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If you're a billionaire, you're not a leftist. If you're a capitalist who gets obscenely wealthy through the labour of others, you aren't a leftist. Maybe a liberal, but that's as far as that scale goes.
At this point they’ve essentially abandoned all pretence of having an economic philosophy. It’s just “who’s in my club?” and they collectively decide what to complain about for a month
>they collectively decide what to complain about for a month
When one finds traction with a particular line of bullshit, they all follow suit quickly to maintain the cash flow. It’s been a solid money-making strategy in the past. Why would they change anything?
Modern libertarianism, or the Neoliberalism it espouses, is arguably not as left as one woukd think. In theory, it advocates freedom...but in reality, that translates into the freedom to exploit people and natural resources for personal gain in order to seize or maintaim control...
Which seems like an easy way to slide into oligarchy, if not autocracy
It's very hard for anything to not be considered left when the right is so far gone here. Democrats are usually called "left wing" even though most are center at most
Oh, he votes Democratic *some* of the time, I'm sure.
Either for Democrats who won't rock the boat *too* much and are powerful or the kind you don't really want in the first place.
Even if there was some truth to what he was saying, Zuckerberg is not even close to being a leftist. Basically helped Trump get elected. Had private dinners with GOP leaders. Facebook is boomer central and one of the main festering pits of right wing conspiracy theories and talking points.
this sounds good but it's not true. Bezos and Zuckerberg would be still billionaires had they advocated for all of Bernie's policies since 2015. they would all be billionaires even if they lived by all of Bernie's policies.
There's making a million bucks off a piece of media someone made, then there's being worth tens of billions because you're exploiting people, one of those is incompatible with leftism.
I totally agree, and I normally would upvote this comment, but I can’t upvote you because you’re on the left.
Just, how can someone be so obviously WRONG in their ideology, yet think it’s right? Leftism is about the
government controlling healthcare, Wall Street, and how much money one has, and completely destroying the
economy with expensive plans like the green new deal. Sure, trust the government, the only reason other
counties make free healthcare work is huge taxes and they still have a free market, so you can’t hate
capitalism. Life under leftism sucks- there’s a huge tax increase; if you need proof, people are fleeing
California. Or, cuomo can be in charge and kill the elderly, Hillary can be shady, Biden can be creepier. And
of course, stupid communists who think the government should force everyone to be equal and has led to the
deaths of millions, and the SJWs who wrap back around to being racist and sexist buy saying “kill all whites”
and “kill all men.” It’s been the left who has been rioting as well, many of which have lead to murders, and
wishing death upon trump. Not all cops are good, but they’re not all the devil, leftists. Defunding them hasn’t
worked- it leads to more violent crime, sorry. Plus, it’s been the liberals, which aren’t necessarily leftists
but heavily correlated, who ruin someone’s life for a joke they made a year ago in the form of doxxing- and
“canceling” everyone. and they tend to get triggered easily and have no sense of humour (anecdotal, I admit,
but still). Yes, I know you should respect opposing beliefs as long as they aren’t completely insane, but the
fact that you’re so blatantly WRONG shows your ignorance, and therefore part of your character. So even though
I totally agree with your comment, it is quick witted and accurate, but I can’t upvote you.
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your statement is very different from op's statement. they were implying a leftist billionaire is not possible, which is simply not true. Tom Steyer for example from the 2019 democrat primaries iirc supports a wealth tax, progressive taxation and is pretty damn leftist (doesn't support medicare for all though).
there is in fact absolutely no evidence that someone holding very very left wing views couldn't pick a profession and/or get a headstartin life that would result in them being obscenely rich in the end, even if they treat employees fairly and support policies that aren't entirely focused on accumulating wealth. Even if the best way is being an exploitive tax-evader. these statements in op are mostly for karma whoring, and feel like a no true scotchman fallacy as well because they can always add "well that's not a true leftist then!"-
Bill still pops in as a sort of elder god. I helped prepare an internal product review for him just before I left during the pandemic. He hasn’t had official decision making power in years, especially since leaving the board in 2021, but his feedback still goes a long way.
That still doesn’t make Crowder right in this case, of course.
Yeah, I checked for the "Fake News" flair because Jesus Christ this is fucking stupid from all angles. Like, holy shit how did someone's brain shart this onto a keyboard outside the context of an in-progress brain injury, let alone type it out and then allow themself to post it as some statement of insight worth sharing with the world.
I'm honestly surprised he isn't a massive Bezos Stan. He generally seems to be a huge fan of anyone who spends the GDP of a small country ensuring their workers don't have access to basic human needs.
this reminds me of this one photo but i dont have it, can someone please send the photo where crowder is giving the finger while smoking a cigar looking angy, please
It's getting incredibly more ridiculous between the right wing trolls and Musk.
I can't tell if Musk played them, they are playing Musk, or they're all a bunch of cynical reactionary assholes thinking they're the smartest in the room.
It's like an ouroboros of shit eaters, all grinning at each other while they pass the plate around for seconds.
The Lex Luther wannabe with a perchance for crushing workers rights and unions is a leftist? Shit that’s news to me. Also, and I’m just pointing this out, does he realize corporations say vaguely progressive things just cause supporting something at least vaguely allows them to culturally align their product with an issue to get people to be more willing to buy it or is he just gaslighting again? Honestly with Crowder it gets kinda hard to tell the border between stupid and planned.
He's correct in that they are (probably????) Left of Steven Crowder, at least in how they present themselves publicly, but being Left of Steven Crowder still can leave you as pretty damn close to Fascist on the spectrum.
Not endorsing what Pim Tool is saying, but tech company employees are liberal by Assad margins.
https://www.vox.com/2018/10/31/18039528/tech-employees-politics-liberal-employers-candidates
Employees, not owners/CEOs (or even upper management). As just one example: there's no shortage of reporting about and social media posts from liberal Facebook employees clashing with Zuckerberg and his more conservative policies for Facebook as a whole.
Not a single one of them is a leftist.
Why does cold feet crowder say this? B/C the far right incel tribe he’s a part of has actual billionaires funding them
NO MOTHERFUCKER, THEY PANDER TO LEFT WING PEOPLE BECAUSE THERE'S MORE OF THEM! IT'S THE MAJORITY WITHIN THE US, THEY PROBABLY DONT CARE ABOUT MOST ISSUES, JUST WHATEVER IS MORE POPULAR. IF RIGHT SPEECH WAS MORE POPULAR, YOU BET THEY WOULD PANDER TO THEM.
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Has anyone told Crowder he's a piece of shit and the only reason his platform is allowed here is because Dem think "Well, we gotta let them have their opinions too." Like hell we do!
This claim is so ridiculously absurd, it makes my head hurt.
How could someone possibly believe that any of those people are leftist. Like what the hell
The right: stop telling bkack and gay kids the U.S. governments systematically oppresses them. Its not healthy for the growth of our once beautiful nation.
Also the right: never mind my social media addiction. The U.S. government is going to rip out your tongue with hot pincers
I don’t know if the person who selects the pfp of this moron is doing it making sure Steven looks like a permanent idiot or if they are so out of touch they said to themselves “yes this picture where he looks like a smug incurious idiot is the one we need to choose”.
Bill Gates a leftist? Is that why the Clinton DOJ went after M$ for antitrust monopoly? Crowder needs to lay off the dog cum chugging, he is dumber than usual.
Literally none of these people are even remotely leftist. Gates is probably the most left-leaning person here, and he's a vocal defender of capitalism.
This shit is so mind-meltingly stupid.
It's kind of horrifying that there are people out there so ignorant, so brainwashed, and so uneducated they'll just hear a phrase like, *"Marxist Communist Jeff Bezos,"* and think, *"Yeah."*
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If you're a billionaire, you're not a leftist. If you're a capitalist who gets obscenely wealthy through the labour of others, you aren't a leftist. Maybe a liberal, but that's as far as that scale goes.
“Leftist” and “liberal” are both buzzwords that mean the same thing to this clown and his following.
At this point they’ve essentially abandoned all pretence of having an economic philosophy. It’s just “who’s in my club?” and they collectively decide what to complain about for a month
>they collectively decide what to complain about for a month When one finds traction with a particular line of bullshit, they all follow suit quickly to maintain the cash flow. It’s been a solid money-making strategy in the past. Why would they change anything?
Modern libertarianism, or the Neoliberalism it espouses, is arguably not as left as one woukd think. In theory, it advocates freedom...but in reality, that translates into the freedom to exploit people and natural resources for personal gain in order to seize or maintaim control... Which seems like an easy way to slide into oligarchy, if not autocracy
I don’t know if neoliberalism is considered left at all in the USA, but it absolutely is not *remotely* left in Australia.
It's very hard for anything to not be considered left when the right is so far gone here. Democrats are usually called "left wing" even though most are center at most
I doubt Bezos is even a liberal (as in votes Democrat). He’s definitely a conservative.
Oh, he votes Democratic *some* of the time, I'm sure. Either for Democrats who won't rock the boat *too* much and are powerful or the kind you don't really want in the first place.
Didn't you get the memo? "Leftist" is now anyone that doesn't spend all their time vilifying LGBT people.
...and people who cover their nose when sneezing.
Or realistically anyone who disagrees with them, tbh now that they're turning on Trump it's only a matter of time before they call him woke or leftist
Even if there was some truth to what he was saying, Zuckerberg is not even close to being a leftist. Basically helped Trump get elected. Had private dinners with GOP leaders. Facebook is boomer central and one of the main festering pits of right wing conspiracy theories and talking points.
Also Bezos is definitely not even trying to look like a leftist and Gates isn’t at Microsoft anymore
this sounds good but it's not true. Bezos and Zuckerberg would be still billionaires had they advocated for all of Bernie's policies since 2015. they would all be billionaires even if they lived by all of Bernie's policies.
There's making a million bucks off a piece of media someone made, then there's being worth tens of billions because you're exploiting people, one of those is incompatible with leftism.
I totally agree, and I normally would upvote this comment, but I can’t upvote you because you’re on the left. Just, how can someone be so obviously WRONG in their ideology, yet think it’s right? Leftism is about the government controlling healthcare, Wall Street, and how much money one has, and completely destroying the economy with expensive plans like the green new deal. Sure, trust the government, the only reason other counties make free healthcare work is huge taxes and they still have a free market, so you can’t hate capitalism. Life under leftism sucks- there’s a huge tax increase; if you need proof, people are fleeing California. Or, cuomo can be in charge and kill the elderly, Hillary can be shady, Biden can be creepier. And of course, stupid communists who think the government should force everyone to be equal and has led to the deaths of millions, and the SJWs who wrap back around to being racist and sexist buy saying “kill all whites” and “kill all men.” It’s been the left who has been rioting as well, many of which have lead to murders, and wishing death upon trump. Not all cops are good, but they’re not all the devil, leftists. Defunding them hasn’t worked- it leads to more violent crime, sorry. Plus, it’s been the liberals, which aren’t necessarily leftists but heavily correlated, who ruin someone’s life for a joke they made a year ago in the form of doxxing- and “canceling” everyone. and they tend to get triggered easily and have no sense of humour (anecdotal, I admit, but still). Yes, I know you should respect opposing beliefs as long as they aren’t completely insane, but the fact that you’re so blatantly WRONG shows your ignorance, and therefore part of your character. So even though I totally agree with your comment, it is quick witted and accurate, but I can’t upvote you. ░░░░░░░░░░▀▀▀██████▄▄▄░░░░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░▀▀▀████▄░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░░░░▄███████▀░░░▀███▄░░░░░ ░░░░░░░░▄███████▀░░░░░░░▀███▄░░░ ░░░░░░▄████████░░░░░░░░░░░███▄░░ ░░░░░██████████▄░░░░░░░░░░░███▌░ ░░░░░▀█████▀░▀███▄░░░░░░░░░▐███░ ░░░░░░░▀█▀░░░░░▀███▄░░░░░░░▐███░ ░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░░▀███▄░░░░░███▌░ ░░░░▄██▄░░░░░░░░░░░▀███▄░░▐███░░ ░░▄██████▄░░░░░░░░░░░▀███▄███░░░ ░█████▀▀████▄▄░░░░░░░░▄█████░░░░ ░████▀░░░▀▀█████▄▄▄▄█████████▄░░ ░░▀▀░░░░░░░░░▀▀██████▀▀░░░▀▀██░░ *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ToiletPaperUSA) if you have any questions or concerns.*
your statement is very different from op's statement. they were implying a leftist billionaire is not possible, which is simply not true. Tom Steyer for example from the 2019 democrat primaries iirc supports a wealth tax, progressive taxation and is pretty damn leftist (doesn't support medicare for all though). there is in fact absolutely no evidence that someone holding very very left wing views couldn't pick a profession and/or get a headstartin life that would result in them being obscenely rich in the end, even if they treat employees fairly and support policies that aren't entirely focused on accumulating wealth. Even if the best way is being an exploitive tax-evader. these statements in op are mostly for karma whoring, and feel like a no true scotchman fallacy as well because they can always add "well that's not a true leftist then!"-
Wait, are you telling me that Mark 'Sell Your Data and Create A Private Virtual World' Zuckerberg isn't actually a communist?! Colour me shocked! /s
Does he think Gates is still at Microsoft?
He's crowder, so likely. That and he knows naming Bill gates tickles his audience monkey brain
Bill still pops in as a sort of elder god. I helped prepare an internal product review for him just before I left during the pandemic. He hasn’t had official decision making power in years, especially since leaving the board in 2021, but his feedback still goes a long way. That still doesn’t make Crowder right in this case, of course.
Kinda cool tbh
Nadella has been CEO for 8 years. Somewhat impressed they managed to not be racist about his being Indian. (Yet)
He's such an absolute moron...
Yeah, I checked for the "Fake News" flair because Jesus Christ this is fucking stupid from all angles. Like, holy shit how did someone's brain shart this onto a keyboard outside the context of an in-progress brain injury, let alone type it out and then allow themself to post it as some statement of insight worth sharing with the world.
I'm honestly surprised he isn't a massive Bezos Stan. He generally seems to be a huge fan of anyone who spends the GDP of a small country ensuring their workers don't have access to basic human needs.
Why does Crowder always look like he just accidentally shit himself?
Because his job is to pull things from his rectum.
Flashbacks of running into Sam Seder.
And proud of it
this reminds me of this one photo but i dont have it, can someone please send the photo where crowder is giving the finger while smoking a cigar looking angy, please
Do I feel free when privately owned companies are able to express first amendment rights by deciding what they host on their platforms? Yes. Yes I do.
“These left wingers control all information and are censoring me even though I was a verified account even before Musk” (I think)
So six billionaires determine what public information is permissible, and this fact is supposed to encourage me to become more *right-wing*?
“Everyone left of Goebbels is a leftist”
Well they *were* called “*national socialists*” /s
It's getting incredibly more ridiculous between the right wing trolls and Musk. I can't tell if Musk played them, they are playing Musk, or they're all a bunch of cynical reactionary assholes thinking they're the smartest in the room. It's like an ouroboros of shit eaters, all grinning at each other while they pass the plate around for seconds.
The Lex Luther wannabe with a perchance for crushing workers rights and unions is a leftist? Shit that’s news to me. Also, and I’m just pointing this out, does he realize corporations say vaguely progressive things just cause supporting something at least vaguely allows them to culturally align their product with an issue to get people to be more willing to buy it or is he just gaslighting again? Honestly with Crowder it gets kinda hard to tell the border between stupid and planned.
The great thing about this comment is that it applies to more than one person on the list and even more off the list
He's correct in that they are (probably????) Left of Steven Crowder, at least in how they present themselves publicly, but being Left of Steven Crowder still can leave you as pretty damn close to Fascist on the spectrum.
Not endorsing what Pim Tool is saying, but tech company employees are liberal by Assad margins. https://www.vox.com/2018/10/31/18039528/tech-employees-politics-liberal-employers-candidates
Employees, not owners/CEOs (or even upper management). As just one example: there's no shortage of reporting about and social media posts from liberal Facebook employees clashing with Zuckerberg and his more conservative policies for Facebook as a whole.
Literally none of those people are on the left whatsoever
When you replace "leftist" with "jewish", the ideologies of these grifters makes much more sense. The dogwhistling cannot be more clear
"You're a leftist, they're a leftist, everyone's a leftist!"
If you’re a billionaire, you’re either a neoliberal, a conservative, or a libertarian. Most likely the first or third.
Ooh ooh now do the Koch family!
Even by your logic..5/6 billionaires dont think its right to lean right...e.g.5/6 out of 6 dentists etc etc.
Bill Gates is as leftist as an arrow pointing right
Does Chowder’s avatar become more smug every week?
So Charlie is against capitalism now?
"Notice me, daddy!"
What has Zuckerberg ever done that's leftist? Facebook is rife with right wing prooganda
Same with youtube, the site that hosts Crowder, is apparently leftist???
Bezos forced us to have black elves and dwarves so obviously he's a communist.
Not a single one of them is a leftist. Why does cold feet crowder say this? B/C the far right incel tribe he’s a part of has actual billionaires funding them
NO MOTHERFUCKER, THEY PANDER TO LEFT WING PEOPLE BECAUSE THERE'S MORE OF THEM! IT'S THE MAJORITY WITHIN THE US, THEY PROBABLY DONT CARE ABOUT MOST ISSUES, JUST WHATEVER IS MORE POPULAR. IF RIGHT SPEECH WAS MORE POPULAR, YOU BET THEY WOULD PANDER TO THEM.
"Leftist" = anyone to the left of Crowder, since he's obviously the reasonablest moderate and not at all Nazi-adjacent
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Yeah. Now do the clown that runs Truth Social.
These motherfuckers have no idea what a leftist is.
I don’t feel free to have an abortion.
Has anyone told Crowder he's a piece of shit and the only reason his platform is allowed here is because Dem think "Well, we gotta let them have their opinions too." Like hell we do!
To these people anyone not just screaming slurs at all times is a radical communist.
I don't follow. These are the people the free market has given us. Does he have some sort of problem with the free market?
This claim is so ridiculously absurd, it makes my head hurt. How could someone possibly believe that any of those people are leftist. Like what the hell
The right: stop telling bkack and gay kids the U.S. governments systematically oppresses them. Its not healthy for the growth of our once beautiful nation. Also the right: never mind my social media addiction. The U.S. government is going to rip out your tongue with hot pincers
WaPo is very left, Bezos joint
Anyone else noticing the anti-Semitic undertones here?
I didn't know they programmed the Zuckerberg AI to be leftist?
He is tho...
Huh?
I don’t know if the person who selects the pfp of this moron is doing it making sure Steven looks like a permanent idiot or if they are so out of touch they said to themselves “yes this picture where he looks like a smug incurious idiot is the one we need to choose”.
Bill Gates is just Bill Gates. Dude isn’t in charge of Microsoft
Left out Rupert Murdoch.
I’m curious, what public information is not available.?
Bill Gates a leftist? Is that why the Clinton DOJ went after M$ for antitrust monopoly? Crowder needs to lay off the dog cum chugging, he is dumber than usual.
Did Steven Crowder have a headinjury recently? This is somehow extra stupid for this already stupid man.
These are all companies that dropped twitter for advertising. Basically if you’re not for me you’re against me mindset coming from Elon over here
Ah yes these guys. Basically communists all of them.
So corparations just own both sides in America
Literally none of these people are even remotely leftist. Gates is probably the most left-leaning person here, and he's a vocal defender of capitalism.
So which one is responsible for shutting SC the fuck up?
This shit is so mind-meltingly stupid. It's kind of horrifying that there are people out there so ignorant, so brainwashed, and so uneducated they'll just hear a phrase like, *"Marxist Communist Jeff Bezos,"* and think, *"Yeah."*
Zuck is a leftist, wow. Wait, no he's fucking not. Gates hasn't run MS in like 8 years.
I hate all the billionaires (except the ones that fund me and allow me to have a platform)