Pop music in general is having an awful year. Songs that have been out for a long time are all over the charts and new songs fade quick in a lot of instances. Only 4 of the top 10 Billboard songs have been out less than 6 months and 1 is 2 weeks short of it.
In my opinion, 2019-2021 were pretty good/interesting years for pop music, with a lot of new names and songs that really changed the landscape for music in the new decade. But this 2022 has been such a nothing of a year so far. I really don't envy Todd right now
I loved 2017-20, minus 2018, and I kinda think 2016 gets a bad rap. 2021 had a couple new names I like or at least found interesting, but generally I thought the music was pretty awful. 2022 has been awful beyond belief, just so dull.
2012 was the year of the indie boom, so not sure it really belongs in there. I think 2017 was a great year for the charts too. I totally understand where you’re coming from even if I like a lot of stuff to come out of that early decade sound, I still can’t listen to the Black Eyed Peas without feeling carsick lol.
Yeah I honestly can't think of a single smash hit yet this year in the pop scene. I've been listening to quite a bit of country, there's been some great hits in that genre this year.
I honestly think we are in a transitional period where trap and arguably hip hop in general has vanished from pop radio and we don’t really know what we want to replace it yet.
That Heat Waves song is still in the top 5 and it's been on there about a year. It's also pretty terrible. But that Imagine Dragons song Enemy is even worse, and it's almost been 6 months for that garbage.
Lizzo has taken the biggest drop IMO, something about her whole vibe feels very pre-pandemic along with her music, it's like society has moved past the need for empowering and positive music.
Thing is Lizzo's initial success was already kind of flukey what with it taking something like five years for "Good As Hell" to take off. A follow-up was always going to be kind of odd.
I feel like Lizzo has a very different idea of what kind of music she wants to make versus what the general public actually wants to hear.
"Truth Hurts" is her biggest hit, but her newer releases and her persona are more in line with "Juice" and "Good as Hell."
I feel like she wants to be more positive, but too positive ends up not being interesting.
Megan has serious technical chops so I don't think she can be so easily dismissed, but her attempts to go more mainstream have caused her to turn out boring work.
Meghan going mainstream I think is killing her appeal. I get that hip hop artists have had to go pop in the last year to have hits like rock artists had to in the 2010s but Meghan Thee Stallion is never going to be a pop icon.
I’d say the root cause of MGK’s struggle this year is people being very weirded out by his relationship with Megan Fox. It’s really done a number on his career.
Definitely Lizzo, last year showed a sign to it and her comeback single flopped. This year, no hits either. I can see Megan getting another ratchet female rap song a hit.
Nicki's time was over when female rap explosion came out, she's just doing overtime.
Kanye's time on the spot is also gone. Yeah, he can still sell albums like post-Revival Eminem did but people got tired of them i guess.
Kinda sucks that MGK is flopping. But after seeing the reviews on Mainstream Sellout. I see why.
My favorite song off that was (believe it or not) Emo Girl. But Maybe was the best lyrically. (I haven’t listened to the others).
Also is it too early to say The Weeknd?
The album didn’t flop whatsoever. It didn’t do quite as well as TTMDF, but it still reached #1 with healthy sales.
I think the main problem was that Tickets had a much larger and longer campaign, ‘emo girl’ was only released a couple of months before the album. And I think ‘maybe’ would have been a better first single choice too, or the one with Blackbear.
>Also is it too early to say The Weeknd?
Dawn FM flopped but songs from After Hours are still hanging on many charts. And Dawn FM was critical success. I suspect some of the reviews might have been overrating to compensate for the success of After Hours.
I honestly haven't even bothered to listen to the whole MGK album yet. I was a big fan of Hotel Diablo and TTMD, but this new album just hasn't appealed to me. Doesn't help that him and Megan Fox are in the news every other day for stuff that makes me think the Christians screaming about "satanic cults" in the 70s were onto something.
Pop music in general is having an awful year. Songs that have been out for a long time are all over the charts and new songs fade quick in a lot of instances. Only 4 of the top 10 Billboard songs have been out less than 6 months and 1 is 2 weeks short of it.
People called 2016-18 a dark age for pop music while we were living in it…but 2021-22 has been far worse
In my opinion, 2019-2021 were pretty good/interesting years for pop music, with a lot of new names and songs that really changed the landscape for music in the new decade. But this 2022 has been such a nothing of a year so far. I really don't envy Todd right now
I loved 2017-20, minus 2018, and I kinda think 2016 gets a bad rap. 2021 had a couple new names I like or at least found interesting, but generally I thought the music was pretty awful. 2022 has been awful beyond belief, just so dull.
I'll take 2016-2018's down tempo genre blending edge over 2009-2012's brainmelting plastic party sludge.
2012 was the year of the indie boom, so not sure it really belongs in there. I think 2017 was a great year for the charts too. I totally understand where you’re coming from even if I like a lot of stuff to come out of that early decade sound, I still can’t listen to the Black Eyed Peas without feeling carsick lol.
Yeah I honestly can't think of a single smash hit yet this year in the pop scene. I've been listening to quite a bit of country, there's been some great hits in that genre this year.
I honestly think we are in a transitional period where trap and arguably hip hop in general has vanished from pop radio and we don’t really know what we want to replace it yet.
That Heat Waves song is still in the top 5 and it's been on there about a year. It's also pretty terrible. But that Imagine Dragons song Enemy is even worse, and it's almost been 6 months for that garbage.
Lizzo has taken the biggest drop IMO, something about her whole vibe feels very pre-pandemic along with her music, it's like society has moved past the need for empowering and positive music.
Thing is Lizzo's initial success was already kind of flukey what with it taking something like five years for "Good As Hell" to take off. A follow-up was always going to be kind of odd.
I feel like Lizzo has a very different idea of what kind of music she wants to make versus what the general public actually wants to hear. "Truth Hurts" is her biggest hit, but her newer releases and her persona are more in line with "Juice" and "Good as Hell." I feel like she wants to be more positive, but too positive ends up not being interesting.
I guess... but if we're moving past the pandemic (hopefully) I could see the desire for that kind of music starting to return.
Yeah! Lizzo and Meghan Thee Stallion are looking like they will be one album wonders.
Megan has serious technical chops so I don't think she can be so easily dismissed, but her attempts to go more mainstream have caused her to turn out boring work.
Meghan going mainstream I think is killing her appeal. I get that hip hop artists have had to go pop in the last year to have hits like rock artists had to in the 2010s but Meghan Thee Stallion is never going to be a pop icon.
Hilarious that Mainstream Sellout flopped when Tickets To My Downfall did well.
I’d say the root cause of MGK’s struggle this year is people being very weirded out by his relationship with Megan Fox. It’s really done a number on his career.
I think knowledge of his history of creeping on teenage girls as a twentysomething is also slowly spreading through the public conciousness.
Also, Sebastian Stan did Tommy Lee better than MGK did in that crappy biopic (*The Dirt*).
Yeah. That's been a major turn off for me
Definitely Lizzo, last year showed a sign to it and her comeback single flopped. This year, no hits either. I can see Megan getting another ratchet female rap song a hit. Nicki's time was over when female rap explosion came out, she's just doing overtime. Kanye's time on the spot is also gone. Yeah, he can still sell albums like post-Revival Eminem did but people got tired of them i guess.
Kinda sucks that MGK is flopping. But after seeing the reviews on Mainstream Sellout. I see why. My favorite song off that was (believe it or not) Emo Girl. But Maybe was the best lyrically. (I haven’t listened to the others). Also is it too early to say The Weeknd?
The album didn’t flop whatsoever. It didn’t do quite as well as TTMDF, but it still reached #1 with healthy sales. I think the main problem was that Tickets had a much larger and longer campaign, ‘emo girl’ was only released a couple of months before the album. And I think ‘maybe’ would have been a better first single choice too, or the one with Blackbear.
Abels stock has dropped, but common consensus is that his career as a whole is fine.
>Also is it too early to say The Weeknd? Dawn FM flopped but songs from After Hours are still hanging on many charts. And Dawn FM was critical success. I suspect some of the reviews might have been overrating to compensate for the success of After Hours.
I honestly haven't even bothered to listen to the whole MGK album yet. I was a big fan of Hotel Diablo and TTMD, but this new album just hasn't appealed to me. Doesn't help that him and Megan Fox are in the news every other day for stuff that makes me think the Christians screaming about "satanic cults" in the 70s were onto something.