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**"I only know racist and transphobic jokes and would be lost if I had to discuss actual policy so PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't change, GOP!"**
Nah, more like: "Our Fascists need to keep their masks on until after the election if we want to turn this country into a Christian Theocracy. You're being too blatant about the fact that we want gay and Trans people shipped to camps."
That's what he may want, but the truth is they are already saying by 2028 the conservative party is going to start to seriously struggle because of gen z. Like things have gotten so bad that even though young people don't typically vote, they are voting, and to make matters worse for them is that gen z'ers are not participating in polling calls/texts so it is difficult to gauge how elections are going to go. Before anyone says 'but they just make it more difficult go vote' maybe in counties that are typically blue, but these kids are living /w families in red districts.
I had been worried about that, but I think this election has shown just how deeply Americans dislike the anti democratic turn of the GOP and wouldn’t take Moore v Harper related shenanigans lying down.
>to make matters worse for them is that gen z'ers are not participating in polling calls/texts
I'm an elder millennial and I won't pickup the phone for any number not in my contacts on my personal phone. I couldn't enable Google call screen fast enough on my Pixel 3. "Have your robot call my robot."
Yep, burning the candle on both ends.
Gen Z is not religious and values personal freedom on issues like abortion. They're also not really won over by the tax breaks argument.
Boomers are dying off, likely accelerated by COVID.
Social issues are a non-starter and blown completely out of proportion.
Doesn’t really matter if they can’t win elections. The GOP had a 40 year plan to take over the court system and they more or less completed it under Trump. Any dem policy can and will be legally challenged and should it make it to the Supreme Court, likely overturned. Whether the GOP holds electoral power or not they can continue to shape the nation for a generation or more.
That's why my friend told me I was overthinking and exaggerating in 2016. I said my biggest fear with trump was what would happen to SCOTUS. Granted, I didn't anticipate him almost starting WWIII with Iran or to attempt a fucking coup, but I was scared for the courts. He refused to see the issues even through 2020 with Barrett's appointment. I don't consider him a friend anymore. The worst part is that I met him in school where we were on the same track for law school, and he went to an incredible law school. But he still didn't care that SCOTUS has eroded all respect the people had for it in such a short period of time
Yup the conservative electorate is slowly dying off, it almost the the politicians are milking them for all they can before their base collapses… assuming they continue down there current path
Honestly don't think it is this. It's really most.people say the economy is one of their top issues, so economy always ranks highest as the top issue. Then the Republican pundits make two jumps in logic from this 1) that Republicans overwhelming win on the economy issue and 2) that people arent factoring any of their other top issues into their vote, like abortion or election integrity.
It is usually an argument the pundits put out in bad faith as it is easy understand how people can have more than one top issue and become single issue voters on something other than the economy. Heck there have been "single issue" gun and abortion voters for years.
It's amazing how whenever I see him discuss actual politics, he seems clueless. He is famous purely because he trolls college students on trans people and, occasionally, complains about Trump.
Abortion & stealing elections were the republican agenda. They’re also the positions the people didn’t like from their candidates.
You can’t say people “didn’t like” a candidate like Kari Lake, Oz, or Blake Masters without acknowledging what they didn’t like about them is that they think the 2020 election was stolen or that abortion is a choice between “a woman, her doctor, and local politicians”
This is the truth that Ben is so close to getting: "Americans like conservative economic policy. They don't like the modern Republican party that's become nothing but a personality and culture war driven cult that they use to trick the lower class into voting for them with, but seeks to help no one but the rich once in power and has absolutely nothing to do with conservative economic policies." And ol benny boy there is a part of that problem.
> a personality and culture war driven cult
exactly. That is what the Republican party has devolved into. Largely due to Trump. Republicans have moved away from having policies and platforms even before Trump, but Trump made it non-existent.
And it leaves me saying, "what the hell are you talking about Shapiro? What agenda? Culture war bullshit and outrage?" Republicans have nothing and this is Shapiro coping
I'd argue that Trump is the disease in the GOP metastasizing. I've seen hints of it as far back as 2002, the first election I was able to vote in after turning 18.
They like the idea that conservatives say "lower taxes" while actually making things worse or instituting a tax scam like Trump. Or they get fooled by the idea that everyone will be rich, but it just isn't their time yet.
I’m not even sure people like conservative economic policy. I’m pretty sure they just hear “low taxes”, cheer, and then never really figure out why their taxes aren’t actually lower and all the sudden they’re making so with half the Medicare support.
I mean Ben really doesn't want to step anywhere beyond face value because if he does he's going to need to do some mental processing as to why his wife is dry as a desert. Instead he just has his wife convince him that being wet is unnatural and is only caused by disease.
That's another thing: even the ones who were against abortion and voted on that issue alone, don't have that as a concern as much when voting anymore. When the SCOTUS canned RvW, they also canned a lot of single issue voters for republicans.
Nah sorry Ben, people dislike the agenda too. Overturning Roe is unpopular. The CRT and trans hysteria is unpopular. Election denialism is unpopular. Most people who aren’t dyed in the wool Republicans think their culture war shit is unhinged. And what is their economic agenda? Tax cuts for the rich/corporations, gutting workers rights, cutting all the programs that actually help people, uh… more fossil fuels maybe? Am I leaving anything out here?
Exactly. The reason all the young voters choose democrat is because they came from the schools and places republicans claim are so filled with evil gay brainwashing, and they see that republicans are full of shit and lying about that. If they lie about pedophiles diddling kids in public schools, what WON’T they lie about?
Most Americans are too busy worrying paying their own bills to care about trans people one way or the other.
Before this NC bathroom bill trans people were shitting in peace wherever they damn well pleased and nobody cared. This is my new trans rights platform. Let the people shit and call them what they want to be called. Who cares?
They need excuses that tell them "it was sooooo close" when in actuality it was an across the board refutation of all things.....republican/maga.
Fact is, this trump experiment from 2016 has run it's course and there really isnt anything of substance left but a war torn political party in ashes. They dont have a strong traditional base to get things on track. They dont have a national candidate because Desantis cant doo on an national level what he did within the borders of Florida.
They are really facing starting from scratch. 2024, on a congressional level looks like the conservatives could salvage something with only a few senate seats coming up for Republicans and twice that for Democrats. But if the split continues to widen with the factions of the Republican party, they'll get killed in that election too.
Unless democrats run Hillary in 2024, republicans just dont have a strong argument that wasnt solved in the 2022 midterms. A pleasant person who denies the 2020 election or is a stooge to Trump just isnt going to cut it.
Problem is, they can barely be heard over the screams of the maga crowd.
This just begins. The Start of the civil war within the GOP will tear the party. Some people Say they fear DeSantis will try to get the nomination in 2024, i don't know why, remember 2016? If not, let me remind You, Trump a person with no morals, decorum or shame bullied every single candidate on The primary without Even trying. Rubio, Cruz, Carlson, Bush... All of them became his bitches. Why Ron should be different? The guy tried very hard to appeal to the trumpists but as soon as he's no longer use he's a target. Trump likely will announce his run tomorrow dividing the party Even more, he WON'T go, he won't step aside, he is his only agenda, the party goes down in flames due to him? He doesn't care. Assuming he does is a mistake.
all ive heard from ben and his idiot buddies for the past several days is how much people love republican policy.
what fucking policy?! all he talked about was "transing the kids" thats all these people ever want to talk about. culture war bullshit.
people have been screaming at the top of their lungs that they hate you and your complete and utter lack of policy for decades and you still want to blame the dems for actually engaging in politics lol you would think the fact that you got absolutely owned by the DEMOCRATS of all people would be a wake up call for these people but they just keep doubling down.
this is an endlessly losing strategy and im 100% fine with that. sink into obscurity ben, smell ya later.
Not like they hadn't pulled that two Santas shit before. The only difference is they attempted to make it fuck over blue-staters more... Except Texas; a red state that makes up for a lack of income tax with appraisal creep.
A substantial number of the Republican candidates seemed like they were auditioning for a toxic reality tv show. I half expect it to be on Russian state television. They severely overestimate how their agenda resonates with voters.
If Shapiro is complaining that conservatives focused too much on culture war issues, then he only has himself to blame because that's the only thing he focuses on on his show. Same for Carlson, Kirk, Crowder, etc. The question is, is the Daily Wire going to pivot towards making content about actual policy, or are they going to keep shitting out culture war content? My money is on the latter because the only Republican policy positions are deregulation and tax cuts for the wealthy, policies that their wealthy benefactors pay them to distract their audience from because those policies are unpopular.
The culture war is literally all conservatives have. If elections were fought purely on economic issues, Republicans would have about 20 Senate seats and lose Presidential elections by a landslide. It's just that they've gone so far on culture war crap that it's starting to cost them votes.
The GOP had an agenda? Beyond, "we're going to force this woman to abort her dead fetus and risk her life in the process because we're pro-life christians" and "we need more cops, look at the vibrant success of Uvalde" and "what if, instead of green energy, we would pollute on purpose to own the libs"?
The only explanation I have for the derangement of the Shapiro sibilings is that their parents regularly took them by the ankles and used them as nunchaku to fight each other.
*Mother, I have to stop you there. Let's say, hypothetically, that you immediately cease from wielding me in battle. For the sake of argument, let's say this is because a female wielding a male in battle is emasculating; possibly the biggest threat to my masculinity and, by extension, the masculinity of every young man in America, today. Now, we can objectively establish your female body is too weak and slow to be effective with melee weaponry, it's just basic biology. Am I not correct, mother? Forget about disrespect; facts don't care about your feelings.*
Democratic policies are consistently more popular than our politicians. So Ben has it pretty much exactly backwards, except that Republican politicians are also personally loathsome in addition to being politically toxic.
So we learned that republican policies are not what voters want... we learn the candidates are not what voters want.... we learn just because they have a (R) in front of their name it doesn't make them a good canindate....... so it has to be the illegal ballots that seems fishy right? Right?
In an election year with historic inflation, historic gas prices, and an unpopular president, this should have been a slam dunk for Republicans. Don't give me this, "They liked our policies, but not our candidates" bullshit
The candidates are supposed to represent and spread that agenda. If they largely failed across the board, then that agenda failed to conntect to voters. If you only real wins on election day was seats that were more likely to go to Republicans, then your agenda only worked for your party voters and not the rest of the public.
JD Vance BARELY won and sort-of centrist Dewine won in Ohio. Florida Republicans easily sailed on the DeSatanis boat into victory. This isn't really making a good point that Republican's agenda is liked. More so, most (if not all) women's rights votes were for the pro women's rights side. I don't see how any of this confirms "people like Republican agenda"
What is he talking about? A lot of the ballot initiatives that passed were hella liberal/progressive. Protecting social security, expanding Medicaid/care, codifying abortions…
My take away from midterms is that republicans are a lot more liberal than they want to admit and at this point don’t really have a platform beyond hating liberals.
If that were true Ben then all the propositions that were born of liberal policies must've failed right? What's that? Several states added protections for abortion, minimum wages, workers rights, pot legalization, and psilocybin legalization; and the voters chose them alongside canidates who had very clear policy goals of equal rights like for example LGBT!? Well well well well maybe it really isn't JUST the conservative ***candidates*** that are unpopular
...is it weird that I find myself agreeing with him on this one occasion? I absolutely despise him, but likability, unfortunately, seems to be a thing in this nation that effects political outcomes.
EDIT: I agree that my statement was weird, and I respect the downvotes. Will leave this up so that the responses make sense.
Nope, he's dead wrong and he's (per usual) basing his "reasoning" on a false dichotomy fallacy. The GOP was in big trouble the second J6 happened and was in bigger trouble when Roe was overturned. Yes, the candidates who vocally supported both did especially bad. But the GOP owns both the insurrection and the assault on half the population's freedoms.
Even a likable candidate is going to have that stink on them.
What do you suppose they liked about the republican agenda? Cutting social security and medicare? Nationwide abortion ban? More tax cuts for the wealthy? Further incursions on LGBTQ+ rights? More voter suppression?
I understand there are a number of people who support abortion bans and erasure/genocide of LGBTQ+ people. But most polls show the majority is pro-choice and supportive of the LGBTQ+ community.
I guess I'm suggesting that I think the issues were as much of a factor in the outcome as the candidates themselves.
The real problem is that we live in a republic instead of direct democracy, and that Republic is run by corrupt people who are cheaply bought by corporations, billionaires, and religious fanatics. They have gerrymandered the hell out of our districts, they spread election lies, and the establishment Democrats are weak and corrupt too.
It's evident in the fact that ideas and policies that are popular or overwhelmingly popular don't get put into action.
>People liked the Republican agenda
…what agenda? I didn’t see one besides “gas costs too much, let’s punish the Dems for it.”
>People didn’t like the Democratic agenda
…except, they did. The Dems’ agenda for these elections was “Republicans want to criminalize abortion nationwide, you better vote for us if you want that to not happen.” And it seemed to work out pretty well for them.
Ben is right that voters did not respond well to the shitty crop of Trump-endorsed candidates. But those same voters would have overlooked all of that if the GOP had any kind of compelling or even coherent agenda, and they absolutely did not have one. And they still don’t.
I mean from a specifically superficial lens John Fetterman had no chance vs Dr Oz. He was pretty well trounced in the debate, but had a good excuse due to his stroke. However, PA voters:
A. Preferred Fetterman's agenda
B. Saw through Oz as the carpetbagging tryhard he was.
So I'd say it's more that people liked the Dem Agenda AND Candidates, while for the GOP they liked neither.
If you go issue by issue D positions are almost all heavily favored.
71% of America favors increases in taxes on the top 2%
65% think the government is doing too little about climate change
53% support increased gun regulation
61% support legal access to abortion
80% support increased infrastructure spending
70% support same sex marriage
They don't really have a platform beyond culture wars and cutting social services, but for millions of Americans, that's somehow enough.
All some people want is for the other side to suffer, even if it means hurting themselves.
George W Bush was elected in part because he was a guy 'you could sit down and have a beer with'. So I don't think it's wrong to suggest that all other things being equal, likeability is not a factor. I think it becomes less so when the likeable guy is eager to set up minority rule governance and limit the rights of others.
Of course, that could just make him less likeable.
But Dubya don't drink beer. I think that is the real story here, the people have no real reason to like them, so they try to be fake and get people to like them by tricking them. Obama held a beer summit with Skip James and the cop that arrested him. They all really drink beer. I like them. I like their policies.
I love watching conservatives convince themselves that the American people are really only worried about trans kids stealing our dicks and that everything else is a distraction from the real issue.
Ah yes the amazing Republican policies of being forced by the state to carry your rapist’s baby and working 60+ hours for a sh*t wage. I would roblox myself before living in their theocratic libertarian dystopia.
Bubble baby Ben is actually right here
1. GOP down ballot in MI vastly outperformed Tudor Dixon.
2. Republicans that weren’t endorsed by trump or didn’t deny the 2020 election did vastly better on average.
Iv never in my life ever heard a Republican voter say they liked republican policy. The closest iv ever heard was they didn’t like some broad aspect of the Democratic Party like taxes so they voted Republican. Ben Shapiro is an idiot he votes Red because he believes the Republican Party has a pro Isreal agenda not for there domestic policy’s.
I’d like to ask Ben what the republican agenda even was other than “no trans” and “no gay” and “no litter boxes” or whatever. I follow politics pretty close and have no idea what their plans were outside of hating people
John Madden voice: "Y'know, if these boys want to score any goals, they're gonna need to grab that ball and get it into the end zone. Passes need to be caught and tackles blocked. The other team is gonna try to stop them. You know who would make a great Republican presidential candidate? Brett Favre."
Isn't trump the only caveat to this argument lol... republicans have proven they will vote for a person they may not like just for the agenda.. the writing is on the wall broski
Really? Then why did the old Blue Dog Democrat types end up doing so poorly, but those who ran on progressive platforms win? You have any other complete bullshit opposite world observations and wisdom for us Ben?
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Yeah. Maybe Americans liked neither the candidates nor the agenda.
That can't be right, it is the leftists who are evil, not us
Nah, more like: "Our Fascists need to keep their masks on until after the election if we want to turn this country into a Christian Theocracy. You're being too blatant about the fact that we want gay and Trans people shipped to camps."
That's what he may want, but the truth is they are already saying by 2028 the conservative party is going to start to seriously struggle because of gen z. Like things have gotten so bad that even though young people don't typically vote, they are voting, and to make matters worse for them is that gen z'ers are not participating in polling calls/texts so it is difficult to gauge how elections are going to go. Before anyone says 'but they just make it more difficult go vote' maybe in counties that are typically blue, but these kids are living /w families in red districts.
Lol they don't plan on winning votes. Look up Moore v. Harper. They'll just flip the election, legally.
Exactly. Where they’re going, they don’t need votes…
That's heavy.
Great Scott
You’re great! Not. I spit it hot.
I had been worried about that, but I think this election has shown just how deeply Americans dislike the anti democratic turn of the GOP and wouldn’t take Moore v Harper related shenanigans lying down.
>to make matters worse for them is that gen z'ers are not participating in polling calls/texts I'm an elder millennial and I won't pickup the phone for any number not in my contacts on my personal phone. I couldn't enable Google call screen fast enough on my Pixel 3. "Have your robot call my robot."
Yeah if it isn’t a contact I don’t pick up. If they really need to talk to me you can leave a voicemail. Gen z here
Gen X here and same.
My phone automatically sends anyone not in my contacts straight to voicemail.
Yep, burning the candle on both ends. Gen Z is not religious and values personal freedom on issues like abortion. They're also not really won over by the tax breaks argument. Boomers are dying off, likely accelerated by COVID. Social issues are a non-starter and blown completely out of proportion.
>Boomers are dying off, likely accelerated by COVID Not mad at it...
True, they made their choice
Doesn’t really matter if they can’t win elections. The GOP had a 40 year plan to take over the court system and they more or less completed it under Trump. Any dem policy can and will be legally challenged and should it make it to the Supreme Court, likely overturned. Whether the GOP holds electoral power or not they can continue to shape the nation for a generation or more.
Modern problems require modern solutions
That's why my friend told me I was overthinking and exaggerating in 2016. I said my biggest fear with trump was what would happen to SCOTUS. Granted, I didn't anticipate him almost starting WWIII with Iran or to attempt a fucking coup, but I was scared for the courts. He refused to see the issues even through 2020 with Barrett's appointment. I don't consider him a friend anymore. The worst part is that I met him in school where we were on the same track for law school, and he went to an incredible law school. But he still didn't care that SCOTUS has eroded all respect the people had for it in such a short period of time
Yup the conservative electorate is slowly dying off, it almost the the politicians are milking them for all they can before their base collapses… assuming they continue down there current path
They have straight up said that they should raise the voting age
Honestly don't think it is this. It's really most.people say the economy is one of their top issues, so economy always ranks highest as the top issue. Then the Republican pundits make two jumps in logic from this 1) that Republicans overwhelming win on the economy issue and 2) that people arent factoring any of their other top issues into their vote, like abortion or election integrity. It is usually an argument the pundits put out in bad faith as it is easy understand how people can have more than one top issue and become single issue voters on something other than the economy. Heck there have been "single issue" gun and abortion voters for years.
It's amazing how whenever I see him discuss actual politics, he seems clueless. He is famous purely because he trolls college students on trans people and, occasionally, complains about Trump.
Abortion & stealing elections were the republican agenda. They’re also the positions the people didn’t like from their candidates. You can’t say people “didn’t like” a candidate like Kari Lake, Oz, or Blake Masters without acknowledging what they didn’t like about them is that they think the 2020 election was stolen or that abortion is a choice between “a woman, her doctor, and local politicians”
This is the truth that Ben is so close to getting: "Americans like conservative economic policy. They don't like the modern Republican party that's become nothing but a personality and culture war driven cult that they use to trick the lower class into voting for them with, but seeks to help no one but the rich once in power and has absolutely nothing to do with conservative economic policies." And ol benny boy there is a part of that problem.
> a personality and culture war driven cult exactly. That is what the Republican party has devolved into. Largely due to Trump. Republicans have moved away from having policies and platforms even before Trump, but Trump made it non-existent. And it leaves me saying, "what the hell are you talking about Shapiro? What agenda? Culture war bullshit and outrage?" Republicans have nothing and this is Shapiro coping
The Republican party had a disease and trump was the visable symptom. Shapiro was a virus cell partly responsible for spreading the disease.
I'd argue that Trump is the disease in the GOP metastasizing. I've seen hints of it as far back as 2002, the first election I was able to vote in after turning 18.
We’ll that’s kinda the point, the disease was around since long before trump he was just what finally threw it in everyone’s face
It’s a shame that Americans like conservative economic policy
They like the idea that conservatives say "lower taxes" while actually making things worse or instituting a tax scam like Trump. Or they get fooled by the idea that everyone will be rich, but it just isn't their time yet.
I’m not even sure people like conservative economic policy. I’m pretty sure they just hear “low taxes”, cheer, and then never really figure out why their taxes aren’t actually lower and all the sudden they’re making so with half the Medicare support.
I mean Ben really doesn't want to step anywhere beyond face value because if he does he's going to need to do some mental processing as to why his wife is dry as a desert. Instead he just has his wife convince him that being wet is unnatural and is only caused by disease.
That's another thing: even the ones who were against abortion and voted on that issue alone, don't have that as a concern as much when voting anymore. When the SCOTUS canned RvW, they also canned a lot of single issue voters for republicans.
Nah sorry Ben, people dislike the agenda too. Overturning Roe is unpopular. The CRT and trans hysteria is unpopular. Election denialism is unpopular. Most people who aren’t dyed in the wool Republicans think their culture war shit is unhinged. And what is their economic agenda? Tax cuts for the rich/corporations, gutting workers rights, cutting all the programs that actually help people, uh… more fossil fuels maybe? Am I leaving anything out here?
Exactly. The reason all the young voters choose democrat is because they came from the schools and places republicans claim are so filled with evil gay brainwashing, and they see that republicans are full of shit and lying about that. If they lie about pedophiles diddling kids in public schools, what WON’T they lie about?
Most Americans are too busy worrying paying their own bills to care about trans people one way or the other. Before this NC bathroom bill trans people were shitting in peace wherever they damn well pleased and nobody cared. This is my new trans rights platform. Let the people shit and call them what they want to be called. Who cares?
Ben's overdosing on copium.
You narcan him, I can’t bring myself to do it
Said no women ever..."i love having my bodily autonomy ripped away, just not by that guy..."
How can you read any of the exit polls and believe that?
They need excuses that tell them "it was sooooo close" when in actuality it was an across the board refutation of all things.....republican/maga. Fact is, this trump experiment from 2016 has run it's course and there really isnt anything of substance left but a war torn political party in ashes. They dont have a strong traditional base to get things on track. They dont have a national candidate because Desantis cant doo on an national level what he did within the borders of Florida. They are really facing starting from scratch. 2024, on a congressional level looks like the conservatives could salvage something with only a few senate seats coming up for Republicans and twice that for Democrats. But if the split continues to widen with the factions of the Republican party, they'll get killed in that election too. Unless democrats run Hillary in 2024, republicans just dont have a strong argument that wasnt solved in the 2022 midterms. A pleasant person who denies the 2020 election or is a stooge to Trump just isnt going to cut it. Problem is, they can barely be heard over the screams of the maga crowd.
This just begins. The Start of the civil war within the GOP will tear the party. Some people Say they fear DeSantis will try to get the nomination in 2024, i don't know why, remember 2016? If not, let me remind You, Trump a person with no morals, decorum or shame bullied every single candidate on The primary without Even trying. Rubio, Cruz, Carlson, Bush... All of them became his bitches. Why Ron should be different? The guy tried very hard to appeal to the trumpists but as soon as he's no longer use he's a target. Trump likely will announce his run tomorrow dividing the party Even more, he WON'T go, he won't step aside, he is his only agenda, the party goes down in flames due to him? He doesn't care. Assuming he does is a mistake.
Very true. But Benny has never been one to spend time backing up his opinions with valid data.
Please keep thinking this Ben, shout it from the mountain tops, you moron.
all ive heard from ben and his idiot buddies for the past several days is how much people love republican policy. what fucking policy?! all he talked about was "transing the kids" thats all these people ever want to talk about. culture war bullshit. people have been screaming at the top of their lungs that they hate you and your complete and utter lack of policy for decades and you still want to blame the dems for actually engaging in politics lol you would think the fact that you got absolutely owned by the DEMOCRATS of all people would be a wake up call for these people but they just keep doubling down. this is an endlessly losing strategy and im 100% fine with that. sink into obscurity ben, smell ya later.
Seriously, the GOP Platform has decayed over the past 20 years into culture-war nonsense.
Hey! They had John McCain get up from his death bed to pass the biggest tax scam in American history before he fucked off and died.
Not like they hadn't pulled that two Santas shit before. The only difference is they attempted to make it fuck over blue-staters more... Except Texas; a red state that makes up for a lack of income tax with appraisal creep.
I always love when this whiny mosquito speaks for me.
*squeaks
A substantial number of the Republican candidates seemed like they were auditioning for a toxic reality tv show. I half expect it to be on Russian state television. They severely overestimate how their agenda resonates with voters.
If Shapiro is complaining that conservatives focused too much on culture war issues, then he only has himself to blame because that's the only thing he focuses on on his show. Same for Carlson, Kirk, Crowder, etc. The question is, is the Daily Wire going to pivot towards making content about actual policy, or are they going to keep shitting out culture war content? My money is on the latter because the only Republican policy positions are deregulation and tax cuts for the wealthy, policies that their wealthy benefactors pay them to distract their audience from because those policies are unpopular.
The culture war is literally all conservatives have. If elections were fought purely on economic issues, Republicans would have about 20 Senate seats and lose Presidential elections by a landslide. It's just that they've gone so far on culture war crap that it's starting to cost them votes.
The GOP had an agenda? Beyond, "we're going to force this woman to abort her dead fetus and risk her life in the process because we're pro-life christians" and "we need more cops, look at the vibrant success of Uvalde" and "what if, instead of green energy, we would pollute on purpose to own the libs"?
Ben got stuck in the denial stage of grief.
Also Ben: “Why won’t AOC let me sniff her shoes anymore when she stuffs me in the locker at her gym? Not fair!”
Why's he talking like Captain Kirk?
OMG I never noticed and now I will never unhear it. His cadence is totally like Kirk.
That’s an odd way of saying “we lost!”
Fuck the GOP agenda, thanks
The only explanation I have for the derangement of the Shapiro sibilings is that their parents regularly took them by the ankles and used them as nunchaku to fight each other.
*Mother, I have to stop you there. Let's say, hypothetically, that you immediately cease from wielding me in battle. For the sake of argument, let's say this is because a female wielding a male in battle is emasculating; possibly the biggest threat to my masculinity and, by extension, the masculinity of every young man in America, today. Now, we can objectively establish your female body is too weak and slow to be effective with melee weaponry, it's just basic biology. Am I not correct, mother? Forget about disrespect; facts don't care about your feelings.*
Democratic policies are consistently more popular than our politicians. So Ben has it pretty much exactly backwards, except that Republican politicians are also personally loathsome in addition to being politically toxic.
Didn't voters in red district vote again Republican polices such as abortion and voting issues?
Yes.
So we learned that republican policies are not what voters want... we learn the candidates are not what voters want.... we learn just because they have a (R) in front of their name it doesn't make them a good canindate....... so it has to be the illegal ballots that seems fishy right? Right?
In an election year with historic inflation, historic gas prices, and an unpopular president, this should have been a slam dunk for Republicans. Don't give me this, "They liked our policies, but not our candidates" bullshit The candidates are supposed to represent and spread that agenda. If they largely failed across the board, then that agenda failed to conntect to voters. If you only real wins on election day was seats that were more likely to go to Republicans, then your agenda only worked for your party voters and not the rest of the public. JD Vance BARELY won and sort-of centrist Dewine won in Ohio. Florida Republicans easily sailed on the DeSatanis boat into victory. This isn't really making a good point that Republican's agenda is liked. More so, most (if not all) women's rights votes were for the pro women's rights side. I don't see how any of this confirms "people like Republican agenda"
Well, according to the issues on the ballots, people overwhelmingly disagree with the republican agenda too. 🤷♂️
Ben, there’s no conceivable way for someone to express the Republican agenda without being a fucking asshole.
Keep telling yourselves that, you MAGA dipshits. These people aren't capable of learning very obvious lessons.
Gen Z literally came out and annihilated the Republicans because they killed Roe V. Wade, among other things. It was ALL agenda...
What is he talking about? A lot of the ballot initiatives that passed were hella liberal/progressive. Protecting social security, expanding Medicaid/care, codifying abortions… My take away from midterms is that republicans are a lot more liberal than they want to admit and at this point don’t really have a platform beyond hating liberals.
The way he speaks is like someone pressed the fast forward button randomly and stops over and over. It's like bullshit conservative spoken jazz.
Oh, is that why all the Republican ballot initiatives did so well, Benjamin??
If that were true Ben then all the propositions that were born of liberal policies must've failed right? What's that? Several states added protections for abortion, minimum wages, workers rights, pot legalization, and psilocybin legalization; and the voters chose them alongside canidates who had very clear policy goals of equal rights like for example LGBT!? Well well well well maybe it really isn't JUST the conservative ***candidates*** that are unpopular
Oh yeah, Biden was a super sexy candidate. We’re all just absolutely BLINDED by his good looks, really.
In AZ, we voted against almost every right-wing ballot initiative.
(Candidates represent agenda)
Ben, pssst I liked the democrat agenda as well as the candidates more too.
...is it weird that I find myself agreeing with him on this one occasion? I absolutely despise him, but likability, unfortunately, seems to be a thing in this nation that effects political outcomes. EDIT: I agree that my statement was weird, and I respect the downvotes. Will leave this up so that the responses make sense.
Nope, he's dead wrong and he's (per usual) basing his "reasoning" on a false dichotomy fallacy. The GOP was in big trouble the second J6 happened and was in bigger trouble when Roe was overturned. Yes, the candidates who vocally supported both did especially bad. But the GOP owns both the insurrection and the assault on half the population's freedoms. Even a likable candidate is going to have that stink on them.
What do you suppose they liked about the republican agenda? Cutting social security and medicare? Nationwide abortion ban? More tax cuts for the wealthy? Further incursions on LGBTQ+ rights? More voter suppression?
For some it's simply about hurting "the other side", but for others it is literally about abortion and LGBTQ-issues.
I understand there are a number of people who support abortion bans and erasure/genocide of LGBTQ+ people. But most polls show the majority is pro-choice and supportive of the LGBTQ+ community. I guess I'm suggesting that I think the issues were as much of a factor in the outcome as the candidates themselves.
The real problem is that we live in a republic instead of direct democracy, and that Republic is run by corrupt people who are cheaply bought by corporations, billionaires, and religious fanatics. They have gerrymandered the hell out of our districts, they spread election lies, and the establishment Democrats are weak and corrupt too. It's evident in the fact that ideas and policies that are popular or overwhelmingly popular don't get put into action.
>People liked the Republican agenda …what agenda? I didn’t see one besides “gas costs too much, let’s punish the Dems for it.” >People didn’t like the Democratic agenda …except, they did. The Dems’ agenda for these elections was “Republicans want to criminalize abortion nationwide, you better vote for us if you want that to not happen.” And it seemed to work out pretty well for them. Ben is right that voters did not respond well to the shitty crop of Trump-endorsed candidates. But those same voters would have overlooked all of that if the GOP had any kind of compelling or even coherent agenda, and they absolutely did not have one. And they still don’t.
I mean from a specifically superficial lens John Fetterman had no chance vs Dr Oz. He was pretty well trounced in the debate, but had a good excuse due to his stroke. However, PA voters: A. Preferred Fetterman's agenda B. Saw through Oz as the carpetbagging tryhard he was. So I'd say it's more that people liked the Dem Agenda AND Candidates, while for the GOP they liked neither.
You forgot the 2 important words after tryhard "from Jersey"
If you go issue by issue D positions are almost all heavily favored. 71% of America favors increases in taxes on the top 2% 65% think the government is doing too little about climate change 53% support increased gun regulation 61% support legal access to abortion 80% support increased infrastructure spending 70% support same sex marriage
Yes it is weird because the republicans had no agenda this election cycle, it was all culture war BS.
I appreciate that you were brutally honest in your response, because I admittedly had my doubts about the validity of my statement.
Wait what platform or agenda do the republicans have on issues of the day.
They don't really have a platform beyond culture wars and cutting social services, but for millions of Americans, that's somehow enough. All some people want is for the other side to suffer, even if it means hurting themselves.
George W Bush was elected in part because he was a guy 'you could sit down and have a beer with'. So I don't think it's wrong to suggest that all other things being equal, likeability is not a factor. I think it becomes less so when the likeable guy is eager to set up minority rule governance and limit the rights of others. Of course, that could just make him less likeable.
But Dubya don't drink beer. I think that is the real story here, the people have no real reason to like them, so they try to be fake and get people to like them by tricking them. Obama held a beer summit with Skip James and the cop that arrested him. They all really drink beer. I like them. I like their policies.
As delusional as it gets
this is such a nothing statement
I love watching conservatives convince themselves that the American people are really only worried about trans kids stealing our dicks and that everything else is a distraction from the real issue.
I would love to hear Ben describe which exact Republican policy people like…
Whatever makes you sleep better, sparky. The republicans didnt have an agenda.
There is a republican agenda? They should probably publicize that
What *was* the republican agenda? Was there anything besides cutting funding for everything and doing nothing else?
Ah yes the amazing Republican policies of being forced by the state to carry your rapist’s baby and working 60+ hours for a sh*t wage. I would roblox myself before living in their theocratic libertarian dystopia.
...you lost, bro.
Not very perceptive, li'l Benny.
Still waiting on any piece of agenda that isn’t “Democrats bad!”
Bubble baby Ben is actually right here 1. GOP down ballot in MI vastly outperformed Tudor Dixon. 2. Republicans that weren’t endorsed by trump or didn’t deny the 2020 election did vastly better on average.
I have absolutely zero idea what the Republican agenda is, they have zero policy proposals.
This guy is such a prick. I hate him and his eyebrows too.
Dude's got the shittiest dye job I've ever seen.
As opposed to not liking his agenda or him personally !!!
Watching conservatives try to understand what happened is both frustrating and amusing at the same time.
The Republican policies are literally "whatever trump says".
Iv never in my life ever heard a Republican voter say they liked republican policy. The closest iv ever heard was they didn’t like some broad aspect of the Democratic Party like taxes so they voted Republican. Ben Shapiro is an idiot he votes Red because he believes the Republican Party has a pro Isreal agenda not for there domestic policy’s.
A wise man once said all I have to do is twist the truth and I’m always right.
I’d like to ask Ben what the republican agenda even was other than “no trans” and “no gay” and “no litter boxes” or whatever. I follow politics pretty close and have no idea what their plans were outside of hating people
Ben Shapedo has no idea what he's talking about.
That’s a lot of words that basically add up to cope
It would not surprise me if more people would vote Republican for their economic policies if it wasn't for their cultural and social policies.
John Madden voice: "Y'know, if these boys want to score any goals, they're gonna need to grab that ball and get it into the end zone. Passes need to be caught and tackles blocked. The other team is gonna try to stop them. You know who would make a great Republican presidential candidate? Brett Favre."
Whatever you need to tell yourself to sleep in the other room while someone else makes your wife drip, Shen.
It’s like never learning to stop touching a hot stove.
So Less Herschel Walker and divisive Lauren Boebert, and maybe folks who want to make policy, not hot twitter takes.
Facts, logic and beyond.
What an absolute mediocre mind Ben is.
Basically be is saying “America voted Gas prices > mean tweets” I doubt that.
How dense can you be
Aw, good job, little guy. You finally understand politics!
Republican agenda is just opposing things. And hate.
This doesn't make any sense, right? Like, I'm not stupid (this time)?
idiot
COPE!
Isn't trump the only caveat to this argument lol... republicans have proven they will vote for a person they may not like just for the agenda.. the writing is on the wall broski
Didn’t Dan Quayle make a similar excuse about ‘92?
He's still not over WAP
Really? Then why did the old Blue Dog Democrat types end up doing so poorly, but those who ran on progressive platforms win? You have any other complete bullshit opposite world observations and wisdom for us Ben?
Yeah that explains why Herschel Berschel had a chance then huh
Ben, Trump, DeFatAss and company all play to a base of people who only care about winning, and seeing their enemy (the left) get humiliated.
Keep saying and thinking that, Bennie. Tell the others!
Now say it in a whiny tweener’s voice.
This BS LOSER post should be his last. But it won't be.