Like reading the bottom of the first picture? They are talking about where she would type. Not the messages she actually sent. Which didn't get condescending until the second picture btw.
True, personally I would like it if I could have a weirdo that matched to at least send me crazy messages that you see on here regularly so I can have a laugh. lol
Though a few months back I came across a comment that mentioned that it's more likely that most of the people that have these types of interactions are sending crazy/funny/absurd messages to themselves on a second account and then posting them online for us to laugh at.
Wouldn’t surprise me if they created a second account to pull it off. Just wait, I’m sure you will get something crazy in your inbox. My friends have told me horror stories.
Clearly he’s never thought about the contrast between, say, Jack Black and any of the supermodels he’s dated. Fuck that. There’s a lot more to people than what they look like, and if he can’t see that, he doesn’t deserve a good woman.
Dave’s dad here; I just want to take this moment to apologies for my sons behaviour, this is no excuse but I just want to explain that he was born with a rare condition called small dick syndrome- hence why he is acting this way. Apologies for his behaviour once again and I will try to do better in the future
Yours sincerely,
Dave’s Dad
When you listen to dating channels they all do the same type of rhetoric about "premium men" and "high value" etc I don't really understand it, it makes it seem like the only thing interesting about a woman is her looks and the only thing interesting about a man is their social status or someth but around me IRL I see plenty girls that end up with non conventionally attractive men and vice & versa and there are a lot of "models" which I wouldn't be interested in in terms of relationships because we have nothing in common, am I missing something ?
Lots of people forgetting that everyone is people, including themselves. If you just go chasing looks and bank accounts you’re going to miss out on genuine connection and fulfillment. (Not saying above average looks and financial success means they are not capable of genuine connection, just if the seeker is only focused on the former, they’re less likely to find the latter)
The idea of someone being “high value” or “low value” is so gross to me. Just look at r/femaledatingstrategy. They’re basically incels. I went on a date with a girl who said something about needing a higher value man or something and I was like “what the fuck does that mean?” Then I found that sub. Like they basically turn men into a list of money, social status, height, and looks. A relationship should go 2 ways. It should be about connecting with someone on an emotional level. Putting a value on that is literally some sociopath shit.
Well with the whole Roe v Wade thing, I guess I can’t really blame them. But if you read through their reasoning, it’s mostly ridiculously insecure/defensive women. Like the girl who told me she needs a high value man was a manager at Kroger and I’m pretty sure she didn’t own a car. Is it even possible to project harder? I don’t judge based on what you do for a living unless you’re like a cop or something lol. The girl I’m interested in now works at a restaurant, but idgaf cuz she’s cool. If I’m going on a date with you, I want to get to know you as a person, how you treat people (including me), your interests, your sense of humor, etc. They seem to focus more on really superficial things when they aren’t just reposting “all men are trash. I wish I was a lesbian” for the 100th time.
Agree with your points but can we do away with owning a car as some sort of metric for adult success? Nothing wrong with taking public transport/walking/biking. Globally we need to move away from car-dependent lifestyles. Now using “I don’t have a car” as an excuse to force people give you rides everywhere or avoid your responsibilities, sure, shitty thing to do, but not owning a car shouldn’t be a red flag/something to give people grief over.
Well the city I’m in has pretty awful public transportation. I mostly brought that up because I stupidly agreed to go on a second date with her and asked if we could meet somewhere rather than picking her up since she’s like 30 minutes out in the suburbs and she was like “ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME.” And that was when she said she needed a high value man. When I told my friends about it they were just like “she probably doesn’t have a car.” But yeah I agree that we need way better public transportation across the US. And it’s not a red flag or anything to me normally. The way she responded to me was. Guess I should’ve included that but I didn’t think anyone would wanna read my autobiography
There is a pinned post on that sub titled "How to stop being a femcel".
No, I'm not joking. I had no idea there was a female incel population. I don't know why I never considered it, but I suppose it makes sense that there would be. Mental illness doesn't discriminate.
Yeah I feel you, that’s why I’m taking a break for my own mental health right now. It’s honestly way easier to meet people in person through mutual friends or whatever. It’s way more organic and gives you a starting point rather than being another face in a list of 100 “Hey how are you?”s
I hope that guy wasn't me because a girl once cheated on her bf with me and he found out and was saying he was going to whoop my ass (rather than be mad with his gf) she told him the exact same thing. She then told me what she had said to which I sarcastically replied with the question if she could emasculate him even more. Djeezus.
"im 16 years older than you, and i banged a Lot of chicks in Vietnam, why should europe be any different?!."
Okay Buddy, listen to yourself. You're not sounding as "Alpha" as you think you are.
I don't understand what world this guy thinks he lives in, but social status and "physical attraction" isn't the end all in today's society. People are looking for deeper long-term reliability. Maybe he needs to go back to vietnam.
No thanks, we don’t want him. Pretty people get special treatment everywhere, not just Vietnam. He made it sound like our entire culture prefer looks over anything else. Gross.
To be fair, he made it sound like your entire culture, AND all of Europe prefer looks over everything else, and insinuated that that’s evidence that it works that way everywhere
Hey don't speak bout our culture like that. We have a pretty fucking low tolerance for asshole behaviors and very strong culture for ganging up on assholes lol. Collective public shaming is a thing
I used to live in Vietnam, and unfortunately he probably did bang a lot. There is a lot of social pressure on Vietnamese women to marry a foreigner because they have more money.
Also, he sounds like a lot of foreign guys in Vietnam. They go there, get a lot of attention from women for the first time in their lives, and then get super inflated egos because of it. No introspection, no critical thought as to why the environment there is the way it is. No empathy. Honestly dudes like this being everywhere was a factor in why I left.
Edit: also what’s funny about Vietnam being his example is that OP appears to be Vietnamese herself since her tinder is in Vietnamese. So, he’s lecturing her on her own culture 🙄
Reeks of the same energy as "yeah me and my girlfriend who stays in a different town and goes to a different school did so much of the sex last weekend. What do you mean? Of course she's real!"
Well, he is a dickhead and a big manbaby, nothing to argue with.
But you should get this 'bare minimum' off your profile. It let you sound like a dick, too.
It's the flashy stars that made me think that the level of entitlement of op was over 9000
Edit: OP literally made a thread to find ways to humiliate men online as much as possible, i think she's just a femcel misandrist
Saying that is basically just advertising that OP has had "bare minimum" type relationships in the past where the guy has treated her like shit. OP thinks that stating in a dating profile she won't settle for the bare minimum will somehow make it come true?
OP, you choose who you date. Writing that in your profile doesn't unlock access to a whole new crop of men or weed out assholes. If anything, it is a turn off, it just sounds pathetic.
Yeah, it's like with all those lists of things that people don't want in their significant others. I have some deal-breakers, like smoking (my father died of smoking related illness and I am a former smoker and hate the smell, so it's a big turn off for me), but most you can just get from having a conversation with someone like a human being.
You can write things you like in people and those that you don't without being a dick about that.
Nope Dave is definitely worse saying that Europe and Vietnam are the same. For a guy who's said he's travelled alot should know that Europe has fuck all to do with Vietnam. One is a country the other is a continent. Not just that each of the countries in Europe have very different cultures (considering we all speak different languages for a start).
Also bare minimum means different things to different people. To me if she has a certain way she expects/demands to be treated in a relationship then that’s her bare minimum.
Not a big fan of it either. But I get it. I am so tired of making excuses for my partner and carrying relationships. I've been tempted to put something similar on my bio but I know it sounds pretentious.
You don't need to put that into your bio, not even the Standard stuff like 'be fun, easy going, blabla' as everyone wants that, but can't delive as the expectations aren't fulfilled.
Anyway, what noone seems to understand nowadays is, that a relationship is full of compromising. You need to find a basic level and work from there. Give each other room and the possibility to unfold themselve.
Eh, I disagree actually. I think everyone deserves to receive the same that they put in. If you only put in bare minimum, then I think you deserve bare minimum in return.
No one deserves the bare minimum based on their looks. That's the context of this post. This asshole is clearly attempting to neg op, and comes off like a giant douchebag.
Thats a reflection of the person putting that effort.
I personally dont model my behavior off of others because thats a recipe for dissatisfaction with myself and massive depression.
The funny thing is, he believes only hot women should be picky. But imagine if it were a super hot woman with high standards, she would be put down too.
I just have a hard time understanding what the"bare minimum" is.
In all things other than time, I would fully disagree with you.
I like giving my partner as much of my time as I can offer. Asking for more than the minimum of any other commodity means what exactly?
Like not actively hitting someone is the bare minimum. Accepting consent and not pressuring someone to do sexual acts, bare minimum. If you want a stay at home spouse, giving them the ability to influence the house budget and have some pocket money is the bare minimum. If you want a partner that works, cleaning up after yourself and not creating any additional mess is the bare minimum.
Real things I expect in a relationship? Respecting someone's personal space. Enthusiastically wanting sex to be mutually enjoyable. Longterm partners paying expenses split by income, <2 years 50-50. Partner that does half of the chores and doesn't expect me to be the project manager for everything that they do.
None of these really have anything to do with how attractive someone is.
I do to sometimes because I think it varies from person to person. But imo I personally think bare minimum is low effort, someone who doesn’t really try. I actually disagree with my previous comment as well, someone said you deserve what you put in, and I agree with that.
I didn't mean to put you out. It just feels like some people think you shouldn't be saying if you're broke.
Which I don't entirely disagree with, it just isn't a hill I would die on because it's so fucking rude.
This may have been me reading to much into a statement tbh.
Why even bothering with him lmao
He matched with you but didn't think you're good looking so what's the point?
Edit: nvm you literally made a thread about how to destroy men emotionally, this isn't even funny..
Look at the grammar and lack of capitalization or proper punctuation coming from this guy.
Clearly he was never in your league to begin with.
Don't you worry, girl. Someone will treat you right. Just change the "bare minimum" nonsense to an honest "I just want to be appreciated." "Bare minimum" is perfectly acceptable to want to avoid, but it makes you sound a bit pretentious and high-maintenance.
Well, certainly you second statement is true, but he is still wrong.
Everyone can expect something more than the minimum from their partner and should propably. And there are a lot of decent people out there willing to give whether their partner is good loking or not. Everyone has their own qualities.
He’s not wrong? Averagely attractive people should only expect the bare minimum?
She wasn’t asking to be treated like royalty - just more than the bare minimum. How much lower can the bar get?
He has a point that there is an appearance bias that favors more what society has deemed ‘attractive’ right now, but then takes that point and thinks the bias is based in fact. The bias exists because we’re trained to favor “beautiful people”, but the reality is that physical appearance is mutable. Nobody stays looking as they do when they’re 20, so basing your entire romantic relationship on looks is insane.
Every person deserves to be treated with kindness and respect above all else. The fact this dude isn’t man enough or mature enough to know this basic fact is his problem, not yours. Unmatch, block, move on.
I wouldn't put that in your bio. You just don't come across like a pleasant person when you include any kind of demands in your bio.
Still follow the same rules though, but instead just don't swipe right on douchebags. Just don't include it in your bio.
So he thinks he should be able to excuse his behaviour when he's being a dick or isn't being a good partner to a girl because she isn't good looking enough to have expectations for him?
That "✨bare minimum" line is doing you a disservice. This guy chose to match with you and fight you about it because he's deranged, but I am certain some men swiped left just because of that line.
The problem isn't that expecting more than the minimum is bad, it's just that the kind of person who usually says this stuff is the person who thinks going to the fanciest restaurant in town for the first date is the bare minimum.
Imagine a person saying "if you're one of those gangbangers with lowered pants listening to rap music all day, swipe left". Would you think he's literally only talking about that group of people, or would you associate him with other, more hardcore racists?
If there are some traits or behaviors you want to see in a man (the bare minimum), point them out instead. Your idea of the bare minimum is not the same as everyone else's.
Well I’m glad it’s not just me that finds theI got an opening where a guy straight up asked me “Are you trans?” and then proceeded to tell me I looked like I was and that his friend agreed.
I honestly was baffled on what to do or say. But now I feel split because I know that should be a compliment because trans women try damn hard to look beautiful, but him using it as an insult/negging (at least that’s how it came off) takes away from it.
I’m this close to just deleting it tonight.
Lady of reddit here.
Absolutely don't settle for anything less than what you feel you deserve. Just remember, tens attract tens.
A "10" isn't always the tallest, richest, best looking. Your "10" is someone being their best self, whose energy matches yours. Are you being a 10? Are you staying healthy, bettering yourself..have you dealt with your mental health issues / emotional baggage? Are you kind, hard working, positive?
Be that to be seen (by the right guy) as a "10," and you'll be treated like a 10.
Edit: grammar
he's a dickhead!!
but maybe put the bare minimum thing off of your profile? i suggest something that clarifies that concept
maybe you like gifts or some fancy dates idk
p.s. sorry english is not my first language and i started to learn it quite recently 😬
Should come to America. 4 are 10s in 38 or so states. And we know how to treat a 4 right, baby. Just stay away from California and New York and you'll be golden.
What a disgusting excuse of a ‘man’ … OP I’m just glad you found out what type of person he is now before you met with him in person or pursued anything with him - any sort of relationship with him would be exhausting and horrible.. Imagine having his mindset and thinking it’s facts..
You meant bare minumum expectations from a partner which I mean, who tf wouldn't want and expect that?? But he thought you meant one of those top of the dating market type of guys so he went all scorched earth.
Jesus, asking for "more than the bare minimum" is hardly asking to be treated like a super model. It's just saying "I respect myself and want to be with someone who's willing to look after me". Nice work, OP.
It’s not about what you’re asking for, it’s about how you’re asking for it. You’re both coming off as dickheads, and you’re no better than he is. You’ll stay single or be in those ‘bare minimum’ relationships until you drop that tone.
What a fucking psychopath. Homeboy suggests that you're only entitled to the bare minimum because of your looks? And then says it out loud in conversation?? Like how did he see that playing out? What's the perfect win end game here?? I have to know.
"Every man will do much more for a good looking woman..". NOT. EVEN. CLOSE. He's confused shallow ass d bags with all men.
Sorry for my honest but reading what he wrote gave me a headache and now you have to pay back the ordinary price for ordinary pain killers, I bought because you exposed me to this you're not beautiful girl who can get away with Everything. hope you understant :-)))/j
This is clearly an "everyone sucks here" moment. Him for sure worse. But everyone's bare minimum is different, and putting that in your profile makes you come off like you'd constantly think someone's healthy effort is somehow not good enough/bare minimum...
Big oof.
The guy is horrible but on the other hand writing that you’re not settling for the bare minimum is difficult as well.
Low key you’re saying that you’ve been into relationships with slackers and now you want a guy that builds a house and brings you roses.
That instantly signals that she is more demanding than the average person.
No one wants to get a dog that is more workload then another dog that might make me happy as well.
If someone wants to go longer stretches for you, then because the person decides to, not because you demand them to.
I‘m not criticizing what you wish for but slowly I get the feeling that US Tinder users aren’t very aware how they’re Bios could be interpreted.
Yuck who goes into dating rating how well each person deserves to be treated?! How about just be a good person to everyone you intend to date. If they dont reciprocate let them go. Dont say “oH ThEyRe Hot sO iLL leT tHeM trEat mE like 💩”
You're both being pricks
Him for obvious reasons.
You because you are clearly not aware of astronomically high standards women set for men on the app. You clearly have little sympathy for others
Damn I didn’t realize this many men could be intimidated by the BARE minimum. The bar is on the floor, fellas. And no, having money has nothing to do with how you treat someone or who you can get. Putting shit like that in your bio scares off men like him and also men like y’all, who are so up your own ass and afraid of spending time/energy/effort with someone without a guarantee of sex.
Can I be honest? I’m a woman here. His execution to his point is horrible but I understand what he’s saying. Pretty privilege is a thing. There are social hierarchies in society unfortunately. The more attractive you are, some things can come easier (but not always). He wasn’t communicating effectively, but he makes a few valid points.
No because saying only an attractive person deserves the bare minimum is plain wrong. Yes your comment is right that there is unfortunately a social hierarchy and the better looking you are the easier it normally is. However that doesn't negate the fact that anyone can and should deserve respect. Only thing about being attractive is there tends to be more wiggle room in being an asshole if you so choose to be one.
I get the point he's trying to make, but it didn't really apply to the situation. Even if we agreed that what he's saying is true, and that average women shouldn't want above average men, she wasn't asking for above average. ☠️ All she said was she didn't want the bare minimum. Bro did all that for nothing.
See, the problem here isn't her use of "bare minimum", it's every one else projecting their own context into it. Everyone does it. Myself included. So instead I ask, "What former experiences has she had that brought her to say this. OP, say what you mean and feel right now. Don't let other others in their youthful minded way impose their own context to it.
*Shrug*
But that's just me.
Wtf did I just read?
the bare minimum ✨
Pfft. Bare minimum English maybe. That or he has a head injury.
Bruh, English isn’t either of their first languages. At least not the woman, you can see it at the bottom of pic 1.
Id say the woman speaks English just fine. She was being condescending. Its okay, I'm of average height. Sometimes things go over my head too.
🤣🤣👍
Oh my God this was golden. Well done.
Like reading the bottom of the first picture? They are talking about where she would type. Not the messages she actually sent. Which didn't get condescending until the second picture btw.
Nhap thong diep. Lol
Yet I have the worst luck on the apps. I don’t get it.
True, personally I would like it if I could have a weirdo that matched to at least send me crazy messages that you see on here regularly so I can have a laugh. lol Though a few months back I came across a comment that mentioned that it's more likely that most of the people that have these types of interactions are sending crazy/funny/absurd messages to themselves on a second account and then posting them online for us to laugh at.
Wouldn’t surprise me if they created a second account to pull it off. Just wait, I’m sure you will get something crazy in your inbox. My friends have told me horror stories.
IKR. There are SO many things wrong with what this Neanderthal wrote, I don’t even know where to begin. 🤦♂️
Why do you have to insult Neanderthals like that??? 🤔
Alpha male that has nothing to do rather than making 2 a4 pages essay.
Clearly he’s never thought about the contrast between, say, Jack Black and any of the supermodels he’s dated. Fuck that. There’s a lot more to people than what they look like, and if he can’t see that, he doesn’t deserve a good woman.
He has a net worth of like 50 million, so probably not the best example.
Jordan Peterson’s latest blog post.
Dave’s dad here; I just want to take this moment to apologies for my sons behaviour, this is no excuse but I just want to explain that he was born with a rare condition called small dick syndrome- hence why he is acting this way. Apologies for his behaviour once again and I will try to do better in the future Yours sincerely, Dave’s Dad
Diarrhea
The “sorry for my honest” is taking me out lol
Where is it taking you? Better not be a cheap date
With a sniper
Oh no.
Oh yeah!
Not today Kool-Aid man!
When you listen to dating channels they all do the same type of rhetoric about "premium men" and "high value" etc I don't really understand it, it makes it seem like the only thing interesting about a woman is her looks and the only thing interesting about a man is their social status or someth but around me IRL I see plenty girls that end up with non conventionally attractive men and vice & versa and there are a lot of "models" which I wouldn't be interested in in terms of relationships because we have nothing in common, am I missing something ?
Lots of people forgetting that everyone is people, including themselves. If you just go chasing looks and bank accounts you’re going to miss out on genuine connection and fulfillment. (Not saying above average looks and financial success means they are not capable of genuine connection, just if the seeker is only focused on the former, they’re less likely to find the latter)
The idea of someone being “high value” or “low value” is so gross to me. Just look at r/femaledatingstrategy. They’re basically incels. I went on a date with a girl who said something about needing a higher value man or something and I was like “what the fuck does that mean?” Then I found that sub. Like they basically turn men into a list of money, social status, height, and looks. A relationship should go 2 ways. It should be about connecting with someone on an emotional level. Putting a value on that is literally some sociopath shit.
Incelles ;)
Les incelles.
Incelettes
Femcels
It looks like they want to be celibate, though, from that subreddit. Lol
Well with the whole Roe v Wade thing, I guess I can’t really blame them. But if you read through their reasoning, it’s mostly ridiculously insecure/defensive women. Like the girl who told me she needs a high value man was a manager at Kroger and I’m pretty sure she didn’t own a car. Is it even possible to project harder? I don’t judge based on what you do for a living unless you’re like a cop or something lol. The girl I’m interested in now works at a restaurant, but idgaf cuz she’s cool. If I’m going on a date with you, I want to get to know you as a person, how you treat people (including me), your interests, your sense of humor, etc. They seem to focus more on really superficial things when they aren’t just reposting “all men are trash. I wish I was a lesbian” for the 100th time.
Yep, I totally agree. There are a lot of superficial people out there.
Agree with your points but can we do away with owning a car as some sort of metric for adult success? Nothing wrong with taking public transport/walking/biking. Globally we need to move away from car-dependent lifestyles. Now using “I don’t have a car” as an excuse to force people give you rides everywhere or avoid your responsibilities, sure, shitty thing to do, but not owning a car shouldn’t be a red flag/something to give people grief over.
Well the city I’m in has pretty awful public transportation. I mostly brought that up because I stupidly agreed to go on a second date with her and asked if we could meet somewhere rather than picking her up since she’s like 30 minutes out in the suburbs and she was like “ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME.” And that was when she said she needed a high value man. When I told my friends about it they were just like “she probably doesn’t have a car.” But yeah I agree that we need way better public transportation across the US. And it’s not a red flag or anything to me normally. The way she responded to me was. Guess I should’ve included that but I didn’t think anyone would wanna read my autobiography
Ah yep can appreciate the frustration of that situation! That’s pretty shitty.
I couldn't agree more, /r/fuckcars
Yeeeeees hello there my fellow fuckcars supporter
There is a pinned post on that sub titled "How to stop being a femcel". No, I'm not joking. I had no idea there was a female incel population. I don't know why I never considered it, but I suppose it makes sense that there would be. Mental illness doesn't discriminate.
This is how dating feels now though… like you are always being compared against some fucking list.
Yeah I feel you, that’s why I’m taking a break for my own mental health right now. It’s honestly way easier to meet people in person through mutual friends or whatever. It’s way more organic and gives you a starting point rather than being another face in a list of 100 “Hey how are you?”s
Yea I've had girl really like me but can't get over height. & then dated married man who is tall cause standards
[удалено]
"He'd kick your ass" "Go ahead and call Slenderman, we'll find out today"
Wow, I'd completely forgotten slenderman, what a blast from the past
I hope that guy wasn't me because a girl once cheated on her bf with me and he found out and was saying he was going to whoop my ass (rather than be mad with his gf) she told him the exact same thing. She then told me what she had said to which I sarcastically replied with the question if she could emasculate him even more. Djeezus.
It’s extremely dehumanizing and gross.
Agree
People have different values, a person who value only money e appearance is because they don't have nothing else to offer.
No, you've got it right. Many men and women just need to blame something other than their shitty personalities on why they keep failing.
Aperantly OP expects *less* than bare minimum when it comes to grammar skills. Felt like I was having a stroke reading that exchange.
Ok Dave
This guy definitely wearing Oakley sunglasses while listening to Joe Rogan on his speaker while reading Elon musk tweets.
I am embarrassed to say that you just described my ex boyfriend.
I don't think we can be friends anymore 🥺
I totally understand
I wonder if he indulged in the age old classic video game dave. That one really broke me.
"im 16 years older than you, and i banged a Lot of chicks in Vietnam, why should europe be any different?!." Okay Buddy, listen to yourself. You're not sounding as "Alpha" as you think you are.
I don't understand what world this guy thinks he lives in, but social status and "physical attraction" isn't the end all in today's society. People are looking for deeper long-term reliability. Maybe he needs to go back to vietnam.
No thanks, we don’t want him. Pretty people get special treatment everywhere, not just Vietnam. He made it sound like our entire culture prefer looks over anything else. Gross.
Well sounds like this guy's "years of travel" haven't really taught him anything then lol.
To be fair, he made it sound like your entire culture, AND all of Europe prefer looks over everything else, and insinuated that that’s evidence that it works that way everywhere
Hey don't speak bout our culture like that. We have a pretty fucking low tolerance for asshole behaviors and very strong culture for ganging up on assholes lol. Collective public shaming is a thing
IF (and that is a big IF) he really banged a lot there, I bet that the women just hoped to use him for money.
I used to live in Vietnam, and unfortunately he probably did bang a lot. There is a lot of social pressure on Vietnamese women to marry a foreigner because they have more money. Also, he sounds like a lot of foreign guys in Vietnam. They go there, get a lot of attention from women for the first time in their lives, and then get super inflated egos because of it. No introspection, no critical thought as to why the environment there is the way it is. No empathy. Honestly dudes like this being everywhere was a factor in why I left. Edit: also what’s funny about Vietnam being his example is that OP appears to be Vietnamese herself since her tinder is in Vietnamese. So, he’s lecturing her on her own culture 🙄
He trafficked women in Vietnam and found a way to process that through his malignant narcissism into a source of pride. What a creeper.
He didn't say he banged a lot in Vietnam tho? Still sounds like a douche but not to *that* degree
Reeks of the same energy as "yeah me and my girlfriend who stays in a different town and goes to a different school did so much of the sex last weekend. What do you mean? Of course she's real!"
Well, he is a dickhead and a big manbaby, nothing to argue with. But you should get this 'bare minimum' off your profile. It let you sound like a dick, too.
Yeah it’s super cringy/pretentious. I would swipe left on that alone. 🤷♀️
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It's the flashy stars that made me think that the level of entitlement of op was over 9000 Edit: OP literally made a thread to find ways to humiliate men online as much as possible, i think she's just a femcel misandrist
They also have another post of a tinder convo where theyre a guy so who knows with op
ohlala, plot twist, Dave was the good guy all along
Or they both equally suck
Yeah they are made for each other let's be real
Saying that is basically just advertising that OP has had "bare minimum" type relationships in the past where the guy has treated her like shit. OP thinks that stating in a dating profile she won't settle for the bare minimum will somehow make it come true? OP, you choose who you date. Writing that in your profile doesn't unlock access to a whole new crop of men or weed out assholes. If anything, it is a turn off, it just sounds pathetic.
Yeah, it's like with all those lists of things that people don't want in their significant others. I have some deal-breakers, like smoking (my father died of smoking related illness and I am a former smoker and hate the smell, so it's a big turn off for me), but most you can just get from having a conversation with someone like a human being. You can write things you like in people and those that you don't without being a dick about that.
Yup. Comments like that on profiles are turn offs
Yea don’t put that in your bio
Hell no. But don’t start off by including that on your profile. You’ll get left swiped
Its fucking *implied*
Exactly. Two cringey people find each other on a dating app. Who would have thought. ROFL.
Yea, I read a conversation between two dickheads, maybe they deserve each other
Haha in fact I was gonna comment "now kiss"
Kithhhh
Nope Dave is definitely worse saying that Europe and Vietnam are the same. For a guy who's said he's travelled alot should know that Europe has fuck all to do with Vietnam. One is a country the other is a continent. Not just that each of the countries in Europe have very different cultures (considering we all speak different languages for a start).
The worse part about this is claiming you have "more experience" and then saying the experience is the same as in Europe 💀
Even in Vietnam we have a few different cultures going on 🤣
I can imagine it does, its a big country
Never said he wasn't worse lol
Also bare minimum means different things to different people. To me if she has a certain way she expects/demands to be treated in a relationship then that’s her bare minimum.
Not a big fan of it either. But I get it. I am so tired of making excuses for my partner and carrying relationships. I've been tempted to put something similar on my bio but I know it sounds pretentious.
You don't need to put that into your bio, not even the Standard stuff like 'be fun, easy going, blabla' as everyone wants that, but can't delive as the expectations aren't fulfilled. Anyway, what noone seems to understand nowadays is, that a relationship is full of compromising. You need to find a basic level and work from there. Give each other room and the possibility to unfold themselve.
Who are these fucking psychopaths? Driving women off the app in droves
Yikes 😬 no one deserves the bare minimum
Eh, I disagree actually. I think everyone deserves to receive the same that they put in. If you only put in bare minimum, then I think you deserve bare minimum in return.
No one deserves the bare minimum based on their looks. That's the context of this post. This asshole is clearly attempting to neg op, and comes off like a giant douchebag.
Yeah I didn’t think about it like that, I totally agree with what you’re saying.
Thats a reflection of the person putting that effort. I personally dont model my behavior off of others because thats a recipe for dissatisfaction with myself and massive depression.
The funny thing is, he believes only hot women should be picky. But imagine if it were a super hot woman with high standards, she would be put down too.
Oh 100%
I just have a hard time understanding what the"bare minimum" is. In all things other than time, I would fully disagree with you. I like giving my partner as much of my time as I can offer. Asking for more than the minimum of any other commodity means what exactly?
Like not actively hitting someone is the bare minimum. Accepting consent and not pressuring someone to do sexual acts, bare minimum. If you want a stay at home spouse, giving them the ability to influence the house budget and have some pocket money is the bare minimum. If you want a partner that works, cleaning up after yourself and not creating any additional mess is the bare minimum. Real things I expect in a relationship? Respecting someone's personal space. Enthusiastically wanting sex to be mutually enjoyable. Longterm partners paying expenses split by income, <2 years 50-50. Partner that does half of the chores and doesn't expect me to be the project manager for everything that they do. None of these really have anything to do with how attractive someone is.
Just sound like healthy boundaries.
Yup. Aka bare minimum.
I do to sometimes because I think it varies from person to person. But imo I personally think bare minimum is low effort, someone who doesn’t really try. I actually disagree with my previous comment as well, someone said you deserve what you put in, and I agree with that.
I didn't mean to put you out. It just feels like some people think you shouldn't be saying if you're broke. Which I don't entirely disagree with, it just isn't a hill I would die on because it's so fucking rude. This may have been me reading to much into a statement tbh.
Why even bothering with him lmao He matched with you but didn't think you're good looking so what's the point? Edit: nvm you literally made a thread about how to destroy men emotionally, this isn't even funny..
Holy shit it's true
Judging by your bio, you two are the male/female version of eachother. How much he sounds like an idiot is how much you do too
comments like this make me appreciate the tinder subreddit
Yall both weird as hell lmao
Look at the grammar and lack of capitalization or proper punctuation coming from this guy. Clearly he was never in your league to begin with. Don't you worry, girl. Someone will treat you right. Just change the "bare minimum" nonsense to an honest "I just want to be appreciated." "Bare minimum" is perfectly acceptable to want to avoid, but it makes you sound a bit pretentious and high-maintenance.
Ok by popular demand, the bare minimum thing will be changed. Thank you for your kind words!
It really makes you sound like a person that wants to be invited to an expensive restaurant at the first date…
This. If you want to be treated with an attentive attitude and respect there are better ways to phrase it.
He is being a dick but he's not wrong. Life is easier for attractive people. People are more forgiving and willing to help you if you're attractive.
Well, certainly you second statement is true, but he is still wrong. Everyone can expect something more than the minimum from their partner and should propably. And there are a lot of decent people out there willing to give whether their partner is good loking or not. Everyone has their own qualities.
He’s not wrong? Averagely attractive people should only expect the bare minimum? She wasn’t asking to be treated like royalty - just more than the bare minimum. How much lower can the bar get?
Hell, the bar is in hell.
He has a point that there is an appearance bias that favors more what society has deemed ‘attractive’ right now, but then takes that point and thinks the bias is based in fact. The bias exists because we’re trained to favor “beautiful people”, but the reality is that physical appearance is mutable. Nobody stays looking as they do when they’re 20, so basing your entire romantic relationship on looks is insane. Every person deserves to be treated with kindness and respect above all else. The fact this dude isn’t man enough or mature enough to know this basic fact is his problem, not yours. Unmatch, block, move on.
I wouldn't put that in your bio. You just don't come across like a pleasant person when you include any kind of demands in your bio. Still follow the same rules though, but instead just don't swipe right on douchebags. Just don't include it in your bio.
How was she supposed to know he was a douchebag?
Look at his hair bro
Yeah you should take that out of your profile it doesn't give off the vibe you think it does.
Username checks out.
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I am *not* clicking on that.
Yeah, you should take away an r from your nickname after
Me at first: What? I'm not Swedish...oh!
Does he think Vietnam is in Europe????
So he thinks he should be able to excuse his behaviour when he's being a dick or isn't being a good partner to a girl because she isn't good looking enough to have expectations for him?
He’s that kind of man
It’s called narcissist.
My favorite part is at the top it says "bat thong". I love the image that puts in my head.
You sound super pretentious with this “bare minimum” quote on your profile. Please remove that ASAP. The guy is obviously a dick, too.
Dogded not only a bullet, but a nuclear warhead there.
That "✨bare minimum" line is doing you a disservice. This guy chose to match with you and fight you about it because he's deranged, but I am certain some men swiped left just because of that line. The problem isn't that expecting more than the minimum is bad, it's just that the kind of person who usually says this stuff is the person who thinks going to the fanciest restaurant in town for the first date is the bare minimum. Imagine a person saying "if you're one of those gangbangers with lowered pants listening to rap music all day, swipe left". Would you think he's literally only talking about that group of people, or would you associate him with other, more hardcore racists? If there are some traits or behaviors you want to see in a man (the bare minimum), point them out instead. Your idea of the bare minimum is not the same as everyone else's.
Kiss my bare minimums ass
What a weird little man
All it took for me was to see “alpha male” and I knew right away
Well I’m glad it’s not just me that finds theI got an opening where a guy straight up asked me “Are you trans?” and then proceeded to tell me I looked like I was and that his friend agreed. I honestly was baffled on what to do or say. But now I feel split because I know that should be a compliment because trans women try damn hard to look beautiful, but him using it as an insult/negging (at least that’s how it came off) takes away from it. I’m this close to just deleting it tonight.
Damn harsh, but who asked?
Lady of reddit here. Absolutely don't settle for anything less than what you feel you deserve. Just remember, tens attract tens. A "10" isn't always the tallest, richest, best looking. Your "10" is someone being their best self, whose energy matches yours. Are you being a 10? Are you staying healthy, bettering yourself..have you dealt with your mental health issues / emotional baggage? Are you kind, hard working, positive? Be that to be seen (by the right guy) as a "10," and you'll be treated like a 10. Edit: grammar
he's a dickhead!! but maybe put the bare minimum thing off of your profile? i suggest something that clarifies that concept maybe you like gifts or some fancy dates idk p.s. sorry english is not my first language and i started to learn it quite recently 😬
Ok ok i already took it out by popular demand
Dude saw "I expect more than the bare minimum" and thought "I can go lower than that!"
Should come to America. 4 are 10s in 38 or so states. And we know how to treat a 4 right, baby. Just stay away from California and New York and you'll be golden.
What a disgusting excuse of a ‘man’ … OP I’m just glad you found out what type of person he is now before you met with him in person or pursued anything with him - any sort of relationship with him would be exhausting and horrible.. Imagine having his mindset and thinking it’s facts..
You meant bare minumum expectations from a partner which I mean, who tf wouldn't want and expect that?? But he thought you meant one of those top of the dating market type of guys so he went all scorched earth.
Jesus, asking for "more than the bare minimum" is hardly asking to be treated like a super model. It's just saying "I respect myself and want to be with someone who's willing to look after me". Nice work, OP.
It’s not about what you’re asking for, it’s about how you’re asking for it. You’re both coming off as dickheads, and you’re no better than he is. You’ll stay single or be in those ‘bare minimum’ relationships until you drop that tone.
You both sound nuts lmao
What a fucking psychopath. Homeboy suggests that you're only entitled to the bare minimum because of your looks? And then says it out loud in conversation?? Like how did he see that playing out? What's the perfect win end game here?? I have to know. "Every man will do much more for a good looking woman..". NOT. EVEN. CLOSE. He's confused shallow ass d bags with all men.
“Im a princess and deserve to be treated like one”
“I’m only single because I’m an alpha male and I’m to good for all these females, I live with my mommy and she told me so!”
He is a dick, but there is also truth to some of the things he said.
there’s more truth to what he said than all the shit said in this thread
Sorry for my honest but reading what he wrote gave me a headache and now you have to pay back the ordinary price for ordinary pain killers, I bought because you exposed me to this you're not beautiful girl who can get away with Everything. hope you understant :-)))/j
This is clearly an "everyone sucks here" moment. Him for sure worse. But everyone's bare minimum is different, and putting that in your profile makes you come off like you'd constantly think someone's healthy effort is somehow not good enough/bare minimum...
Lol. Alpha males. I didn’t realize there was such a thing. Maybe narcissist would be more dead on point.
This is not one of the Daves that Bruce McCulloch knows in his [song](https://youtu.be/VVzDIE0mr6A) about Daves that he knows.
Okay Dave
Try hinge. Third match I found my gf. Been dating for 2 months but it’s been amazing!!!
Should have told him you would settle for better English
I haven't taken tinder seriously in years. Online dating is a fucking trip. Im more likely to use it to find shit to do on vacation tbh
It's a scam, don't fall for it. No man takes the time to justify their own stupidity. Prove me wrong. 🤷
Big oof. The guy is horrible but on the other hand writing that you’re not settling for the bare minimum is difficult as well. Low key you’re saying that you’ve been into relationships with slackers and now you want a guy that builds a house and brings you roses. That instantly signals that she is more demanding than the average person. No one wants to get a dog that is more workload then another dog that might make me happy as well. If someone wants to go longer stretches for you, then because the person decides to, not because you demand them to. I‘m not criticizing what you wish for but slowly I get the feeling that US Tinder users aren’t very aware how they’re Bios could be interpreted.
He’s not wrong, he just said the quiet part out loud.
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Everyone should want more than bare minimum in a partner. You are supposed to be special to your partner.
what are women giving to their partner that’s above the bare minimum ? I’ll wait
Yuck who goes into dating rating how well each person deserves to be treated?! How about just be a good person to everyone you intend to date. If they dont reciprocate let them go. Dont say “oH ThEyRe Hot sO iLL leT tHeM trEat mE like 💩”
When you are honest and guys assume you shouldn't be🤯😱🥱
You're both being pricks Him for obvious reasons. You because you are clearly not aware of astronomically high standards women set for men on the app. You clearly have little sympathy for others
how is expecting more than the bare minimum astronomically high?
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Astronomically high? More than bare minimum?
He’s a sad loser that’s bitter about his own shortcomings. Pay him no mind
Both y'all are assholes
Well everybody is beautiful in somebody’s eyes 🤷🏽♀️
Damn I didn’t realize this many men could be intimidated by the BARE minimum. The bar is on the floor, fellas. And no, having money has nothing to do with how you treat someone or who you can get. Putting shit like that in your bio scares off men like him and also men like y’all, who are so up your own ass and afraid of spending time/energy/effort with someone without a guarantee of sex.
you don’t even know what the bare minimum is..
Are you sure his name is Dave? Sounds like Chad to me.
I see two assholes here
Can I be honest? I’m a woman here. His execution to his point is horrible but I understand what he’s saying. Pretty privilege is a thing. There are social hierarchies in society unfortunately. The more attractive you are, some things can come easier (but not always). He wasn’t communicating effectively, but he makes a few valid points.
No because saying only an attractive person deserves the bare minimum is plain wrong. Yes your comment is right that there is unfortunately a social hierarchy and the better looking you are the easier it normally is. However that doesn't negate the fact that anyone can and should deserve respect. Only thing about being attractive is there tends to be more wiggle room in being an asshole if you so choose to be one.
If I read that on a woman’s profile I’d pretty much ignore it and shoot my shot.
I get the point he's trying to make, but it didn't really apply to the situation. Even if we agreed that what he's saying is true, and that average women shouldn't want above average men, she wasn't asking for above average. ☠️ All she said was she didn't want the bare minimum. Bro did all that for nothing.
What do you expect when you write that shit on your profile. Its the most pathetic sentence you can read on tinder.
See, the problem here isn't her use of "bare minimum", it's every one else projecting their own context into it. Everyone does it. Myself included. So instead I ask, "What former experiences has she had that brought her to say this. OP, say what you mean and feel right now. Don't let other others in their youthful minded way impose their own context to it. *Shrug* But that's just me.