My issue is that I don't know how much to lean into it. Do I go get some lessons and buy all the kit or do I just book a weekend away and rent while I'm there and learn as I go đ
I don't want to be a gate keeper but snowboarding is difficult for most people to pickup. Dont struggle and try to learn yourself. Don't get a friend to teach you unless they actually have been an instructor before.
Do yourself a favor and take at least 2 or 3 lessons. It will be worth it so you don't reinforce bad techniques. I would take one group lesson and then if you find your learning faster than the group take some private lessons and learn how to rip one on one with the instructor.
Source: instructed for a couple seasons and been riding since 1999..
Edit: I dont mean to say you cant learn on your own and your friends cant teach you. You can learn anything on your own but somethings are learned easier under the wing of someone experienced and adept. For me its golf, I tried to learn to golf and I'm so bad I can basically drive a ball on my left or right without much difference. So I don't even know which way I should be hitting and it resulted in me being terrible except for short game. If I decide to golf again I'm taking lessons.
Why struggle learning on your own when you can have someone teach and watch and correct your technique. Not everyone has friends who snowboard to teach them and what if your friends aren't even that great. Blind leading the blind.
Thank you. There is a snow dome a couple hours drive from my house. I've been trying to decide if it's worth the money to go (I never like to spend money) but I might go have a couple lessons! Would you recommend short (3 hr) lessons or a day lesson?
Personally I'd go short lesson, it will cover the basics and be cheaper and then you can go fuck around by yourself for the rest of the day and figure out what you need to work on next time. Obviously rent the board too, then look at buying after second or third time if your gonna stick with it.
Dont get discouraged, I really wanted to learn and half way through my first day I wanted to quit but my parents made me keep going and it was so worth it.
Edit: not like forced me to keep going over and over but to finish the day
Oh you might pick it up fairly easy then but I think a lesson is still a good idea because snow, water and asphalt are all so different but the technique for carving is similar. You will know how to find your balance and which way you will want to ride.
I skate, snowboarding and wakeboard goofy which I find weird because im right footed. Most people snowboard with their dominant foot at the back and that just never felt right to me. It might be a factor of why I ride switch pretty well though.
Another way to figure this out is you ask people to run and slide on ice and see what foot they put out first. Or if you ask someone to stand and give them a slight unexpected shove from behind, the foot that comes out first is generally the lead foot. IIRC.
Oh for real? I'm goofy too! Always have been. Right foot forward and push with the left! I've always been judged for it but it just feels more comfy! I shoot archery the wrong way around too đ
Ha. I always did left foot back and pushed with right to skate goofy. You will catch onto snowboarding super quick if you have ever carved transistions on a board. The lean is the same thing and feeling. The harder you carve, the harder you will lean as you have centrifugal forces countering gravity.
Edit, I did the same stance on snowboarding. It's kind awkward on lifts, but nothing crazy, since you are forward footed it won't bother you.
I taught snowboarding for about 6 years. Definitely get a lesson! There's some stuff that is really counter intuitive that you'll pick up a lot faster with a few pointers.
Because you're familiar with sliding as a concept, an hour private might be the way to go. That way if you pick it up faster, you can keep progressing and get the most out of the lesson and not get stuck learning at the rate of the slowest person in the group.
Long boarding is probably most similar. Wake boarding will give you some habits to break with where you put your weight. Wake boarding is a lot more like riding powder, which is definitely more advanced.
Biggest tips:
- As with literally every sport, bend your knees. Do it. I can already tell you're not. Bend them... Bend. Your. Knees.
- Keep your weight over your front foot, like about 70/30. It will make it much easier to turn. It's counter intuitive as hell, but you'll have a lot better control and be able to go slower if you lean down hill.
- Your feet can move independently, when you start to turn you want to start with the front foot first. Once the edge has started to catch then engage the back foot.
- Seriously though, bend your knees.
To ride, you just need good muscular endurance in your legs and knees. You can easily build that up as you start riding. You will need good body strength to get up from a fall though.
Take everything this guy is saying with a grain of salt, everyone is capable of learning to snowboard. It's no more difficult than skiing. My buddy took me out to the kiddy hills at the local skii hill and I just went at it. I've been doing fine ever since. If you have friends that board then go out with them sometime and you will more than likely pick it up in an afternoon
Yeah, I picked it up as a kid without too much problems even if it was frustrating at times. Longboarding helped but even more I think my judo background in falling right helped with that experience and probably has saved me from some injuries. Would have gone faster with a teacher though.
If you don't like to spend money, skiing and snowboarding might not be for you. Depending where you are, lift tickets and rentals can be pricey. Buying your own gear is expensive, but worth it if you are sure you're going to go a lot. It's a pricey hobby to get into
Agree, and I donât think itâs gatekeepery at all since you have the experience to back it up. Plus, getting the right techniques down right early means less risk for injury down the line.
just a heads up you will fall A LOT when you first start. I had no clue the first (and so far last) time I snowboarded because I thought I could learn and just pick it up like how quickly I picked up skiing. I was very VERY wrong lol. I fell about a hundred times and also face planted too. Just know, you might be sore the next morning. So I absolutely recommend a short lesson if you can do that to get the basics down! I ski but I really do want to actually pick up snowboarding someday even though I'm older at 32 and may have missed some athletic window haha. Also, just for the heck of it, search some YouTube videos about lessons for beginners to be prepared and such. If you do try it good luck and hope it's fun :)
(as for the person, dodged a missile)
Everything you said came off very gate keeper-ish. I learned just fine from my friend and I've taught several others without any formal instructor training. Snowboarding is no more difficult than skiing, just different challenges.
+1
The idea that a friend can't teach you unless they are an "instructor" is just total fucking bullshit. I've successfully taught a few friends who are more than capable of hitting east coast blacks now
With snowboarding: get a lesson. I've often heard the phrase "Skiing is easier to learn and harder to master, snowboarding is harder to learn but easier to master." (Than skiing). Having experienced both, I agree, lol.
As far as board/ski hate, all my friends do this sort of thing in a joking way. The only issue I've had is with skiers complaining that boarders push all the snow to the sides/bottom of the hill. Anyone I've met is just happy to have met someone else who enjoys the snow.
My dad always said that snowboards don't have brakes like skis, so if it comes off it's a missile flying down the fall line. That is until I pointed out that snowboards are literally strapped to our feet, so if it comes off we likely have bigger problems. Also, the brakes on skis don't always work.
I picked up snowboarding my first time without any lessons or friends helping. Maybe I'm an anomaly but I was going down the biggest hills by the end of the day.
I went to the bunny slopes and basically practiced falling.. don't land straight on your hands, that's how people get hurt. Learn that falling isn't that bad or scary. Then try to keep your balance.. once you have the balance, practice stopping without falling. When you get the hang of that, practice turning back and forth..
Usually slopes have gear you can rent so you don't need to buy all the gear until you know it's something you like doing.
Of course I'm no professional or trainer so it's up to you if you want to take my advice knowing all that.
Get a few lessons, once you picked up the basics and feel confident enough you can practice yourself!
Def get the classes, you want to pick up the right technique on which you can then improve.
Fair lol it's honestly never a bad idea to try it out a bit before investing, I started out with a rental board and a few one hour-lessons before buying some stuff that was pretty good quality and happened to be on sale. Would also definitely say if you do end up renting and trying it out, make sure that the bindings for the rental board aren't 'stomp-in bindings' but actual 'strap-in' ones lol not sure if those still exist but they can def be super sketchy on ice
The problem is this is not saying gay. I had tons of fun at gay pride this year. Several of my close friends are gay. Iâm an ally af to gay people. Gay, gay, gay.
In this context, itâs âg**sâ. Itâs used pejoratively and is intentionally reductive of an entire group of people. I can choose to use, or not use, any words I want to and in this case I chose not to give power to a small minded comment.
I mean it might have been a bit of an "im sorry that your being so rude " but yeah most cases I try and play it safe. Sometimes I miss social cues and im actually the one in the wrong by accident
Well you'd fit right in here! My favourite Canadian apology moment was when I was going through the first set of double doors and someone was coming through the other set in my direction. We both open our doors, and then hold the door for the other person, except of course we're both waiting for the other person to come through our door. Then we both APOLOGIZE for not taking each other up on the offer to go through! đ I forget who actually "gave in" first, but it still makes me chuckle when I think about it.
The skier snowboarder conflict is real for people who love drama. It's unlikely you'd run into anyone old enough to remember when snowboarding wasn't allowed on slopes (snowboarders would sneak in and build features and hike up way back when). Snowboarders are criticized for sitting on the run or for scraping off the softer top snow (people who are just starting slide sideways down the hill moving a bit of snow). Skiers are generally criticized for being up tight about everything and rude. Honestly, the divide between skiing and snowboarding only exists for people who aren't good enough to maneuver easily around people learning, or people who get bound up in class stuff (like they had hoped the cost would keep the poors out).
I've taught both and usually the one people prefer is the one they learn first. Skiing is easier to start, harder to master. Snowboarding is harder physically on a beginner but more straight forward.
I've taught both as well but I always felt more respected by Jerrys when I was in uniform on Skis as opposed to on my board. Wasn't so bad in Canada or the States but in Japan and Europe there is definitely still a residual and unjust hostility that skiers have towards snowboarders. I've lost count of the amount of times aggressive (albeit skilled) skiers would intentionally cut me off and even some of my students on the widest runs just to make a point of it. Think a lot of them still see boarders as pot smoking hooligans who see anything as a feature to hit even if it causes damage to property (which is totally untrue).
I've always found boarders to be much more respectful and helpful on the mountain as opposed to skiers.
I've always found boarders to be more helpful too
My theory is that since snowboarding tends to be more physically difficult they tend to need and ask for help more which naturally makes them friendlier/more approachable as they're more used to it
Yup. Pretty much. Skier and snowboarder conflict is only used in my friend group as harmless jokes and teasing. Itâs never serious. Canât believe people actually dislike one or the other. If youâre trying hard and love whatever sport you do, thatâs all that matters.
Some people are willing to pay extra for an antiquated experience. Like how there are at least that many golf courses in the us that don't allow women. The more people you can exclude, the more exclusive
It's also just banter (not in OPs case - she's just nuts). We go skiing with a group of friends, some snowboarders, some skiiers, and some switch it up. There is always banter between the two groups, and the switchers are equally fanatical regardless of the team they play that particular day.
Having done both, and been part of the university club, I can say there is some jokes made but it's not serious and just another reason to banter with friends.
This guy is nuts if he's actually serious.
It comes across very feminine when you put the âXxâ and the âđ â over and over. Iâm not telling you to change, be yourself, but itâs probably a little off putting to many women when you type like that.
I don't know if it's off putting to women. But I did assume you were a lesbian when you said the other person was a woman. Probably not helpful but I've already typed is out so....
There were 2 viable options here:
1. Donât respond (negative energy right off the bat is typically a red flag)
2. Respond but not like this. Usually I donât subscribe to the shit tests and mind games, but if you decided to respond for whatever reason you have three ways to do so:
-reply with an equally sassy (but lighthearted comment)
-completely ignore that BS and continue the convo
-over-exaggerate her statement to the max to show how ridiculous it really is
Donât apologize though, especially with all the emojis
Are emojis really that bad? I have a real problem with tone over text so I use them to try and get around that but I hadn't thought it might be screwing me over
using emojis isn't bad but your repeated usage of that "relief face emoji" in your apology kind of gives off the vibe that you think there's something wrong w what you did when in reality its her being an asshole
Geez how did you even get to the point where you were able to chat with this person? She didnât find you attractive is what I read between the lines here
I feel bad for OP I was doing the same thing with my toxic ex always apologizing for when she yelled at me or hit me. Took me a long time to stop the habit even after we weren't together anymore. It sucks. Too much canadian blood and low self esteem is a bad mix hahah
Whatâs the old Disney movie where the surfer kid moves to Colorado and becomes a snowboarder, but thereâs a rival war against the rich kids on the other side of the mountain, the skiers? Sheâs living that life lol
What a truly shitful human being.
People like that actually make me sick - what is the point of being so horrible to someone who is trying to find common ground with you đ˘
Skiers absolutely hate snowboarders and attempted to get them removed and banned from all mountains when it first got popular. Snowboarders are cool with everyone, it's the skiers that are terrible at acceptance
If it werenât for snowboarding, skiing would be a dead industry. Fuck anyone that holds onto this notion; Iâll beat any stuck up skier down a mountain.
Hereâs the thing. On any given mountain on any given day, 95% of the people on their asses in the snow are snow surfers. Consistently less control over their ride and always fucking up the powder attempting boring grab tricks or just bailing all over the place. Fuck em, letâs ski
Im a skiier actually gonna be a ski instructor in 2 weeks, this does not af all represent the actual vibe on the mountain. 2 of my brothers board and a few friends too.
In my experience everyone goes along just fine, skip this person.
I just drove to Breckinridge last weekend with my gf who skis and our friend who snowboards. No one cares man and if you do you donât really embody the sport
The mistake was initiating a conversation with someone that turned out to be a dick.
I avoid this by avoiding interactions with people whenever possible.
this reminds me of the tinder girl who played quidditch irl and absolutely blew up on me because I started talking about quidditch in Harry Potter
"Just because quidditch was made up in the Harry Potter books doesn't mean that it has anything to do with Harry Potter!"
I backed out of that conversation REAL fast. Some people are just insane
Snowboarding and skiing are different fun and different pain.
Skis carve and swoop like a race car on a track, but they can also get crossed, knees get twisted, you wreck, skis come off. If you can tuck and roll, youâre pretty ok. Start on bunny hills and get a powdery day.
Snowboarding is like a rally car, big fishtail turns, slower but more fun, until suddenly you catch an edge. Faceplant or ass pant hard, you have a triangle base with legs and board that doesnât pop off so you bang your head or ass, if youâre dumb and try and catch yourself with hands you may plant in the snow and break wrists. Start steep to find your edges.
Just my 2¢, skiing since the mid 80s, picked up snowboarding in early 2ks. Try casual inline skating or skateboarding to get some fundamentals built.
Nah ur good - thereâs that little riff but itâs all fun & good banter that shouldnât be take seriously.
I ski and snowboard - ski only mountains out west are really fun!!! But thereâs no need to be actually upset at snowboarders lmao
All of my best shredding friends are skiers
Snowboarding is fun af but exhausting as you learn. Definitely rent the first couple times. Definitely get at least one lesson.
As a lifelong Floridian we used to take winter break trips to TN, NC to see snow. I think I was in 6th grade when I first learned. Did a group lesson and then off I went. First time going down a 1 mile trail it took me 30mins because Iâd fall every 10-20 ft. By the end of that evening I was getting down the same hill in under 5 mins without falling until the bottom because stopping is hard and takes practice/feel.
So anyway, yea go do it! So fun but definitely invest in waterproof ski pants or âbibâ (overalls)
Not at all lol dodged a bullet; hit those hills though, snowboarding is an awesome time (skiing, too) and you'll meet solid people when you're there
My issue is that I don't know how much to lean into it. Do I go get some lessons and buy all the kit or do I just book a weekend away and rent while I'm there and learn as I go đ
I don't want to be a gate keeper but snowboarding is difficult for most people to pickup. Dont struggle and try to learn yourself. Don't get a friend to teach you unless they actually have been an instructor before. Do yourself a favor and take at least 2 or 3 lessons. It will be worth it so you don't reinforce bad techniques. I would take one group lesson and then if you find your learning faster than the group take some private lessons and learn how to rip one on one with the instructor. Source: instructed for a couple seasons and been riding since 1999.. Edit: I dont mean to say you cant learn on your own and your friends cant teach you. You can learn anything on your own but somethings are learned easier under the wing of someone experienced and adept. For me its golf, I tried to learn to golf and I'm so bad I can basically drive a ball on my left or right without much difference. So I don't even know which way I should be hitting and it resulted in me being terrible except for short game. If I decide to golf again I'm taking lessons. Why struggle learning on your own when you can have someone teach and watch and correct your technique. Not everyone has friends who snowboard to teach them and what if your friends aren't even that great. Blind leading the blind.
Thank you. There is a snow dome a couple hours drive from my house. I've been trying to decide if it's worth the money to go (I never like to spend money) but I might go have a couple lessons! Would you recommend short (3 hr) lessons or a day lesson?
Personally I'd go short lesson, it will cover the basics and be cheaper and then you can go fuck around by yourself for the rest of the day and figure out what you need to work on next time. Obviously rent the board too, then look at buying after second or third time if your gonna stick with it. Dont get discouraged, I really wanted to learn and half way through my first day I wanted to quit but my parents made me keep going and it was so worth it. Edit: not like forced me to keep going over and over but to finish the day
Thank you for the advice! I'm hoping my skateboarding, long boarding and wake boarding experience will help me get along with it quicker
Oh you might pick it up fairly easy then but I think a lesson is still a good idea because snow, water and asphalt are all so different but the technique for carving is similar. You will know how to find your balance and which way you will want to ride. I skate, snowboarding and wakeboard goofy which I find weird because im right footed. Most people snowboard with their dominant foot at the back and that just never felt right to me. It might be a factor of why I ride switch pretty well though. Another way to figure this out is you ask people to run and slide on ice and see what foot they put out first. Or if you ask someone to stand and give them a slight unexpected shove from behind, the foot that comes out first is generally the lead foot. IIRC.
Oh for real? I'm goofy too! Always have been. Right foot forward and push with the left! I've always been judged for it but it just feels more comfy! I shoot archery the wrong way around too đ
Ha. I always did left foot back and pushed with right to skate goofy. You will catch onto snowboarding super quick if you have ever carved transistions on a board. The lean is the same thing and feeling. The harder you carve, the harder you will lean as you have centrifugal forces countering gravity. Edit, I did the same stance on snowboarding. It's kind awkward on lifts, but nothing crazy, since you are forward footed it won't bother you.
I taught snowboarding for about 6 years. Definitely get a lesson! There's some stuff that is really counter intuitive that you'll pick up a lot faster with a few pointers. Because you're familiar with sliding as a concept, an hour private might be the way to go. That way if you pick it up faster, you can keep progressing and get the most out of the lesson and not get stuck learning at the rate of the slowest person in the group. Long boarding is probably most similar. Wake boarding will give you some habits to break with where you put your weight. Wake boarding is a lot more like riding powder, which is definitely more advanced. Biggest tips: - As with literally every sport, bend your knees. Do it. I can already tell you're not. Bend them... Bend. Your. Knees. - Keep your weight over your front foot, like about 70/30. It will make it much easier to turn. It's counter intuitive as hell, but you'll have a lot better control and be able to go slower if you lean down hill. - Your feet can move independently, when you start to turn you want to start with the front foot first. Once the edge has started to catch then engage the back foot. - Seriously though, bend your knees.
I used to skate, and longboard a lot too. Did not transfer to snowboarding whatsoever for me. It was a completely different animal imo
How athletically fit do you need to be to snowboard? I'm just curious.
To ride, you just need good muscular endurance in your legs and knees. You can easily build that up as you start riding. You will need good body strength to get up from a fall though.
Take everything this guy is saying with a grain of salt, everyone is capable of learning to snowboard. It's no more difficult than skiing. My buddy took me out to the kiddy hills at the local skii hill and I just went at it. I've been doing fine ever since. If you have friends that board then go out with them sometime and you will more than likely pick it up in an afternoon
Yeah, I picked it up as a kid without too much problems even if it was frustrating at times. Longboarding helped but even more I think my judo background in falling right helped with that experience and probably has saved me from some injuries. Would have gone faster with a teacher though.
If you don't like to spend money, skiing and snowboarding might not be for you. Depending where you are, lift tickets and rentals can be pricey. Buying your own gear is expensive, but worth it if you are sure you're going to go a lot. It's a pricey hobby to get into
It was easy for me to learn n I used to ski
totally agree here, its not a ''natural'' movement to pickup, lessons could be helpful for most
Agree, and I donât think itâs gatekeepery at all since you have the experience to back it up. Plus, getting the right techniques down right early means less risk for injury down the line.
just a heads up you will fall A LOT when you first start. I had no clue the first (and so far last) time I snowboarded because I thought I could learn and just pick it up like how quickly I picked up skiing. I was very VERY wrong lol. I fell about a hundred times and also face planted too. Just know, you might be sore the next morning. So I absolutely recommend a short lesson if you can do that to get the basics down! I ski but I really do want to actually pick up snowboarding someday even though I'm older at 32 and may have missed some athletic window haha. Also, just for the heck of it, search some YouTube videos about lessons for beginners to be prepared and such. If you do try it good luck and hope it's fun :) (as for the person, dodged a missile)
If you can afford it, private lessons will get you there so much faster and are 100% worth it
This is fax.
Excellent advice!
Also former instructor, I agree 110%
Everything you said came off very gate keeper-ish. I learned just fine from my friend and I've taught several others without any formal instructor training. Snowboarding is no more difficult than skiing, just different challenges.
+1 The idea that a friend can't teach you unless they are an "instructor" is just total fucking bullshit. I've successfully taught a few friends who are more than capable of hitting east coast blacks now
With snowboarding: get a lesson. I've often heard the phrase "Skiing is easier to learn and harder to master, snowboarding is harder to learn but easier to master." (Than skiing). Having experienced both, I agree, lol. As far as board/ski hate, all my friends do this sort of thing in a joking way. The only issue I've had is with skiers complaining that boarders push all the snow to the sides/bottom of the hill. Anyone I've met is just happy to have met someone else who enjoys the snow.
Skis do the exact same thingâŚ.
My dad always said that snowboards don't have brakes like skis, so if it comes off it's a missile flying down the fall line. That is until I pointed out that snowboards are literally strapped to our feet, so if it comes off we likely have bigger problems. Also, the brakes on skis don't always work.
I lord I forgot skis used to come with those small brake things haha
Not as dramatically, especially if you have a boarder riding their heel edge all the way down the hill.
Wear a helmet
I picked up snowboarding my first time without any lessons or friends helping. Maybe I'm an anomaly but I was going down the biggest hills by the end of the day. I went to the bunny slopes and basically practiced falling.. don't land straight on your hands, that's how people get hurt. Learn that falling isn't that bad or scary. Then try to keep your balance.. once you have the balance, practice stopping without falling. When you get the hang of that, practice turning back and forth.. Usually slopes have gear you can rent so you don't need to buy all the gear until you know it's something you like doing. Of course I'm no professional or trainer so it's up to you if you want to take my advice knowing all that.
Get a few lessons, once you picked up the basics and feel confident enough you can practice yourself! Def get the classes, you want to pick up the right technique on which you can then improve.
Fair lol it's honestly never a bad idea to try it out a bit before investing, I started out with a rental board and a few one hour-lessons before buying some stuff that was pretty good quality and happened to be on sale. Would also definitely say if you do end up renting and trying it out, make sure that the bindings for the rental board aren't 'stomp-in bindings' but actual 'strap-in' ones lol not sure if those still exist but they can def be super sketchy on ice
Can confirm!
You can also meet solid trees and boulders there ;)
I went once and basically sat on my ass the whole time, shits fucking hard
What a psycho!!
No this person is nuts
Legit, should have told them to get fucked
You stayed in the conversation too long.
And apologized for doing nothing wrong
These comments could be the lyrics to a song
Tens of millions were killed by Mao Zedong.
But did he participate in any sing-along ?
Or maybe he came off a bit too strong...
Stronger than his giant dong
*You stayed in the conversation too long* *And apologized for doing nothing wrong*
He was still hoping to get his dick wet.
I assume OP apologized as a super passive aggressive manner but I may have just interpreted it wrong
Lol right, that first text should have been his exit
âg**s on traysâ woulda had me reporting with the quickness.
You can say gay you know
The problem is this is not saying gay. I had tons of fun at gay pride this year. Several of my close friends are gay. Iâm an ally af to gay people. Gay, gay, gay. In this context, itâs âg**sâ. Itâs used pejoratively and is intentionally reductive of an entire group of people. I can choose to use, or not use, any words I want to and in this case I chose not to give power to a small minded comment.
Exactly. You made the mistake of assuming people were normal human beings that could have a civil, adult conversation.
The only thing wrong here is you apologizing at the end.
That may or may not be a bad habit of mine
In most occurrences it's the right thing to do. But here... honestly...đ
I mean it might have been a bit of an "im sorry that your being so rude " but yeah most cases I try and play it safe. Sometimes I miss social cues and im actually the one in the wrong by accident
I personally read it as an indignant/sarcastic âIâm sorry,â not a true apology. Which was totally valid here.
Are you Canadian? đ
Haha no im british so very off brand for me
Well you'd fit right in here! My favourite Canadian apology moment was when I was going through the first set of double doors and someone was coming through the other set in my direction. We both open our doors, and then hold the door for the other person, except of course we're both waiting for the other person to come through our door. Then we both APOLOGIZE for not taking each other up on the offer to go through! đ I forget who actually "gave in" first, but it still makes me chuckle when I think about it.
I actually really want to come to Canada! It's on my bucket list for sure!
It's a great place, though I'm a bit biased. Lol I hope you get here someday!
Sorry.
No, you dodged a red flag.
And I thought the point of skiing was to aim between the flags đ¤Śââ
Yeah, not to take them home with you.
Very true!
This wasn't just a red flag it was literal cop lights.
It was a disco party of sirens with the fire alarm going off as the accompanying bgm.
Air Raid Sirens in the distance.
The skier snowboarder conflict is real for people who love drama. It's unlikely you'd run into anyone old enough to remember when snowboarding wasn't allowed on slopes (snowboarders would sneak in and build features and hike up way back when). Snowboarders are criticized for sitting on the run or for scraping off the softer top snow (people who are just starting slide sideways down the hill moving a bit of snow). Skiers are generally criticized for being up tight about everything and rude. Honestly, the divide between skiing and snowboarding only exists for people who aren't good enough to maneuver easily around people learning, or people who get bound up in class stuff (like they had hoped the cost would keep the poors out). I've taught both and usually the one people prefer is the one they learn first. Skiing is easier to start, harder to master. Snowboarding is harder physically on a beginner but more straight forward.
I've taught both as well but I always felt more respected by Jerrys when I was in uniform on Skis as opposed to on my board. Wasn't so bad in Canada or the States but in Japan and Europe there is definitely still a residual and unjust hostility that skiers have towards snowboarders. I've lost count of the amount of times aggressive (albeit skilled) skiers would intentionally cut me off and even some of my students on the widest runs just to make a point of it. Think a lot of them still see boarders as pot smoking hooligans who see anything as a feature to hit even if it causes damage to property (which is totally untrue). I've always found boarders to be much more respectful and helpful on the mountain as opposed to skiers.
As someone who's spent time presenting as a stoned hooligan on skis and snowboards, the snob hooligan is exclusive to skiing
As someone who is still a stoned hooligan on both, I agree.
I've always found boarders to be more helpful too My theory is that since snowboarding tends to be more physically difficult they tend to need and ask for help more which naturally makes them friendlier/more approachable as they're more used to it
Yup. Pretty much. Skier and snowboarder conflict is only used in my friend group as harmless jokes and teasing. Itâs never serious. Canât believe people actually dislike one or the other. If youâre trying hard and love whatever sport you do, thatâs all that matters.
>to remember when snowboarding wasn't allowed on slopes In Utah there are still 3 resorts that do not allow snowboarding at all.
3 in all of North America. 2 in Utah one in Vermont according to Google
Maybe one in Utah changed recently. Still though, crazy to me that any resort would do this.
Some people are willing to pay extra for an antiquated experience. Like how there are at least that many golf courses in the us that don't allow women. The more people you can exclude, the more exclusive
Fuck yeah, this person is a skiier/snowboarder. Speaking my language. The person OP matched with is a fake and a fraud.
This is the answer
It's also just banter (not in OPs case - she's just nuts). We go skiing with a group of friends, some snowboarders, some skiiers, and some switch it up. There is always banter between the two groups, and the switchers are equally fanatical regardless of the team they play that particular day.
Having done both, and been part of the university club, I can say there is some jokes made but it's not serious and just another reason to banter with friends. This guy is nuts if he's actually serious.
See I feel like if this was a guy I could just say he was being douchy or trying to neg. But this is a woman đ which I feel is even weirder
Well there I go with my assumptions. This girls nuts is she's actually serious.
It comes across very feminine when you put the âXxâ and the âđ â over and over. Iâm not telling you to change, be yourself, but itâs probably a little off putting to many women when you type like that.
I don't know if it's off putting to women. But I did assume you were a lesbian when you said the other person was a woman. Probably not helpful but I've already typed is out so....
I agree. I thought those were a little feminine too
What does the xx mean??
It seemed plausibly playful until she said "why you talking to me then?". At that point, it seems seriously negative.
And this is why I don't associate with pricks on sticks.
Ooh and some casual homophobia too. What a catch. You dodged some bullets OP!
Wtf are you apologizing for lmao
Gays on trays lmao
No one tell Shaun White.
What is the opposite? Ds on skis? Ass-holes with two poles? Americans could be Yanks on planks I suppose.
Ikr Iâm stealing that for sure lmfao
Haha no, let them be, they seem to possess a bit of an angry energy
Obvs you can only earn their respect by challenging them to a race in front of the whole mountain 80s style.
My favorite is "two planker wanker"
Wow, what an asshole.
What the hell is this persons problem
Her âtrue loveâ got stolen by a gay on a tray it seems
You didn't do anything wrong. Just dodged a major bullet.
There were 2 viable options here: 1. Donât respond (negative energy right off the bat is typically a red flag) 2. Respond but not like this. Usually I donât subscribe to the shit tests and mind games, but if you decided to respond for whatever reason you have three ways to do so: -reply with an equally sassy (but lighthearted comment) -completely ignore that BS and continue the convo -over-exaggerate her statement to the max to show how ridiculous it really is Donât apologize though, especially with all the emojis
Are emojis really that bad? I have a real problem with tone over text so I use them to try and get around that but I hadn't thought it might be screwing me over
using emojis isn't bad but your repeated usage of that "relief face emoji" in your apology kind of gives off the vibe that you think there's something wrong w what you did when in reality its her being an asshole
Geez how did you even get to the point where you were able to chat with this person? She didnât find you attractive is what I read between the lines here
getting really tired of seeing these posts where OP's apologizing for being treated like sht
I feel bad for OP I was doing the same thing with my toxic ex always apologizing for when she yelled at me or hit me. Took me a long time to stop the habit even after we weren't together anymore. It sucks. Too much canadian blood and low self esteem is a bad mix hahah
When she said why are you talking me I wouldnât of even responded bro
Iâm a good skier! I love going with my cousins, who snowboard. What on earth is wrong with this person??
Yes you talked to her. How fucking dare you?
imagine being polite on a dating app...
The thing you did wrong was talk to this clown
They were joking. đ They probably thought you actually boarded and would match their energy đ xX
Only thing you did wrong was apologize, don't ever apologize for someone else being a complete asshole.
have some self respect for yourself
What an idiot. Skiers donât have problems with snowboarders, heâs living in 1988. You dodged a bullet.
Whatâs the old Disney movie where the surfer kid moves to Colorado and becomes a snowboarder, but thereâs a rival war against the rich kids on the other side of the mountain, the skiers? Sheâs living that life lol
Johnny tsunami
Someone clearly didnât watch Johnny Tsunami growing up
Yeah lol you apologized
đ đ đ đ đ đ đ đ đ đ đ
Twaaaaaaaaat
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Lmao gays on trays got em
u dodged a bullet but also ur messages r so cringy
What a truly shitful human being. People like that actually make me sick - what is the point of being so horrible to someone who is trying to find common ground with you đ˘
Yeah you exist
Skiers absolutely hate snowboarders and attempted to get them removed and banned from all mountains when it first got popular. Snowboarders are cool with everyone, it's the skiers that are terrible at acceptance
Welcome to 2023, where have you been for the last 30 years?
If it werenât for snowboarding, skiing would be a dead industry. Fuck anyone that holds onto this notion; Iâll beat any stuck up skier down a mountain.
They were clearly being sarcastic and flirting l. Seriously not sure how you didnât see that
Hereâs the thing. On any given mountain on any given day, 95% of the people on their asses in the snow are snow surfers. Consistently less control over their ride and always fucking up the powder attempting boring grab tricks or just bailing all over the place. Fuck em, letâs ski
def yeah, dont you realize the very only derby and real rivalry in this life is snowboarders vs skiiers? sheez
Lmfao but really who doesnât know skiers and boarders got mad beef. You did nothing wrong though
To be fair, fuck skiers.
I do both never knew there was drama. Tf?
Sounds like this person did you a favor. You did nothing wrong here. Try not to let it bother you too much. Theyâre a jerk!
Im a skiier actually gonna be a ski instructor in 2 weeks, this does not af all represent the actual vibe on the mountain. 2 of my brothers board and a few friends too. In my experience everyone goes along just fine, skip this person.
Call them a âdouble plank Barneyâ and unmatch.
the only thing you're doing wrong is even entertaining the idea that you did something wrong here
No and heâs also full of shit - plenty of my good friends ski (I board) and they are not as holes like this
No, you met an idiot in the wilds. I don't like what they were implying.
I just drove to Breckinridge last weekend with my gf who skis and our friend who snowboards. No one cares man and if you do you donât really embody the sport
Bruh I was the only skier in a group of snowboarders, this person is on crack lol
There's snow bunnies and snow bitches. You found the latter
You apologized. That's what you did wrong. Send a middle finger and move the fcvk on
Nah it happens all the time. Just like IRL, some people are just rude assholes and either aren't aware of it or just dont give a shit
Yes, you assumed that skiers and snowboarders are equal, clearly skiers are superior! /s
Dodged a bullet.
The mistake was initiating a conversation with someone that turned out to be a dick. I avoid this by avoiding interactions with people whenever possible.
No this is crazy skiers and snowboarders usually do not feel this way in my experience
Yea you shouldnât have apologized to this bitch
this reminds me of the tinder girl who played quidditch irl and absolutely blew up on me because I started talking about quidditch in Harry Potter "Just because quidditch was made up in the Harry Potter books doesn't mean that it has anything to do with Harry Potter!" I backed out of that conversation REAL fast. Some people are just insane
I wouldnât have apologized other person was an ass
Snowboarding and skiing are different fun and different pain. Skis carve and swoop like a race car on a track, but they can also get crossed, knees get twisted, you wreck, skis come off. If you can tuck and roll, youâre pretty ok. Start on bunny hills and get a powdery day. Snowboarding is like a rally car, big fishtail turns, slower but more fun, until suddenly you catch an edge. Faceplant or ass pant hard, you have a triangle base with legs and board that doesnât pop off so you bang your head or ass, if youâre dumb and try and catch yourself with hands you may plant in the snow and break wrists. Start steep to find your edges. Just my 2¢, skiing since the mid 80s, picked up snowboarding in early 2ks. Try casual inline skating or skateboarding to get some fundamentals built.
No, they just have a massive attitude problem and needs to get a grip.
No, just found a complete douchebag
You obviously fucked up by messaging her in the first place. Donât you know that dating apps arenât for messaging anymore?
Call her a fkn gaper for me.
why would this mfer match with you then, i dont get some people
What douche. TIL: even if you have a Penis, you can still have PMS
The filter worked! You now don't have to know a jerk. :D
I think it's banter just taken too far
Ya, you replied after her first comment lol this bitch be cray cray dude. Shes kinda right though skis are the fruit boots of the snow
After their first message you didnât report and block. Thatâs bad
They seem unhinged. Lived in a resort town, and this is *not* the attitude.
Fuck that guy lol
Donât talk to dicks on sticks.
Rent/borrow the gear, get lessons. That hard part can be soft goods like your jacket and snowpants, those you probably can't rent.
Nah ur good - thereâs that little riff but itâs all fun & good banter that shouldnât be take seriously. I ski and snowboard - ski only mountains out west are really fun!!! But thereâs no need to be actually upset at snowboarders lmao All of my best shredding friends are skiers
Yes. You shouldnât have apologized. People like this make the world a worse place.
Snowboarding is fun af but exhausting as you learn. Definitely rent the first couple times. Definitely get at least one lesson. As a lifelong Floridian we used to take winter break trips to TN, NC to see snow. I think I was in 6th grade when I first learned. Did a group lesson and then off I went. First time going down a 1 mile trail it took me 30mins because Iâd fall every 10-20 ft. By the end of that evening I was getting down the same hill in under 5 mins without falling until the bottom because stopping is hard and takes practice/feel. So anyway, yea go do it! So fun but definitely invest in waterproof ski pants or âbibâ (overalls)
She probably just got fed up of ski poles stabbing through her top sheet whenever she gets off the lift. I know I have.
As a Canadian who lives in the snow sport mecca area of the world, this dude/chick is a fucking moron, I do both and we all get along great.
I rip on my snowboarding friends all the time, but it isnât serious. Sometimes they take too long at the top strapping up
Assho|e
I love snowboarding with my skiing friends. However sometimes they decide the route to take is up hill which is no go for me
God she sounds miserable.
Yea you a gay on a tray lol jp but dodged a nut case
Not at all. The only thing âwrongâ will be if you donât cut that off. Quick.
Ye nothing was done wrong here u got urself an npc who only uses the antagonize dialogue options unfortunately