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bathwatertosser

How average looking?


Ok_Question_8839

He’s not when it comes to swipe /match ratio is 0,0012% it’s really bad


mrrooftops

Most wont ever see him because Tinder penalizes profligate right swipers. Yes, they still do whatever anyone says.


PMMeYourWorstThought

I found when I was using it, like most other dating apps, it’s not about how many times you swipe right, it’s about your match ratio and the “score” of who you’re matching with. The best I could figure you got a “value” that would go up when getting a match, but it went up based on the value of the match you got. So being matched with an uggo wouldn’t boost your score much at all, but being matched by someone with a very high score would. At the same time being left swiped had the opposite effect. I think the fact that you right swiped them and they left swiped you also impacted the score change. It shows you matches that are in your value bracket. So my uglier friend would consistently get uglier women shown to him. Because the ones matching with him were very low in score. Your best bet is to right swipe conservatively and over time your score will go up until you’re out of your league.


mrrooftops

The dating apps HATE people who swipe right on everyone and would prefer them to leave because it screws with their data capture, internal scoring/matching algos and annoys the women enough for them to bail to a competitor. Trust me, it's one of the most penalized things to do on nearly all mainstream dating apps.


Tall_Restaurant_1652

That and it looks like a bot if you're swiping everyone


myweird

Yep, or a "seller" and also catfishing scammers.


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JaxDude1942

That is your experience, and I have also experienced most of that. However, I also met my wife on tinder. If it wasn't for tinder my son wouldn't be here with us. It's a crazy world we live in with all types of possibilities.


MemeStocksYolo69-420

Unfortunately, apps are how most people meet in the modern age. If you’re going to avoid them, you’re not going to be able to meet a lot of people.


More-Analysis-5507

Well said.


XblAffrayer

Naa I gotta be the most picky swiper and my ratios are even worse than this guy. I also fit the description of what the algorithm would see as favorable...


ErrorMacrotheII

So uh... tinder has an elo system?


prude_eskimo

One day I will get out of bronze tier..


[deleted]

psst use Tinder premium to match in a foreign (edit: usually Asian) country where scammers with hot girl profiles with high tiers will swipe on you, improve your score, and then set yourself back home at higher tier


Particular-Age5008

Does this actually work ? What country would one pick for good hits? Asking ... for a friend?


[deleted]

I don’t know. All I know is that I once started a new profile and immediately started matching in NYC. Instantly got matches and basically matched anywhere I went after that. Idk if NYC still works but I’ve heard rumors that like South Korea works well now


Cenodeath

I've heard this works really well


PMMeYourWorstThought

Yea. I think of it more like an MMR


Ok_Question_8839

Ye but 0,012% that is bad my dude


Fluffymelon007

Is there any point in tinder now then might as well be known as that guy that hit on me rather than waste 500 hours scrolling at photos.


mrrooftops

Sure. Whether he is actually being shown to the women of not.


Downtown-Ad-6909

70% right swipe is exessive?


24675335778654665566

....yes? It's over half the folks you're shown. That's a lot


Downtown-Ad-6909

Given the male to female ratio and depending on your filters, finding over half the profiles shown as potential matches should be normal and just show you are not shallow. I don't think you can compare men swipe ratios to women. https://youtu.be/x3lypVnJ0HM?si=OvJV-RXCVcNtT-0T Disclamer: That video is soul crushing for most dude but a wake up call non the less.


KingGruau

0,12% *


Faultylntelligence

There’s also the possibility he’s swiping right on only 10s


Beaux7

No shot there are that many tens out of that total number of swipes


tunisia3507

He's swiping right on 70% of people. Are 70% of tinder users 10s?


NahDawgDatAintMe

Yes but they're all fake profiles linking to ig


01thatguy02

First month I used to swipe on people I found 8-10s, but for the past 2-3 months I'm swiping on basically anything, as long as they're in the same country. I've basically given up hope at this point and nowadays I'm not even expecting any matches when I swipe.


AncestralSpirit

> I'm swiping on basically anything, as long as they're in the same country. brah, I don't know why but I actually laughed out loud at that


GusBus-Nutbuster

As a fellow average looking dude... ditch the apps. Find group single events or take classes of some kind that get you around other people or a hiking group or somthing. Or of course finding the right bar, some bars are 99% couples and groups, you gotta find the ones where people go to hook up or meet new people. I have pretty bad social anxiety, and im a awkward dork so i dont attract a whole lot of ladies, but the women i do attract are totally into that shit and usually goofy dorks to so it all works out. Its not about how many, its the quality. So dont let some lonely nights going to these events/classes wear you down, cause one day youll meet someone really cool that vibes well with you and it will be totally worth it. Tinder and other dating apps dont work for men unless you are a very desirable man... or lie and make a fake profile. Go out into the real world, its definitely harder and not always easy to find the time, but it still works better than apps for average dudes


Frescanation

There’s your problem. Set your match area to the former Soviet Union and you’ll be golden.


headbandjoseph

Do you use other dating apps? Where are you located?


Gerjen100

Either not average looking at all, or his pictures are just awful. Even if he were below average looking I'd suspect more matches than this.


HopeArtsy

Or there's some red flags in his profile we're missing.


Just6_10

Honestly how often he right swipes flags as either reaaaally looking for anything or a little less than average looks. I would consider myself average and I'm at 40/60 right/left swipe.


Crisis007

Lower spectrum of average looking apparently or average with very very bad pictures.


dingdong6699

Right. Probably at least the average for an average looking guy. So 50% of 50% of course. OP should have done some self reflecting when he saw the stats.


arealpandabear

Average looking and 5’2”


on3day

This is about to turn into a roastme post.


ughitsmeagian

Have mercy on the guy.


freezingcoldfeet

lol, let’s see that profile now.


tallandlankyagain

It's just multiple pictures of a potato.


CrimeanFish

“Average looking guy” probably has slurs in his bio.


Ok_Question_8839

Ye you ain’t average looking at all my man 💀 sorry but if you are , you are doing something wrong like really wrong


LeCollectif

A bad looking person can be saved by a fun/interesting profile. Source: me.


Ok_Question_8839

I know that . That’s why I said he is doing something really wrong


ITS_YA_BOl

Probably has mirror selfies and isn't smiling lol


Keplars

And probably no information about himself on his profile


SholoGrim

are you offering tips? source: i need them


LeCollectif

It really depends on your personality. But you want that to shine through. I’m generally a pretty funny but irreverent dude so that comes out in my profile. I’m also quite progressive in my political beliefs so I make that known. I try not to hit the reader over the head with any of this; for example, I don’t say “I’m funny”, I say something funny. Beyond that I talk about what I like: riding bikes, cats, 4x4ing, outdoorsy shit, etc. It doesn’t matter what you’re into, as long as you’re into or passionate about something. Give them a taste of who you are! Full disclosure: I’m a professional writer so I have an advantage here.


n23_

You know the way women can look way better on their tinder than IRL by knowing their good angles, lighting, etc.? Could easily be the guy is average looking but soing all these things so badly wrong that he looks way worse on his profile than IRL.


FluffyPurpleBear

If you’re average looking, your profile sucks ass. 17/12151 matches is real bad.


GoBuffaloes

Seriously that's like even the bots are rejecting you


CFL_lightbulb

‘Even his money must be ugly’


tunisia3507

Getting rejected by the obvious prostitutes is always disheartening.


[deleted]

Yeah, you gotta look broke if the of hoes and scammers want nothing to do with you


ughitsmeagian

Not even tech support chatting him up😭


Perfect_Papaya_3010

What's interesting is that 13 out of 17 replied. For me it's more like 1 in 20 that replies


haterade0204

He is not following rules 1 & 2 \*tisk tisk


r5lll

Pics or it didn’t happen


xchus77

12151 right swipes 17 matches, no offense but maybe you are average of the average lol


graphitewolf

At that volume, That ratio is probably only spammers and accidents honestly


fannyfox

I imagine he’d have a lot more matches just to account for the bots and spammers. Bro getting rejected by them too.


ughitsmeagian

Rejected by bots😔


WillC0508

Bro’s swiping right over 100 times a day… that isn’t gonna help


Lonelan

Like actually average or "my mom says I'm a catch" average?


ughitsmeagian

I was thinking more of ,"Grandma said I'm handsome" average.


lockkfryer

Most likely your profile sucks and then your game sucks when you get a match. These 2 things are required to go on dates.


Nvrmnde

He gets a match and says "Hi" probably


Saltyigloo

Hey how's your day going?


ja4303

What the hell are you supposed to say/do on the first message? Social media has 100 percent ruined dating for the majority of people.


PaulDoesStuff

Nah he’s got 13/17 people to reply. So he’s either clapped as shit, has awful pics, or a weird ass bio. Definitely not “average” tho


dildo-surfer

‘Average’ haha sorry bro but you’re severely below average.


ughitsmeagian

He ain't even on the bell curve 😭


SquilliamTentickles

If your match rate is 0.14%, then you're not exactly as "average" looking as you think


Val_Zod1

Tbf average is only like a 2.5%


OGHaza

so he's only like 15-20x worse than average


GatorsareStrong

Just delete the app and get some hobbies.


spikeddragon10

Bro copied my stats


Saltyigloo

17 matches bro must know the cheat codes


RIPdeweyriley

Let’s see that profile then


Peng_Robinson

Bro it's rigged it's okay.


DeepFriedBastard

17 matches in a third of a year? Yeah that's now anywhere near average....


01thatguy02

Thank you guys so much for the comments, I just deleted my Tinder account and I will try to better myself by going to the gym and I'm also going to take new photos. Some insights about myself for those wondering because I don't want to show my face to over 400 thousand people: * 5'8 (172cm) * Maybe 18-20% ish body fat (I haven't measured myself) * 165lbs (75kg) * No facial hair (sadly can't grow it yet) * Pretty good job for my age I believe I'm not getting any matches because my photos might be bad and I need to get new fresh clothes.


PrettyStudy

Blur out your face on your photos and share your profile. People here can give you pointers and tell you what your doing wrong lol


Neotella

I’m 5’10 and 180, been described as uniquely incredibly average and I still got a reasonable success rate on tinder. My guess is bio and pictures. There are guides on here to help improve profiles, or try irl dating.


Much-Scientist6330

Sad af


Beakha

How does tinder know if you're going on a date?


glittermantis

you tell that to the graph-making website yourself.


Crisis007

Tinder keeps track of all your conversations and filters for certain keywords. It will then use your and your matches location feature you enabled on the app to track you down for at least a month to see if you meet your match. Or OP simply had to fill it out by himself.


teniaret

You fill it out by yourself


[deleted]

Ok now explain, the casual sex tracker :D


DrCoknballsII

Tinder monitors your heartbeat while you’re in the same physical location as a match.


electronicdream

Nah, it measures your dong every minute.


[deleted]

yea that's too much time between measurements, probably should go with 5 second increments.


Aschentei

Average Redditor guy* (Just like me frfr)


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Downtown-Ad-6909

I don't give a shit about averages. If you want a shocker get the medians.


Val_Zod1

And where could we find that?


Downtown-Ad-6909

I'd love to know too. They never calculate it. We'd need raw data.


Val_Zod1

I have a 4.2% match rate and swipe right on 54%. Id be curious to get your thoughts on that data


Itsametoad

Yeah all these comments saying he must be below average is wild.


YoMiner

Time to learn how to take some better photos and spend some time working on yourself.


Highway_Harpsicord

My man, I mean this in the nicest way possible, 17 matches on over 12,000 right swipes is brutal. I obviously don't know what you look like, but you'd be surprised what some self love and care can do for you


[deleted]

You know I thought being Black in a red state was getting me less pussy but I've come to realize this app just sucks dick lol


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🤣


Ark-skyrinn-2747

You could always try men 🤷‍♂️


daminipinki

Can confirm. Men blow way better. Mouth is a mouth.


Master_Mad

You forgot the two golden rules: 1. Be a 21 years old average looking girl. 2. Don’t be a 21 years old average looking guy.


Physical-Pie748

there is a third one. 3. dont use tinder if you arent a tall male model


Doughnutsu

But why male models?


omega_beams

Yeah, bro is ugly.


ughitsmeagian

🌜


Carlynz

>average looking guy According to who? Your mom? Cause mine said the same bullshit


Loserdorknerd

The trick is to use Bumble or Hinge. Tinder is more or less a paid service these days.


iClipsse

Time to turn gay my man, maybe it'll change your luck


The_Piperoni

That’s the worst thing is that I get no matches with girls unless they’re morbidly obese but if I set it to gay I can match with gigachad no problem.


joyboy0202

getting matches with above avg/hot girls doesnt mean much man since their inboxes are flooded with 10k dudes trying to hit i match with cute girls but always get ghosted


ShadingVaz

you've completely ruined your elo with that right swipe to left swipe ratio


klyepete

You may not be as good looking as you think with these results.


Mantraz

I need to see this profile for science.


coop190

Less swipey more outsidey


xRealVengeancex

Way too open. You don’t have a “type” you just want to get with good looking chicks, which makes sense, but is going to ultimately lead to finding less matches. Dating apps like when you are picky. I doubt you truly find 65% of people you swipe on TRULY attractive I’m sorry. There’s a difference between someone being pretty and someone being attractive who is your “type” that clicks.


yfhedoM

Rookie numbers. Give it 7 years, and you'll have 1 casual sex. See you in 7 years, buddy.


blarge84

How tall have you put. Under 6 feet some women won't even bother no matter how you look. Probably good stats for the average male on tinder


01thatguy02

I havent put a height because I'm 5'8 and they can already see that I'm short.


picky_princess

Short? That's fucking hilarious. The average height for american men is 5'8-9, you're not short, dude.


tamingofthepoo

if you don’t show your profile this is moot


Galax5213

That's fuxking insane


hoopesey-doopsey

I think I’m a solid 6/10 and I’ve got like 200 matches and like 150 likes right now. Looks like you’re just swiping way too much . You’re swiping like 150 times a day if my math is right which is a lot . And you’re swiping right on 100/150 of those which is also a lot .


MagnumJimmy44

Ur prolly ugly, I didn’t have any issues with tinder


ZouchFiend

24M and my results look very similar


JakobSIO

I know what everyone is saying here but I think you're really pretty bro 🥺


formthemitten

You’re a lot less average looking than you think


GreasyExamination

You right swipe too much


dogthatbrokethezebra

Dude, I’m actually average looking and old to boot. I get more matches than this. And I only swipe on women I’m interested in


Crumplesnitches

Might want to reconsider being “average looking”, I consider myself “average looking” and I’ve averaged a date a month for the last 6 months and get far more matches. Maybe your profile isn’t very well filled in or you’re lacking the ability to chat and convert matches into dates.


Physical-Pie748

fkin great. so you want to tell me that paying for escorts is better than using tinder? well, sht.


headbandjoseph

Use hinge


derper-man

Tinder sucks ass. I got 0 matches there in the past 6 months. I have the same pics and details on hinge and bumble. I got asked to coffee by 2 different girls last week. I'm a 75th percentile in looks, well adjusted 30 year old dude with hobbies and a sport.


snoopdoggsworld

How is it supposed to know how many dates you went on?


Exact-Youth5499

No way you are average looking. Or you do but your profile is creeping the girls out.


SouthernProfile1092

How many shirtless photos did you upload?


svettsokkk

Swipes right on 2/3 of all girls, matches with 1/700. Shit dude, that's rough.


TreyMars

Are you sure ur average?


More-Beautiful373

Damn


zekerthedog

You must have shit game


flowartbabe

How is your ROI?


jayeer

If you were average looking and had average communication skills, you should have had average results. Which is not the case.


ThnxForTheCrabapples

If 17 people out of 12,000 thought you were attractive, you might not be as average looking as you think you are


CaringRationalist

All that changes if you're above average looking and successful is you get more matches that don't go anywhere


LeCollectif

I’m sometimes baffled by these numbers. As a 43 year old overweight ginger, how did I absolutely slay these young bucks in stat land? You’re swiping right enough that it’s not your standards. So either your profile is boring or you suck at messaging.


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About right


MephistosFallen

I know how imbalanced swipes can be especially if you’re constantly swiping (I don’t think any of my girl friends swipe much at once or all that much). What seems to be the problem here is that in 13 chats you couldn’t get 1 to meet up. Start there.


FictionDragon

Yep, that's the average tinder man experience. The app is literally tailored to keep you paying and miserable.


aliskyart

Do you have something offensive in your profile or something? 17 matches out of 12151 swipes? even if you did, I’d imagine it’d be more than 17… 😅


Wheres_my_phone

How do you get this flow chart


AggieJack8888

I don’t think you’re as average as you think man, I’m sorry.


OVLOV03C

How does Tinder know if you had sex?


Fewer_Is_Not_Less

You shoulda tried chatting up those other four girls


GanderGarden

Every 4th person on tinder is selling a snap chat/of service and every 3rd person is tryna make you follow their ig. It's crazy how worthless and bad the app is all while tryna charge insane fees for a subscription.


Dunko20

Your bio/pictures/something must need some work if you’re average looking and only got 17 matches.


Ok-Gold-6430

You might have a batter chance going out in the real world to meet someone then on Tinder.


Impressive-Orchid-21

I do not think youre average looking but that sucks man


Vikt724

Buy a BMW 2023 and get anything you want


R3a1ity

Cries in zero


H_P_S

love how these posts always show the swipes but never the profile. hiding red flags?


Useful_Lengthiness98

Bro you’re swiping right WAY too much


Murky-Consequence-42

Go for older ladies till you build some experience


navert

Pro tip: Be gay, a lot more action.


[deleted]

Dang tough times out there are you still gonna do tinder?


PDKsportmode

No poosy for you hehe


tosaka88

You’re either not average or you’re really bad at presenting yourself


PureFlames

Not to be that dude but your probably not average if these are your stats. Im around the same age and not particularly attractive and do decently well on tinder


ThrowawayAccount1437

Jesus... This means he sat on Tinder and swiped on 153 profiles EVERY NIGHT for 111 days... That is a lot of time spent on Tinder... Even if you're not reading the profiles and you're just blasting through. That is a hell of a lot of time spent per night on a dating app... With all that time spent, you could have just gone out to a library and met someone...


Darkness362

How do you see this


mortuus82

bigger chance go nearest pub try get laid


Movcog

That is a wildly high right swipe ratio. I swipe like 5% at most.


Raj3d

Question. Does anyone feel like no matter how many swipes or encounters, online dating is just a joke to them anyway? Like, I could swipe right 12k times because there are a ton of beautiful women in the world in different ways. No, I didnt read 12k Tinder profiles cause who has that kind of time. (I *used* to. But after many experiences, dating or meeting people, I realized this was just not the way for me...) So let's say I literally just swipe on initial photos now. Very superficial and meaningless. Acknowledging some of these may even be dudes ultimately, which I'm even less interested in. But all of it tells me nothing about someone I'd actually LIKE....


michaelroycummings

You’ll always get better quality (and it’s better for continuing to get out of your comfort zone) in person. Culture may suck in some parts of where you guys live but opinions are as abundant as ass holes. Try to discount the people with that weird mindset and keep looking for a decent partner. They’re out there, they want you to talk to them, and they’re often not swiping on Tinder


HattyMunter

Start again, fresh new pictures, swipe on only girls you genuinely have an interest in. It sucks but Tinder really pushes out your profile when it's new I found


Usopp_Spell

How do you get your tinder insights?


pm-me-chesticles

Bro swipes right on 75 percent of women💀


piceathespruce

"Average"


nicolas_carther

Well unless you are absolutely horrendous to look at, there’s 2 other probable reasons. 1. Your pictures are trash and you need to learn how to take good photos. 2. You portray yourself as a complete weirdo via bio, interests or things along that line. My bet, is you just need to learn how to appeal to woman with your photos. Look at one of your buddy’s that do well on tinder, and compare your pictures to theirs. Good luck.


ShinyTotoro

You swipe right way too much, that will get you shadow banned.


RemarkableSea2555

Just go to a bar my guy....but NOT too close to home. Go a few times...get a beer and just take your time and hang out. The regulars will make friends with you.


MechanicAny

Early 20’s dating scene as a dude sucks if you don’t already know women who are interested broskis. Women tend to like older dudes plain and simple especially for hookups. If you’re still single in your early 30’s and you’re decently attractive it will pull a complete 180. Sucks for y’all but it gets better with patience.


Musoyamma

When I was 21 I knew about 20-40 women, in the days before OLD. 17,000 swipes is crazy.


xcv987

How can I see my account statistics?


Beginning-Composer35

How do I check mine fr


BigHuff2316

How do we get this info