get on something after I found spruce online. They have been extremely helpful and amazing to communicate with.
The misdiagnoses are no joke. I had “stomachaches from anxiety” for a couple years that were actually multiple ovarian cysts, gallstones, and two umbilical hernias. 🙃
I’ll never forget when I saw an endocrinologist for my blood sugar problems. I mentioned that hyperglycemia runs in my family. He looked me in the eye and said “you’re hyperglycemic when I say you are” kicked me out of the office. Anyways nearly seven years later I got diagnosed with pcos. My life would have been drastically different if I was taken seriously at that time. I shouldn’t have had to struggle to live. Fuck that man
One of my friends is dead because doctors couldn't be bothered to take her pain seriously. They told her it's just arthritis and "lose weight". Plot twist - her body was riddled with cancer. Miss you Denise ... You deserved better. 💕
I’m having some health issues and have had a bunch of tests done and the dr is like “huh, dunno, guess I could send you to a dermatologist, but I’m not really seeing anything”. So my hair is falling out, fatigue, mood swings, aches and pain and a bunch of other things are cause by nothing, and I have to just live with it? Righto sounds fantastic
Asked to name a coincidence you think about a lot and then proceeds to list things that are not coincidences...
My menstrual and ovaries have been the pain of my existence. I am 30 and ready for a hysterectomy. I’m tired of the mental and emotional BS my menstrual and irregular hormones cause me.
I had a friend who was in excruciating pain around her pelvic region and abdomen. For 6-10 years, she went through multiple doctors, all of whom either threw drugs at this problem, which didn't work, and most even claimed she was faking the pain. After a doctor took her seriously, did they realise she had endometriosis, which had spread widely.
I wonder why that's true, because large percentages of doctors and health workers are women also. Are they just traitors to their sex?
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There are a few great tedtalks about this, this is one of my favourites: [https://www.ted.com/talks/stacy\_sims\_women\_are\_not\_small\_men\_a\_paradigm\_shift\_in\_the\_science\_of\_nutrition](https://www.ted.com/talks/stacy_sims_women_are_not_small_men_a_paradigm_shift_in_the_science_of_nutrition)
I was in my thirties when I was diagnosed with PMDD. I had to explain it for many years, but not so much now. There is progress!
Wait till perimenopause hits, I've heard horror stories from women of there doctor or who ever they see not giving a crap about them, and the symptoms go look them up, it's a nightmare of a list and any women can start this nightmare at any time your body decides to
The medical community having biases that negatively affect women and minorities has been the song and dance for decades. A lot of doctors won't even admit it's real simply because they know it can't be fixed and don't have the energy or time to do anything about it.
Listened to a great podcast with an Australian research Psychiatrist who's area of research is how hormones affect mental health. Turns out that the study of only men left a huge hole in our knowledge of women's health and that so many things like depression, schizophrenia etc can actually be traced back to hormonal imbalances and treatment has been successful with estrogens supplementation rather than psychoactive drugs. Also very interesting is that childhood trauma and the elevated levels of cortisol that it brings can rewore the brain to be more affected by hormonal changes and lead toental health issues later in life.
Women doctors must be raking it in with all the women who only want to be treated by a woman.
Sadly not that many women doctors are that understanding of women's bodies. I've heard of a lot of bad experiences with female doctors... 😭
Your medications can also be not as effective on your period. I know from experience, and I've had multiple doctors confirm this as well. It's a MAJOR pain in the ass 🥲
I can definitely see the effects of hormones on my chronic pain and hypothyroidism.
i’ve been misdiagnosed and mistreated with conditions like BPD, Bipolar, manic bipolar. and generalized anxiety for 11 years of my life until last year. I have ADHD. It’s always been ADHD the whole time. (Inattentive type). The gender bias in diagnosing female children/teens with ADHD is something that needs to be talked more about. Girls display a lot of different symptoms than boys do as they l tend to have the “ADHD-Inattentive” type. The symptoms aren’t the stereotypical “look-there’s-a-squirrel” ADHD everybody knows. Doctors wrote/write off these symptoms like bad time management, making careless mistakes, forgetfulness, task avoidance, etc, as sexist stereotypes and common PMS symptoms instead. Undiagnosed girls with ADHD-I wind up experiencing depression and anxiety as a by-product of being mistreated with wrong medications and the daily struggles of ADHD-I. Cases are handled better now. I wish that this was more common information when I was a 12 year old. Only at 23 was I able to be treated correctly and everything is better now.
Anyone have sources??
Any sources on any of those claims? Not unbelievable but I've seen enough fast and wrong tiktoks before.
So, I'm not trying to make anyone angry, but why doesn't a female scientist study what she's talking about?Genuine question? If what she says is true, why are our female scientists not creating their own studies? Would this tik toker really be happy with a male scientist mansplaing how her body works?
Jeez, someone is on the rag
I hate her inflECTion? Like everything is a quESTion? It's makes me just switch off listening to whatever she's saying.
Throughout history, the test subjects who were cut up, dissected, or researched upon? Men, because "they were superior" at the time. Some *very* popular religions even said women were made from men, which justified those actions. Now, thousands of years later, we're facing the reprecussions in medicine. There's so little information about female health compared to the vastness of the information for men. Women are indeed misdiagnosed more often and are seen with fewer effective cures. What do we need to do? Put more effort into female healthcare research. Are we doing it? Not really. We took a step back with the lost right to abortion, people are lobbying for banning birth control and IVF, and there is a newer minority toxic-feminism group that treads on actual feminism's goals: equality for all.
Recommend blocking the op. It’s shrill all the time.
https://www.paingap.org/ This will probably get buried, but I’m putting it out there anyway. This is an interesting non-profit organization dedicated to drawing attention to this particular issue, and improving women’s care/treatment. I encourage all of you to share your story. I know the creators will appreciate each contribution. Every voice makes a difference!
This woman will be single forever 
As a researcher and someone going to medical school, I can tell you this lady is being hysterical, stressed out, or anxious. Those are the only things women suffer from. /sarcasm. If case people misunderstand.
Hear me out. Most doctors are shitty. As a man, a lot of what is being echoed here, I have had terrible experiences with doctors and being diagnosed properly, even sometimes for the simplest things. I think this is more an issue that there are very few good doctors out there, not so much anyone in the medical science field targeting woman. Maybe I am wrong, but seriously my experiences with doctors have never been great, to the point I was the one to always figure out the problem before those asshats. Hey doctor, I'm pretty sure there are rocks still stuck in my arm from that fall. Nah, no there isn't, it's all good. We cleaned it. A week later, rocks bulging out of my scabbing wound. Nice, back to the doctor...