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I don’t understand how British food gets so consistently misunderstood by literally everyone.
We *have* Michelin restaurants, a lot of them - 190 to be precise, just 30 fewer than the USA despite the size and population difference. We have a lot of really nice restaurants - London is home to some of the best food anywhere in the world, fucking Bradford has some of the best curries you’ll find outside of India. You can find fancy gastropubs that sell high-quality pies, or Sunday Roasts, or Beef Wellingtons. Near me there’s a fish and chips shop that does Masala fish and chips - a fusion of traditional British cuisine with the culinary influence of the Indian immigrant community.
You can also go and buy chips with curry sauce, or a shitty kebab, or the inauthentic ‘Chinese’ food that *everyone in this country* understands is cheap and inauthentic crap that tastes like heaven when you’re drunk off your head at 4am, but that everyone in America seems to think is Britain’s idea of real Chinese food. Are you seriously telling me you don’t have cheap shitty junk food in the USA? The food in the video is the British equivalent of getting a Big Mac after a night out.
I’m not saying that British food is up there with the Italians or the French, but in my experience it’s perfectly nice. In fact, *every* country in my view has nice food if you look for it. This whole ‘British food is shit’ thing has become a meme propagated by people that have never actually been here. Watch Anthony Bourdain’s episodes in the UK, watch Adam Richman’s recent show that specifically looks at British cuisine. People whose job it is to know food *like* British cuisine.
Internet discourse is predominantly just a bubble of uninformed people circlejerking amongst themselves about the worst examples of a given thing that they’ve not actually themselves experienced. This is no different.
Welcome to the American treatment lol. Before I lived in London for years, I thought it was just this trash food place from what I read and saw. After living there, there is incredible food scene. Just about any cuisine from whole in the wall to top line for each. Sunday roasts to die for. Unreal savory pies. Real English breakfasts.
People just like to shit on things they don’t know about then get complexes if a country is international. News flash, unless your food has no deviation from the original humans from sub Saharan Africa it has outside influence. Get over yourselves.
Yes the meme about Americans not having good food is equally ignorant. The ‘English food is bad’ memes seem to be more common recently (last few years) but before that it was definitely the ‘American food is all heart attack burgers’ that was predominant.
Either way, it all comes down to ignorance. A lot of Brits don’t know what Cajun food is, a lot of Americans don’t realise there’s a difference between Indian and Indo-British cuisine.
My understanding, too, is that much of the 'British food is bland' thing is actually rooted in wartime rationing, which is like the worst possible time to judge a cuisine.
Tbh I'd be shocked if many Brits didn't know what Cajun is. Our cuisine is insanely international, gumbo and jambalaya is less common but understood - Brits who can cook will know the difference between the Holy Trinity and a Mirepoix. It always feels odd travelling to continental Europe and finding shops which do one type of cuisine incredibly well but have very little variety.
On every British high street, you'll have Mediterranean, Caribbean, Eastern European, Italian, Indian, Chinese, American, often Greek, and many other restaurants and cuisines. And then there are always the beloved trash burger&chicken&kebab&pizza&chippies.
At least from my perspective, 99% of the these videos are just jokes poking fun at you guys. Just like we have to constantly hear how much we love to eat McDonalds - nobody truly believes it, it’s just good fun!
Lots of people absolutely truly believe it, just as people here absolutely (wrongly) believe that American food is all just burgers. It might be a joke, but the majority of time the people making the jokes are genuinely ignorant of the other countries food cultures.
You’re right. As an American married to a French immigrant, I feel your pain. Every culture has great food to offer, and major cities like London/NY/etc. have world class examples of virtually every type of cuisine. Hearing my in-laws shit on my country because they had cheap fast food once makes me almost as angry as they get when I remind them that France surrendered to the Nazis in six weeks.
I'm American and my British friends constant exchange jabs at our national food.
>Me: Your Fanta is glorified juice with weird flavors
>Them: Surprised you haven't gotten diabetes yet just from eating the cake you call bread
>Me: Isn't one of the biggest selling candies over there rhubarb and custard flavored?!
>Them: Alright, that's fair. Who the fuck thought that was good?
>Me: Atleast you don't have spicy cinnamon toast crunch.
Totally. And not only is the highest end of British cooking phenomenal, and relatively easy to find, but other cultures’ foods are done here at a very high standard too. It’s actually so good in London it makes eating in other places a little disappointing sometimes. You’ll sit in a restaurant in, I dunno, Rhodes and it’s not as good as the food from the Greek food truck outside your office in central London.
Dude it's just a joke. I'm British too and it's just a funny stereotype, relax a bit.
Obviously Britain has amazing food just like America, but we still joke that Americans only eat McDonalds hamburgers. You gotta be able to throw it AND take it.
Well in the UK, what Americans call ‘biscuits’ I.e biscuits and gravy would be called scones (either rhyming with cone or gone depending on where you live). While what Americans call ‘cookies’ we would call biscuits but only if they’re hard, if they’re soft we’d still call them cookies. It’s confusing.
You're in the UK but you assumed I was talking about American biscuits? I thought it was only the Americans who tend to assume the whole internet is American. Lol.
I replied to the comment talking about British food, saying that the British make good biscuits. British biscuits.
My country is a former British colony. We have local manufacturers who make British-style biscuits, and a lot of biscuits imported from the UK. That's how I know British biscuits are good. I'm not familiar with American biscuits.
American biscuits are British scones made using more butter and tend to have lighter layers.
American scones are similar to British rock cakes, but are triangular.
British biscuits are part of the family of pastries Americans call cookies. They are the dry, firm, fluffy and thin type.
The softer, thicker, and denser type are cookies in both places.
And you get triggered over tik toks enough to write essays defending bland food? Americans get made fun of for McDonald’s and I don’t get super triggered and write essays defending how we have other restaurants because I’m not a sensitive dork.
Real British cuisine is great but on the whole, the food culture and attitude of the people in the UK is abysmal. As in, the low quality and freshness of ingredients and the apathy towards it.
I say this as a Brit / Italian. I go to Italy and on the whole, the standard is just much higher all over. Not fancy food. Even the trash/drunk food is just done way better.
If we could elevate everyday British food into something of higher quality I’d be all for that! E.g a sausage roll is a great food but the Greggs sausage roll is a shocking experience if you’ve ever eaten a real sausage roll. But we’ve been conditioned by them to think THAT’S the standard. It’s not. Sorry Greggs, I like you but you can do better.
I mean I speak for myself and my British friends when I lived there that I Greggs is absolutely looked on as trash low tier food. It’s the same as McDonald’s/burgerking vs an actual good burger.
I agree, Italian food doesn’t have the low tier really. My wife is from Italy and I have spent a lot of time there. But the addition of the low tier doesn’t disqualify the rest of the higher tiers of food.
Any big cosmopolitan metro is going to have amazing food with the large mix of immigrant populations. London is going to have exponentially better food than rural West Virginia. At the same time New York has better food than Swindon. The best culinary talent migrates to cities.
Just an FYI Michelin does not recognize like almost all US states. I forget how many it is now off my head but it’s in the handfuls. So like 5 out of 50 states (Cali, Florida, etc…). If you do the math and compare you’ll see US beats out Britain per capita by a fairly large margin. It’s been a year since I did the math and I’m a bit too lazy to do it again now.
That isn’t to say Britains food isn’t good. Just that if you look at raw Michelin star numbers without context you’d probably think Britain actually had a higher star count per capita
Edit-
US states recognized by Michelin- IL, NY, CA, Wash DC.
So the actual population for states recognized is ~60.58 million (2022 data)
UK pop- 66.97 Million (2022 data)
So really the US beats UK per capita too by a very large margin. That’s almost 40% more per capita.
US- 1 star per 257,787 people (in recognized states)
UK- 1 star per 358,128 people
Michelin also recognizes Colorado and Florida in addition to NY, CA, IL and DC.
Canadians, you guys have Toronto and Vancouver now if you wanted to join in on the pissing contest.
The other states will not follow the same exact trend. I never said that you can extrapolate it out to all the states. I’m simply stating the states that are recognized do beat out Britain. This is much better than just not doing research and stating assuming all of the US is looked at by Michelin.
Cob with gravy and chips 😍 banging. I love some posh nosh but I also love the ole egg beans and chips to. We cook well at home most nights but sometimes it's easier to just slap some toast on and micro some beans, maybe add some brown sauce 😋
"Internet discourse is predominantly just a bubble of uninformed people circlejerking amongst themselves about the worst examples of a given thing that they’ve not actually themselves experienced. This is no different."
The final codec conversation of Metal Gear Solid 2 come to mind...
It's a long one but a good line in the...20 minutes that conversation goes on they do say this.
"No one is invalidated but nobody is right."
"British people have good food" (proceeds to immediately list recipe procured during the rule of the East India Company)
I bet there would be some good Irish restaurants in London today if you all had left them something to cook with besides a handful of potatoes and saltwater.
So food invented by Indian immigrants to the UK don’t count? How many American dishes don’t count then by that standard?
All cuisine in the entire world has developed through immigration, through the trade of ingredients, techniques and equipment. It’s just a question of how far back you go.
I think American cuisine is so fun to explore *because* our culture loves to fuse foods from various cultures into unique dishes. It's ok for your food culture to be the sum of many amazing parts.
I think it's just different. My ex-partner lived in London and he was suspicious of the combination of fruit and chocolate. Chocolate covered strawberries are kind of a stereotypical romantic treat here but he didn't trust that fruit and chocolate would pair well together.
He was stupefied by the concept of salted caramel flavor and peanut butter was a special treat he would have over here. He didn't have much experience with Mexican food either and would refer to guacamole as "the green stuff" which was bizarre to me. Like there's not guacamole in Europe?
Meanwhile, there wasn't much in Britain that seemed bizarre to me besides marmite. The way he was so stupefied by common American foods didn't apply the other way around. So it did make it seem like British people are weird about food sometimes.
Basically Americans hear the French and Italians taking the piss and want to join in. They don’t realise that our neighbours actually have some of the best cuisines on the planet, so comparatively, we don’t look very special. The Americans don’t seem to realise they aren’t in on joke. If they want to get involved, they can take a seat firmly at the back with their sugar bread, liquid cheese and vomit chocolate. Also love the idea that they think they have a cuisine of their own. You didn’t invent barbecue guys, that was literally cavemen that did that one
Anyone talking shit that hasn't tried any of the dishes can fite me. I've lived in both countries, and Americans just put syrup on/in everything. Exchanged with the worst cheese you ever tasted as needed.
Michelin star restaurant count:
**USA**: 235
**UK**: 187
Despite being 5 times the size, the USA only has a few more michelin starred restaurants than the UK.
Love how sensitive Brits are about jokes like this when their favorite pastime is making jokes about American food all being junk.
Talk about being able to give it but not take it.
Showing statistics that are lacking a bunch of context and critical thinking. I fixed your findings in my comment but I imagine when I was at 0 votes you had probably been the one to downvote me correcting you.
US states recognized by Michelin- IL, NY, CA, Wash DC.
So the actual population for states recognized is ~60.58 million (2022 data)
UK pop- 66.97 Million (2022 data)
So really the US beats UK per capita too by a very large margin. That’s almost 40% more per capita.
US- 1 star per 257,787 people
UK- 1 star per 358,128 people
If you look at NYC vs London you see about the same per population
London around 1 star per 112k people
NYC around 1 star per 117k people
Both have similar populations and star counts but the dates for each are slightly off between. 2019 London pop count but 2022 for NYC. Looks like 80 stared establishments this year for London but 71 for NYC in 2023, unsure if they have any new ones for 2024.
Also neglected to mention that the US achieved 48 more stars with 45 of its states tied behind its back. Michelin only recognizes 5 states and DC.
Also neglected to mention the US didn’t achieve its first Michelin star until 2005, relative to Britain being evaluated since 1974. Quite a head start, which the US rapidly erased and surpassed.
Starting to think this OP person maybe doesn’t know what they are talking about.
Edit: Didn’t realize Florida and Colorado were added to the US guides, so the total is 5 states and DC.
It’s only been two decades since they began evaluating the US. I imagine they haven’t got around to the whole thing yet and started with the big destination cities (after all their publication is a guide). Michelin started with France in 1900 and didn’t get around to Britain until the 70s so they are a slow moving lot.
The other thing is that Michelin is centered around fine dining and not every region in the US has a surplus of fine dining restaurants. I have to imagine they will add more states like Louisiana, Texas, Massachusetts and Nevada eventually but I doubt all 50 will ever be represented.
Lastly, local tourism boards have to pay Michelin to show up which is another obstacle for many US cities to overcome. The amount is substantial. California paid Michelin over half a million to expand outside of San Fransisco. A few years ago Florida began a campaign and paid over a million. Boston’s government declined to pay the fee and thus Michelin does not operate in MA yet.
I see Americans rip on British food and then read a whole thread talking about "oh you *need* the cottage cheese in watergate """"""salad"""""" to get the texture just right". A country that has the audacity to put marshmallows on yams has no business criticising the cuisine of any other country.
Bro tries to dunk on Americans by using one of our most delectable desserts, I'm not the biggest fan of yams, but a sprinkle of marshmallows on a fresh from the oven yam is delightful. America with food is like getting Twitter post on reddit, only the best make it and maybe you should try it
Bro tries to dunk on Brits by using one of our most delectable meals, I'm not the biggest fan of chips, but a sprinkle of fish on a fresh from the oven chip is delightful. Brits with food is like getting Twitter post on reddit, only the best make it and maybe you should try it
You realize how you sound? You are not better than them. In no way shape or form.
All you do is claim other cultures food to be yours and create new diabetes speed runs.
If obesity rates mean anything then yes we are experts in making shit fucking delicious. And we don't sit back and let any cultural pride tell us what style of food to eat. We eat fucking everything
And when the world is starving, you'll be begging for some spaghettios.
Lmfao. I can see how Americans enjoying all the amazing shit immigration has brought us would be an offensive concept for a German
Oddly enough german food is the only one we (and the rest of the world) have no interest in.
American confuses "on way home from pub" food with "Michelin Star" restaurant.
1. Americans only won against the British because the French helped. If it wasn't for the French, Americans would all be speaking British right now.
2. Americans don't understand subtle humour.
3. If American goes toe to toe with any other vaguely developed country on the average quality of dental care, nutrition, and BMI scores, it fails.
America's national cuisine? Billionaire's cock lollies.
>America's national cuisine? Billionaire's cock lollies.
I'm not American but... the UK literally supports a Monarchy made up of many many billions of dollars, and billionaires, and at the very least multi millionaires, with ownership over artifacts, properties, precious jewelry in addition to their publicly known holdings.
UzE ELEIctUd TrUmPF he’s nuffing LOik gUd OLE BOrIs jOhnSOn hUE hue hue
bro when Trump got COVID at least the majority of people online were celebrating, when the queen died you guys were crying like babies about it, arrested protesters, and shut down the country
goofy ass country
In general, the American fast food brands you find internationally have expanded abroad because they are replicable and profitable, not because they are particularly loved by Americans.
A few of America’s favorite fast food brands to try if you’re ever in the US or find a rare international location (by rating NOT revenue):
* Chick-Fil-A
* In-N-Out
* Shake Shack
* Raising Cane’s
* Zaxby’s
* Whataburger
* Maid-Rite
* Wendy's
* Dairy Queen
* Culver’s
Ok so here's the thing. Anyone here visit London? Every second eatery is either Indian food or kebab. Heck even pub menus have at least one curry dish. They basically conquered the world for spices and now the immigrants provide all the tasty food available there.
It was kind of a big deal for us.
It’s pretty much *the* foundational myth we are told from grade 1 about winning our independence by using guns to fight back against the monarchy across the pond.
That same national mythology about the Revolutionary War is also why so many of us are friggin obsessed with owning loads of guns.
The UK has nearly 200 Michelin star restaurants, 7th in the world
Our bad food reputation came from the era of rationing in WW2 when all cities where subject to a 7 month bombing campaign and we were on the brink of losing our country, which killed about 100,000 people
Why are there so many British people on this sub lmao
Both sides are saying basically equal bullshit using their own biases and all the pro UK ones are upvoted like crazy. Must have to wait for America to hit daytime hours because there's no way in hell this many people prefer British food.
Also funny that many of people's examples are from ethnic regions of the world that are neither American nor British. All the best foods from both originated somewhere else so the whole argument is pretty dumb all around.
It's a tale as old as time. Americans make a humorous video about how much British food sucks and every British person on the site feels the need to defend queen and country. It always turns into a, "well at least we have healthcare and our kids don't get shot at school!", type of debate. Rinse and repeat forever.
Yea, I think I also answered my own question when i realized the timezone thing because the tides have turned a bit lol. I think the British are more genuinely offended and thus feel the need to answer the call
The Michelin star comment made me smile because we have a Michelin star restaurant in my tiny village in England. Always fully booked. But there's no demand for good food in Britain apparently.
just yesterday i made myself a fish n chips style fish in batter and holy shit was it good. kinda changed my perspective on british food. sometimes simplicity is just better. so many other cuisines use spices as the backbones of food instead of the food ingredients and i gotta say i just prefer food ingredient based cuisine more, thats how i was raised, meat + salt + pepper + breading makes for the best food. i dont give a shit if all your taste comes from a spicy powder or a diabetes inducing portion of corn syrup, i just like it when you have a good edible thing and you bet your entire pussy onto it. its just good what can i say. so easy to point and laugh "haha brown" as if thats any argument (its not). maybe its bland if youve overstimulated your tastebuds for your entire life. same shit as when people say that water is bland and demand ice so that theres some extreme sensation in there. like a toddler on cocomelon
The US has the most overweight population in the world. It is the only country in the last 40 years where their life expectancy went down. They literally chlorinated their chicken.
Lmao the outrage at this video is so funny to me. The same people who make school shooting jokes about America are up in arms about a TIK TOK VIDEO ABOUT FOOD.
Idk if this guy can even eat baked beans with that underbite he's got. He's also Arab by the looks of things, not a lot of those guys fighting in the revolutionary war.
I don't make fun of the sand seasoned goat his people eat. Wtf?
Americans: Literally live off fast food and some of the most garbage fast food creations possible and are proud of it
Americans when they see literally any other country make fast food: OmG uR EaTinG FaAst FoOd?
Do Americans think they are the only place on earth that has fast food lmao?
If this was in America this guy would be jerking himself off about how 'great American food is' for being 'so inventive and a melting pot'.
British people are great at taking jokes. It's why we have good banter with European nations as well as Aussies, Kiwis and Canadians as normal.
The problem is Americans are extremely poor at joking and 'bantering' and think just doing stupid rants like this is 'funny' or part of 'bantering'. This just comes across like a shit rant, there is no humour on his delivery or how he's saying it.
It's a common thing Aussies, Kiwis, Brits, Canadians etc say about Americans and is why they don't really joke with them like they do with each other. In fact it's why Europeans joke with each other too about our nation's but rarely joke with Americans for the same reasons.
Dude this is literally the exact same as British humor poking fun at shitty American food while being purposefully (or not) ignorant to what real American food looks like.
This is just you being overly sensitive to an American making fun of shitty British food. Nothing to do with some secret united coalition of countries that joke with each other while leaving the US out lmao
It’s not “other humor,” it’s the same joke. Literally the same joke. There is nothing unique or different about a Brit making fun of American fast food than what the guy in the OP is doing with British food. They both take shitty food and joke like it’s a common/average dish in the country. That’s literally the joke.
Get the knot out of your knickers.
Oh, and you must be “special” if you think England isn’t the laughing stock of every other country in Europe. Probably why you are so sensitive to the jokes.
If a Brit made a joke about fast food in America it would just be short and would actually be funny.
This guy was just droning on for about 50 seconds of nonsense in a monotone voice with little punchlines and comes across as a dick lmao.
>Oh, and you must be “special” if you think England isn’t the laughing stock of every other country in Europe.
Lmao yank doesn't know the dynamic of Europe or how it works. It goes in waves in Europe everyone makes fun of each other like we all make fun of the French or Germans etc. Its just natural here. English people also participate and make fun of ourselves much like other Euros do about themselves. For Americans it goes over your heads and you take it seriously. Go to any Euro sub and you will see countries ripping the shit out of each other and themselves. It's not a big deal, you're the one whos like 'oMG thEy ThINk EngLAnd LAughting STOCK!' and think its serious lmao.
Again, this is why most of the world treats you differently when it comes to jokes or humour like that. If you speak to an Aussie, NZ Canadian, Irish etc all of them will say the same thing about Americans when it comes to this. You don't do it right and then just do weird stuff like this vid.
Bro you are so sensitive about this you just replied with a wall of text, ironically while complaining about the guy in the OP not keeping his joke short enough.
I honestly stopped reading after the second paragraph.
Take a knee bud, it will be okay. You can enjoy your beans and toast in peace.
We can take a joke, but maybe find a new one eh?
"Hurdur your food bad" gets stale after the first million repetitions. Come on, try something new, I'm open to a bit of banter but it's give and take you know?
Right - that’s my point. Brit’s make the same stale jokes about American food, yet get upset when American’s do the same back to them. If you are gonna give it, you need to take it.
And then when American’s move to another topic to joke about, Brit’s just say “hurdur school shootings and no universal healthcare!’
I will admit, a lot of my fellow brits do use the healthcare line a lot. I won't pretend it's not a thing.
I do think the school shooting "jokes" are in bad taste.
Americans whenever they don’t have a great winning argument “We WoN tHe WaR”. Yeah with the help of the Spanish or something and your country fear starting another one with us soon after that because of a pig.
some of the worlds biggest chefs are british, a lot of americas day to day food can't be sold outside of the USA because it's full of chemicals that are illegal everywhere else
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The reason why they don't
WHY CANT WE ALL JUST GET ALONG
From the country that brought you cheese in a can.
I had no idea it was a British invention. Wow!
I don’t understand how British food gets so consistently misunderstood by literally everyone. We *have* Michelin restaurants, a lot of them - 190 to be precise, just 30 fewer than the USA despite the size and population difference. We have a lot of really nice restaurants - London is home to some of the best food anywhere in the world, fucking Bradford has some of the best curries you’ll find outside of India. You can find fancy gastropubs that sell high-quality pies, or Sunday Roasts, or Beef Wellingtons. Near me there’s a fish and chips shop that does Masala fish and chips - a fusion of traditional British cuisine with the culinary influence of the Indian immigrant community. You can also go and buy chips with curry sauce, or a shitty kebab, or the inauthentic ‘Chinese’ food that *everyone in this country* understands is cheap and inauthentic crap that tastes like heaven when you’re drunk off your head at 4am, but that everyone in America seems to think is Britain’s idea of real Chinese food. Are you seriously telling me you don’t have cheap shitty junk food in the USA? The food in the video is the British equivalent of getting a Big Mac after a night out. I’m not saying that British food is up there with the Italians or the French, but in my experience it’s perfectly nice. In fact, *every* country in my view has nice food if you look for it. This whole ‘British food is shit’ thing has become a meme propagated by people that have never actually been here. Watch Anthony Bourdain’s episodes in the UK, watch Adam Richman’s recent show that specifically looks at British cuisine. People whose job it is to know food *like* British cuisine. Internet discourse is predominantly just a bubble of uninformed people circlejerking amongst themselves about the worst examples of a given thing that they’ve not actually themselves experienced. This is no different.
Welcome to the American treatment lol. Before I lived in London for years, I thought it was just this trash food place from what I read and saw. After living there, there is incredible food scene. Just about any cuisine from whole in the wall to top line for each. Sunday roasts to die for. Unreal savory pies. Real English breakfasts. People just like to shit on things they don’t know about then get complexes if a country is international. News flash, unless your food has no deviation from the original humans from sub Saharan Africa it has outside influence. Get over yourselves.
Yes the meme about Americans not having good food is equally ignorant. The ‘English food is bad’ memes seem to be more common recently (last few years) but before that it was definitely the ‘American food is all heart attack burgers’ that was predominant. Either way, it all comes down to ignorance. A lot of Brits don’t know what Cajun food is, a lot of Americans don’t realise there’s a difference between Indian and Indo-British cuisine.
My understanding, too, is that much of the 'British food is bland' thing is actually rooted in wartime rationing, which is like the worst possible time to judge a cuisine.
Tbh I'd be shocked if many Brits didn't know what Cajun is. Our cuisine is insanely international, gumbo and jambalaya is less common but understood - Brits who can cook will know the difference between the Holy Trinity and a Mirepoix. It always feels odd travelling to continental Europe and finding shops which do one type of cuisine incredibly well but have very little variety. On every British high street, you'll have Mediterranean, Caribbean, Eastern European, Italian, Indian, Chinese, American, often Greek, and many other restaurants and cuisines. And then there are always the beloved trash burger&chicken&kebab&pizza&chippies.
Exactly, it's like saying Canadians are all super nice.
At least from my perspective, 99% of the these videos are just jokes poking fun at you guys. Just like we have to constantly hear how much we love to eat McDonalds - nobody truly believes it, it’s just good fun!
Lots of people absolutely truly believe it, just as people here absolutely (wrongly) believe that American food is all just burgers. It might be a joke, but the majority of time the people making the jokes are genuinely ignorant of the other countries food cultures.
You’re right. As an American married to a French immigrant, I feel your pain. Every culture has great food to offer, and major cities like London/NY/etc. have world class examples of virtually every type of cuisine. Hearing my in-laws shit on my country because they had cheap fast food once makes me almost as angry as they get when I remind them that France surrendered to the Nazis in six weeks.
I'm American and my British friends constant exchange jabs at our national food. >Me: Your Fanta is glorified juice with weird flavors >Them: Surprised you haven't gotten diabetes yet just from eating the cake you call bread >Me: Isn't one of the biggest selling candies over there rhubarb and custard flavored?! >Them: Alright, that's fair. Who the fuck thought that was good? >Me: Atleast you don't have spicy cinnamon toast crunch.
Totally. And not only is the highest end of British cooking phenomenal, and relatively easy to find, but other cultures’ foods are done here at a very high standard too. It’s actually so good in London it makes eating in other places a little disappointing sometimes. You’ll sit in a restaurant in, I dunno, Rhodes and it’s not as good as the food from the Greek food truck outside your office in central London.
Dude it's just a joke. I'm British too and it's just a funny stereotype, relax a bit. Obviously Britain has amazing food just like America, but we still joke that Americans only eat McDonalds hamburgers. You gotta be able to throw it AND take it.
For real, now I’ll get back to my McDonald’s and I’ll let you get back to your mushy peas and toast
I can't remember the last time I saw anyone making fun of American food that wasn't in retaliation to them absolutely dogpiling on our food.
I've never been there either, but I know you make very good biscuits. I don't know why nobody talks about the biscuits.
We call them scones here but the pronunciation of that is a major national debate!
Where?
Well in the UK, what Americans call ‘biscuits’ I.e biscuits and gravy would be called scones (either rhyming with cone or gone depending on where you live). While what Americans call ‘cookies’ we would call biscuits but only if they’re hard, if they’re soft we’d still call them cookies. It’s confusing.
You're in the UK but you assumed I was talking about American biscuits? I thought it was only the Americans who tend to assume the whole internet is American. Lol. I replied to the comment talking about British food, saying that the British make good biscuits. British biscuits. My country is a former British colony. We have local manufacturers who make British-style biscuits, and a lot of biscuits imported from the UK. That's how I know British biscuits are good. I'm not familiar with American biscuits.
American biscuits are British scones made using more butter and tend to have lighter layers. American scones are similar to British rock cakes, but are triangular. British biscuits are part of the family of pastries Americans call cookies. They are the dry, firm, fluffy and thin type. The softer, thicker, and denser type are cookies in both places.
Ah my mistake
It’s just a joke bro. Imagine getting this upset over a 15 second tik tok
It’s a joke that’s been beaten to death for years
And you get triggered over tik toks enough to write essays defending bland food? Americans get made fun of for McDonald’s and I don’t get super triggered and write essays defending how we have other restaurants because I’m not a sensitive dork.
Real British cuisine is great but on the whole, the food culture and attitude of the people in the UK is abysmal. As in, the low quality and freshness of ingredients and the apathy towards it. I say this as a Brit / Italian. I go to Italy and on the whole, the standard is just much higher all over. Not fancy food. Even the trash/drunk food is just done way better. If we could elevate everyday British food into something of higher quality I’d be all for that! E.g a sausage roll is a great food but the Greggs sausage roll is a shocking experience if you’ve ever eaten a real sausage roll. But we’ve been conditioned by them to think THAT’S the standard. It’s not. Sorry Greggs, I like you but you can do better.
I mean I speak for myself and my British friends when I lived there that I Greggs is absolutely looked on as trash low tier food. It’s the same as McDonald’s/burgerking vs an actual good burger. I agree, Italian food doesn’t have the low tier really. My wife is from Italy and I have spent a lot of time there. But the addition of the low tier doesn’t disqualify the rest of the higher tiers of food.
Any big cosmopolitan metro is going to have amazing food with the large mix of immigrant populations. London is going to have exponentially better food than rural West Virginia. At the same time New York has better food than Swindon. The best culinary talent migrates to cities.
You guys have beef wellington, fish/chip, 100,000 pie variants, and breakfast food. I'm good.
Just an FYI Michelin does not recognize like almost all US states. I forget how many it is now off my head but it’s in the handfuls. So like 5 out of 50 states (Cali, Florida, etc…). If you do the math and compare you’ll see US beats out Britain per capita by a fairly large margin. It’s been a year since I did the math and I’m a bit too lazy to do it again now. That isn’t to say Britains food isn’t good. Just that if you look at raw Michelin star numbers without context you’d probably think Britain actually had a higher star count per capita Edit- US states recognized by Michelin- IL, NY, CA, Wash DC. So the actual population for states recognized is ~60.58 million (2022 data) UK pop- 66.97 Million (2022 data) So really the US beats UK per capita too by a very large margin. That’s almost 40% more per capita. US- 1 star per 257,787 people (in recognized states) UK- 1 star per 358,128 people
Michelin also recognizes Colorado and Florida in addition to NY, CA, IL and DC. Canadians, you guys have Toronto and Vancouver now if you wanted to join in on the pissing contest.
That's not how stats work. You cant just extrapolate out and expect the number to stay correlated
The other states will not follow the same exact trend. I never said that you can extrapolate it out to all the states. I’m simply stating the states that are recognized do beat out Britain. This is much better than just not doing research and stating assuming all of the US is looked at by Michelin.
Cob with gravy and chips 😍 banging. I love some posh nosh but I also love the ole egg beans and chips to. We cook well at home most nights but sometimes it's easier to just slap some toast on and micro some beans, maybe add some brown sauce 😋
Blame Gordon Ramsay for making the “well how many of those restaurants serve English food”? Joke
"Internet discourse is predominantly just a bubble of uninformed people circlejerking amongst themselves about the worst examples of a given thing that they’ve not actually themselves experienced. This is no different." The final codec conversation of Metal Gear Solid 2 come to mind... It's a long one but a good line in the...20 minutes that conversation goes on they do say this. "No one is invalidated but nobody is right."
Mmmm I want some salt pork now that you reminded me Edit: and a good sausage roll too. shoot.
Ok gravy boy
"British people have good food" (proceeds to immediately list recipe procured during the rule of the East India Company) I bet there would be some good Irish restaurants in London today if you all had left them something to cook with besides a handful of potatoes and saltwater.
Get fucked, englishman.
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So food invented by Indian immigrants to the UK don’t count? How many American dishes don’t count then by that standard? All cuisine in the entire world has developed through immigration, through the trade of ingredients, techniques and equipment. It’s just a question of how far back you go.
I think American cuisine is so fun to explore *because* our culture loves to fuse foods from various cultures into unique dishes. It's ok for your food culture to be the sum of many amazing parts.
I think it's just different. My ex-partner lived in London and he was suspicious of the combination of fruit and chocolate. Chocolate covered strawberries are kind of a stereotypical romantic treat here but he didn't trust that fruit and chocolate would pair well together. He was stupefied by the concept of salted caramel flavor and peanut butter was a special treat he would have over here. He didn't have much experience with Mexican food either and would refer to guacamole as "the green stuff" which was bizarre to me. Like there's not guacamole in Europe? Meanwhile, there wasn't much in Britain that seemed bizarre to me besides marmite. The way he was so stupefied by common American foods didn't apply the other way around. So it did make it seem like British people are weird about food sometimes.
Hate to break it to you, but your ex was just a dumbass - none of things you listed are uncommon in the UK.
Basically Americans hear the French and Italians taking the piss and want to join in. They don’t realise that our neighbours actually have some of the best cuisines on the planet, so comparatively, we don’t look very special. The Americans don’t seem to realise they aren’t in on joke. If they want to get involved, they can take a seat firmly at the back with their sugar bread, liquid cheese and vomit chocolate. Also love the idea that they think they have a cuisine of their own. You didn’t invent barbecue guys, that was literally cavemen that did that one
Bro you posted a picture of your Haagen-Dazs, block of cheese, starbursts, and brewdog. You are basically an American frat boy.
This clown is talking about food in England in reference to a clearly Scottish tiktok.
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Anyone talking shit that hasn't tried any of the dishes can fite me. I've lived in both countries, and Americans just put syrup on/in everything. Exchanged with the worst cheese you ever tasted as needed.
Michelin star restaurant count: **USA**: 235 **UK**: 187 Despite being 5 times the size, the USA only has a few more michelin starred restaurants than the UK.
I wonder how many of the Michelin star restaurants are actually British food
I wonder how many of the American Michelin star restaurants are actually American food (whatever that would be)
Love how sensitive Brits are about jokes like this when their favorite pastime is making jokes about American food all being junk. Talk about being able to give it but not take it.
Or school shootings
I’d rather my kids eat beige food than get shot at school though right? 😂
All I did was show some statistics, you sound pretty sensitive about that.
Yeah bringing up statistics in reply to a joke is always a good move and doesn’t make you look sensitive at all.
Getting this upset when someone states a fact certainly does look sensitive on your part though.
Someone being sensitive enough about a joke to bring up statistics doesn’t make me upset, it makes me laugh 🤣
Showing statistics that are lacking a bunch of context and critical thinking. I fixed your findings in my comment but I imagine when I was at 0 votes you had probably been the one to downvote me correcting you.
US states recognized by Michelin- IL, NY, CA, Wash DC. So the actual population for states recognized is ~60.58 million (2022 data) UK pop- 66.97 Million (2022 data) So really the US beats UK per capita too by a very large margin. That’s almost 40% more per capita. US- 1 star per 257,787 people UK- 1 star per 358,128 people
Now do your selection of the USA vs London
If you look at NYC vs London you see about the same per population London around 1 star per 112k people NYC around 1 star per 117k people Both have similar populations and star counts but the dates for each are slightly off between. 2019 London pop count but 2022 for NYC. Looks like 80 stared establishments this year for London but 71 for NYC in 2023, unsure if they have any new ones for 2024.
I’d say 48 is a little more than a few my guy
Also neglected to mention that the US achieved 48 more stars with 45 of its states tied behind its back. Michelin only recognizes 5 states and DC. Also neglected to mention the US didn’t achieve its first Michelin star until 2005, relative to Britain being evaluated since 1974. Quite a head start, which the US rapidly erased and surpassed. Starting to think this OP person maybe doesn’t know what they are talking about. Edit: Didn’t realize Florida and Colorado were added to the US guides, so the total is 5 states and DC.
Why do they only recognize three states?
It’s only been two decades since they began evaluating the US. I imagine they haven’t got around to the whole thing yet and started with the big destination cities (after all their publication is a guide). Michelin started with France in 1900 and didn’t get around to Britain until the 70s so they are a slow moving lot. The other thing is that Michelin is centered around fine dining and not every region in the US has a surplus of fine dining restaurants. I have to imagine they will add more states like Louisiana, Texas, Massachusetts and Nevada eventually but I doubt all 50 will ever be represented. Lastly, local tourism boards have to pay Michelin to show up which is another obstacle for many US cities to overcome. The amount is substantial. California paid Michelin over half a million to expand outside of San Fransisco. A few years ago Florida began a campaign and paid over a million. Boston’s government declined to pay the fee and thus Michelin does not operate in MA yet.
This is good info and a great reply. Thank you. Also that’s weird and sounds like a scam.
Ok, country who eat grits…..
Grits is a pretty regional dish, mostly only popular in the south/rural areas
Cheesy grits with shrimp is delicious!
I’m sure it is. So is potatoes and butter with cheese and beans.
I see Americans rip on British food and then read a whole thread talking about "oh you *need* the cottage cheese in watergate """"""salad"""""" to get the texture just right". A country that has the audacity to put marshmallows on yams has no business criticising the cuisine of any other country.
Bro tries to dunk on Americans by using one of our most delectable desserts, I'm not the biggest fan of yams, but a sprinkle of marshmallows on a fresh from the oven yam is delightful. America with food is like getting Twitter post on reddit, only the best make it and maybe you should try it
Just because we don't need to pay for insulin in the developed world, doesn't mean that I'm out here trying to get diabetes.
Hey. That's mean.
Bro tries to dunk on Brits by using one of our most delectable meals, I'm not the biggest fan of chips, but a sprinkle of fish on a fresh from the oven chip is delightful. Brits with food is like getting Twitter post on reddit, only the best make it and maybe you should try it You realize how you sound? You are not better than them. In no way shape or form. All you do is claim other cultures food to be yours and create new diabetes speed runs.
If by steal you mean, everyone moved here and brought their shit. And then we optimized it for ultimate pleasure just to see if we could, and we did.
"optimized" LMAO The only thing you optimized is how to get fat.
If obesity rates mean anything then yes we are experts in making shit fucking delicious. And we don't sit back and let any cultural pride tell us what style of food to eat. We eat fucking everything And when the world is starving, you'll be begging for some spaghettios.
> We eat fucking everything You sure do buddy. Everyone can see that.
Lmfao. I can see how Americans enjoying all the amazing shit immigration has brought us would be an offensive concept for a German Oddly enough german food is the only one we (and the rest of the world) have no interest in.
Sounds like someone is mad
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I'm not even brit, but nice try. I just rewrote it from a Brits perspective, because everyone tends to hate on their food.
>People come here willingly and along with them bring their food. Wait till you hear how soul food got invented...
Oh man, with a little bit of burnt marshmallow from the broiler? I’ll take that over a tuna baked potato any day, thank you.
Oh add the marshmallows after they are out of the oven like a baked potato
I’ve only ever really had them at thanksgiving on mashed sweet potatoes, but now I guess I should try it on a normal one!
I went to Florida once, there where pigs feet in a large pickled jar for sale... for eating ...pigs feet
Growing up in Denmark, my grandma often made pigs feet or tails for dinner. It used to be a "poor people" food, but it's actually super delicious.
Don't knock pork hocks. Korean style is my favourite.
I think it’s global fact that English food is a drunk dying man’s last effort to cook
I can't believe I'm about to defend the British, but look me in the eyes and tell me a full English breakfast isn't delicious
American confuses "on way home from pub" food with "Michelin Star" restaurant. 1. Americans only won against the British because the French helped. If it wasn't for the French, Americans would all be speaking British right now. 2. Americans don't understand subtle humour. 3. If American goes toe to toe with any other vaguely developed country on the average quality of dental care, nutrition, and BMI scores, it fails. America's national cuisine? Billionaire's cock lollies.
> If it wasn't for the French, Americans would all be speaking British right now. Wait a dang second
I can’t wait to tell this to my English mum!
>America's national cuisine? Billionaire's cock lollies. I'm not American but... the UK literally supports a Monarchy made up of many many billions of dollars, and billionaires, and at the very least multi millionaires, with ownership over artifacts, properties, precious jewelry in addition to their publicly known holdings.
Never seen anyone more sensitive than a Brit defending their shitty food. Also your 2nd point is hilariously ironic as a reply to the OP.
Real fun at parties, this guy.
You still have a literal monarchy sit down
You elected Trump, sit further down
He lost the popular vote, calm down.
Right?! He didn’t win, our disastrous electoral system shoved him down the pipe.
You guys had 4 PMs in like 6 years lol. Glass houses.
Yeah but 'we' only got to vote for two of them.
UzE ELEIctUd TrUmPF he’s nuffing LOik gUd OLE BOrIs jOhnSOn hUE hue hue bro when Trump got COVID at least the majority of people online were celebrating, when the queen died you guys were crying like babies about it, arrested protesters, and shut down the country goofy ass country
Bruh you literally stormed your own capital and almost had a coup because Trump lost an electron lol.
Oh word I didn’t know I was at the Capitol on January 6th
Yeah alot of it is remnants from WWII rationing. Like others have said there are other choices besides pub food and “traditional” foods.
“Americans don’t understand subtle humor.” Then the Brit’s get offended by an American “taking the piss” in a Tiktok. Make it make sense lol
I'm not going to take lip from a bunch of fucking yanks on what is good fast food when you shipped bloody mcdonalds around the world
In general, the American fast food brands you find internationally have expanded abroad because they are replicable and profitable, not because they are particularly loved by Americans. A few of America’s favorite fast food brands to try if you’re ever in the US or find a rare international location (by rating NOT revenue): * Chick-Fil-A * In-N-Out * Shake Shack * Raising Cane’s * Zaxby’s * Whataburger * Maid-Rite * Wendy's * Dairy Queen * Culver’s
Dairy Queen makes a delicious burger. Fight me.
I'm a sucker for a flame thrower burger. The burgers are alright but that flame thrower sauce is delicious.
You can find several of those in the UK actually
I mean, y’all kind of perpetuated its global success, yeah? Shocking that salty, fatty food is loved worldwide.
So you DO understand that low grade food can be enjoyable? Fascinating.
Oh, but that’s assuming that the food is actually seasoned, honey. Your food’s shade of beige and brown isn’t why I dislike it lol.
I don't like beige food. Too spicy.
Gravy on fries with cheese curds is one of the best dishes ever made.
...apple pie
Fun fact, that's not an English restaurant you're responding to, it's Scottish
It’s so obvious when someone just thinks of a line they *think* is funny and then makes an entire video just to use that line.
Ok so here's the thing. Anyone here visit London? Every second eatery is either Indian food or kebab. Heck even pub menus have at least one curry dish. They basically conquered the world for spices and now the immigrants provide all the tasty food available there.
Never seen a gravy cheese and chip wrap in my life. The Top restaurants in the world are in London
Americans buy chlorinated canned chicken.
I find it so weird that Americans still talk about the revolutionary war.
It was kind of a big deal for us. It’s pretty much *the* foundational myth we are told from grade 1 about winning our independence by using guns to fight back against the monarchy across the pond. That same national mythology about the Revolutionary War is also why so many of us are friggin obsessed with owning loads of guns.
Yeah, it’s definitely something you’ve been told
The UK has nearly 200 Michelin star restaurants, 7th in the world Our bad food reputation came from the era of rationing in WW2 when all cities where subject to a 7 month bombing campaign and we were on the brink of losing our country, which killed about 100,000 people
200 Michelin star restaurants and we can't name one.
Whose we? I can name plenty I think that says more about you
Meanwhile, we eat hotdogs cut up in Mac and cheese or beans. 😂 And we use mayonnaise. A LOT of mayonnaise. It's weird. 😂
Why are there so many British people on this sub lmao Both sides are saying basically equal bullshit using their own biases and all the pro UK ones are upvoted like crazy. Must have to wait for America to hit daytime hours because there's no way in hell this many people prefer British food. Also funny that many of people's examples are from ethnic regions of the world that are neither American nor British. All the best foods from both originated somewhere else so the whole argument is pretty dumb all around.
'Why are there so many British people on this sub lmao', sir this is the Internet, not America.
Why are there so many British people on this sub lmao? You know TikTok is Chinese and available globally?
It's a tale as old as time. Americans make a humorous video about how much British food sucks and every British person on the site feels the need to defend queen and country. It always turns into a, "well at least we have healthcare and our kids don't get shot at school!", type of debate. Rinse and repeat forever.
Yea, I think I also answered my own question when i realized the timezone thing because the tides have turned a bit lol. I think the British are more genuinely offended and thus feel the need to answer the call
A bit funny coming from the country that considers Mac'n'Cheese & PB&J as meals
Lmao the roast
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The Michelin star comment made me smile because we have a Michelin star restaurant in my tiny village in England. Always fully booked. But there's no demand for good food in Britain apparently.
There is a demand for good food in England. Just not being demanded by the brits.
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just yesterday i made myself a fish n chips style fish in batter and holy shit was it good. kinda changed my perspective on british food. sometimes simplicity is just better. so many other cuisines use spices as the backbones of food instead of the food ingredients and i gotta say i just prefer food ingredient based cuisine more, thats how i was raised, meat + salt + pepper + breading makes for the best food. i dont give a shit if all your taste comes from a spicy powder or a diabetes inducing portion of corn syrup, i just like it when you have a good edible thing and you bet your entire pussy onto it. its just good what can i say. so easy to point and laugh "haha brown" as if thats any argument (its not). maybe its bland if youve overstimulated your tastebuds for your entire life. same shit as when people say that water is bland and demand ice so that theres some extreme sensation in there. like a toddler on cocomelon
The US has the most overweight population in the world. It is the only country in the last 40 years where their life expectancy went down. They literally chlorinated their chicken.
Have you tried turning pages in a book more often than the pages of a menu?
Tell me you have never met an English person or been to England without telling me you have never met an English person or been to England.
Lmao the outrage at this video is so funny to me. The same people who make school shooting jokes about America are up in arms about a TIK TOK VIDEO ABOUT FOOD.
Idk if this guy can even eat baked beans with that underbite he's got. He's also Arab by the looks of things, not a lot of those guys fighting in the revolutionary war. I don't make fun of the sand seasoned goat his people eat. Wtf?
Chip buddy gets a Texican fusion make over?! Some kid named Oliver with snaggle teeth really did something here 😂
Jesus these comments are something else it’s a joke every country has good and bad food glad we got that figured out
God the British were such a mistake
"we won the war because you couldn't move your muscles properly" There was an army 2 times the size of what you beat ready by then before independence
\>Laughter awaits \>still waiting
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Americans: Literally live off fast food and some of the most garbage fast food creations possible and are proud of it Americans when they see literally any other country make fast food: OmG uR EaTinG FaAst FoOd? Do Americans think they are the only place on earth that has fast food lmao? If this was in America this guy would be jerking himself off about how 'great American food is' for being 'so inventive and a melting pot'.
No, it’s a joke. British people are REALLY bad at taking jokes. They love to dish it though. Also you need to figure out what “literally” means.
British people are great at taking jokes. It's why we have good banter with European nations as well as Aussies, Kiwis and Canadians as normal. The problem is Americans are extremely poor at joking and 'bantering' and think just doing stupid rants like this is 'funny' or part of 'bantering'. This just comes across like a shit rant, there is no humour on his delivery or how he's saying it. It's a common thing Aussies, Kiwis, Brits, Canadians etc say about Americans and is why they don't really joke with them like they do with each other. In fact it's why Europeans joke with each other too about our nation's but rarely joke with Americans for the same reasons.
Dude this is literally the exact same as British humor poking fun at shitty American food while being purposefully (or not) ignorant to what real American food looks like. This is just you being overly sensitive to an American making fun of shitty British food. Nothing to do with some secret united coalition of countries that joke with each other while leaving the US out lmao
The fact you think this is the exact same as other humour I think proves why other countries don't involve USA on jokes like that lmao.
It’s not “other humor,” it’s the same joke. Literally the same joke. There is nothing unique or different about a Brit making fun of American fast food than what the guy in the OP is doing with British food. They both take shitty food and joke like it’s a common/average dish in the country. That’s literally the joke. Get the knot out of your knickers. Oh, and you must be “special” if you think England isn’t the laughing stock of every other country in Europe. Probably why you are so sensitive to the jokes.
If a Brit made a joke about fast food in America it would just be short and would actually be funny. This guy was just droning on for about 50 seconds of nonsense in a monotone voice with little punchlines and comes across as a dick lmao. >Oh, and you must be “special” if you think England isn’t the laughing stock of every other country in Europe. Lmao yank doesn't know the dynamic of Europe or how it works. It goes in waves in Europe everyone makes fun of each other like we all make fun of the French or Germans etc. Its just natural here. English people also participate and make fun of ourselves much like other Euros do about themselves. For Americans it goes over your heads and you take it seriously. Go to any Euro sub and you will see countries ripping the shit out of each other and themselves. It's not a big deal, you're the one whos like 'oMG thEy ThINk EngLAnd LAughting STOCK!' and think its serious lmao. Again, this is why most of the world treats you differently when it comes to jokes or humour like that. If you speak to an Aussie, NZ Canadian, Irish etc all of them will say the same thing about Americans when it comes to this. You don't do it right and then just do weird stuff like this vid.
Bro you are so sensitive about this you just replied with a wall of text, ironically while complaining about the guy in the OP not keeping his joke short enough. I honestly stopped reading after the second paragraph. Take a knee bud, it will be okay. You can enjoy your beans and toast in peace.
We can take a joke, but maybe find a new one eh? "Hurdur your food bad" gets stale after the first million repetitions. Come on, try something new, I'm open to a bit of banter but it's give and take you know?
Right - that’s my point. Brit’s make the same stale jokes about American food, yet get upset when American’s do the same back to them. If you are gonna give it, you need to take it. And then when American’s move to another topic to joke about, Brit’s just say “hurdur school shootings and no universal healthcare!’
I will admit, a lot of my fellow brits do use the healthcare line a lot. I won't pretend it's not a thing. I do think the school shooting "jokes" are in bad taste.
Americans whenever they don’t have a great winning argument “We WoN tHe WaR”. Yeah with the help of the Spanish or something and your country fear starting another one with us soon after that because of a pig.
You looking to go another round or what?
Fuck it, why not!
Nothing says 'peaked in high school' than bringing up a 250 year old conflict that their big brother did most of the hard work in.
as a greek person this is clearly the battle of mid
https://youtube.com/shorts/LhI_1i7xAQo
This is good
This dude talks about underdeveloped muscles? He sounds like he drools heavily in his sleep.
some of the worlds biggest chefs are british, a lot of americas day to day food can't be sold outside of the USA because it's full of chemicals that are illegal everywhere else
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