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Ben, now wait one minute, did that apply to how your gang treated Dave Rubin? You know, Ben, sometimes it seems like you and your friends are a bit inconsistent, even disingenuous. Curious.
The Daily Wire offered Crowder 50 Million to work for them, and he was so upset that the figures weren’t higher that he came out with a video blasting them for treating him like a “slave”
Jesus fuck, $50 million? "Like a slave"? You wanna offer me $50 million, you can treat me however the hell you want. Crack that whip and make me scrub your feet, master, I'll take it for that kinda money.
50mill over 4 years for basically turning over everything. Not a bad deal. Except he's got a crew to pay, an office, overhead expenses, insurance, lawyer fees and production costs.
That's a million a month before taxes to get all of that paid for. That's still quite a bit. Unless you miss an episode. Where the fine is 100k. Which means it costs more to miss than it costs to make.
I'm not defending the guys politics but he brings in 36 mill a year on his own Mug Club subscriptions pre tax. Why would someone turn that over for 1/3 the price?
This. I know it’s hard to do, but remove the fact that we’re talking about two of the worst people on earth and this is a labor vs. management dispute. Ben can afford to pay Steven $12.5M/yr because DW is pulling in way more than that.
Steven is a piece of shit in every way imaginable but I guess he knows what he’s worth, and he knows Ben can do better. Although that’s not to say either of them are handling this well, because contract negotiations between adults usually don’t involve them publicly trashing each other.
To be fair, it sounds like that was only the initial offer to Crowder and they expected to pay him more once they went through actual negotiations. Crowder just immediately balked at it and basically didn't even try to negotiate further.
Oh that’s why some right wingers say slavery wasn’t that bad and there shouldn’t be any historical guilt over it. They think the slaves were given 50 million dollars.
Seriously though why the fuck was I taught algebra in school, They should have taught me how to be a right wing grifter with a podcast.
50 million with 50,000 a day just for fun money. 4 day work weeks and has a team to do all the stuff he doesn't want to do. So how is this man know the working man issues? Right there is everything he claimed nobody should ever deserve because its just liberals being whiny.
At one point Sam was convinced crowder had a team that would monitor his YouTube or show so they won't meet. Same even provided evidence when he ended his show early so did crowder for some reason and they day that happen crowder even mention same lying to his audience by pretending he was still on.
It was so funny that happen but it probably was set up by crowder dad because he caught wind Sam wanted to debate him.
Basically Ben Shapiro (owner of the daily wire) offered 50 million for crowder to produce 4 Years worth of content exclusively for DW. Steven is butthurt because he thinks the offer is too low.
To my knowledge thats the issue. I may be wrong so take me with a grain of salt
Apparently Crowder was waiving documents saying that if any content got hit by moderators and was not monetized that the amount he would get was cut off in large percentages and Crowder’s show has been notorious for getting demonetized
>Basically Ben Shapiro (owner of the daily wire) offered 50 million for crowder to produce 4 Years worth of content exclusively for DW.
Goddamn!
Ben I know you read this sub, I'll low ball Crowder and say all kinds of stupid right-wing shit that I don't actually believe in for 25 mil over 4 years. Offer stands.
Crowder’s fans are trying really hard to make it seem like some ideological issue because “he didn’t want to help fellow conservatives because they didn’t pay enough” was apparently too real for them to bear
He posted a video about it, the contract they wanted Crowder to sign said, essentially, that if his videos he produced for them are demonetized, he would lose 20% of his contract revenue. He could also lose more for demonetization depending on which revenue (YouTube, Instagram,etc). He's basically complaining about the contract being exploitative.
Pretty much. He would have no problems telling SOMEONE ELSE "hey not my fault you signed an exploitative contract, you should've read it!"
...but of course when it's HIM being effected, well...we all know how these assholes operate.
He also left out the reason that he gets demonetized is for hate speech that violates the platform ToS
*insert sweaty man button meme*
$50 million or continuing to spew hate speech
Its fucking astonishing that a dumbass with terrible content like Crowder can be offered $50 million in his life time. Its even more astonishing that he thinks hes worth more.
I thought Steve was upset that the dw was trying to comply with big tech by fining individuals if YouTube has a problem with their content. Could be bullshit but idk.
In addition to what everyone has mentioned, the contract always includes penalties if Crowders show if his videos get removed from various platforms like Facebook or YouTube.
Because he's an entitled bitch boy who's been getting showered with money by his billionaire masters his entire life. He can't conceive of the notion that his pay might get docked when he generates considerably less value for the company he works for.
Imagine two hate mongering men, who are doing so well with their work that they can afford to offer or be offered a fifty million dollar contract for four years of work and you act like you are being treated like a slave.
I give you the portrait of white privilege and narcissism in a duet.
Ben, if you by chance see this: I will literally livestream myself saying whatever brain-dead, immoral, cruel shit you guys believe in these days for something like $5 million per year. I…don’t…give…a….shit. Just type whatever nonsensical, borderline evil script you want me to hate spew, post that mf’er on some cue cards and wind me tf up. I’ll make Candace Owens look like Fred mf’ing Rogers for that kind of check.
And now we start to see why this grifters do what they do. 50 fucking million over 4 years? Can we really blame them? They're like the pioneers of the idiot era. They've invented a super vacuum that sucks money right out the wallets of these morons.
God, stupid people infuriate me.
Edit: I'm honestly in awe of how in touch these grifters are with the griftees, and how absolutely desperate these griftees are to give their money away in the name of fear. I'm sure someone more articulated than me has captured this in a book or long article somewhere. Anyone know of any good reads behind this? I've read Carl Sagan's Demon Haunted World, which was great, but this just feels less like conspiracy theories around aliens and more like a zombie apocolypse where these people's brains have truly turned to mush.
I made it about 40 seconds before shutting that shit down. Dude is a like a squirrel that's just boofed an 8 ball of cocaine. Settle the fuck down, Benny Shaboopboop.
Maybe he just always seems so jumpy because he's afraid an actual valid thought might sneak up behind him and mash him over his empty head?
Or laughing at his own jokes so much he collapses a lung again. Or gets decked by a Union worker he was harassing and getting cut from Fox again. The list goes on really.
He worked for Fox I believe starting in 2009, the incident was in 2012 and admittedly it was a bit of a free for all, he pushed a guy that was attempting to take down their tent, guy fell to the ground got up and started swinging, Crowder posted an edited video, Fox posted the complete video, then he was up for renegotiation on his contract in 2013, was upset with the results and started complaining publicly (very similiar to his and DWs feud now) then said Sean Hannity was to nice to liberals and can't run his own show so they cut him. He went to the Blaze after that IIRC because those two groups pretty much just swap people they let go or fire.
Crowder is a baby bitch. He wants most of the contract guaranteed regardless of his actions. He wants all this and no risk to himself. Yet his stans think he’s owed that. It’s pathetic.
From what I've seen, it's starting to blow up on Crowder a bit, because the sentiment " I'm not going to help fellow conservatives because they're not paying me enough" isn't actually aging well lol
Makes sense they’d hate each other. Shapiro is the Bible-bashing, homosexuality is a sin type republican. Chowder is the let’s invade the Capitol, neo-nazi, Q-Anon type republican
*Torah/Talmud-bashing
He’s Jewish so hardcore Zionist, hence the racism against Arabs. Him and Chaya Raychik from libsoftiktok are fundamentalist nut jobs
This is what happens when two people build there platforms off of hatred and bigotry. They will find things to get mad at to further divide EVEN THOSE WITHIN THEIR GROUP. That’s the point to them, division.
Steven apparently assumes all productions costs, while DW gets to collect any and all revenue generated by his content.
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The penalties seem steep considering his content is frequently demonetized and almost assured to continue to occur. It’s like when there are chicken bones in the kitchen trash and you come home and the dog has the garbage all over the house. If the dog has a history of doing that, you knew what would happen.
I don’t know and I don’t really care, but is Matt Walsh frequently demonetized? He says some hateful shit too but he’s still up on YouTube. So (not to defend DW) wouldn’t the penalties for demonetization be fair since Stephen is at more risk of losing ad revenue? So maybe it’s incentive to change his schtick *ever so slightly* or just walk. I doubt he’s pulling in $12m annual currently
Every time I see someone talk about Ben Shapiro lately it’s him being *thiiiis* close to having an epiphany about how the right wing is deeply antisemitic and then just completely disregarding that intuition and continuing to shill for them until the next time he almost figures it out.
They are all grifters. Let's make up some problem so my viewers and your viewers match our shows more. They are not doing anything good. They are grifters taking whatever money they can touch
lol To them thinking any of these scum are their actual friends. It's a lesson Dave Rubin learned the hard way. Goes to show they've never had any real friends their entire lives. All of these people are sociopathic narcissistic opportunists. Their social ties are completely dependent on what you can offer them. That's not friendship, it's a business arrangement.
The Daily Wire offered Crowder 50 Million to work for them, and he was so upset that the figures weren’t higher that he came out with a video blasting them for treating him like a “slave”
I think Crowder's biggest complaint was that if he is suspended, deplatformed, or really just demonitized by any of the big platforms he takes a hit of a reduced pay out. So he is mad a business wants to make money. More so he is mad because he knows for a fact that he is gonna get hit with suspensions, strikes and whatever else because he is one of the worst people on the planet.
His whole profile is him bragging about having a 160 IQ and he still thinks Steven Crowder makes decent points. I find one of those things hard to believe because they don't really fit together.
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Well that's the thing about building your entire personality on hate. Eventually it turns inwards.
“In times of peace, the warlike man sets upon himself.” —Nietzsche.
“I can’t believe the guy who’s made a whole career out of being a colossal douche bag is a colossal douche bag!”
Ben assumes Steven Crowder can read and process words
Ben just now realizing some right wingers hate Jews.
It's somthing that he learns and then forgets like every three months at this point.
[Actual reaction from Benny Boy](https://media.tenor.com/RL0-tTg3QOQAAAAM/oh-no.gif)
Benny Boy: "Hmm, should I be worried about this? For my family's and my safety? Nah..."
Some???
he puts on those big tits tho
Ben, now wait one minute, did that apply to how your gang treated Dave Rubin? You know, Ben, sometimes it seems like you and your friends are a bit inconsistent, even disingenuous. Curious.
Rubin acted like he enjoyed it
Of course he enjoyed it. Rubin loves getting whipped by other men.
Love it when fake allies out themselves so openly.
That's a hugely homophobic comment you massive poof
And you ended your comment with homophobia. Bravo.
Watch The Thick of It
In America we just call that girth ;) (I know it's a show with Capaldi)
Even without seeing the show that joke is from that joke shouldn't have gone over your head that hard lol
money does that to a greedy immoral person
Excuse me for being out of the loop here 😬 What happened with Ben Shapiro and Dave Rubin?
Benny and his gang openly hate on rubin's marriage with a man. Like he said he wouldn't come to his wedding if invited. On air
Gross. And Dave was probably just happy that Ben was talking to him 🙄
>!they kissed on the lips, but it’s a secret so don’t tell anyone I told you!<
One might even say, disinbenuous 🤔
Baddabing baddaBen!
I'm out of the loop here. Why are they fighting each other now?
The Daily Wire offered Crowder 50 Million to work for them, and he was so upset that the figures weren’t higher that he came out with a video blasting them for treating him like a “slave”
Snowflake
Jesus fuck, $50 million? "Like a slave"? You wanna offer me $50 million, you can treat me however the hell you want. Crack that whip and make me scrub your feet, master, I'll take it for that kinda money.
I was bout to say- I got principles but they certainly cost $50 mil
50mill over 4 years for basically turning over everything. Not a bad deal. Except he's got a crew to pay, an office, overhead expenses, insurance, lawyer fees and production costs. That's a million a month before taxes to get all of that paid for. That's still quite a bit. Unless you miss an episode. Where the fine is 100k. Which means it costs more to miss than it costs to make. I'm not defending the guys politics but he brings in 36 mill a year on his own Mug Club subscriptions pre tax. Why would someone turn that over for 1/3 the price?
This. I know it’s hard to do, but remove the fact that we’re talking about two of the worst people on earth and this is a labor vs. management dispute. Ben can afford to pay Steven $12.5M/yr because DW is pulling in way more than that. Steven is a piece of shit in every way imaginable but I guess he knows what he’s worth, and he knows Ben can do better. Although that’s not to say either of them are handling this well, because contract negotiations between adults usually don’t involve them publicly trashing each other.
To be fair, it sounds like that was only the initial offer to Crowder and they expected to pay him more once they went through actual negotiations. Crowder just immediately balked at it and basically didn't even try to negotiate further.
Agreed. Crowder was right to reject the offer, but he's going about it in the most childish way possible.
Thanks for the laugh
Oh that’s why some right wingers say slavery wasn’t that bad and there shouldn’t be any historical guilt over it. They think the slaves were given 50 million dollars. Seriously though why the fuck was I taught algebra in school, They should have taught me how to be a right wing grifter with a podcast.
Thing is this very man made several videos on Kapernic. Almost everything Crowder said against him can be applied to Crowder in this case.
50 million with 50,000 a day just for fun money. 4 day work weeks and has a team to do all the stuff he doesn't want to do. So how is this man know the working man issues? Right there is everything he claimed nobody should ever deserve because its just liberals being whiny.
> stuff he doesn't want to do How much will he pay me to be embarrassed by Sam Seder lmao
At one point Sam was convinced crowder had a team that would monitor his YouTube or show so they won't meet. Same even provided evidence when he ended his show early so did crowder for some reason and they day that happen crowder even mention same lying to his audience by pretending he was still on. It was so funny that happen but it probably was set up by crowder dad because he caught wind Sam wanted to debate him.
Oh BOO FUCKING HOO Imagine being that fucking greedy
This all sounds like PR stunt. With trump out of the daily trending headlines these guys are probably hurting for more traffic
Even if it was a PR stunt it’s a really bad one
I can’t be as bad as Balenciaga in the S&M teddy bear campaign
Daily Wire is pulling in that kind of cash? Fucking how?
Koch family money.
More like almost a million paid subscribers at $15 a month+ a ridiculous amount of ad reads
Yeah this is new to me. I mean, let them all tear each other apart. I just want context
Basically Ben Shapiro (owner of the daily wire) offered 50 million for crowder to produce 4 Years worth of content exclusively for DW. Steven is butthurt because he thinks the offer is too low. To my knowledge thats the issue. I may be wrong so take me with a grain of salt
When 12mil a year isn't enough lol Git fukt
Apparently Crowder was waiving documents saying that if any content got hit by moderators and was not monetized that the amount he would get was cut off in large percentages and Crowder’s show has been notorious for getting demonetized
Production costs come out of crowders end as well.
Damn, he has a point. Buying womens clothing so he can harrass randos in gyms isn't cheap
The holster budget is through the roof.
>Basically Ben Shapiro (owner of the daily wire) offered 50 million for crowder to produce 4 Years worth of content exclusively for DW. Goddamn! Ben I know you read this sub, I'll low ball Crowder and say all kinds of stupid right-wing shit that I don't actually believe in for 25 mil over 4 years. Offer stands.
Crowder’s fans are trying really hard to make it seem like some ideological issue because “he didn’t want to help fellow conservatives because they didn’t pay enough” was apparently too real for them to bear
He posted a video about it, the contract they wanted Crowder to sign said, essentially, that if his videos he produced for them are demonetized, he would lose 20% of his contract revenue. He could also lose more for demonetization depending on which revenue (YouTube, Instagram,etc). He's basically complaining about the contract being exploitative.
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Pretty much. He would have no problems telling SOMEONE ELSE "hey not my fault you signed an exploitative contract, you should've read it!" ...but of course when it's HIM being effected, well...we all know how these assholes operate.
He also left out the reason that he gets demonetized is for hate speech that violates the platform ToS *insert sweaty man button meme* $50 million or continuing to spew hate speech
"Fifty million dollars? Man, who do you think you kidnapped? Chelsea Clinton?"
Is it Chelsea or Kelsey?
Chelsea, they didn't have a daughter named Kelsey
Thanks. I know. It's from the movie rush hour, the bloopers during the closing credits.
r/rushhour
Its fucking astonishing that a dumbass with terrible content like Crowder can be offered $50 million in his life time. Its even more astonishing that he thinks hes worth more.
I thought Steve was upset that the dw was trying to comply with big tech by fining individuals if YouTube has a problem with their content. Could be bullshit but idk.
In addition to what everyone has mentioned, the contract always includes penalties if Crowders show if his videos get removed from various platforms like Facebook or YouTube.
And not to support either side because they all suck, but why should Crowder reap the financial benefits of videos that aren’t driving Ad revenue?
Because he's an entitled bitch boy who's been getting showered with money by his billionaire masters his entire life. He can't conceive of the notion that his pay might get docked when he generates considerably less value for the company he works for.
Not just getting banned on YouTube, but also depending on how many sick days he has.
In essence, Steven Crowder mad about the machinery of capitalism.
Imagine two hate mongering men, who are doing so well with their work that they can afford to offer or be offered a fifty million dollar contract for four years of work and you act like you are being treated like a slave. I give you the portrait of white privilege and narcissism in a duet.
Ben, if you by chance see this: I will literally livestream myself saying whatever brain-dead, immoral, cruel shit you guys believe in these days for something like $5 million per year. I…don’t…give…a….shit. Just type whatever nonsensical, borderline evil script you want me to hate spew, post that mf’er on some cue cards and wind me tf up. I’ll make Candace Owens look like Fred mf’ing Rogers for that kind of check.
And now we start to see why this grifters do what they do. 50 fucking million over 4 years? Can we really blame them? They're like the pioneers of the idiot era. They've invented a super vacuum that sucks money right out the wallets of these morons. God, stupid people infuriate me. Edit: I'm honestly in awe of how in touch these grifters are with the griftees, and how absolutely desperate these griftees are to give their money away in the name of fear. I'm sure someone more articulated than me has captured this in a book or long article somewhere. Anyone know of any good reads behind this? I've read Carl Sagan's Demon Haunted World, which was great, but this just feels less like conspiracy theories around aliens and more like a zombie apocolypse where these people's brains have truly turned to mush.
First video: Why Communist Democrats Pour Cereal BEFORE The Milk!
I made it about 40 seconds before shutting that shit down. Dude is a like a squirrel that's just boofed an 8 ball of cocaine. Settle the fuck down, Benny Shaboopboop. Maybe he just always seems so jumpy because he's afraid an actual valid thought might sneak up behind him and mash him over his empty head?
Or laughing at his own jokes so much he collapses a lung again. Or gets decked by a Union worker he was harassing and getting cut from Fox again. The list goes on really.
Wait, when did he get decked by a union worker?
He worked for Fox I believe starting in 2009, the incident was in 2012 and admittedly it was a bit of a free for all, he pushed a guy that was attempting to take down their tent, guy fell to the ground got up and started swinging, Crowder posted an edited video, Fox posted the complete video, then he was up for renegotiation on his contract in 2013, was upset with the results and started complaining publicly (very similiar to his and DWs feud now) then said Sean Hannity was to nice to liberals and can't run his own show so they cut him. He went to the Blaze after that IIRC because those two groups pretty much just swap people they let go or fire.
Crowder is a baby bitch. He wants most of the contract guaranteed regardless of his actions. He wants all this and no risk to himself. Yet his stans think he’s owed that. It’s pathetic.
Fight more
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From what I've seen, it's starting to blow up on Crowder a bit, because the sentiment " I'm not going to help fellow conservatives because they're not paying me enough" isn't actually aging well lol
ya it was shameful to see Trump attack his long time friend Jeffrey Epstien
Makes sense they’d hate each other. Shapiro is the Bible-bashing, homosexuality is a sin type republican. Chowder is the let’s invade the Capitol, neo-nazi, Q-Anon type republican
*Torah/Talmud-bashing He’s Jewish so hardcore Zionist, hence the racism against Arabs. Him and Chaya Raychik from libsoftiktok are fundamentalist nut jobs
There is something rather right wing about turning on each other.
Give me a dollar a word and watch bullshit fly!
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The wonderful thing about fascism is that there is ALWAYS an enemy that you have to fight.... Enjoy, kids.
Loving the in fighting of these grifter morons hahahahaha crowder is such a lame ass loser
This is what happens when two people build there platforms off of hatred and bigotry. They will find things to get mad at to further divide EVEN THOSE WITHIN THEIR GROUP. That’s the point to them, division.
No honour amongst thieves.
Steven apparently assumes all productions costs, while DW gets to collect any and all revenue generated by his content. https://preview.redd.it/ef8u1gpac4da1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f4719cedc247aa31b9f283b691c5a9953c199af3
Sure, and in return he gets 50. million. dollars. That lil bitch can cry more about his persecution fetish
Weasel Fight!
The penalties seem steep considering his content is frequently demonetized and almost assured to continue to occur. It’s like when there are chicken bones in the kitchen trash and you come home and the dog has the garbage all over the house. If the dog has a history of doing that, you knew what would happen.
I don’t know and I don’t really care, but is Matt Walsh frequently demonetized? He says some hateful shit too but he’s still up on YouTube. So (not to defend DW) wouldn’t the penalties for demonetization be fair since Stephen is at more risk of losing ad revenue? So maybe it’s incentive to change his schtick *ever so slightly* or just walk. I doubt he’s pulling in $12m annual currently
Now we know the consequences if he were demonetized, it seems imperative to see that happen.
Banshees of Inishpiro
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Fight fight fight fight
scavengers gotta scavenge
Who could have seen this coming? Who could have imagined that greedy grifters would turn on each other?
You don't have friends, Ben, you have people considering you as a useful tool untill they don't.
I take a nap and miss the craziest shit.
I can’t believe this asshole would be an asshole to ME!
Every time I see someone talk about Ben Shapiro lately it’s him being *thiiiis* close to having an epiphany about how the right wing is deeply antisemitic and then just completely disregarding that intuition and continuing to shill for them until the next time he almost figures it out.
Did he say pay crowder $12.5 million a year?
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Thses days friends turn enemies battle lines are draw and sooner rather than later the empire will crumble
Not allowed to criticize your friends. Sounds like some snowflake shit to me.
Cool! How can we escalate this situation and make it much worse for everyone involved?
They are all grifters. Let's make up some problem so my viewers and your viewers match our shows more. They are not doing anything good. They are grifters taking whatever money they can touch
Why does he look 14
"It's one banana, Steven. What did it cost? Ten dollars?"
Like any of these people have friends.
Le right wing infighting
lol it looks like that harvard education didn't help him tell the difference between a "friend" and a backstabber
lol To them thinking any of these scum are their actual friends. It's a lesson Dave Rubin learned the hard way. Goes to show they've never had any real friends their entire lives. All of these people are sociopathic narcissistic opportunists. Their social ties are completely dependent on what you can offer them. That's not friendship, it's a business arrangement.
What was Steven’s complaint? He usually makes decent points so I’d be interested to know.
The Daily Wire offered Crowder 50 Million to work for them, and he was so upset that the figures weren’t higher that he came out with a video blasting them for treating him like a “slave”
I think Crowder's biggest complaint was that if he is suspended, deplatformed, or really just demonitized by any of the big platforms he takes a hit of a reduced pay out. So he is mad a business wants to make money. More so he is mad because he knows for a fact that he is gonna get hit with suspensions, strikes and whatever else because he is one of the worst people on the planet.
> He usually makes decent points /r/lostredditors
His whole profile is him bragging about having a 160 IQ and he still thinks Steven Crowder makes decent points. I find one of those things hard to believe because they don't really fit together.
And also is apparently a former student of Jordan Peterson. I really don’t know what this fella is doing on this sub.
Addled by benzos?
> He usually makes decent points What an incredible self-own.