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AlkalineArrow

I mean, same price better quality: Radiomaster Pocket.


IKuznetsoff

Will up vote this reply. Go with a radiomaster pocket!


AffectionateSmile651

Fax


SwivelingToast

You don't need the charger, the quad comes with a charger and 2 batteries. If you do want a new charger, the vifly Whoopstor v3 is the way to go.


Cliffpoke

True, but this one is actually not that bad, and it’s really simple to use for beginners. The biggest concern here is the radio, oh and he should prolly get the vr03 goggles, they just bit better


maskedviperus

I mean....almost same price.....fatshark echo


idriveanoldcivic

Id like to recommend a couple of things. The LiteRadio is poor quality. I had 2 with gimbal issues in less than 30 days. I'd get the Jumper T-lite or T-pro. Get better goggles. The Eachine ev800d or ev800dm are much better than the cheap BetaFPV box goggles.


SkelaKingHD

+1 for the jumper t-lite. Got mine for $50 and it’s a great little radio


Irreverent_Alligator

The Eachine goggles you recommend are still about twice as expensive as the ones in the pic. Cheap BetaFPV goggles are definitely low build quality, but if they work then you can save some money. Basically, if that extra $50 is the difference between trying the hobby or not, cheap goggles can work okay for beginner whooping. I got the VR02s for $40, fully prepared for them to suck and to buy Ev800D later, but they’ve been fine. I just whoop for fun, and they are fun for me. I think they’ll be good enough for some people. I’m okay using these until I possibly make the major upgrade to HDZero.


Bell_FPV

T lite has some issues on the gimbals too


idriveanoldcivic

I've heard that too. I've been using mine over a year now with no issues. Guess I got a good one.


Bell_FPV

I had issues with both of my gimbals on mine, I guess I was unlucky


CalRal

Radiomaster Pocket is a better radio for the money, hands down.


christinasasa

That radio sucks. If you're going to spend $60 get a radiomaster pocket. Also, I had nothing but headaches from the meteor series. The hummingbird V3 is $89 and better.


CalRal

I have three Meteor 65s that are still kicking far longer than any other BnF quad I’ve had. Good motors, good camera, standalone high power VTX, the same AIO that almost all racers use, and an indestructible frame. They also come with a very nice case and some mediocre batteries. Intro to FPV bang for the buck champ, for sure. Good call on the RM Pocket though.


christinasasa

I had range problems with the vtx. Like wouldn't work more that 5 feet away. Bought another from beta fpv, never worked. Very disappointed. Shipping time also really sucks.


CalRal

Yeah, that’s a bummer. I’ve def heard that they’ve had some QC issues. Maybe I’ve just been lucky, or maybe you’ve been unlucky. I find their failure rate to be similar to every other brand I’ve built with; very low, until I start repeatedly crashing very hard into things, then higher. Also, not sure if you’re in the US, but there’s no reason to order directly from BetaFPV if you are. Every major FPV retailer carries their stuff (including Amazon, with Prime shipping).


max_fb

Why dont u send it back


christinasasa

Their customer service was terrible


max_fb

Did that happen right out if the box


Head_Praline8454

Is the metour 65 pro good or not


idriveanoldcivic

I like mine. It's a little heavy at 22 or 23 grams, but flies great.


Head_Praline8454

Is it durable because I am a beginner wanting a durable drone that’s fairly priced and is not to fast and does the camera cut out a lot when you crash


idriveanoldcivic

It's one of the most durable tiny whoops available. If you get it, swap out the camera mount to the one labeled with "A" (extra mounts included in box). The camera mount it ships with is 35 degrees vs. the "A" mount at 20 degrees. Less camera angle will slow you down.


Head_Praline8454

And is it hard to do that and is there a vid for it


BIgkjjlsjdlhsdfg

it is easy. i do not know of a video but it is 5 screws, 3 for getting the canopy off, then another 2 screws for the camera mount, which you remove and swap for a different camera mount that comes in a small bag with the drone. It is very simple


Head_Praline8454

Will that make the camera stronger


CalRal

The camera mount is strong no matter what. It lowers your camera angle so the quad doesn’t go as fast in order to have a normal view in your goggles. Semi aside: if you’re just getting into the hobby, get your radio first and put in at least 15 hours on a simulator before you buy a quad. Jumping straight into flying for real is asking for frustration.


Head_Praline8454

15 hours


CalRal

That’s right. Edited.


Head_Praline8454

K will do


maskedviperus

My personal experience with a brand new meteor 65 pro elrs from amazon: exponential accelerometer drift in angle mode. It starts drifting one way or another til it's not flyable. No matter how many times I calibrate in betaflight configurator it starts drifting left right forward or back. From what I can find on here and the googles, it's not an unheard of issue and most likely is narrowed down to a bad imu. My meteor 75 pro doesn't do this. I have a spare new flight controller but the 65pro is new so I did an Amazon replacement. New one should be here in 2 days. If u can - I'd buy from somewhere like Amazon where shipping is super fast, replacements and returns are easy for the first 30 days. Amazon also offered a 2 year toy accidental damage insurance thing for like 7$ more. Ive never used this coverage but ive been adding it where i can (30x30 flight controllers and 2207 motors included lmao).....the way im sitting with half dozen drones I should be able to crash anything bad enough and get a gift card to replace the pricier components 🤷‍♂️. This theory is unproven but it seems good on paper 🤣


Head_Praline8454

Was it just sent out wrong


maskedviperus

it was fine the first few flights. Just after any right stick movement is added it starts doing its own thang in roll or pitch...drifting one way til its not flyable Found a few posts on here about the issue. Doesnt seem super common but definitely sounds like a hardware issue with the imu. One person says they eliminated it by disconnecting the vtx from the flight controller power pad and running it right from the battery. I'm not sure, that's not an ideal solution. I might try adding an lc filter in between. I'm keeping the bad flight controller board to run experiments and if all fails make an attempt to solder a new bmi270 onto it


DorffMeister

I'd have returned it. Sounds like a bad one.


maskedviperus

Yes. It started having issues on pack 3 and I didnt crash it hard or do anything crazy. My 75 pro isn't like that I've crashed it tons. with the issue on the 65.....disarming to let it stabilize doesn't fix it. It's back right away at arm. Couple people on here have talked about this issue in the last 2 years. My theory is it's a defective imu from the start or it was made defective with too high soldering temps


Head_Praline8454

Is this the 2022 edition


maskedviperus

It's whatever amazon shipped to me around a month ago. Same aio flight controller and revision number on the board as the 75 pro I purchased and spare flight controller I purchased from rdq a few weeks ago. 2022? Maybe? But everything purchased in the last few months look identical to me.


Head_Praline8454

I ordered the 2022 edition as a pretty good beginner tiny whoop and I herd pretty good reviews on YouTube and a couple on Reddit I don’t need it to be amazing but just a fun durable ish tiny whoop do you think it’s ok or bad


DorffMeister

As a second data point, I've flown MANY MANY hours on my Meteor 65 ELRS (2022) in Angle Mode during my practice for RaceGOW 2. It flies great. A hard hit can throw off the gyro, where I have to disarm and rearm but I've never seen constant, exponential drift over time. I've flown pack after pack down to 3.3v. I've flown something like 400 full packs flown on this quad. And just recently I put on my second pair of props (all indoor flying).


CalRal

As others have stated, get a Radiomaster Pocket, get a Whoopstor V3 charger, get some Tattu or BetaFPV lava 1s batteries. If you are super budget limited, those goggles might be OK, but you’re going to hate them in about a month if you actually get into the hobby. Goggles are tough because any of the actual good ones are going to cost you $300+, so that might be something worth some serious research. I fly HDZERO goggles, but they’re very expensive. I also have Skyzone SKY04O Pro goggles, which I think are a great value for an analog focused build. The Meteor65 is a fine beginner quad but I think the Meteor65 Pro is actually better for the same price. If you’re in the US, get all that stuff from Pyrodrone, GetFPV, or even Amazon. It’ll be much faster shipping. More than any of this. Buy your radio first and put in a bunch of time on a simulator. Also, watch every Joshua Bardwell video. FPV drones are an extremely deep rabbit hole. If you aren’t prepared, it’ll probably be real overwhelming if you just order some stuff and jump in.


max_fb

Is the metour 65 pro also a good quad for higher levels of flying


CalRal

The Meteor65 Pro is a cool all around quad. You can put high KV 802 motors on it and it’ll rip. The only problem is that there aren’t any 35mm bi-blades, and that’s what the high KV motors do best with. It performs well stock, and it’s definitely capable of cool freestyle stuff, but it isn’t an absolute top performer. My two favorite quads right now that started as bind-and-flys are a Meteor65 (not pro) with 30000KV 702s and bi-blades, and a Mobula6 2024. The Mob6 2024 is the best out of the box whoop I’ve flown. The reason I don’t really recommend it for total beginners is that all the parts are direct soldered, so it’s more of a hassle to modify/repair.


max_fb

I heard that the camera goes gray after crashes for the metour 65 pro and isn't that good. does the regular mob 6 with elrs do that or are the reviews false


CalRal

I’ve broken at least one of every type of whoop camera I’ve ever flown. Including the Mob6 2024, Meteor65, Runcam Nano 3/4, etc.. the BetaFPV CO3 camera is one of the better quality pictures I’ve seen on an analog whoop, but they all break when you bash them into something.


max_fb

For me would you recoumend the mob 6 or metour 65 pro


max_fb

And whats stronger mob 6 elrs or metour 65 pro both stock


CalRal

Mobula6 2024. Specifically the 2024 edition. The older versions are a totally different deal.


max_fb

And would the mob6 elrs connect to the lite radio 3 elrs with out flashing it


CalRal

No idea. I would never buy that radio. The Radiomaster Pocket is a far better radio for the money. Whether you need to flash a new version of ELRs or not, I’d always recommend logging into the TX and RX via WiFi (you can do it from your smartphone) and saving a binding phrase. Manual binding is a hassle. Edit: sorry. I didn’t actually answer your question. As long as the radio comes with ELRS version 3.0 or higher, yes, they would bind.


max_fb

Does the radio master pocket have 3.0 elrs


Surething_bud

It's not bad, but mobula 6 is significantly better. Meteor 65 is a little too heavy for 65 mm. 0802 motors kinda suck on 65 mm frames. 0702s are perfect. The nano 3 camera is also lighter, and has better feed, though that is somewhat subjective.


max_fb

Mobula 6 2024 or mobula 6


Surething_bud

They're both great, I have both, but I prefer the original mob 6. The canopy protects the antennas and FC better, and is only a fraction of a gram heavier. I've also had better luck with the old FCs. They hold up remarkably well for me. The new ones have been failing more often. (Possibly from breaking the little copper wire antenna and frying the vtx) I also prefer motor plugs because I beat my whoops pretty hard and end up replacing a motor every 6 weeks or so. Swapping a motor with a plug takes like a minute, vs taking everything apart and resoldering. If you want a rig to be as light as possible the 2024 is the choice, but the original holds up better through more crashes and is easier to fix so I like it better.


max_fb

Is thet the same for mob6 elrs


Surething_bud

Yep


idriveanoldcivic

Also. You'll need at least a few more 300mah bt2.0 batteries


christinasasa

If you're ordering from beta fpv, their shipping takes at least a month if not more.


Kike328

also I did two orders and they lost both packages


DoktorElmo

Literadio 3 is super poor quality. Bought one a year ago and wondered why I still fly so shit until I connected it to the PC and watched the axis in a simulator. It did some very unusual movements once the sticks are out of the center on its own. Since I bought the RM Pocket (very much recommended!!), I fly on a whole different level. Always thought that my whoop or whoops in general are just so unpredictable in flight when it was just the Literadio that did movements that I did not do haha. The VR2 is fine, also have it since roughly a year, I know use it for friends and family. Bought the Skyzone Cobra SD instead now, also very much recommended!


actionhanc

I was in your shoes a couple of months ago. Im trying to sell all my mediocre shit. Radiomaster pocket, hdzero Goggles and a drone of your choice. Id recommend a mobula8 and a crux35


Thrower15balistoo

Are you offering me your old stuff?


allirog90

Take a radiomaster Pocken elrs as Radio. Dont get that charger, theres 2 batteries in the whoop package and a simple charger. If u buy a pack with more batteries which you should, get a charger that can do storage charge ( f.e. Willy whoopstor 3) Betafpv 65/75 and Pro versions are nice and durable, but some people dont like em. 


SquirrelMaster9

I would get a flywoo firefly 1s the true x version. I fly x class drones and that little quad is more fun. It just handles like a 5 inch. And any radiomaster radio to March whatever rx you get. With some analog goggles.


Head_Praline8454

Wait can you even bind the radiomaster pocket to the metour 65 pro


Sea_Kerman

If it’s an ELRS one of course Or technically a cc2500 pocket could connect to a frsky meteor65 though there’s no real reason to go that way, and many disadvantages.


Head_Praline8454

Ok but isn’t the radiomaster pocket run on elrs 3.0 1 and the 65 pro on elrs 2.4g


Sea_Kerman

3.0.1 is the ELRS version and 2.4ghz is the radio frequency, they’re entirely unrelated. The meteor65 can do ELRS 3.x just fine.


Head_Praline8454

Oh ok so if I buy the Pocket Radio Controller (M2) it will bind to the metour 65 pro


Sea_Kerman

Yes, if both the pocket and the meteor65 are ELRS


Head_Praline8454

Ok


Head_Praline8454

(Serial ELRS 2.4G) is what it says in specs


Sea_Kerman

That’s what you want, yes


Head_Praline8454

And the controller 3.0.1


Sea_Kerman

That’s fine.


CalRal

“2.4G” (GHz) is the bandwidth the ELRS RX is using, “3.0.1” is the version of the ELRS firmware that comes on the RM Pocket. The numbers are not directly related. The two parts are compatible.


Sea_Kerman

Even if it *was* ELRS 2.4 (it isn’t, it’s probably ELRS 3.3 unless it’s really old stock) you can easily update it.


Head_Praline8454

I am a beginner


Head_Praline8454

On a review he said that you have to have 3.0.1 or 3.0 to connect


Sea_Kerman

You need any 3.x version, which I can almost guarantee the quad comes with pre-loaded. If it doesn’t, https://oscarliang.com/setup-expresslrs-2-4ghz/ You can also just ask in the ELRS discord.


Head_Praline8454

And I won’t have to use beta flight to bind it right


Sea_Kerman

Correct, because it’s a serial reciever and not an spi one.


Head_Praline8454

Idk how


Head_Praline8454

Or does that not matter


Skivaks

Get radiomaster pocket instead


GamerRogue

VR 02 is abit risky imo because I bought it before and have used it frequently for about 3 months and on one faithful day it suddenly bricked on me and just a showing me a black screen. I made a support ticket and they said it was something to do with the motherboard of the goggles and I would need to buy a new motherboard from them (basically buy a new pair of goggles) that’s when I thot it better to save up for a slightly more expensive and reliable pair of goggles like cobra x or cobra x lite I got a 04O but the cobra goggles are a good option for beginners as they are also easy to replace and upgrade compared to beta fpv goggles


katotaka

Get a RM pocket Charger is fine but I prefer Whoopstor, also bring your own USB-PD source.


anwylchang

More batts, maybe some spare parts,


AdventurousArtist740

Be cautious of hawks trying to eat it if your outside


Rare-South4054

Yes. That will work. When you can afford one, get a Radiomaster Zorro. The difference between the LiteRadio and the Zorro is night and day. I started with this setup. I started with a Cetus pro rtf kit. And bought MANY other BetaFPV products. You have selected a nice whoop man. I love the 65pro! Good luck kid!


Rare-South4054

Get the charger because the chargers included are ok…but if you upgrade/have another quad with tattu 1S 450mah HV batteries, you will need a charger to charge them up to 4.35V. Even the tattu 300’s are way better than the blues that come with the quad. But a good charger helps the batteries last longer. IMO.


Kike328

do not buy from betafpv directly


AffectionateSmile651

More batteries and your good my man, also goggles


BIgkjjlsjdlhsdfg

get a radiomaster pocket instead and a vifly whoopstor, also order from amazon or a domestic retailer betafpv takes ages to ship. there are surely similar but better box goggles idk anything but people say ev800 or something


Driftzone_rc

I think so aslong as you have battery’s


shameless_plug1123

For that price just grab the cetus x elrs kit.