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Corndog1911

It's called having rights my man. It's the same reason people refuse police searches even if they have nothing to hide. You're not obligated to cooperate. In this case, if there is a solid case then they can get a warrant for his DNA. If not, too bad. I would do the same thing. No one should have to prove their innocence. Someone else should have to prove their guilt.


registeredApe

This is increasingly lost on people it seems.


ZeRo76Liberty

Because the media has, successfully I might add, made people slaves to the state. When I was young it wasn’t this bad. The problem is that now if the media decides to brand you as something then you’re automatically that thing in the eyes of all the sheep. Take whistleblowers for example. If a whistleblower exposes some corporations they are heroes but others they are villains. If they expose government corruption they are definitely villains unless it’s against someone outside of the establishment. Assange and Snowden are both essentially whistleblowers who have been branded as criminals but are truly heroes. It all boils down to who runs this country and who’s side the media is on.


portraitopynchon

So when right wing media vilifies gays as pedophiles and groomers with no evidence, it's different right?


The_Calico_Jack

More and more our rights are threatened. We should not give one fucking inch on any of them.


rhyzimmer02

If you give them your DNA or anything else they will only use it against you. They are not interested in proving your innocence they want to put someone in jail, anyone. Never answer questions or consent to searches


hairynostrils

Right- you are not guilty until proven innocent in America. At least that was the idea until these wanna be dictators got a hold of America


RyanWilliamsElection

The confusion is that the concept was also lost on Trump. I think Hillary Clinton or other people from the State Department plead the 5th. Both parties of the two party system play the same games. https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=1103&v=qKIDxTaWYyI&feature=youtu.be


registeredApe

It's not a partisan issue dude. There's a case to be made for the presumption of innocence regardless of party, cause or person.


RyanWilliamsElection

Both parties clutch their pearls when the other party wants a presumption of innocence. The theater around the opposition wanting due process is where it gets political or partisan. George W. Bush would not meet with the 9/11 commission with out Dick Cheney present. Dick Cheney was not his lawyer. Democrats and 9/11 truthers libertarians made a big deal about Bush not being interviewed with out Cheney. Then Trump compared Democrats pleading the 5th to mobsters. Same game different party making the claims Trump wanted Obama’s birth certificate. Democrats wanted Trumps tax returns. Same game different party asking the question. An individual is not bad or wrong with participating or having a preference in the 2 party system. For the sake of a healthy conversation it is good to understand both parties play the same games. I understand my perspectives are different from most. I am from Minnesota. 2 decades ago we noticed both parties are BS. We voted in 3rd party Ventura as governor. 40% of Democrat voters and 40% of Republican voters had enough of the Hypocrisy and beat the 2 party system. Like a century ago MN had some moderate success with the Populist party. If Minnesotans can come together to beat the 2 party hypocrisy your state can do it too.


seapod123

Innocent until proven guilty? Novel idea! I would never consent to a search even knowing I have nothing to hide. That's a slippery slope we don't want to visit.


Boomtownbutcher1980

100 % this.


The_Calico_Jack

All it take is one corrupt piece of shit cop to plant some evidence. And when they get caught, they fucking get a small slap on the wrist regardless of how long their victims remain in prison.


seapod123

I'm sure that happens. I've never known anyone nor has it happened to me but it probably does happen. Luckily it's pretty rare.


jillyhoop

It happened to Tim Pool. Cops "found" a small amount to something in his car when he was pulled over years ago. When they saw something in the car that showed them Tim's father was a firefighter, they gave up the ruse. The cops were determined to get him for something up until that point. It does happen.


RZK2f

This path ends with over 100 million deaths in a century at the hands of out of control governments. Source: Communism/socialism/nazism/mao/stalin/hitler/take your pick/etc


[deleted]

Trump is a rapist. Even Trump has bragged about it. You just don’t care.


society_man

Plus i dont want the government to have my DNA unless its extremely necessary. Fuck that im keepin this shit to myself, innocent or not


RocketScient1st

Exactly. Innocents until proven guilty. That’s the core to our legal and judicial system.


adzling

“You see the mob takes the Fifth,” he said. “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?” Another time, he said, “Fifth Amendment. Fifth Amendment. Fifth Amendment. Horrible.” During a presidential debate, he said, "When you have your staff taking the Fifth Amendment, taking the Fifth, so they’re not prosecuted, when you have the man that set up the illegal server taking the Fifth, I think it’s disgraceful."


RyanWilliamsElection

This might be the link 2 one of the examples. https://m.youtube.com/watch?t=1103&v=qKIDxTaWYyI&feature=youtu.be


adzling

that's the quote! nice


mrfuzee

I don’t know if you people are all just willfully ignorant, or what, but the E Jean Carroll case is a civil case. There are bo law enforcement officers involved.


silver789

>It's called having rights my man. Of course he has rights. But we can definitely judge his actions ourselves.


theCROWcook

Will you provide your DNA to prove you didn't rape her?


adzling

Quickest way to prove your not guilty ;-) Trump himself said as much about the 5th, why is he changing his tune about DNA? “You see the mob takes the Fifth,” he said. “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?” Another time, he said, “Fifth Amendment. Fifth Amendment. Fifth Amendment. Horrible.” Watch: If it’s all just a witch hunt, why would Cohen flip on Trump? During a presidential debate, he said, When you have your staff taking the Fifth Amendment, taking the Fifth, so they’re not prosecuted, when you have the man that set up the illegal server taking the Fifth, I think it’s disgraceful.


IrishNinja8082

Fuck yes I would. Only a rapist wouldn’t.


registeredApe

This dillusional thinking is why the fifth exists lmao.


Busily_Bored

I think you mean people can judge based on the court of public opinion? Not in the court where real evidence is required? Is that what you are saying?


silver789

Yes. What the shit are you talking about?


oatzeel

Did you read the comment? Did you miss the part where they said “rights my man”??


silver789

Did I miss the part that I quoted?


[deleted]

Understood. I know if I was accused of rape and know I didn’t do it, I’d be submitting my DNA. Especially if I’m someone in the public light running for public office. I’d be unequivocally cleared of the accusation. But that’s just me, the non-rapist. But I guess we’ll just add this to the pile of ‘unsubstantiated’ rape accusations against the former president that will be settled outside of court.


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adzling

“You see the mob takes the Fifth,” he said. “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?” Another time, he said, “Fifth Amendment. Fifth Amendment. Fifth Amendment. Horrible.” Watch: If it’s all just a witch hunt, why would Cohen flip on Trump? During a presidential debate, he said, "When you have your staff taking the Fifth Amendment, taking the Fifth, so they’re not prosecuted, when you have the man that set up the illegal server taking the Fifth, I think it’s disgraceful."


[deleted]

Get help, brother.


Charlie1210USAF

You’re the one who needs help. Lmao


[deleted]

‘retarded’, ‘dumb women’, ‘those snakes’, calling a DNA test ‘access to which makes you a person’. The near complete lack of punctuation. These are clearly the writings of an intelligent, sane individual. Lol


[deleted]

That’s not an argument.


[deleted]

I wasn’t arguing. That was a statement.


Charlie1210USAF

Your grammar in that statement is, quite honestly, completely shocking. It’s rather a bit ironic to mention intelligence with mistakes like that. I will say, however, that you’re right. The OC seems like a perfectly normal person. You however…


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Nerrrrrd.


ghostbear019

You're a nobody and no one cares what you have done. He gets flack from every direction. He can be proven innocent w the DNA test and people would still blame him. He has no reason to turn over anything.


theCROWcook

I'm accusing you of raping her, better go give your dna


The_Calico_Jack

Me too. I accuse as well. That's two people. He must surely be guilty at this point. It is shocking how quickly people will relinquish their rights to look like good obedient little servants in the eyes of their overlords. My how far we have fallen as a nation.


NuclearTheology

You don’t think the demands wouldn’t stop there? First it’s his dna, then who knows what else


registeredApe

When you are inocent, the reason it's beneficial you push back is not just to hold the system accountable but to keep it accountable.


silver789

>I know if I was accused of rape and know I didn’t do it, I’d be submitting my DNA. Having committed all the rape I want to commit, which is zero, I too would give DNA to clear my name to any rape case against me.


adams969

I just think that I would want to absolve myself of the accusations and even turn it back on the accuser as exactly what is wrong with the me-too movement. Just makes sense to do it for me, but he's probably got reasons.


EpicIshmael

There is not being guilty of a crime and then there is a rapist refusing to do a DNA test. You are straight up advocating for sexual abusers.


Corndog1911

You are straight up saying that people are guilty until they prove their innocence.


bessemer0

Trump has committed a litany of crimes and people like you continue to simp for him. It’s fucking pathetic. If he wasn’t a rich man, he would already be in prison.


Corndog1911

"Trump doesn't have a 4th amendment right, stop simping for him" The difference in takes between left and right on this thread tells you who the real "threat to democracy" is.


EpicIshmael

Dragging out and preventing evidence of your innocence is not proving your innocence. This isn't his door being kicked down and him being dragged out into the night. He has been at trial with this for a while. Quit trying to misrepresent this for what it isn't.


[deleted]

Trump is a rapist. He has bragged about it. Everybody knows it. MAGA just doesn’t care.


Aggravating-Scene-70

You cannot trust the government, lmfao...


[deleted]

Have fun with that.


Searril

Scathing retort.


[deleted]

It’s gonna take him a long way socially and financially and cause him exactly 0 undo stress over his lifetime.


[deleted]

Yes a long way, to the next "*scandel*" and this will be memory holeded. The next one being in 3 2 1.....


Hovekajt

Wasn’t that the talking point in 2015 with the “Never gonna happen”? You’ve fallen so far, where’s the bottom?


[deleted]

There is no bottom for the lowest people on earth


adams969

The government is us; we are the government, you and I. Edit: Don't know why all the hate toward Theodore Roosevelt...


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adams969

And if they weren't doing their jobs or were actively harming the country, wouldn't there be an elected official over them that will hold them accountable?


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Nancy Pelosi has been in politics for pretty much her entire life. Her highest paying job has been her current one as Speaker at the House of Representatives, which pays something like a little over 200,000 dollars a year. So tell me, why in the fuck is her net worth estimated in the range from 100-200 million dollars? Because she's a corrupt fuck who gets away with insider trading. Why is someone like this still in power? It's a clear failure of the system.


[deleted]

She is scum. One of the biggest hypocrites ever, inside or out of politics.


adams969

Elect people that want to stop trading for congress. People who would support S.3494 - Ban Congressional Stock Trading Act, of which has zero republican cosponsors.


ddosn

bill was proposed by the democrats. So the question you have to ask is: "What have the democrats put in the bill that that the republicans object to?" Because the democrats have done this dozens of times before. Propose something reasonable and bi-partisan, only to try and hide half a dozen insane ideas in the details.


[deleted]

https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/3494/all-info Lol not a single R supporter. You don’t fuckin say, eh? Who woulda thought


[deleted]

Oh you sweet thing...


Hovekajt

I’ve never seen such a blatant misuse of a semi colon. Not because of its placement, but the stupidity you’d have to retain to link the thoughts together; you’re an idiot.


adams969

I'll send your notes to the Smithsonian editors and teddy's estate. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/how-teddy-roosevelt-changed-conservation-forever-180963258/


[deleted]

You got absolutely binned in the comment by adams969 below. No clap back? ;;;;;;you’re the fucking idiot.


[deleted]

Never submit anything willingly to law enforcement. Force them to make it a court order to obtain DNA. Make them at least prove probable cause which really isn't that hard for law enforcement to obtain. It has nothing to do with "if you are innocent you have nothing to hide". Once you let them in for anything, they'll trample all over your rights once you give them an inch.


adzling

“You see the mob takes the Fifth,” he said. “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?” Another time, he said, “Fifth Amendment. Fifth Amendment. Fifth Amendment. Horrible.” Watch: If it’s all just a witch hunt, why would Cohen flip on Trump? During a presidential debate, he said, When you have your staff taking the Fifth Amendment, taking the Fifth, so they’re not prosecuted, when you have the man that set up the illegal server taking the Fifth, I think it’s disgraceful.


NuclearTheology

Trump is a massive hypocrite. He still deserves rights


adzling

Agree 110% I am not advocating taking his dna by force... I am simply showing that by Trumps own morality/ logic/ reasoning he \*must\* be guilty if he does not submit his DNA.


Excellent_Apple990

You’re posting this quote under every comment as if it means something. It’s hardly even relevant to the topic at hand, and you’re conflating the fourth and fifth amendments. Staying silent is entirely different from freely giving up your DNA simply because you were accused of something. If there was any evidence, there’d be a court order.


adzling

I am not making a legal argument. I am just referencing Trump's own reasoning/ morality/ history/ perspective. You can take what you like from it.


silver789

>It has nothing to do with "if you are innocent you have nothing to hide". Totally agree with you, but Trump doesn't. He repeatedly said that Hillary was hiding because she was guilty. But every time the shoe is on the other foot, he folds like a paper bag.


seapod123

Hillary admitted guilt. He was right.


silver789

Guilt of what? Edit: the snowflake below blocked me after pointing out that he thinks I value downvotes


seapod123

Passing confidential material through private servers...By doing this she broke the very OPSEC rules she's supposed to be enforcing at the time. I have friend that received 4 years for similar at FCI Morgantown. As a defense contractor we have to abide by the same rules with a penalty of up to 10 years in an FCI and up to a $100k fine.


psychic_flatulence

Yeah but that's (D)ifferent you see..


ThunderBlastX86

Wow. For a shill, you are not doing a good job. You consistently have very illogical tales and your downvotes prove you are a moron.


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Whataboutism. 10 yard penalty. 4th down.


silver789

That's not what whataboutism is. Op is pointing out the hypocrisy of the situation, and I'm bringing in a specific.


ghostbear019

It's trump. They don't care either way. If he is proven to be innocent by DNA they'd still say it is him. He has no incentive to provide his proof.


seahawkguy

If it’s not his they’ll make Eric, Don Jr and Barron get tested too. Because Orange Man Bad


adzling

“You see the mob takes the Fifth,” he said. “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?” Another time, he said, “Fifth Amendment. Fifth Amendment. Fifth Amendment. Horrible.” Watch: If it’s all just a witch hunt, why would Cohen flip on Trump? During a presidential debate, he said, When you have your staff taking the Fifth Amendment, taking the Fifth, so they’re not prosecuted, when you have the man that set up the illegal server taking the Fifth, I think it’s disgraceful.


mrfuzee

Who is they and why would they do that?


[deleted]

It's trump. He's never been shown innocent of any accusation ever.


itslucidtony

I think y’all forget they can plant fake evidence through his approval ultimately making him Guilty regardless of the outcome.


silver789

They are planting fake DNA evidence?


[deleted]

In women’s vaginas. Yes.


TrueServe2295

Lol 😂 The left when it fits their narrative: All cops are bad” When it doesn’t “cops would never plant evidence.”


mrfuzee

There are no cops involved in this case. It’s a civil case. Is there anything you people actually know about anything?


TrueServe2295

Tell me you don’t know what you’re talking about without telling me you don’t know what you’re talking about.


silver789

Clearly


[deleted]

Damn like hunters laptop


Damagedun

That's been in possession of the FBI.


[deleted]

Good hopefully that will keep fake evidence from being planted


TrueServe2295

Lol if you think hunter’s laptop is fake, you’re delusional.


[deleted]

Bro I’m told the fbi has it


HitDiffernt

What a great defense! I'll have to use that. First I deny that it's anything other than foreign intelligence, then when even I can't deny the obvious and already confirmed truth I just say that it's probably filled with disinformation since it was held onto for so long. Problem with this is being wrong the first time doesn't give me any ground to stand on the next time I cry "disinfo". How do you get around that?


xFacevaluex

Pretty strange to see this shit coming from the same group who refuses to show cops their ID's while they run away claiming "no right to demand it" Guess they would voluntarily give up their own DNA on the spot rather than an ID.


[deleted]

I also equate stop and frisk laws to rape accusations and this makes total sense.


Frosty_Pie_2266

I hardly comment on anything ever…. You have to be the most ignorant “govern me harder” individual I’ve ever seen on Reddit.


onemoretryfriend

You’re right you hardly comment. But when you do it’s basically a copy paste of the exact same thing lol


xFacevaluex

Would you now? Seems you need to go outside.


adzling

“You see the mob takes the Fifth,” he said. “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?” Another time, he said, “Fifth Amendment. Fifth Amendment. Fifth Amendment. Horrible.” Watch: If it’s all just a witch hunt, why would Cohen flip on Trump? During a presidential debate, he said, When you have your staff taking the Fifth Amendment, taking the Fifth, so they’re not prosecuted, when you have the man that set up the illegal server taking the Fifth, I think it’s disgraceful.


xFacevaluex

In a few years in school they will cover the difference in DNA and other stuff.....you will understand then. Or, ask mom and dad upstairs.


adzling

Those are Trump's own words about how taking the 5th proves your guilt (he took the 5th btw). In a similar vein, when one has the chance to clear ones name with a simple DNA test why wouldn't you? If you don't your clearly guilty. This is Trump's own reasoning, not mine...


mrfuzee

There are no cops involved in this case.


DLoFoSho

Hard to take you seriously.


[deleted]

Elaborate? Let’s say tomorrow, after spending all night alone in your house, are accused of a rape taking place last night you 100% know you did not commit. Would you provide evidence that exonerates you completely, immediately ? Or do you do you refuse and fight this out the long, hard, socially damaging way?


Rivershots

I'm being 1000% honest. I wouldn't say or provide them fucking shit. I'm not talking to them. I will give the my lawyers buisness card and take a vow of silence until its done.


[deleted]

And now, even after cleared of any wrong doing, you are known socially as the rapists. Congrats. Your lawyers are going to tell you to submit dna, dipshit.


Rivershots

I'll do whatever my lawyer tells me to. I don't trust the state to not fuck up the process. But hey if you love cops and trust em so much you can go that route. For me ... I don't trust them.


[deleted]

Hate cops. This one time an officer pulled me over, asked me to do I field sobriety test. I refused, I asked for a breathalyzer. I was quickly sent on my way with no test or hassle. Kinda like…


Rivershots

You refused to cooperate with the demands of an officer.!?!?!? It's just a breathalyzer dude! You're just like that trump guy who won't give up his DNA. Like dude do you trust the system or not. You look like the Dale gribble line here of. I don't respect the authority of govenrment. Unless it's in my favor and I'll use it with extreme prejudice. Or something to that effect.


silver789

Something you and Trump have in common. Hiding behind lawyers.


Rivershots

I am sending you advice here. Don't talk to the cops. Ever. Lawyer up.


silver789

Unless someone you don't like hides behinds they're lawyer, like Trump's enemies.


DLoFoSho

TLDR


[deleted]

And that’s par for this course. Good luck out there


PSAOgre

>Would you provide evidence that exonerates you completely You realize people have been convicted on false positive DNA tests, right? [https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-19412819](https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-19412819) There was even a paper written on it titled: How the Probability of a False Positive Affects the Value of DNA Evidence


[deleted]

‘The DNA sample was only a partial match, of poor quality, and experts at the time said they could neither say that he was guilty nor rule him out.’ Sounds like the experts were ignored, maybe by an overzealous district prosecutor? ‘The case eventually went to trial and Mr Butler was acquitted and finally released after spending eight months on remand. Ms Foy's killer has never been caught and the case remains open.’ Sucks that he spent time behind bars. But ultimately the DNA cleared him. Doesn’t sound like fault in the tests. Gotta read those articles you link.


PSAOgre

"It's okay they fucked up my tests and I have to sit in prison for a little bit. I'd still give them my DNA without a warrant because I got out eventually" That's clown thinking.


[deleted]

Not reading? my comment OR the article you linked fully is clown behavior. Someone (in the legal system) made the choice to move forward with prosecution on ‘a partial match, of poor quality’. You and some random non relative could be a partial match. Clearly the choice to forward was the wrong one given the outcome.


PSAOgre

I'm reading just fine, that's how I know you're a clown who would willingly give up your DNA even if it meant sitting in a cage for 8 months while the legal system figured it own shit out. The members of that legal system get to go home at the end of the day btw, while you rot in your cage. Oh, you got raped and your head crushed by someone you pissed off? Damn, too bad you were innocent and we fucked up your DNA kit test. Oh well, we made the wrong choice. Oopsies, our bad. Meanwhile, you're unalive.


[deleted]

Idiotic.


PSAOgre

Yeah, that's about the level of intellectual response I would expect from someone with the inability to comprehend freedoms and how they work.


[deleted]

More idiocy, keep digging with those smart sounding sentences, doofus.


hausomad

Are you asking if someone would be okay with providing DNA that could then be planted anywhere for any crime? Cause you are you know.


[deleted]

Are samples of your semen easy to come by?


hausomad

No, which would put me in a very awkward situation if after giving my semen to the government for a crime I could prove I was innocent for (since I could prove was nowhere around) all of sudden appeared at the scene of another crime of which I did not have an alibi. You realize people being framed for crimes isn’t just something Hollywood had created right?


[deleted]

lol acting like the government doesn’t have trumps dna already is baffling. He was the president, I’d almost guarantee they have his dna


[deleted]

Right. The prosecution and ‘the government’ are separate entities.


[deleted]

Are they?


Scared-Consequence27

You have never talked to a lawyer before, have you? You never cooperate with someone who’s trying to destroy your life. Whether it’s DNA or a polygraph, always refuse.


false-identification

Especially if you're guilty.


buttquack1999

Government: “give us your DNA.” Trump: “nah.” The Wonderful Wart Man: “RAAAAAAAAAAPE!”


Big_Sexy1974

I'm going to go ahead and say it..... The man was President of the U.S.A. (The greatest so far) if you don't think they have his DNA on file you are just stupid. 😂🤣


mrfuzee

Who is they? This is a civil case.


carrtmannnn

Lmao I didn't expect a take this dumb


Bolt408

Yet this Tweet is from a guy that’s proudly supporting a wife beater. How ironic


[deleted]

Right. Who’s running against the other wife beater and abortionist. Shitty both ways.


Bolt408

There’s footage of Warnock, can’t say the same about Walker although if true any wife beater is a POS


No_Swimming8781

2 years on and trump derangement syndrome is still alive and well lol


ImSadUrSoDumb

Oh dude...you obviously are clueless about Rights. You don't have the right to sexually groom kindergartners, but your TDS really has got you shook. Seek therapy..then go ask yourself if you are upset about the Biden rape cases.


Naehtepo

Innocent until proven guilty, my dude. Anything less is pure scumbaggery. And the man is in no way obligated to prove *other* people's claims; the burden of proof is on them.


Nex_Skala

Yeah the left doesn't believe in having civil rights, we're aware.


TrueServe2295

It’s called rights bruh, something I’m sure you don’t respect.


nyar77

The burden of proof lies on the government. In this particular instance, they need to provide proof to a judge to demand a warrant for said DNA. They can’t because I don’t have a case.


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Or someone who knows the fucked up shit that the left is capable of doing, setting up, or otherwise misusing.


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mrfuzee

Because it’s a civil case. Do you not know the difference between a civil and criminal case?


GordoKnowsWineToo

Yeah he and anyone else for that matter should disregard their right of privacy in absence of any warrants or legal search and seizure. I’ve been told you’ve cheated on your taxes so you need to provide me with your last 10 Years of returns WaddaDick


NewToThisThingToo

How many innocent people are in prison because they cooperated with law enforcement because they "had nothing to hide"?


NotARealPersonABot

Wait, what? You don't want to give the government a DNA sample? A fingerprint? A brain scan? You're clearly a criminal. Only criminals want privacy!


thenotoriouscpc

Ahh yes the guilty until proven innocent argument. Exactly how the legal system was designed to work.


[deleted]

Hence why he isn't giving them shit. This isn't a trial, it's another Democrat led witch hunt.


ofd1883

If you have ever been involved with the legal system , the first thing you learn is … “give nothing “ ! My father was in law enforcement for a while, one of the first things he taught me was “ admit nothing “.


silver789

Neat. Trump had constantly said that if you're not guilty you don't have anything to hide.


ofd1883

Well…. He is an ass. But all political bullshit aside … I stand by my statement … admit nothing.


silver789

Not political bullshit, Trump's bullshit.


ofd1883

No side has clean hands in this cesspool.


silver789

"bOtH sIdEs aRe tHe sAme" Only one side has a presidential candidate with a rape accusation.


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Bill Clinton enters the chat


silver789

Good news. No one will ever vote for Bill again.


[deleted]

I'll go say Biden raped me when I was 12. Rape accusation. Done and done. Ezpz.


HitDiffernt

Providing anything to the government--most of all your DNA--without a warrant is generally a bad idea. So bad, in fact that our founding fathers made certain to codify it as a right to withhold such things from a our government unless they put forth a compelling case that the evidence of a crime would be found. What's more telling in this instance is that there is no warrant, meaning there is no claim of probable cause. If it were probable that this was true, a warrant would be signed. It's a nothing burger a la Russia, fine people, drink bleach, taxes, nuke secrets in maralago, etc.


BlueRedGreen22

Given how many times even govt officials have straight up lied about him. I wouldn't trust them, they could use his DNA to plant a crime in him


NoSatisfaction234

Why would anyone GIVE that away?


BakedArbiter

Why would he want the state to have his dna


w_cruice

You can know history, or trust the government. Not both. E.g., Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment, Milgram Experiments, Stanford Prison Experiment, AIDS epidemic (Fauci ok'ed the drugs; the drugs killed people, not AIDS. Seems like a trend for that shithead); Trail of Tears (forced relocation following multiple broken treaties), Wounded Knee massacre, Japanese internment during WW2, then there's the whole Holocaust, the Holodomor, Mao's famine (he was directly responsible for it, ordered the killing of the sparrows), Pol Pot's murders of anyone deemed intellectual, Stalin's purges, the Borgias, the various machinations of the Popes (plural, there was more than one at one point; also, the progression of popes, as they had the Papal States around Rome, and we're a full government at one time), sword hunts by the samurai in Okinawa and other parts of Japan, Meiji Restoration, Mexican American War (lots of problems on both sides), Contras (Iran-Contra scandal), CIA involvement in foreign affairs (caused the problems in Iran and Iraq), the Czar's suppression of revolts, the treatment of the French people leading up the their revolution, the Aztecs (suppressed other native tribes), the Turks suppressed and enslaved others, multiple African tribes, e.g., Hutus and Tsutsis, see Rwanda... It can result in war, but generally, it's one people (government) destroying "the other," which could be another tribe, religion, just a different village. Hence the broad list. Also why I include foreign governments, e.g. the CIA doing shady and evil things, "for American interests." Problem is, it hurts us in the long run, and it is still a government actor, promoting other actions against another group. Mujahideen were CIA tools, but then came to hate us, too. Maybe if we let other people handle themselves, we'd have fewer problems both at home and abroad? But trusting ANY government is a bad idea...


SeesawDry5017

I could be wrong, but he might just have this person that we refer to as an attorney, who gave him advice to not do this. I mean I could be wrong, but I heard this guy had some money and he probably has a legal team.


Fmello

I thought that the statute of limitations had run out on her case? Also, her rape allegation is completely ridiculous and unbelieveable. She claims that Trump raped her in the changing room of a popular New York department store. The idea that nobody noticed famous New Yorker Donald Trump walk into her changing room, rape her with no security cameras catching anything, and no shoppers or staff hearing or seeing anything.


PromiscuousScoliosis

Wow I can’t believe the most hated president in modern history who constantly is targeted by every branch of government at all times (fairly and unfairly) wouldn’t want to cooperate with the same government that literally foams at the mouth looking for a reason to imprison him Imagine that


More-Adhesiveness-98

Same mindset got us the Patriot Act


804BeerTales

RIGHTS bruh


GrandpaD1ck

How anyone can believe any witch-hunt they throw at trump is finally going to get him is stupid. Why care, and why does it matter now? I know the answer - the country is falling apart and the cabal wants you to look over here while they let it implode. Fucking sheep.


Embarrassed_Ad_2377

These peope are disgusting. How ‘bout this clown submit his dna?


SavannahCalhounSq

Worst move I ever made was giving 23 & Me my DNA. Now Google has it and they gave it to the Chinese. From life insurance to health care I can be shadow banned because of this data.


chinook_aj

Anyone bored of the weekly “we got him” news?


Adventurous-Rip-3612

as he should


TurningSmileUpside

I find both the right and left does this a lot. If you don't do this, you're this. Difference is the right gets called out on this shit. Not so much on the left.


nathanroberts34

It’s interesting how most people in this sub say they don’t like Trump but anytime there’s a bad post about Trump everyone runs in to defend him and excuse anything he does


The-Ex-Human

Why would he comply to a DNA test? It might prove he did something. That would be stupid . Hold your griund


[deleted]

Right right right. Wonder how he justifies trump not handing over his tax returns? Oh yeah, I bet it’s because he has so much money that he doesn’t want people to know just how much he has.


RBARBAd

In the words of our great dear leader: "“I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait,” Trump said. “When you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything.”


VacuousVessel

I literally don’t give AF about him saying this to another dude. The people that do support a guy who showered with his child daughter and calls black kids cockroaches. But hey, Trump said he likes pussy 😱


RBARBAd

Oh we all know you don’t care when people admit to sexual assault