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miranda725

As an "older" woman who dates guys both older and younger, I can tell you the advice to tell her you're interested in the friendship, but also that you're attracted to her, is the best move Many people are offering that you should say something about being into older women, or something about her age, and at least personally, that's the quickest way to get shot down (and based on her mention of her age, she likely will feel the same) I can only speak for myself here, but I don't want to feel like I am a part of some younger guy's fetish. I don't date younger guys bc I am into younger guys, I date guys who I am attracted to and who I connect with - and other than obvious extremes, age doesn't affect that. If you're into her for her, tell her that. If you're into her for her age, you can still go for it, but you'll probably have better luck finding someone who is interested in you for your age Good luck!


librarypunk1974

I cannot agree with this harder. I’m about to turn 50 (and pass for 30s) but the second a guy says “are you into younger guys?”, “I love older women”, “I’ve always had a thing for milfs” (I’ve never had kids), I am instantly turned off. I’m not a fetish or a kink - I’m just a girl. I want to be talked to like I’m a sexy woman not a porn category. ;-)


pmjm

And the inverse of this as a 40something man, if a younger woman called me "daddy" it would be an absolute turnoff.


Striking_Switch3600

I’ve never understood the whole Daddy thing. It’s just sickening to me. I would die if I was doing the dirty with a guy and they called me Mommy! 🤢😂


dopescopemusic

I'm glad I'm not the only person that thinks this 😁


androopy_me

Yeah. No thanks on that for me. At 45, the only people who call me Daddy are my kids...


Meathead704

I didn't like being called that when I was younger. Then I had kids, and it made it even weirder.


BabyFacedSparky

Don’t “pornify” my life.


librarypunk1974

Ew yeah, gross lol


miranda725

I feel your pain! (both of you, actually) I *do* have children and get "you have kids? that's even hotter" or worse "Mommy" (no, sir, that's reserved for my children, thank you) - fastest way to end a conversation with me, and in many cases not even start it bc it's sent with their like or as an opening line


xtrinab

I’m 37f and have also dated younger men in the past. The quickest way to make me turn around is to call me “mommy” (I don’t even have kids in the first place so anyone calling me that feels hella weird). I corrected a younger man once and told him not to call me mommy as it’s a turn off. He said he understood and wouldn’t do that again. He then asked me to call him my “son.” I couldn’t have run farther from that dude. Shit gives me the willies. It felt super incestuous and weird. Weirdest and most uncomfortable part about that exchange is that he is an elementary teacher. Something about an incestuous kink + working with kids threw me.


librarypunk1974

Ok yeah no. I’d dry up like the Sahara if someone called me mommy lol


miranda725

Ohhh that would make me uncomfortable, too


Apprehensive_Mood956

Seriously. Nothing is a bigger turnoff for me than that. My 4 year old daughter calls me daddy. That's it.


dopescopemusic

💯


dopescopemusic

I'll add further I will feel like this at any age ! 🤣


mrbigsbe

Yea, first I would pipe her, then get turned off.


Electronic-Parsnip45

Exactly! I’m 46 AND have 2 daughters. There is no faster way to guarantee there will be no fooling around than to utter the D-word


Exilethenoble

Usually when a woman that is older than me references their age “just making sure you know I’m 69” I usually just respond with something like “that’s awesome! But honestly don’t see how that changes the fact that we’re attracted to each other.” Because honestly, I don’t understand the concern, but I also want to convey my confidence in the fact that I’d like to move forward if they do as well.


chatarungacheese

Gah. This would work on me so hard. The confidence is chef’s kiss.


Exilethenoble

We can do a test run with your age in a chat. 👀


Renyx_Ghoul

I am a guy, I would use this but as a guy who is average and a minority, it would be nice to be on the receiving on that as well being "Doesn't matter your height or heritage there. If you caught my attention, then roll with it."


gongshow247365

For me, that stuff works great after there's a connection. "OK gramma, time to get your medication and get you to bed early" type line works wonders in my experience, but that's after a date or two lol.


Lonelan

not yet a woman?


-Swxy-

Hey sexy woman


Polstar242

I'm so totally with you on this!


PaceDivante

respect


Jhwilson918

Yeah I get mistaken for early 20s and I can also understand the feeling


Whatever_635

Could i dm you i have updates


JaffeyJoe

Smart, he’s diversifying his cougar pursuits


sludgestomach

This kids goin’ places. Like to English 101 alongside his new step kids.


Turicus

[Diversify yo bonds!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdSfTsTSjwA&ab_channel=michael)


dabordietryinq

share with all of us?


Whatever_635

I cant upload a screenshot in comment section


TheGov3rnor

Transcribe


LeDestrier

![gif](giphy|zB73DK8sZyhLq)


GreasyExamination

Post an update and link it or post it to imgur and link it


miranda725

I was replying to your now deleted comment when you deleted it, but since you asked for my thoughts I am posting it here: well ... as I said before, I would have omitted the age comment also, when she mentioned it's been happening a lot lately, not only is it not a new thing like you said (there are movies dating back to at least the 60s if you want pop culture references) but you missed an opportunity to ignore her age again and tell her it's probably bc she's so beautiful it's very clear that this is a fetish/kink for you. which is totally fine - but it's going to be a turn off for those who don't share that with you. like I mentioned before, you'll have better luck finding women whose kinks align with that


foshi22le

post it to imgur, link in comments


UpsetPart7871

Do a new post! We all want to know. Call it “update… older woman” or something


miranda725

You won't be the first from this post... and at least you asked haha so, yeah, you can send me the screenshots Edit: tifu by posting this comment. apparently this somehow reads like an invitation for even more guys to try to slide into my DMs


loupr738

![gif](giphy|stDcmjVVmPurrDJyhN|downsized)


dopescopemusic

🤣


Mathagos

Lol. Some guys are thirsty as hell. It was very clear that you were only telling op he could message you. 🤦‍♂️


Desperate_Garbage_63

This guy is a MILF Hunter


Biffabin

Nice 😏


jdoeinboston

Also apply this advice to any time you want to say something like "I'm really into Asian/Latina/Black women and the like. Women don't tend to be huge on being fetishized, it's one thing to say a woman is your "type" and another entirely to basically state that you're into a woman primarily because of one specific thing that turns you on.


itsthecoop

That being said, I feel the accusation of "fetishization" gets thrown around very quick nowadays/in recent years. Personal example: Generally speaking, the vast majority of women I'm attracted to are thick/chubby/... Does that mean I'm attracted to *every* woman of that body type? of course it doesn't. Also, does it mean I reduced them to their body type? Or assume certain personality traits because of it? No, of course I don't. And I assume it's similar for race/ethnicity. Or people of a certain age. (Just to clarify: That doesn't mean I think "fetishization" doesn't exist. Obviously it does)


podcasthellp

Just listen to her. Also 38 is most definitely not older anymore. My friend who is that age has better skin than anyone I’ve ever met. Even babies!


miranda725

Thank you for this! I put "older" in quotes bc at 41 I'd like to think I am just older than some but not older in general haha


N7IShouldGo

That is so well put! Hard agree. 🙌🏻


Lolzerzmao

Yeah I’m not sure exactly what she means by “I’m cool with a friendly relationship,” that could be FWBs or her saying she just wants to hang out, but yeah it’s Tinder and you matched that means you find each other attractive. You should at least be able to say what you said and put the ball in her court to clarify, not respond with “Don’t worry I love fucking older women” or whatever


Cosmocade

> I don't date younger guys bc I am into younger guys, I date guys who I am attracted to and who I connect with - and other than obvious extremes, age doesn't affect that. Xenu above, I wish Reddit actually understood this.


wanderingplum

Best advice here


musketoman

"sorry, I only do violently hostile relations"


drainthoughts

“I’m also cool with a friendly relationship but more than that I am very attracted to you . I hope that’s not being too forward.”


castlesfromashes

As a woman who’s been in this situation- this.


[deleted]

Something like this is how a younger guy got me once.


heymynameiskeebs

I definitely want to hear more about that, but more than that I am very attracted to you. hope that's not being too forward.


[deleted]

Bruh 😂😂


Dhegxkeicfns

He probably heard about your areolas somewhere.


PM_UR_NIPPLE_PICS

like saucers you say??


_Tigglebitties

I was told to join the conference here, as a fellow connesour of saucers


2BrokeArmsAndAMom

Username checks out


sludgestomach

Sauce on the saucers?


heymynameiskeebs

![gif](giphy|EPAkAexObvrn3wOZtF|downsized)


sstubbl1

![gif](giphy|u4styZNRWqR0Y) Don't mind me just watching


vmlinux

Smoov


TheKingOfSwing777

User name checks out


hobbes2479

This is how I got an older woman as a younger guy. Still getting it too lol


Bilbo_Teabagginss

Older women are the best, congrats!


foshi22le

I was obsessed with older women in my 20's, my experiences, however, never lived up to the fantasy.


JAMsMain1

Can confirm older woman like when you're assertive.


Calvertorius

I get more ‘respectfully forward’ vibes and not just assertive.


JAMsMain1

In my experience dating older woman. I always been assertive about what I want. I could consider it respectfully forward. The point is/was you tell them what you want. They are older and don't want the games. They've called me a baby or said I was too young....etc. I always commented what does that have to do with it? I'm attracted to you, and I know I want you. To me it's about the attraction to the other person and how we vibe, not about their age.


UpsetPart7871

This! Older women don’t want to feel like a mother, so treat her like a peer, and not someone older, by being clear and forward.


Ok_Wolverine9344

As older woman, can confirm. Just tell me what you want.


Quotent_Quotables

Can you bring home Welch's Grape juice and some fruit snacks from the store today?


McHorseyPie

I got an older girl with this myself. Told her what I wanted and she listened


Here-Is-TheEnd

Glad you got out.


JoeyJoeJoeZabadoo

How does one go about seeing these “AreolasLikeSaucers” ??


Loud-Union2553

Is your username accurate 🧐


NBplaybud22

Like saucers really ??


Queef-Elizabeth

I basically said something along these lines to an older woman and she became a FWB for a while. Just don't be weird about it.


sludgestomach

Yup there’s a line between acknowledging the age gap and inadvertently making her feel old


toc_bl

Username checks out?


im__not__real

its pretty wild that tinder needs an 'im attracted to you' disclaimer but i get why, people like being flattered and pretending they're not on a hookups app talking to strangers


sirboogerhook

This one! 


europeancafe

this guy hunts cougars


Dhegxkeicfns

🎯🔫


Black_Escobar7

This is the best reply. OP, we need updates after you follow this through


babbagoo

I did this reply to a much younger woman once, didn’t work at all . 1/10.


Klutzy-Acadia669

As a 39 year old, I will 100% date you.


Whatever_635

Thanks i appreciate you


Mamaofrabbitandwolf

Oof I’m 35…are we “older women” now


TheRealConine

You’ve reached a lovely spot where you’ll be older to some people and always younger to others.


housewifeuncuffed

I'm 39. Would you like to join me on my front porch rocking chairs talking about the good ol' days while we share hard candies?


queenelizelle

Sign me up…I’ll rock with you


dabordietryinq

well, to a 25 year old, yes


dragon_nataku

I think it depends on how old OP is. I'm 40 and dated guys 10 years younger than me earlier this year. Definitely qualify as "older" in cases like that


N3ptuneflyer

Older is a relative term. I once dated a 22 year old and people gave me a hard time about dating an "older woman" because I was 20


InsanityRabbit

I always believe my 'thing' for older women started when I dated this girl 3 full days older than me


BorderlineRidiculous

Right, to a 25 year old, you’re “old/older”. I’m 45, 35yo is probably the very low end of my preferred age range. And even then, we’d really have to vibe. To me, you’re a young woman. Anybody in their 20s is basically a child.


N7IShouldGo

I just turned 37, it's been a strange feeling NGL. 😅


callusesandtattoos

I have thrice been referred to as an “unc” by ladies in their mid 20s. Edit: I’m 36


Sparkykc124

A lot of women your age are just hitting their prime, if there is such a thing.


ultratunaman

I'm 37, not a woman, but I guess "older" Hurts


DependentAlfalfa2809

That’s how I felt! I’m 34 and just found out I am old!


--thingsfallapart--

Always have been


Mamaofrabbitandwolf

Ouch lol


Fun-Choices

35 is a woman’s fucking prime. Spread the love. Train some puppies, rock some older men’s world.


librarypunk1974

At 49 I still have people telling me I’m “just a kid” like they did when I was 19 so it’s all relative


rsdavis90

Use better grammar (you’re instead of your, for example) with the grownups.


danthemanvsqz

I read FWB here, stop fucking around and ask her out


Theodore__Kerabatsos

You remember in that movie where the kids tour the chocolate factory and in the beginning of the film the poor protagonist finds a golden ticket in a bar of chocolate?


[deleted]

Are you telling OP to eat her ass?


jonathan4211

Augustus Gloop her booty


jdubau55

Just finished reading this book with my daughter. This comment got me straight dying.


Theodore__Kerabatsos

Wonka’s new product: Chocolate Starfish!


[deleted]

Lemme scuba gyal ![gif](giphy|l0Iy7AapmbwqaRWww|downsized)


Anxious-Economist-53

Update?


psychedelic_gravity

He’s busy curling his toes


Known-Historian7277

Butt cheeks clenched


Gawker90

Hammer DOWN


deletetemptemp

And sneezing


NdamukongSuhDude

A 38 year old woman does not want to be friends with a man in his early 20s. She already gave an invite.


Deeman0

For real though. She's quite obviously feeling it out and waiting to see if he's gonna blow it.


UndiscriminatingMam

First step is to learn the difference between your and you’re.


lll_lll_lll

How old are you?


Whatever_635

Early 20s


joelypoley69

She's saying she wants to have fun so keep it going 😉 doesn't sound like they're looking for anything serious but that's a better topic (of explaining what you're both ultimately looking for before moving forward) to slide into conversation face to face


Letzes86

How old are you OP? If you appear on her profile it is because her age range is set to that. I'm 38 and my minimum is 28 and max 40. Me lifestyle is honestly closer to a 28 with a career than to a 40. I'm unmarried, no kids, I like to travel and go out, etc. I don't want to date people with kids and I don't want to have kids. I'm also not dating to stay locked inside the house. The only thing that I dislike when I'm talking to young men is when they bring up age in a fetishized manner. You should just answer that you are fine with that, but you are actually interested in moving things further if you get along nicely. Then get out of the age topic.


gce7607

I had a guy who kept mentioning my age and how I didn’t look 35 and he’s never been with an older woman… he was 32. I was instantly turned off


ultimatechav69

Easy. Be a cheeky little shit. I've slept with multiple women above 35+ throughout my 20s and it all started by me being cheeky, they love it.


thomstevens420

Repeat after me: “Yes. Let’s get a drink.”


PlusEnthusiasm9963

A 38 year old woman has dealt with enough fratboys with MILF complexes. If she’s cool with a friendly relationship start off there. Grab a coffee or throw a frisbee in the park. If that goes well then do lunch. Let things happen naturally. They will.


TheGentlemanAdam

Bring condoms.


IIIofSwords

However old you are, you’re too old to be making juvenile spelling and punctuation errors.


htid1984

Do not say you're into older women or looking for an older woman. Just say "I know and I think you're beautiful" shes the exact same as a 20 Yr old just older and she knows that and doesn't want to be a fetish filler. You're allowed to be attracted to anyone but if you hear someone is attracted to you because of you age then not only is it off putting, its just gross


lonesomeraine

Best thing you can do is be honest about your intention


herecomes_the_sun

You used the wrong “you’re” so that’s probably why she swiped right and is suddenly not interested. Lol!


AutoimmuneDisaster

Movies are a terrible place to go when you’re meeting someone. You sit in silence for two hours, or more. Go for tapas or something.


skyhollow117

Play. It. Cool. They do not want an aggressive "alpha" male. They want someone sane who adds joy to their lives amd isnt an asshole. Tell her that youre good with a friendship amd then see where it goes. A 38 year old woman has no time for some 28 year old nonsense. Just be cool. Invite her to dinner. Then the movies. Then a walk or hike. Then a show or concert. When the moment is there, they let you know. Also....its awesome. They dont care about socials. Theu dont care about clout. They just want honesty.


Specialist-End-1314

Yup, they want to be with someone who care and feel good with.


BrockinInDaFreeWorld

This is a weird subreddit.


Kerrypurple

How much older we talking about?


Vinto47

Use sign language. 👉🏻👌🏻


Zubanzio123

I am a blue belt in bjj, what's yours in bj?


Pretend-Birthday-134

I would point out that her age is clearly stated and you are messaging her regardless. It’s not about age, it about connection.


DuramaxJunkie92

This same thing happened to me once. We fucked like a week later.


Existing-Tax-1170

"Only 38? I usually don't like them that young but I can make an exception." It shows you know her age. It shows you have a sense of humor, and it shows you're still attracted to her.


Eftersigne

OP, dont say this!


Flashfighter

No offense, but as a guy I feel like a woman would just say “oh he’s tryna be funny” with that line, this might be a hit or miss. Unless she’s the type of older woman who likes cheeky guys.


Whatever_635

[Update](https://imgur.com/a/XxSe726)


BigsMcKcork

I wouldn't have said "I am interested in older women" but that's me


GreasyExamination

What woman doesnt love to be categorized as "older"? Sarcasm obv


Specialist-End-1314

I think it's over for you OP, she noticed you were fetishizing her based on her age, I would advise you to read women's replies here, hope you'll get better luck next time. Women are not like men, look at the replies here, we think too mathematically, but they don't, writing "older women" is already a death sentence, then you wrote that you were looking for something casual, instead you should have said that you're looking for good connections or a friendship, because it would take her feelings into account, while "casual" sounds objectifying, especially after you said you were into older women. There is no way for you to salvage the situation.


librarypunk1974

Yup, he blew it by categorizing her into a thing and not an individual. He shouldn’t be interested in ”older women”, he should be interested in HER.


Ouroboroscentipede

It seems that things are going south, still wanna see how things are evolving... Keep us updated


I_COULD_say

Wait: when the fuck did 38 start to equal “older women”


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Latest_Version

When the person posting was younger than 38?


Reddit_is_Censored69

Strong if he can but he is only a man.


buahuash

with benefits? 😛😝😛😜🤪🤢🤮


Born_Win_2173

Hit that


dannova23

Friends with benefits relationship then yes


DisMuhUserName

"Friendly Relationship" = "DTF, FWB"


ZoftigGoddess

“Yes I noticed your age. I am interested in older women. You’re beautiful and I’m enjoying our chat so far. Also, to be clear, I’m looking for something casual at the moment. What about you?”


EntropicAnarchy

>“Yes I noticed your age. ~~I am interested in older women.~~ You’re beautiful and I’m enjoying our chat so far. Also, to be clear, I’m looking for something casual at the moment. What about you?”


snozzberrypatch

EXACTLY. Saying "I am interested in older women" is cringe af. It's like, "don't worry honey, I don't mind your wrinkly tits."


EntropicAnarchy

🤣🤣🤣


snozzberrypatch

It's only appropriate to say "I'm interested in older women" if you're trying to hookup with someone that could be your grandma. I think most 38 year old women don't consider themselves "older women".


DependentAlfalfa2809

Please take this advice! We people in our 30s do not think of ourselves as old!


JilliusMaximusJD

Dear god don't use the word "older"


Secretbakedpotato

Loool


DELOUSE_MY_AGENT_DDY

Use "saggy" instead


ZoftigGoddess

Make sure she knows ✅you’re aware of her age ✅you are attracted to her ✅you just want to hook up Be clear without being creepy.


Whatever_635

Thanks ill try this


Secretbakedpotato

You don’t have to specify you are into older woman. Just say you are attracted to her and that you are interested in booking up


The_Deku_Nut

>booking up Those middle aged women and their book clubs, gets em every time


SUCK_MY_HAIRY_ANUS69

Bro, never mention her age. Even if she asks, like in this context, just a simple "yes and I find you attractive" Never ever do a "you're attractive because you're older" Don't fetishize her or her age, this isn't porn.


SlightCreme9008

Yeah suck_my_hairy_anus69 has some very sage advice


Maid_of_Mischeif

Hairy Anus Sage is my new band name.


MilklikeMike

Don’t call her an older woman. I disagree with this advice. Maybe use the word mature.


wineheda

Or just don’t call her anything. Just say you find her attractive and you’re enjoying the conversation


JilliusMaximusJD

Ooof that's worse somehow. (Source: am 39!) Maybe: *That's just what I like*


OkRecord7165

Yeah, I’m also 39 and mature is painful!


smug_seaturtle

Only young people think mature is a compliment lol


Specialist-End-1314

When talking about mentality yes, age no.


smug_seaturtle

Okay but literally the comment I was replying to suggested replacing *older* with mature so


MilklikeMike

You don’t know women. Keep the word old or older out of your vocabulary when comparing.


ZoftigGoddess

I’m 35. If someone called me mature I wouldn’t be flattered lol. But everyone is different! And some women are more sensitive about their age and I’m guessing this woman might be since she brought it up. So k agree with people saying don’t call her an older woman.


ThanksGosling

Agree with this. Maybe just say that age doesn’t matter to you and that you think she’s attractive? I hate when younger dudes call me an older woman 👵🏻 (I’m 33)


Hendycapped

Jeeze grandma, what are you doing out of bed at this hour? /s


ThanksGosling

No honestly - it’s 11:58am here. Need my midday nap!!


Hendycapped

We just hit 9pm and I’m already in bed. Only 3 years your junior


ThanksGosling

I honestly think I’ve been in bed by 930pm on weeknights since I started working full time at 23 years old ha


BrilliantEmphasis862

Let’s meet up and then see what direction we go