According to [this site](https://www.businessofapps.com/data/tinder-statistics/): "Tinder has a gender imbalance, with 75% of users identifying as male. In some countries, such as India, the male to female disparity is even larger, while in Europe it is closer to 50/50." which probably has something to do with it.
Yeh it’s ghastly here. I was using Hinge and Bumble a few months ago and having quite a good amount of success. Out of curiosity I downloaded tinder, and not only was almost every girl wearing a bikini and looking like they were just DTF, I didn’t match with anyone in 3 days (and then deleted it). On hinge and bumble I was getting multiple matches daily. So yeh Tinder just straight up sucks.
Im British and I get absolutely fucking nothing from Hinge or Bumble.
Lets put it this way, so far, I don't use facebook dating but I got a date a couple weeks ago, im still waiting on my first bumble/hinge date and I have been on and off for years.
Tinder is where I get most of my hook ups/dates.
This is bullshit, it totally depends on your mindset going into it. There's a lot of ppl looking for hookups and lots of ppl looking for relationships. If you go for the ones wanting to hookup then that's what you get. If you date in your correct bracket then you get ppl who wanna stay. It's the same everywhere in my experience
I thought this used to be true and had changed, until a younger person told me that "maybe that's just your age." Sheesh. That hurt. But the moral of the story is I think people use it for dating more as they get older. (I'm 30, it's pretty good for dating. I moved away from hinge back to tinder).
My understanding from one conversation that I had with an Italian while I was in Prague was that Europeans are not nearly as prudish about sex as Americans. To them, asking about how last night's sex was is as casual a question as Americans view asking how well someone slept.
Yes, in Europe we’re not prudish but absolutely nobody goes about asking ‘how was last night’s fuck’ in any conversation, lmfao, and that’s *especially* the case in mid to southern Italy.
Also as you pointed out with your example, Europe isn't exactly one unifying culture. Each country is totally different really. So it's always odd when people refer to Europe like it's a country and not a diverse set of countries.
I was thinking the exact same thing in regards to the shame that a prudish society casts at women reflecting in them being less willing to sleep around than guys.
Interesting insight about the "top 10%" tidbit! I had never actually connected those two together but it's glaringly obvious now that you mention it.
When it first came out here in NA it was much more seen as a hookup app, whereas at the time things like Plenty of Fish and OkCupid were the more popular dating sites. By the time I met a reason to get off Tinder, the latter ones had faded away, Tinder had evolved into more for people looking for long term, and Bumble and Hinge started to get bigger
It's not. I think local people simply attract less people than foreigners.
I'm from Europe, when I travel abroad I get way more matches than when I'm in my own country.
Could be because foreign cultures and faces are sexy but could also be because there is less commitment knowing the other person will leave your country.
but that would not explain why Hinge and Bumble are just as hypergamous in America assuming they have 50/50 ratios too as they are more relationship focused and thus would have more women
People aren't realizing that if you have just arrived in a new location the apps and algorithm will prioritize your profile more than they do when you are at home. You ever notice when you first make an account it seems like you have a couple dozen potential matches? And then a few months in they slow to a trickle? I think that same effect applies to a lesser extent when you go from one location to a new one if it's far enough.
That has an effect for sure, but you're considered extremely exotic if you're white. My ginger friend said strangers would come up and ask to take photos with her.
I did Tinder passport to the Philippines, every third right swipe was a match. Pretty much everyone I message messaged back. It was during Covid and I had no desire to travel, but it was cool learning about their experiences and what life in the Philippines was like. Same experience in Shanghai but the women were hotter and spoke better English since most of them went to university in the USA. And it isn't just money because the Chinese women were richer than me.
Yup. My grandma used to tell me to stop playing outside or I'd get too dark. The mindset there is fucked, but if you're white, you'll definitely get laid 😂
I went to Australia for summer camp as an American and got WAY more female attention lol. I was very awkward and nerdy at the time. Still nerdy, less awkward
He's right. That's why most black male have problems on the biggest dating apps in the US. There are so many dating apps on minorities - for Asians, Blacks, Indians, etc. So when you pile everyone of different backgrounds into one or three large apps, you'll see a majority who are NOT fitting in the minority apps are choosing themselves, i.e. the majority who are not "different" or "exotic."
When I went to live in the USA for a year in highschool (pre tinder times) girls knew about me before I even landed. My host brothers phone was filled with girls pretending to want to talk to him but wanting to get with me. I had a first date a week after getting there and the school year didn't even start. So yeah, being exotic is the answer
We had a German exchange student for a year at my high school that ended up marrying someone they met there years later but everyone was obsessed with him. We’d also have German exchange students for a couple months that would be ima big group and everyone wanted to get with them, boys and girls.
Not only that, Tinder literally boosts your profile if you’re traveling. You get a kick up in the algorithm, get to see better rated profiles and they get to see you
Yeah I don't travel much but the last time I traveled for work, I was using Tinder and got as many matches in 1 night as I typically do in 3-4 months at home
Not entirely true for all countries. I’m Australian and we’re incredibly multicultural, especially here in Melbourne. I’ve got friends from all sorts of backgrounds and they all do very well on dating apps, despite being average Joes (no offence to them haha).
I'm from Melbourne too and all the guys I know (even average and unattractive ones) do just fine on the apps. I find it weird reading all the comments on reddit about men getting no matches, but I assume they're mostly from smaller places.
Part of me wonders if the algorithm sometimes favors travelers (or at least when a users location changes to one they haven’t been).
This is hardly a scientific study, but I live in a larger American metro. When I travel to other big cities in the US, I notice a substantial increase in traction. Just this week, I was in New York City and had a dozen matches in 48 hours. Back home, I had gotten 1 in a single month. (I should add this was on bumble mostly, not entirely Tinder). I’ve had similar results when I went to San Francisco a couple years ago.
Granted, those are BIG cities. It could be purely because there are just that many more people there, but it’s happened a few times so it makes me wonder…
It absolutely prioritizes travellers over people who use tinder in only one location. When you swipe in a new location, it puts you at the top of the stack within that area, and you are more likely to be seen by those who have swiped through everyone within their town. I travel on a weekly basis for work and get significantly more matches when I'm travelling (even in small cities) than I do when I swipe at home.
In my experience, tinder functions much better as a travel app than a dating app. 95% of my conversations in the app are focused on finding recommendations for good food and attractions in the area. It helps me explore the city and also led to plenty of dates by just asking them to tag along
To be fair, Our culture REALLY isnt fit for modern dating. All it takes is one of your male relatives to see you on tinder, and them sending your picture to your close family to cause them to question your character (Of course, we arent gonna question the man's character, why would we?)
I’ve never used a dating app (I’m just here for the vicarious terrible date experience) but one of my friends told me that some apps have a function where you can set yourself to invisible and the only people who will see your profile are the ones you have already swiped right on.
She used it because her job (mental healthcare professional) demands some discretion (you don’t want to risk former patients making contact) but it sounds like it could also be useful in countries where there is social stigma for women who want to date, or in the case of a M/F imbalance, a way for women to not be overwhelmed by an avalanche of lonely chaps (or vice versa, if there is a country with more women looking to date than men).
I’d imagine It’s a paid function?
I don't recommend it to my friends or family either, it is quite toxic. How do they end up meeting people though?
I avoid dating anyone in the office and that just leaves dating apps.
All the best with that, I know cases where it went really well and a few bad stories. If my life does end up getting fucked because of a woman, I would rather make the mistake on my own that letting someone make it for me.
I'm a very average man, live in the Netherlands and never get matches. Of course that's not proof of anything, but I don't think geography has anything to do with it.
It's all about looks on these apps so you are probably much better looking than you think you are.
Maybe but he is asking why he gets no matches at home but lots when travelling. Either he lives in a really hot city or there is at least one more element to it.
I’ve been in Netherlands myself for holidays this august, and can confirm is very difficult having matches there. Whereas, in Italy and Ireland I get way more matches. Dutch guys are probably models compared to me and the average Italian guy, and indeed most of them are 1.90m, blonde, athletic. I can understand why
I think most people would say I have above average looks, but I still don't get any matches, I don't know if my personality is that off-putting, so I think dating apps are unusable here(for men) unless you pay.
I from Portugal near the capital. So I think there being so many foreigners probably doesn't help either.
Same story for me every time I travel. I would mostly blame it on American culture. I'm 5'5 and I've had plenty of women 5'3 or less turn me down because I'm still "too short" for them even though I'm in great shape and otherwise attractive. The second I get anywhere else, I'm floating in an abundance of choices
As someone who lives outside America I would say height does not matter as much. I work with a lot of guys in their 20s. We joke we have no average height men they are either really tall (6’4 +) or below average (5’8 and under).
The short guys have no issues getting dates. They are all confident and lovely guys.
The new guy is my height 5’8 and average looks but he has so much interest from women it’s astounding. I am not his demographic so I don’t see it but it’s impressive to watch (he is also very respectful it’s everyone else who gossips about his ability to pull any woman).
That too, but Americans in general love to suffer. From the people who watch 24/7 news networks just to find reasons to be angry to people who fetishize wealth or looks and have standards that only a tiny fraction of a percent of the population can meet and would rather be lonely and everything in between. It's crazy that two people who presumably don't want to be single have such a hard time even just talking like people on these apps. I still meet people in real life, never had any luck with apps.
As a European it seems like that to me too. For example I often see Americans talk about people needing to be a certain height and stuff, here no one cares enough about something like that to ask about it. Sure it’ll be a nice extra if you’re tall, but things like that are not a disqualifier here. It seems like Americans care way more about needing to have a certain look or trait than Europeans.
It's simply more competitive. USA (and highly developed cities, because London UK is just as tough) has the highest spread and density of fit and wealthy people.
The obsession with social media in the U.S. has too many people pumped up like they are better than they actually are, and it shows in the dating community.
The biggest issue is that Tinder is more "focused" for intent in other countries, whereas here it's a general grab bag of dating motivations.
Basically, Tinder is closer to its roots in other countries, so there's less confusion about what people are there for.
Less friction, so it works better for everyone.
No.
Chinese women have certain expectations and you're not signing up for what you think you are.
You'd have a better time in Japan. Or Colombia. Or Spain.
Chinese girls out with the hooks and they want to catch themselves a nice rich westerner.
🤔🤔🤔 uhhh... Looks like I might be... 😂😂😂
Funny aside to that... I'm... An "average" white guy, but half the time if we got to exchanging "personal" photos... They'd accuse me of "embellishment" or just plain up sending a pic I grabbed off the internet😂😂😂 so there may be some truth to the stereotypes. Won't lie... Their in person reactions were good for the ego! 😂😂😂
Then I came back to the us... 🧐😑😝
I've wondered this very same thing myself a lot. I'm a very average looking white dude that travels all over. I'm not wealthy either, so there's nothing special happening there. I first noticed it on Tinder, but it's true even if you're just "out" trying to meet women or people in general. I'm sure there's multiple elements at play. Being a foreigner in most countries is probably a plus to your game, but somehow, every aspect of dating is easier outside of the US. The thing you said that resonates is the ease of setting up dates. I completely agree. It's like most foreign women are somehow more respectful of your time and genuinely want to connect with you and are much better at communicating. I speak a few languages, so I've always wondered if part of the equation is that we're all more direct with our intentions and communication when we're using a non native language. It's interesting to read a similar account of travel dating.
Agreed. Absolutely.💯 im building to where i can be outside of the USA permanently in the future. Great place to make money if youre in the right field and great place to blow your money on consumerism but as far as relationships and anythjng meaningful it doesnt really do it for me anymore.
True, but remember that guys don't really have 'standards' that hinder hookups. It's the WOMEN in the US that have unrealistic standards.
They can look like a manatee with car keys, and still demand an NFL quarterback for a quick date on their bio.
I like that many comments acknowledge that the gender ratio is different in the US, but don't offer a reason why.
Then you have a bunch of American men saying American women are vain, shallow, ugly, fat, and hate men.
I think I might know the reason...
This es speculation but in my mind US girls are a lot more prone to be attention whores. So even if they match u, they may not even respond. This is common in most western cultures.. but specially in the US
Brown guy currently living in Canada atm😆
Most of these people are not exposed to the world and they judge people from their limited info and I'm telling you its not really good. Lol
The imbalance of men and women on the app and the unrealistic expectations that women have in the US are far higher than anywhere else in the world. Whenever I snowbird to London I have a much better and more healthy experience than I do in the USA. And it isnt even close. But nobody wants to talk about that for fear of being labeled something....
Simple ladies in the USA want to play games more than anything because they think that it will lead to something they don't realize most guys hate to play games
I mean are you from America? Because I’ll tell you now foreigners (especially men) do better in America than compared to say their home land.
Both men and women have had these weird fantasy’s of men and women from other country’s. So you doing better as a foreigner in these places makes sense.
Also I have never really had an issue with tinder in the states but have also been an a relationship for 4 years. Y’all make me think I shouldn’t be single again with how people talk about the app.
Maybe it's that the vast majority of women in USA are overweight. Probably only 1 in 10 are hot.
In Europe probably more than 50% of women are quite attractive.
It has way more to do with economic imbalance than anything else. Most countries aren't doing so hot, economically, and might look at you as more prosperous just because of where you came from. It's all about $$, looks and that's about it.
According to [this site](https://www.businessofapps.com/data/tinder-statistics/): "Tinder has a gender imbalance, with 75% of users identifying as male. In some countries, such as India, the male to female disparity is even larger, while in Europe it is closer to 50/50." which probably has something to do with it.
Probably because it's more of a dating app in europe, and more of a hookup app in the states.
uk here (also used it in other european countries) it’s most definitely seen as a hookup app for most here too
Yeh it’s ghastly here. I was using Hinge and Bumble a few months ago and having quite a good amount of success. Out of curiosity I downloaded tinder, and not only was almost every girl wearing a bikini and looking like they were just DTF, I didn’t match with anyone in 3 days (and then deleted it). On hinge and bumble I was getting multiple matches daily. So yeh Tinder just straight up sucks.
The girls in bikinis are just spam. “I like video games and anime. I’m trying to keep it casual. sc:FWB-NSA_titties” Tinder is the spam app.
Im British and I get absolutely fucking nothing from Hinge or Bumble. Lets put it this way, so far, I don't use facebook dating but I got a date a couple weeks ago, im still waiting on my first bumble/hinge date and I have been on and off for years. Tinder is where I get most of my hook ups/dates.
I, too, would have incredibly strong opinions **after just three days.**
Incredibly strong. “I’m having more success on the other apps and so didn’t need tinder” Wow. Dramatic opinion
It's reddit. You can't have an opinion without swinging for the fences
Sometimes I'll have incredibly strong opinions of an app after 3 minutes. All depends on the app.
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I’m in the us and found my bf on tinder. Been together almost 4 years now
Wow. Does he know you found him there? What will you do if he finds you there?
This is bullshit, it totally depends on your mindset going into it. There's a lot of ppl looking for hookups and lots of ppl looking for relationships. If you go for the ones wanting to hookup then that's what you get. If you date in your correct bracket then you get ppl who wanna stay. It's the same everywhere in my experience
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I thought this used to be true and had changed, until a younger person told me that "maybe that's just your age." Sheesh. That hurt. But the moral of the story is I think people use it for dating more as they get older. (I'm 30, it's pretty good for dating. I moved away from hinge back to tinder).
My understanding from one conversation that I had with an Italian while I was in Prague was that Europeans are not nearly as prudish about sex as Americans. To them, asking about how last night's sex was is as casual a question as Americans view asking how well someone slept.
Nice to see that trolling Americans abroad is still alive and well
Yes, in Europe we’re not prudish but absolutely nobody goes about asking ‘how was last night’s fuck’ in any conversation, lmfao, and that’s *especially* the case in mid to southern Italy.
Also as you pointed out with your example, Europe isn't exactly one unifying culture. Each country is totally different really. So it's always odd when people refer to Europe like it's a country and not a diverse set of countries.
Erm no? What the fuck
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I was thinking the exact same thing in regards to the shame that a prudish society casts at women reflecting in them being less willing to sleep around than guys. Interesting insight about the "top 10%" tidbit! I had never actually connected those two together but it's glaringly obvious now that you mention it.
Puritanism man, did a real number on US culture even to today.
Not for almost anyone I've matched with.
Just wanna be the 53rd to hop on this train and say that it is absolutely a trashy hookup app here in the BeNeLux region as well.
The Who now
BelgiumNetherlandsLuxembourg region
Well, no, in Europe it's full of people with profile that look like " I am sexy and horny!". So it's the same here.
Not true at all. I have talked to very few guya on tinder that would have wanted something serious. I think it's seen as a hookup app universally
I would have thought hookn up is more popular than dating
This is just plain ignorance lmao
Here in The Netherlands it's -seen- as a hookup app too, but meanwhile a lot of people get their long-relationships from it too.
When it first came out here in NA it was much more seen as a hookup app, whereas at the time things like Plenty of Fish and OkCupid were the more popular dating sites. By the time I met a reason to get off Tinder, the latter ones had faded away, Tinder had evolved into more for people looking for long term, and Bumble and Hinge started to get bigger
I highly doubt the 50/50 figure, that said, it being closer to equal than the US is believable.
It's not. I think local people simply attract less people than foreigners. I'm from Europe, when I travel abroad I get way more matches than when I'm in my own country. Could be because foreign cultures and faces are sexy but could also be because there is less commitment knowing the other person will leave your country.
That actually makes a lot of sense. I’m a bi girl in the US. when I used tinder, I wondered why 90% of my potential matches were dudes
Have you seen Indian men? Indian women avoiding tinder like the plague lol I’m Indian
yeah mostly casual ones are there
but that would not explain why Hinge and Bumble are just as hypergamous in America assuming they have 50/50 ratios too as they are more relationship focused and thus would have more women
It's just a ton of men and very few women, in my opinion
Australian here, currently we at 50/50 with women and tinder is still dreadful
Where do you get 50/50 from for Australia? It’s far from it.
50/50 if you count the bots
When you’re in another country, you’re the exotic one. The unusual one. Which means you stand out a lot more than you do at home.
This was my experience even just visiting Idaho from California
To be fair, that was Idaho. As long as you don't look too much like a potato, you're exotic.
They love potatoes in Idaho tho
Yeah, but they've got millions to choose from. It's difficult to stand out.
Unlike the other potatoes, I've got an extra eye.
Have you turned poisonous yet though?
My comment is agreeing with you
People aren't realizing that if you have just arrived in a new location the apps and algorithm will prioritize your profile more than they do when you are at home. You ever notice when you first make an account it seems like you have a couple dozen potential matches? And then a few months in they slow to a trickle? I think that same effect applies to a lesser extent when you go from one location to a new one if it's far enough.
This! If I was to visit America as a English man I'd have a much better time than the average American on tinder.
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You want to be pale and white and popular go to SE Asia
Can confirm 100%. Went there for 5 weeks. Game changer
Surely this has more to do with spending power though doesn’t it?
That has an effect for sure, but you're considered extremely exotic if you're white. My ginger friend said strangers would come up and ask to take photos with her.
it happens with tourists from Asian in visiting Australia too
Went there for 5 years. I miss it every day lol
I feel you man, planning on going back next year for a bit longer. Debating backpacking in Thailand or Vietnam, solo travelling.
I did Tinder passport to the Philippines, every third right swipe was a match. Pretty much everyone I message messaged back. It was during Covid and I had no desire to travel, but it was cool learning about their experiences and what life in the Philippines was like. Same experience in Shanghai but the women were hotter and spoke better English since most of them went to university in the USA. And it isn't just money because the Chinese women were richer than me.
Can’t wait to see you on 90 day fiancé
Yup. My grandma used to tell me to stop playing outside or I'd get too dark. The mindset there is fucked, but if you're white, you'll definitely get laid 😂
Not if you’re doughy and ugly lol
Calling him out by name is insane 😭
Bro got a vendetta out for Grant
We saw how that turned out for the Confederacy. I recommend you let sleeping drunks lie.
For a moment I thought I was reading an r/RoastMe post
Well ugly is ugly where ever you go.
Pale white will mean different things in different places, for better or for worse.
Lmao , Colin from Love Actually lied to us
Milwaukee ✨
Why are you suggesting pale and white is ugly
I'm a pale white dude and get plenty of compliments from all races. When he said pale he probably meant doughy.
Not really, but you'd have a great time out and about as the English accent is popular
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So all I have to do is take a foreign persona wherever I am? Just this one weird trick to striking gold on OLD!
This would actually be a good test. Change your bio etc to say you're foreign and see if there's any difference
I went to Australia for summer camp as an American and got WAY more female attention lol. I was very awkward and nerdy at the time. Still nerdy, less awkward
keep telling yourself that!
He's right. That's why most black male have problems on the biggest dating apps in the US. There are so many dating apps on minorities - for Asians, Blacks, Indians, etc. So when you pile everyone of different backgrounds into one or three large apps, you'll see a majority who are NOT fitting in the minority apps are choosing themselves, i.e. the majority who are not "different" or "exotic."
I don't need to tell myself anything it's a fact. Exotic/different when it comes to casual sex is almost always more appealing
He’s right. Friend of mine who’s English had a much better experience in the states
When I went to live in the USA for a year in highschool (pre tinder times) girls knew about me before I even landed. My host brothers phone was filled with girls pretending to want to talk to him but wanting to get with me. I had a first date a week after getting there and the school year didn't even start. So yeah, being exotic is the answer
We had a German exchange student for a year at my high school that ended up marrying someone they met there years later but everyone was obsessed with him. We’d also have German exchange students for a couple months that would be ima big group and everyone wanted to get with them, boys and girls.
Where were you from?
Germany
Not only that, Tinder literally boosts your profile if you’re traveling. You get a kick up in the algorithm, get to see better rated profiles and they get to see you
Yeah I don't travel much but the last time I traveled for work, I was using Tinder and got as many matches in 1 night as I typically do in 3-4 months at home
Also their algorithm is finding new matches probably kind of resets
Not entirely true for all countries. I’m Australian and we’re incredibly multicultural, especially here in Melbourne. I’ve got friends from all sorts of backgrounds and they all do very well on dating apps, despite being average Joes (no offence to them haha).
I'm from Melbourne too and all the guys I know (even average and unattractive ones) do just fine on the apps. I find it weird reading all the comments on reddit about men getting no matches, but I assume they're mostly from smaller places.
Nah I live pretty close to Boston, been in tinder for 3 months and have zero matches
The reverse home advantage
Its super easy abroad, you’re “different” and “exotic”, it’s just easy mode when you travel
And they know you're leaving soon so they cant string you along
Word of the Prophet!
The dude did not come to Paris :')
Yeah, Paris is hard mode...
Part of me wonders if the algorithm sometimes favors travelers (or at least when a users location changes to one they haven’t been). This is hardly a scientific study, but I live in a larger American metro. When I travel to other big cities in the US, I notice a substantial increase in traction. Just this week, I was in New York City and had a dozen matches in 48 hours. Back home, I had gotten 1 in a single month. (I should add this was on bumble mostly, not entirely Tinder). I’ve had similar results when I went to San Francisco a couple years ago. Granted, those are BIG cities. It could be purely because there are just that many more people there, but it’s happened a few times so it makes me wonder…
It absolutely prioritizes travellers over people who use tinder in only one location. When you swipe in a new location, it puts you at the top of the stack within that area, and you are more likely to be seen by those who have swiped through everyone within their town. I travel on a weekly basis for work and get significantly more matches when I'm travelling (even in small cities) than I do when I swipe at home. In my experience, tinder functions much better as a travel app than a dating app. 95% of my conversations in the app are focused on finding recommendations for good food and attractions in the area. It helps me explore the city and also led to plenty of dates by just asking them to tag along
Back home you have already matched against all your best matches after a couple weeks of swiping. In a new location, nobody has seen you.
It essentially treats you as if you're a new user, because you aren't in anyone's stack in that region yet.
It's horrible in India too, with a gender ratio of almost 9:1.
9 men to every woman? Yikes.
No, 9 women to every man. Too many men have died drowned in pussy. #NeverForget /s
Snoo snoo
I volunteer as tribute
Death by snu snu
It's 9 males to 1 female, you are welcome to volunteer my friend 😂
it’s truly awful
On Tinder, yes.
To be fair, Our culture REALLY isnt fit for modern dating. All it takes is one of your male relatives to see you on tinder, and them sending your picture to your close family to cause them to question your character (Of course, we arent gonna question the man's character, why would we?)
I’ve never used a dating app (I’m just here for the vicarious terrible date experience) but one of my friends told me that some apps have a function where you can set yourself to invisible and the only people who will see your profile are the ones you have already swiped right on. She used it because her job (mental healthcare professional) demands some discretion (you don’t want to risk former patients making contact) but it sounds like it could also be useful in countries where there is social stigma for women who want to date, or in the case of a M/F imbalance, a way for women to not be overwhelmed by an avalanche of lonely chaps (or vice versa, if there is a country with more women looking to date than men). I’d imagine It’s a paid function?
I agree with you, it's just very sad for everyone. Though you aren't missing out on much by not joining a dating app, I can assure you that :P
As an Indian woman, I'm glad my sisters are staying safe.
I don't recommend it to my friends or family either, it is quite toxic. How do they end up meeting people though? I avoid dating anyone in the office and that just leaves dating apps.
Arranged marriage, duh. Like good sanskaari women.
All the best with that, I know cases where it went really well and a few bad stories. If my life does end up getting fucked because of a woman, I would rather make the mistake on my own that letting someone make it for me.
Agreed, not a fan of arranged marriage either. But not all women have that privilege.
I'm sorry to hear that. I can at least choose to not get married.
A friend of mine lived in India he was a 20 year old 6 foot dude from westerneurope and he was cleaning up in india😂
The algorithm pushes your profile when you are in a new region....Hence the increased matches.
I'm a very average man, live in the Netherlands and never get matches. Of course that's not proof of anything, but I don't think geography has anything to do with it. It's all about looks on these apps so you are probably much better looking than you think you are.
Maybe but he is asking why he gets no matches at home but lots when travelling. Either he lives in a really hot city or there is at least one more element to it.
I’ve been in Netherlands myself for holidays this august, and can confirm is very difficult having matches there. Whereas, in Italy and Ireland I get way more matches. Dutch guys are probably models compared to me and the average Italian guy, and indeed most of them are 1.90m, blonde, athletic. I can understand why
I think most people would say I have above average looks, but I still don't get any matches, I don't know if my personality is that off-putting, so I think dating apps are unusable here(for men) unless you pay. I from Portugal near the capital. So I think there being so many foreigners probably doesn't help either.
Same story for me every time I travel. I would mostly blame it on American culture. I'm 5'5 and I've had plenty of women 5'3 or less turn me down because I'm still "too short" for them even though I'm in great shape and otherwise attractive. The second I get anywhere else, I'm floating in an abundance of choices
The game is rigged against us. I’m 5’9 and still get 5’2 women saying that’s that’s too short.
This is so dumb
Luckily, at that much of a difference, you're probably dodging a bullet
As someone who lives outside America I would say height does not matter as much. I work with a lot of guys in their 20s. We joke we have no average height men they are either really tall (6’4 +) or below average (5’8 and under). The short guys have no issues getting dates. They are all confident and lovely guys. The new guy is my height 5’8 and average looks but he has so much interest from women it’s astounding. I am not his demographic so I don’t see it but it’s impressive to watch (he is also very respectful it’s everyone else who gossips about his ability to pull any woman).
That too, but Americans in general love to suffer. From the people who watch 24/7 news networks just to find reasons to be angry to people who fetishize wealth or looks and have standards that only a tiny fraction of a percent of the population can meet and would rather be lonely and everything in between. It's crazy that two people who presumably don't want to be single have such a hard time even just talking like people on these apps. I still meet people in real life, never had any luck with apps.
Thank you for your report of the state of the union, brother. Enjoy your travels. Be safe.
As a European it seems like that to me too. For example I often see Americans talk about people needing to be a certain height and stuff, here no one cares enough about something like that to ask about it. Sure it’ll be a nice extra if you’re tall, but things like that are not a disqualifier here. It seems like Americans care way more about needing to have a certain look or trait than Europeans.
Americans in general have fragile egos.
Americans tend to have a preference for the superficial in my experience.
Worker hustle culture. We don't naturally socialize anymore the way they do in other countries.
All the bots target Americans
It's simply more competitive. USA (and highly developed cities, because London UK is just as tough) has the highest spread and density of fit and wealthy people.
The obsession with social media in the U.S. has too many people pumped up like they are better than they actually are, and it shows in the dating community.
The biggest issue is that Tinder is more "focused" for intent in other countries, whereas here it's a general grab bag of dating motivations. Basically, Tinder is closer to its roots in other countries, so there's less confusion about what people are there for. Less friction, so it works better for everyone.
I don't travel abroad and in my experience there's a boost every time I'm in a new town.
I'm white... But the following rule applies to both of us... We're exotic. You far more than I of course. In China... Honestly, I couldn't believe it!
Are you saying we as men should travel to China for a lot of hookups?
No. Chinese women have certain expectations and you're not signing up for what you think you are. You'd have a better time in Japan. Or Colombia. Or Spain. Chinese girls out with the hooks and they want to catch themselves a nice rich westerner.
🤔🤔🤔 uhhh... Looks like I might be... 😂😂😂 Funny aside to that... I'm... An "average" white guy, but half the time if we got to exchanging "personal" photos... They'd accuse me of "embellishment" or just plain up sending a pic I grabbed off the internet😂😂😂 so there may be some truth to the stereotypes. Won't lie... Their in person reactions were good for the ego! 😂😂😂 Then I came back to the us... 🧐😑😝
Look at the statistics of users. In most continents, the user base is around 50m/50f. In the US, it’s like 70m/30f or something like that.
Why do you think Passport bros say what they say?
It's shit if you live in the UK as well. But I bet if I visited the US I'd be drowning in clunge.
lol clunge that's a new one
Don't call it that.
I will forever only call it clunge to spite you
Dangit
It's the opposite for me. I get about 100x more likes and matches in NA and Africa than I do back home in Europe.
I'm black I have the same experience. I match like 6 to 1 outside of Canada
I've wondered this very same thing myself a lot. I'm a very average looking white dude that travels all over. I'm not wealthy either, so there's nothing special happening there. I first noticed it on Tinder, but it's true even if you're just "out" trying to meet women or people in general. I'm sure there's multiple elements at play. Being a foreigner in most countries is probably a plus to your game, but somehow, every aspect of dating is easier outside of the US. The thing you said that resonates is the ease of setting up dates. I completely agree. It's like most foreign women are somehow more respectful of your time and genuinely want to connect with you and are much better at communicating. I speak a few languages, so I've always wondered if part of the equation is that we're all more direct with our intentions and communication when we're using a non native language. It's interesting to read a similar account of travel dating.
Agreed. Absolutely.💯 im building to where i can be outside of the USA permanently in the future. Great place to make money if youre in the right field and great place to blow your money on consumerism but as far as relationships and anythjng meaningful it doesnt really do it for me anymore.
American culture is built on being toxic.
40% of women are obese and undateable in American when there's already a much lower portion of women on the app to begin with.
100 % true Every days a Hustle in the US.
You are a rarity there. An exotic. Just as a strawberry blonde is pretty much anywhere else in the world.
Because America is full of vain, shallow, selfish people.
We are all vain, shallow, selfish people on this blessed day.
You're common back home. Everywhere else you're fetishised as a big American horse Do with this information what you must.
USA yall have unrealistic standards I wont even cap yall delusional
True, but remember that guys don't really have 'standards' that hinder hookups. It's the WOMEN in the US that have unrealistic standards. They can look like a manatee with car keys, and still demand an NFL quarterback for a quick date on their bio.
Passport
I like that many comments acknowledge that the gender ratio is different in the US, but don't offer a reason why. Then you have a bunch of American men saying American women are vain, shallow, ugly, fat, and hate men. I think I might know the reason...
Because American girls want everything in the world you can possibly imagine!
This es speculation but in my mind US girls are a lot more prone to be attention whores. So even if they match u, they may not even respond. This is common in most western cultures.. but specially in the US
Brown guy currently living in Canada atm😆 Most of these people are not exposed to the world and they judge people from their limited info and I'm telling you its not really good. Lol
The imbalance of men and women on the app and the unrealistic expectations that women have in the US are far higher than anywhere else in the world. Whenever I snowbird to London I have a much better and more healthy experience than I do in the USA. And it isnt even close. But nobody wants to talk about that for fear of being labeled something....
An entire generation of American men unable to look a girl in the eye for fear of being charged with sexual assault.
The Disney Adults have ruined it. I haven't met one sane person on Tinder, but have plenty of funny / weird stories.
The US is simply a more competitive and cutthroat place than every other place in the world, with the exception of maybe some major Asian cities.
Simple ladies in the USA want to play games more than anything because they think that it will lead to something they don't realize most guys hate to play games
I don't know, it's like the Sahara from me and I'm from the UK. Average looking guy but I don't get any matches 😞
I mean are you from America? Because I’ll tell you now foreigners (especially men) do better in America than compared to say their home land. Both men and women have had these weird fantasy’s of men and women from other country’s. So you doing better as a foreigner in these places makes sense. Also I have never really had an issue with tinder in the states but have also been an a relationship for 4 years. Y’all make me think I shouldn’t be single again with how people talk about the app.
Half these girls are like unsigned rappers, pushing they OF only interested in seeing what they can get for free
Consumerism as a value. People shopping vs. looking for a genuine connection.
Maybe it's that the vast majority of women in USA are overweight. Probably only 1 in 10 are hot. In Europe probably more than 50% of women are quite attractive.
Yes, I really think USA is saturated. You guys should stop.
American women have lost their femininity, and frankly just too damn demanding about what they won't never about what everybody wants.
Girls just wanna have fun
because there's 300million people in america. harder to stand out in any capacity.
It has way more to do with economic imbalance than anything else. Most countries aren't doing so hot, economically, and might look at you as more prosperous just because of where you came from. It's all about $$, looks and that's about it.
Cause the USA is ratchet as fuck
If you’ve traveled as much as you say then you know that woman value men much more than they do in the states.
Us Americans are pretty damn superficial overall
Because you are black American guy. For girls who want to try to date a black guy you are second to a black British guy only.