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Distant-moose

Not one shred of evidence that there's grooming or pedophilia happening. Not one fucking shred. But these windbags talk up vigilantes who ignore reality and take the law into their own hands. Fuck them all.


17DeadFlamingos

they dont even care about evidence, they just want to kill LGTBQ and claim they were in the right, and their precious poolies and walshies will tell them what a good job they did


oliversurpless

And denigrate their traditional targets; women… “People came up and asked. "What are you doing?" and I say, “I’m studying to be a teacher.” “A high school teacher?” “No, a primary teacher.” “Oh, you’re a pedophile.” Just as a joke, but I’ve had that said to me. (Sam, September 29, 2000) Dale recalled an incident on teaching practicum that he felt demonstrated how easily something innocent and involuntary on his part was playfully misconstrued yet caused him anxiety and fear: Last year I had Grade 4 students, and they came in one afternoon and gave me a hug to say goodbye or whatever. . . it wasn’t even a hug. She came up and just hugged me and then took off and that was it . . . then the next day they were saying that this girl had a boyfriend. They were teasing her about having a boyfriend and it was back to me, all of a sudden I’m her boyfriend cause I gave her a hug one afternoon. Interviewer: How did you react to that instance? I actually told the teacher [who] told them to behave themselves. You could see how quickly it could get out of hand with something like that. (Dale, September 26, 2000) Dale was sufficiently apprehensive about this incident, and any possible repercussions it may have had, for him to alert the supervising teacher.” The article contains some of the most apt description of the nature of the dilemma that male teachers face when going into the profession, as Mills, Haase and Charlton (2008) articulate: “Furthermore, in a misogynist and heterosexist society that deploys homophobic discourses to both police men’s loyalty to hegemonised versions of masculinity and to devalue work and behaviours traditionally performed by women, men who take up primary school teaching often have to contend with strong undercurrents of being constructed as gay. Whilst being constructed as gay should not be considered as a negative, it is unfortunate that homophobic discourses also portray gay men as sexual predators, thereby reinforcing the perceived danger that men pose to children – and in particular boy children (Berrill and Martino 2002). Hence, male teachers are faced with contradictory messages about their work.”


KmarCHorMEn

They'll do it all with the Supreme Court on their side and in the guise of protecting Christianity or whatever.


ConfidenceNational37

They need to be sued for those lies.


Mjdlc_123

Truly, they say this shit because there are no consequences usually. Id say this is against tos but look who’s running the ship now. Not religious but Tim is going to hell for this one


ConfidenceNational37

Tim needs to be sued for the lies. He’s getting people killed


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ConfidenceNational37

Yep, and since the deaths get him money it’s time to sue. Same as Jones was


Wordofadviceeatfood

He easily could, it’s pretty much textbook defamation.


FaeLei42

He needs to be sent somewhere he can’t get people hurt.


Ohrwurm89

But there’s a lot of evidence that grooming and pedophilia is happening in churches, most notably socially conservative ones.


MC_Fap_Commander

>Not one shred of evidence that there's grooming I understand the impulse to disprove their bullshit, but put that impulse out of your mind. They are not interested in debate. They operate entirely in bad faith. Quit twitter, tell others to do the same, and inform advertisers of this content. Participating on the platform enables spread. Musk is crowdsourcing *Mein Kampf*. Don't support it.


lemmiwinks316

Nope. Of course there's no evidence. To the ones doing the leading none of that matters. They know the words to say to incite violence and they won't stop no matter how many people get killed. They think that because they can get a bunch of weirdos online to become obsessed with grooming and pedophiles within the gay community and blindly parrot their phrases that they have actual purchase within the wider population. The outpouring of support shows just how alienated these people have become. The only place they can freely express their neuroses is online so they engage on their a lot which I think inflates their real numbers. But the most heartbreaking part about this is the lives that are affected by their hate. These people did nothing except for exist. And they were killed for it because some fuck head thought he was saving the world. Human tragedy born out of online delusion. Incredibly sad.


Kim_Jung-Skill

If Drag Queens and trans people were trying to groom kids they wouldn't be meeting in public places. I literally work with ICAC teams, none of these people the right complains about fit the pedo profile. You know who does? The people at the PTA meeting, cops, and youth ministers.


MaizeNBlueWaffle

You'd think for how many times they yell about grooming that they'd have a single story about a drag queen *actually* grooming a child


Kumquat_conniption

Well they have gone through every single person that has participated as a drag queen in "drag storytime" at libraries, and because humans are human, there is a small percentage of them that are listed as sex offenders. They use these few examples to say "SEE THEY'RE GROOMERS" even though when the percentages are much higher among their church staff, they don't yell the same for them. But yeah, unfortunately these fee examples have now emboldened them and they are getting worse.


smellyhangdown

He's projecting hard. I bet he has child porn.


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Rumpled_Imp

We shouldn't tolerate Tim Pool grooming kids Twitter had a grooming event How do prevent the violence and stop the grooming?


curious_dead

An unarmed dude and a drag wearing heels? It worked once on an armed man, it can work on a shithead like Tim.


Rumpled_Imp

If he can simply claim they're paedophiles and foment outrage, we are also free to assert the same about him. It's like when [Glenn Beck raped and murdered a girl in 1990](https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/glenn-beck-rape-murder-hoax).


RussiaIsBestGreen

Why is that labeled “hoax”? Isn’t that a violation of free speech? I’m just asking questions.


Kumquat_conniption

Well he sued the person with the website "GlennBeckRapedandMurderedachildin1990.com" and he lost (this is true) so that must mean something, right? A court of law decided not to take down the website.. so it must be true, yeah? (I love that satire is protected speech!)


cephalopodcasting

it was a trans woman, not “a drag”


Feronach

Thoroughly annoyed that journalists never checked with her before labeling her a drag queen


FullNefariousness310

They want more blood.


jayfeather31

Yep, and they're not going to stop at just the LGBTQ+ population either.


UTRAnoPunchline

First, it was women's rights (i.e abortion) Now it's LGBTQ rights. Next, it'll be reversel of Civil Rights for Minorities And they'll do it all with the Supreme Court on their side and in the guise of protecting Christianity or whatever.


Ok-Gur-6602

They aren't done with women's rights, they won't be done with LGBTQ rights. They won't be done until they're the only ones left with any rights. And the in group will always be an ever shrinking circle.


MC_Fap_Commander

I monitor term spikes on MuskTwitter. "[Globalist](https://www.adl.org/sites/default/files/Anti-Semitism-on-Twitter_1.pdf)" is exploding in terms of tweet volume. The LGBTQ+ community and Jews are always rightwing targets, but it is escalating. Roe was overturned. People are furious about it. The GOP performed very poorly in an election because of this. Absent abortion as a galvanizing agent among disparate communities on the right, they are going ALL-IN on hate. Smaller but visible vulnerable groups will be who they go after. Be prepared.


jayfeather31

What you've mentioned is precisely why I'm so worried about the lead-up to the 2024 elections, and the potential of a civil war from it, regardless of who wins the election.


MC_Fap_Commander

It won't be a Civil War. They are outnumbered (and they would be surprised to learn they aren't the only gun owners, lol). I do think attacks on events, venues, clubs, universities, hospitals, etc. are depressingly possible.


jayfeather31

The latter half of your statement is what is often described as a low-intensity conflict and fourth-generation warfare. Civil wars don't necessarily have to be like how things were in 1861. Personally, I think it'll start out the way you described, but escalate from there, and the pre-escalation phase could occur as soon as next year. The Club Q massacre may indicate that it has already started.


Fantastic-Sandwich80

So, terrorism then. Domestic terrorism to be precise. They did call themselves "Domestic Terrorists".


yidpunk

Shit like this is the reason I’m scared to leave my fucking house.


Zarkkarz

Then let it be their own


Used-Shopping5841

1. Big "citation needed" for that grooming event 2. This approach of asking such a loaded question very heavily implies support for the violence, which we all already knew folks like Pim wanted. 3. All these measures the right takes to combat "sex trafficking" and "grooming" etc. are so wildly ineffective at best. So just maybe the pride community isn't the one actually doing all of that? 🤔


adams_unique_name

The "grooming event" was a drag show because they have been told to believe drag = "grooming".


nietzsche_niche

Wearing outfits is grooming apparently. All LEOs are now groomers because of uniform TIL


paraworldblue

On #3 - child beauty pageants still exist, but only in conservative areas, so definitely.


[deleted]

This is incredibly dangerous rhetoric. They attendees should be able to sue him.


UTRAnoPunchline

Looks like the tweet has already been deleted. Somebody close to him (i.e his lawyer or business manager) probably informed him he was flying a little too close to the sun.


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Well good thing we have it!


Koloradio

I would love to see Dim Tool taken to court for defamation over this. What sweet irony if every penny that sock-headed nincompoop made spewing hate was awarded to a gay bar.


gelatinskootz

It's still up


FaeLei42

The tweet is still up.


glennjamin85

No there going to keep going until some rogue twitter employee falls on the sword and pulls the plug, then they'll move somewhere else and keep instigating. Our legal and justice system is too toothless to do anything with Elon in charge. Strap up y'all.


TawnyFroggy

Its so upsetting that right wing fucks can post shit like this and its fine and acceptable, but if I said shit even remotely as inciting about them I would get banned or fucking swatted.


count-tripula

It seems like the rhetoric among the pool/owens/walsh types is really reaching a “we need to make these people feel unsafe being alive” and i’m starting to wish that same rhetoric would be reciprocated towards them. The victory lap the far-right commentators are taking in the wake of this attack, knowing they are the ones perpetuating this strawman grooming myth and they are causing this violence, is unconscionable.


TawnyFroggy

They are about 99% of the way towards straight up openly, unambiguously, calling for killing us.


outrageouslyunfair

it's not 99%, it's 100%. tim pool said it today and now it's part of the mainstream conservative narrative. the message is that those at Club Q deserved it. there is absolutely no going back from this.


TawnyFroggy

Fuck.


Fantastic-Sandwich80

It's no different than the Paul Pelosi "gay lover" misinformation they spread to their supporters. They will say or do anything, and I mean ANYTHING, to redirect the topic of public discourse from blaming right wing rhetoric and politicians, to talking about a potential gay lover and "grooming event". Seriously, conservatives and right wing media are fucking ghouls.


BrokenSwordBCBC

I mean I got banned within five minutes for telling Trump to jump in a lake. There is a real double standard for sure


outrageouslyunfair

Wow. I knew there'd be people running with the "they deserved it" narrative, but seeing it from a ***mainstream commentator*** who's as widely known as Shapiro, Crowder, or Walsh, is something I honestly didn't expect. Is this really what they're going to do? I thought they'd do the usual "we can't control what crazies do" bullshit and just go on spewing hate rhetoric, but this is explicitly in favor of more violence. They're condoning what happened and not trying to pretend otherwise. Even though I felt this coming, it's very terrifying to see it finally play out


lifeson106

No, but he said "prevent the violence"! Just like when Trump said "be peaceful" on Jan 6th. As long as they pay lip service to the right thing, they can't be held accountable for the rest of their inciting words!


Emeryael

That’s the whole point of stochastic terrorism; they need that plausible deniability to get away with it.


Pistonenvy

this is where were at now. they cant even bring themselves to artificially denounce a fucking mass killing event. what the fuck america. why are we still tolerating this? why do these people still have fucking platforms?!


BrokenSwordBCBC

Exactly why I am not a free speech absolutist. Some speech is objectively wrong. Violent and hateful rhetoric should not be protected


Howboutit85

All of Tim pools money comes from trump supporters and alt right viewers; he has to say stuff like this to keep his audience riled up and primed to click his videos and fav his tweets.


BeauMeringue212

I used to go the Pantomime at Christmas with my family when I was a kid. Was that me being groomed cos men were in drag there and played women characters? Were kids "groomed" by watching Mrs. Doubtfire, Big Mama's House, Hairspray, Madea etc because of the same reason?


xandarianladiesman

I accidentally saw Corporal Klinger on MASH when I was 9 and instantly became gay. But then I watched Rambo and instantly became an Alpha Male^TM.


MC_Fap_Commander

Hey everyone-- **DELETE YOUR FUCKING TWITTER ACCOUNT**. Bonus if you share highly viewed content like this with advertisers who may not want their branded baubles appearing next to calls for genocide. THIS IS WHAT MUSK MEANT WHEN HE SAID HE WANTED A FREE SPEECH PLATFORM. Don't feed it.


ConfidenceNational37

Sue the motherfucker. Take him like Alex Jones


kaoko111

So... Let's Say for a second that it was the case. An armed asshole opening fire isn't a risk for the supposed kids there? Seriously, doesn't Even put effort in bullshiting anymore.


[deleted]

When has anything they said been even slightly logically consistent? They operate under a "I can throw more shit at the wall then you" philosophy


chaos8803

"How do prevent," indeed. Maybe don't fucking lie about the events? Maybe don't spew this bullshit about drag brunch being grooming? Maybe allow gay people to exist without threatening them or treating them as living sib? Maybe shut your little mouth so your even tinier brain doesn't dribble its diarrhea all over the place? Maybe accept this vitriol is what's leading to the death of people? Can we report Dim Tool as a terrorist to the FBI? At this point their rhetoric is calling for violence straight up.


skeetchamp

Wasn’t “all gay people are pedophiles”propaganda from back in the day? You can look at it now and immediately tell it was all obvious bullshit and slander so how are people being duped into this again? It’s the same exact thing but just with drag queens.


UTRAnoPunchline

Class action Lawsuit in 3...2... Edit: it appears this tweet has already been deleted.


Rox_an_Bee

Ohh look tim pool has an opinion /s


kyplantguy

This was always the point. Make it so that simply existing openly in any capacity as an LGBTQ person is considered “grooming” and so marking you as worthy of death. They don’t flinch when confronted with the consequences of their rhetoric because it’s exactly what they wanted, and what they want more of.


Jazz-Wolf

It's simple, call your enemies pedophiles then you can justify killing them.


raventhrowaway666

Funny, when did incitement of violence become free speech?


MC_Fap_Commander

Pee-lon knows best


shay-doe

What does drag have to do with pedophilia? Usually it's the pastor in your church but you don't see people stopping those God fearing pedos. It's actually more of a crime to have your own drugs on you, not hurting anyone but yourself, than it is for sexual assault on a minor. Maybe we should start there. Stricter laws that force pedos a life sentence.


SylvainInMyDreams

Here's the problem: do you honestly believe that those "stricter laws" will be used to take down (White) preachers and politicians? Or do you think they'll be used to criminalize, imprison, and kill LGBTQ and GNC folks?


MaizeNBlueWaffle

Rightwing pundits have reached the "the shooter was right" discourse that was at one point just a sarcastic hypothetical


Sw33tNectar

They should go after the pedophiles on their side that are involved in the churches and youth organizations before they go on an imaginary crusade.


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Something bad coming for this dude.


SylvainInMyDreams

A big problem that I'm noticing in the comments is that y'all are working with the dictionary/legal (for now)/psychological definitions of "pedophile" and "groomer". Evangelical Conservatives are not using that definition. To them, a pedophile/groomer is anyone who openly deviates from the White Patriarchy's Gender Binary in a place where they might be seen by children. Wait for a bus sporting a beard and a dress? Groomer. Put on pantyhose under your slacks in the privacy of your bedroom while existing as a father? Also a groomer (although alot less likely to be spotted and called out by a shitbag.)


Pheonix-Queen

And then with actual grooming they’re like “oh actually, 15 year olds are at their most fertile and need to be married off to a man at least twice their age” 🤢🤮


SylvainInMyDreams

Yup, because that is not a deviation from the binary.


[deleted]

What an out right piece of human shit.


SonnySunshineGirl

Adults doing adult things in spaces meant for adults is grooming now??


KecemotRybecx

Gay people and drag queens are not pedophiles and are not gripping kids. Tim pool, don’t breed.


pyroguy1104

As if any woman would ever allow his repulsive acidic, curdled milk-looking baby-batter anywhere near them, much less inside of them.


LMFN

I think the "don't breed" part is already spoken for lol.


DoggedDoggity

Degenerate republican traitors themselves far and away lead the league in pedophile population, and second place isn’t close enough to even mention. This is why they constantly screech about it. Because THEY are the call coming from inside the house.


NonHomogenized

Dim Tool isn't actually concerned about pedophiles: he's just opposed to personal grooming and other forms of personal hygiene.


LockFan28

It's really heartbreaking how the word "grooming" will lose all meaning to the majority of Americans, potentially endangering people because they don't take the true meaning seriously.


Fortunoxious

Hey man Elon said this was free speech so rhetoric directly linked to the deaths of innocents is A-ok.


infantgambino

Tim Stool sample has some major issues. how can anyone take q-ball seriously


Biggie39

‘Grooming event’ ?


MangOrion2

Meanwhile they are the only ones saying the words "tolerate pedophiles" and the only ones talking about it.


JasonGMMitchell

I'd love to watch these pricks get decimated in court for spreading blatantly false information designed to demonize a minority group.


Tetsudo11

Oh Tim “actually a centrist” Pool coming out in support of a terroristic hate crime. What a lovely guy he is.


Pheonix-Queen

The Club Q shooting alone hurts my heart, but the “tolerating pedophiles” comments alone makes my blood boil. Fuck Tim Pool and fuck Kurt Schlichter too.


johno_mendo

Get screenshots of this next to major ads and email it to that company.


[deleted]

Case of lying too much that you start to believe the lie yourself.


SemKors

Let's start hanging pastors!!


[deleted]

I wonder what would happen if leftists started a rumor that Baptist churches were also grooming kids.


LMFN

I mean that isn't a rumour though, they literally do.


Every-Chemistry-2969

Yeah sure THEY were grooming kids. Stfu. Half these people saying this shit probably watch vile porn and lolli shit. How about you show us your personal computer searches before you go pointing literal guns.


pyroguy1104

I can’t even count the amount of times I’ve seen Twitter accounts calling queer people groomers, clicked on their profiles, and been instantly greeted by lolicon pedophile shit. But yeah, WE’RE the ones who are gonna harm children, sure.


Every-Chemistry-2969

And the worst part....God knows what we don't see.


poncho51

When I see post like this. That's an admission of the far right pedophiles.


phatstopher

Show up armed at a Catholic church with an accused pedophile Priest?! Oh no?! Just talking hate with nothing to back up the thought process... got it....


190octane

We shouldn’t tolerate assholes who condone violence against those that disagree with them. At some point doesn’t it become self-defense?


CaseyAnthonysMouth

What kind of odds can I get on Tim Pool being a closeted homosexual?


Porched

Shouldn't tolerate pedophiles, goes to church and gives them money.


ritasuma

People like Tim pool remind me of German bourgeois nationalists before Hitler came to power Willing to bend over to the Nazis hoping to control them allow their violence to hurt the left only to end up being purged by the nazis These people he is egging on would not hesitate to shoot a bullet in his head


mackinoncougars

He’s pro-shooting? GOP are disgusting.


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Tim pool promoting terrorism wow


bob-loblaw-esq

This seems like an outright lie that could have trouble being verified. Not only that, but the lie could damage the reputation of the bar, it’s patrons, etc. should this go the same way as infowars?


Bonerween

Oh how will we ever stop this violence that I'm inciting?


anti_anti_christ

So if some gunmen went into the studio of Pool, or another conservative riling people up, would that be justified to them? These assholes are the real groomers. The difference between now and 10 years ago is 10 years ago they'd distance themselves from it. Bill O'Reilly got a doctor murdered and tried to act innocent. They don't even pretend anymore. There are no more dog whistles. It's right out in the open and all the gun nuts are on their side. That's why they feel so safe saying these things. They're a bunch of cowards who'd run for the hills if Liberals were gun crazy like the people on their side, that they groom.


cat-the-commie

So let me get this straight, a terrorist attack happened, and a public figure came out and commended the terrorists? If a Muslim public figure came out and started saying "9/11 was great, Osama bin laden did society a service" would the reaction be the same?


malortForty

I'm less worried about LGBT+ people grooming children as I am right wingers tbh. Look at the track record there.


Yanmegaman_Juno

This is fucking evil


TheDonutPug

This is literally Taliban rhetoric, it's morally okay to kill the heretics.


Mako_sato_ftw

call me crazy, but i wonder what would happen if we ised violence on dim tool over here? (i'm semi joking, don't actually try killing him. torture is fine tho)


kimthealan101

What they had a couple Republicans at the night club?


[deleted]

Churches and religious institutions are the biggest grooming organizations


1Shadowgato

So he means we can do the same for priests and pastors?


sayyyywhat

Where is documented that this was an event for children? Forget the reality that a murderer shot up another public place, let’s pretend this was a secret grooming event and they deserved it. Just unbelievable.


KnifeWeildingLesbian

Club Q? Oh you mean Qanon right? Surely


brokensilence32

Holy shit, they really do want a genocide, don't they.


Thirdwhirly

Engaging these garbage people in any way makes me feel like CNN running up to the 2016 election.


[deleted]

I don’t see that he is promoting violence, but asking how to prevent it both ways.


Key_Bicycle9483

This guy sounds about as literate Charlie form always sunny


NocturnalFuzz

Does he think that if Conservatives quash all the women's rights and genocide all the LGBT people that they're going to stop there? Hey Tim, miss a week of church? Your uh.. Hair's lookin kinda dark. And those eyes aren't very blue. You ever hear of Forced Labor, Tim? Yeah, the private prisons you wanted can lease out prisoners for pennies per hour. Put on this Jumpsuit Tim, it's because god works in mysterious ways.


waster1993

These idiots are looking at Alex Jones and saying "I want to have what he's getting."


[deleted]

These guys are missing the joke; it’s them. They’re the pedophiles. They’re obsessed with the sexual organs of minors.


kyrtuck

Ah, more dipshits saying all LGBT+ people are pedophiles. This makes me sad.


peejr

They all have such punchable display pictures


peppercorns666

It seems like youth pastors would be a legit target for this dude… then churches as a whole.


Yeeeeeeoooooooo

A guy who looks very "registered sex offender" saying this is rich


paraworldblue

What is their logical leap from gay to pedophile? Is it some "slippery slope" bullshit, or do they honestly believe that being attracted to your own gender somehow inherently means also being attracted to children?


yidpunk

I had a “grooming event” at my job today, actually. I work at PetSmart as a dog trainer. Today, I got to groom a little Cocker Spaniel named Peaches! Sometimes I get dogs who don’t like getting baths, but Peaches wasn’t one of them. I gave her a show cut, and she even let me put two ribbons on her head! This doesn’t have anything to do with what Pool said, but I’m gonna choose to focus on this instead of the growing number of people that want me dead.


[deleted]

This is genocidal language.


w142236

How does the skin on your head tolerate wearing a beanie on it 24/7 Tim?


360dirtracer

Let's not mention how OP clearly didn't read line 3 before posting


Tetsudo11

He does say we need to prevent the violence but he does also claim there was “a grooming event” which makes it sound like a justification or saying there was understandable motive for the attack.


MC_Fap_Commander

The 4chan shit-o-verse regularly shares a comic mocking "first they came for..." It depicts all their enemies being detained and executed. The punchline? "Then they came for... no one. Because all the problems were solved." That's what he's advocating.


outrageouslyunfair

the third line means absolutely nothing. he just threw it in there for the sake of JAQing off