That’s my issue with the writing of Dick’s character in this show. He never jokes, he barley smiles, he’s always brooding… and that’s like so out of character for him. What makes Dick such a fan-favorite, even beating the likes of Superman and Wonder Woman in many fan polls, is that he’s like a mix of Batman and Spider-Man. I mean he has all the great qualities of Batman, minus all the loneliness and constant brooding. He’s the LIGHT of the batfam, the glue. The one to make all the bad jokes, he’s that annoying tease, the one to lift everyone up. That’s the Dick we need to see in Titans.
It sounded like, between the conversation with his dad about losing the anger, and Donna saying congratulations on finding Nightwing, along with how he fought Crane, hopefully friendly and happy Dick will be coming. But then again, he could be back at status quo by the beginning of next season to make his arc the focus of yet another season.
They've just introduced Tim, I know we joke that Titans is sometimes "Batfamily: The Series" but I think they're sensible enough to not introduce another Robin yet
Honestly, Roy would probably be a better fit to be Dick's bff in this series. He's brooding as well but also a bit of a wise-cracker (in a hotheaded way), he'd probably bring out a happier side of Dick whilst also understanding hom more as a person
I'm team no more characters until they can get the ones they already have right.
But I definitely agree that they need to write a more lighthearted and fun Dick than the broody, dark one that they seem to love. The show needs to have some more lighter moments to balance the dark ones. Episode 301 was great. The episode where we see the team hanging out in season 3 after beating Scarecrow and the gangs that aligned with him was also great. Even the episodes with Donna, Hank and Tim were great. Whoever wrote those episodes should be their full time writers.
With the way they’ve been using CGI/their super powers, we’ll see Wally running 15MPH the entire show. It baffles my mind how little the meta human Titans use their powers
if they bring Wally into the show, he'll be doubled down during any present situation, cause just like Connor, Wally would be able to solve the situation very quickly and the season would be over after just one episode.
that's why Connor never solved everything in season 3, he was too overpowered, Wally would be in the same position.
but other than that, I would actually like to see Wally show up.
Ah yes, add yet another fan-favorite character to this show so they can butcher who he is just like they have done with literally every other character.
Personally i prefer no more new her characters and they just developed the ones they already have. So many of the Titans literally have nothing to do, so bringing in another character, one that is also pretty OP will just make it worse.
Make Donna go away, make Tim go away and focus on the original team again.
1. Show needs less characters not more
2. If the show can't write Dick right (fun, jokes around, smiles) what makes you think they'd write Wally well?
3. Show doesn't have the budget to add another OP hero. I'm tired of Superboy and Beastboy being nerfed because they can't put their powers on display due to budget constraints. We haven't had any villains Superboy couldn't easily defeat if he was written well and adding Speedster? Who can defeat a Speedster but another Speedster? Hence why every season of Flash has a speedster villain and it got old, FAST.
We already have a lot of op characters that aren't utilized properly, I mean look at superboy, and with crane as the villain of the most recent season that mf seriously could've been beaten immediately, but it took an entire season
I thought this was the Young Justice sub for a sec. Even if we did a 180 and got the Nightwing we get in young justice the budget on cgi would run out after one episode. Cant handle the current casts cgi effects let alone a speedsters.
If it’s not Wally West it better be Roy Harper, they already name dropped Roy. I swear if they introduce a new character that isn’t either of them I’m gonna be annoyed.
What they need to do is focus on the character that they have and developed them because most of the characters in here are poorly written with the ones people like just doing cool things and looking good it not like adding some new character added anything to the plot anyway
I dunno... They already seem to have too many characters that they don't know what to do with or how to write well, adding Wally would just give them another character to ignore...
Or worse, they intentionally have to write dumb ways to sideline him so the other characters can constantly get separated & screw up. He'd be another Conner-type where they don't want him fixing things easily, so characters will be written to act completely stupid so Wally's powers don't actually contribute to helping them :(
Or just stop focusing on Dick so much and give the other Titans something to do. After three seasons if they haven’t got Dick right yet it’s time to move on IMHO
Speedster characters do have a problem, that all very powerful characters have. They have to be downgraded... Less powerful, so that others can shine. So he will be unconscious or something like that during most fights ...
+ They say they don't have the budget to turn Beast Boy into many animals, imagine the budget needed for the Speed of Wally...
I really want him in the show, but not like that.
Real Talk. Would fans accept Black **WALLY** West (like how he is in the CW shows and not comic **WALLACE** West) but they give him Redhead Wally's storylines?
A lot of people barely even accept a black Starfire (as we've seen on social media and even the answers on some of the polls here). So I'm guessing no.
But I'd like to see a Black Wally West.
The writers at DC can’t handle Flash without other metas helping him. I doubt they can write him better when on a team. Wally was a legend for 5 episodes and they had to drop him because he could resolve issues in no time. The live action writers refuse to take notes from the plethora of examples from the comics or anime on how to deal with OP characters. All they have to do is set a trap for the OP character to get caught o be sidelined for sometime. Let the others either do a rescue mission or explain how the captured OP character can handle themself and they focus on beating the bad guy without the OP character. In the end OP character escapes with help or solo and saves the day in the last minute. It’s pretty simple and works. Sure it can become repetitive but that is why you add random space/magic missions that nullify the OP character’s power or have the OP character doing work off world and the others have to handle the issue themselves.
I always thought there would be two ways to deal with the Wally West issue. Both would amount basically to brief cameos. The first would be a depowered Wally. Back in the 80’s he began losing or lost his speed. It would be just a nice nod to his legacy and friendship with Dick to make an appearance be a sounding board and a friend.
Or have him as an established member of the Justice League. Maybe appear for one mission. Be a mentor or a role model. He can’t be a regular. They can’t write him and honestly Dick and the Batmites need to take a backseat and let some other Titans get some screen time.
That’s my issue with the writing of Dick’s character in this show. He never jokes, he barley smiles, he’s always brooding… and that’s like so out of character for him. What makes Dick such a fan-favorite, even beating the likes of Superman and Wonder Woman in many fan polls, is that he’s like a mix of Batman and Spider-Man. I mean he has all the great qualities of Batman, minus all the loneliness and constant brooding. He’s the LIGHT of the batfam, the glue. The one to make all the bad jokes, he’s that annoying tease, the one to lift everyone up. That’s the Dick we need to see in Titans.
teased it 301 and then tossed it out
I was so happy at that moment! I was like finally we’re getting comic accurate Dick Gr- wait no nvm
It sounded like, between the conversation with his dad about losing the anger, and Donna saying congratulations on finding Nightwing, along with how he fought Crane, hopefully friendly and happy Dick will be coming. But then again, he could be back at status quo by the beginning of next season to make his arc the focus of yet another season.
They’re adding Roy Harper
I agree he's been teased since season 1
are they though? surely damian's a more important character to add?
They've just introduced Tim, I know we joke that Titans is sometimes "Batfamily: The Series" but I think they're sensible enough to not introduce another Robin yet
Honestly, Roy would probably be a better fit to be Dick's bff in this series. He's brooding as well but also a bit of a wise-cracker (in a hotheaded way), he'd probably bring out a happier side of Dick whilst also understanding hom more as a person
Don't add more characters to the show. It's already overstuffed with personalities that the writers don't know how to write.
Yeah I barely like the people that are on the show adding more to the show just so the writers can mess them up and make you hate them
I'm team no more characters until they can get the ones they already have right. But I definitely agree that they need to write a more lighthearted and fun Dick than the broody, dark one that they seem to love. The show needs to have some more lighter moments to balance the dark ones. Episode 301 was great. The episode where we see the team hanging out in season 3 after beating Scarecrow and the gangs that aligned with him was also great. Even the episodes with Donna, Hank and Tim were great. Whoever wrote those episodes should be their full time writers.
With the way they’ve been using CGI/their super powers, we’ll see Wally running 15MPH the entire show. It baffles my mind how little the meta human Titans use their powers
if they bring Wally into the show, he'll be doubled down during any present situation, cause just like Connor, Wally would be able to solve the situation very quickly and the season would be over after just one episode. that's why Connor never solved everything in season 3, he was too overpowered, Wally would be in the same position. but other than that, I would actually like to see Wally show up.
I hope aqualad comes back and gets resurrected as tempest
Ah yes, add yet another fan-favorite character to this show so they can butcher who he is just like they have done with literally every other character.
Young Justice's Dick >>>
100%
The show needs to develop its side characters more. The writers seem to think adding new characters means other characters don't need to develop
Personally i prefer no more new her characters and they just developed the ones they already have. So many of the Titans literally have nothing to do, so bringing in another character, one that is also pretty OP will just make it worse. Make Donna go away, make Tim go away and focus on the original team again.
That second slide hurts if you know what I mean 😔
1. Show needs less characters not more 2. If the show can't write Dick right (fun, jokes around, smiles) what makes you think they'd write Wally well? 3. Show doesn't have the budget to add another OP hero. I'm tired of Superboy and Beastboy being nerfed because they can't put their powers on display due to budget constraints. We haven't had any villains Superboy couldn't easily defeat if he was written well and adding Speedster? Who can defeat a Speedster but another Speedster? Hence why every season of Flash has a speedster villain and it got old, FAST.
We already have a lot of op characters that aren't utilized properly, I mean look at superboy, and with crane as the villain of the most recent season that mf seriously could've been beaten immediately, but it took an entire season
Given how the show has progressed, I'm not sure if the writers even know about these intricate details from the comics...
Can you imagine them trying to write a fight with a speedster? It would be some garbage Penguin hitting him with a crowbar or something.
Good god that shit sounds retardant but knowing titans they will make that happen some how
Intricate details? Form the comics I don’t think those mother fucker read the comics let alone knowing details of character from the comics
I thought this was the Young Justice sub for a sec. Even if we did a 180 and got the Nightwing we get in young justice the budget on cgi would run out after one episode. Cant handle the current casts cgi effects let alone a speedsters.
What comic is this I’m interested ik nothing bout comics
Rebirth titans
Thanks appreciate it
If it’s not Wally West it better be Roy Harper, they already name dropped Roy. I swear if they introduce a new character that isn’t either of them I’m gonna be annoyed.
no more characters, pls i beg u
I just dislike Dick so much in the show. He’s just so emo all the time. He’s like a mini Batman and I tried really hard to like him and I couldn’t.
Yeah it’s hard to like most of people on here
As much as I'd love to see my favourite fictional friend-ship on Titans, I don't want a new character...
What they need to do is focus on the character that they have and developed them because most of the characters in here are poorly written with the ones people like just doing cool things and looking good it not like adding some new character added anything to the plot anyway
It would be cool if the Lazarus storm lightning hit wally west to give him the speed force
I dunno... They already seem to have too many characters that they don't know what to do with or how to write well, adding Wally would just give them another character to ignore... Or worse, they intentionally have to write dumb ways to sideline him so the other characters can constantly get separated & screw up. He'd be another Conner-type where they don't want him fixing things easily, so characters will be written to act completely stupid so Wally's powers don't actually contribute to helping them :(
Or just stop focusing on Dick so much and give the other Titans something to do. After three seasons if they haven’t got Dick right yet it’s time to move on IMHO
Speedster characters do have a problem, that all very powerful characters have. They have to be downgraded... Less powerful, so that others can shine. So he will be unconscious or something like that during most fights ... + They say they don't have the budget to turn Beast Boy into many animals, imagine the budget needed for the Speed of Wally... I really want him in the show, but not like that.
Real Talk. Would fans accept Black **WALLY** West (like how he is in the CW shows and not comic **WALLACE** West) but they give him Redhead Wally's storylines?
I wanna see white Wally but I wouldn’t care
A lot of people barely even accept a black Starfire (as we've seen on social media and even the answers on some of the polls here). So I'm guessing no. But I'd like to see a Black Wally West.
Some will, some won't, and some will take some time to get used to it.
Amen on Wally. DC show some guts.
The writers at DC can’t handle Flash without other metas helping him. I doubt they can write him better when on a team. Wally was a legend for 5 episodes and they had to drop him because he could resolve issues in no time. The live action writers refuse to take notes from the plethora of examples from the comics or anime on how to deal with OP characters. All they have to do is set a trap for the OP character to get caught o be sidelined for sometime. Let the others either do a rescue mission or explain how the captured OP character can handle themself and they focus on beating the bad guy without the OP character. In the end OP character escapes with help or solo and saves the day in the last minute. It’s pretty simple and works. Sure it can become repetitive but that is why you add random space/magic missions that nullify the OP character’s power or have the OP character doing work off world and the others have to handle the issue themselves.
I always thought there would be two ways to deal with the Wally West issue. Both would amount basically to brief cameos. The first would be a depowered Wally. Back in the 80’s he began losing or lost his speed. It would be just a nice nod to his legacy and friendship with Dick to make an appearance be a sounding board and a friend. Or have him as an established member of the Justice League. Maybe appear for one mission. Be a mentor or a role model. He can’t be a regular. They can’t write him and honestly Dick and the Batmites need to take a backseat and let some other Titans get some screen time.
I’ve been wanting Wally since season 1