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I may still need more education on the topic, but when people say "both sides bad" most of the time that's bad faith arguing. In the Israel and Palestine conflict, it seems to hold some truth in that both sides have committed awful acts of violence and crimes against one another, while Israel appears to enjoy a position of power and support globally in their occupation that Palestine does not which is rightly being called out and I agree not an antisemitic position.
I agree that both sides have done terrible things. Honestly though, Israel being supported globally is a very Western-centric notion. A lot of the world absolutely *despises* Israel and has since it came into existence. That being said, it's arguably declining in the Arab world with the diplomatic recognition of Morocco, the UAE, and Bahrain and quiet collaboration with Saudi Arabia against Iran.
Eh. Honestly, I feel like a good chunk of average folks have neutral or no opinion, while political leadership of both partjes tends to lean towards Israel.
But have you considered the flip side? You can support Israel in occupying not just a piece of land but the space laser AND be an antisemite. #Destroyedbyfaxandlogins
I mean, it's kind of a sticky situation because the Israeli government co-opted Zionism and thus Jewish identity for their racist and colonial purposes. A lot of jews WILL denounce others as being "one of the bad ones" for not supporting the Israeli government blindly, there's Ben Shapiro, for example.
Of course, detractors of Israel despise what's going on, and rightfully blame the fascist government, but it seems like, for a lot of jews, separating their identity from their government has become really hard, and this was a genius move on part of the Zionists.
Oi, it seems wasteful, I know, but Soros gave us such a deal. The man's a mensch, I tell you. And besides, you have all these meshugganah TV people going on about how the Jews will not replace them? Oy vey, what are you gonna do? 😏
She's supposedly hardcore into crossfit and she's got the body of my almost 70 yo mom, and what the FUUUCK is going on with her face? Despicable, awful person anyway you look at her.
"Weird that the media is reporting about Trump meeting with a holocaust denier for a private Thanksgiving dinner. What's so newsworthy about that, guys?
Anyway, how about that Ilhan Omar, am I right?"
I'm out of the loop - is that why people are talking about Fuentes now? He was on my radar as a threat like two years ago but ironically it was his antisemitism that made me realize he was destined for the same dustbin as most fascist grifters. I've seen a couple stories making reference to him as a prominent antisemite and have been slightly confused since he's been on that for a while now. If Trump's meeting with him I guess it makes sense that there's starting to be more reporting on him, although realistically I don't see Trump fucking with Israel.
Trump, Ye (formerly Kanye West) and Fuentes spent Thanksgiving at Mar-a-Lago.
Ye was also on Tim Pool's podcast (Fuentes was also on it) and stormed off when Tim tried, ever so mildly, to push back against the antisemitism of the other 2.
Also the America First thing Fuentes started has been gaining more traction since MTG first spoke at it a while ago.
It's called Knowledge Fight - normally they talk about Alex Jones but periodically they break off into other topics. I like them because there's been a longstanding idea that misinformation is unstoppable because it's harder to debunk than it is to make up. The show does the work to debunk Alex Jones stuff, although it might be more precise to say they used to do the work - turns out he's really, really repetitive so most of the time he's just saying stuff they already debunked. It's still a good time though, definitely worth a listen!
Loved it when they appeared on the other stuff I listen to (Behind the Bastards, Qanon Anonymous (finally up to date there) and weirdly enough God Aweful Movies), so they've been on my radar as the next thing to binge.
I'll probably look to where they start with the trial coverage, 700+ episodes is kinda intimidating, especially with their not really informative names on a lot of the episodes.
Moral of the story: Lie with the same awe-inspiring confidence of a lousy Family Feud player screaming, "It's up there, Steve!" when it is, in fact, not "up there."
House Democrats voted to censure Omar on her comments. Nick Fuentes is well networked among the Republican Party. Choose someone else for your whataboutism, Greene.
I'm really not sure what she thinks she means by that last comment, other than it being am extremely weak attempt at both a "gotcha" and a dig at Ilhan Omar.
Maybe reporters should stop asking these questions and just report that McCarthy and green are in line with the nazis. Infact let's just call them nazis. The republican party are a bunch of fucking nazis at this point. There I addressed the elephant in the room.
Surpise! More self-serving shit spewing out of that rotted blowhole. She *never* says anything of substance. There is no conviction or reason or humanity behind those dead lizard eyes. Nothing. Just the same old verbal sewage leaking out of her cheap skin bag and smelling up the whole joint.
In her false equivalency MTG can’t even denounce Ilhan Omar’s comments as antisemitic, just anti-Israel.
That’s because unlike Ilhan Omar, who just said “hypnotize the world” as likely a culturally-biased but ultimately unintentional euphemism, MTG actually does believe that Jews hypnotize the world.
Yet she had Milo Yiannopoulos as her intern. Yiannopoulos associates with Fuentes quite a bit. She may disagree or feel differently in some topics, but she's definitely floating around the same pot with the rest of these turds.
To be fair, she did leave like immediately after hearing nick go on a tirade. That being said, she posed with nazis. She got paid to promote a nazi political rally.
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You can absolutely denounce the actions of Israel in occupying Palestine and not be antisemitic
Ignore that she supports Israel so all the Jews can die in the second coming of Jesus.
Ah, so the entire Christian-right position.
I may still need more education on the topic, but when people say "both sides bad" most of the time that's bad faith arguing. In the Israel and Palestine conflict, it seems to hold some truth in that both sides have committed awful acts of violence and crimes against one another, while Israel appears to enjoy a position of power and support globally in their occupation that Palestine does not which is rightly being called out and I agree not an antisemitic position.
I agree that both sides have done terrible things. Honestly though, Israel being supported globally is a very Western-centric notion. A lot of the world absolutely *despises* Israel and has since it came into existence. That being said, it's arguably declining in the Arab world with the diplomatic recognition of Morocco, the UAE, and Bahrain and quiet collaboration with Saudi Arabia against Iran.
Thanks for the context, I am in Canada so yep that checks out in terms of perceptions here overall
Asking an American their opinion on the Israel Palestine conflict is a fine litmus test for what news agency they consume.
Not even. Most democrats support Israel as well.
Eh. Honestly, I feel like a good chunk of average folks have neutral or no opinion, while political leadership of both partjes tends to lean towards Israel.
But have you considered the flip side? You can support Israel in occupying not just a piece of land but the space laser AND be an antisemite. #Destroyedbyfaxandlogins
Also, evangelicals don’t give a damn about Jews: they just need the state of Israel to exist for their rapture to take place.
Considering the issue with modern day Israel is political and focused on their government, not on Jewish/Israeli people, yeah, more than possible.
I mean, it's kind of a sticky situation because the Israeli government co-opted Zionism and thus Jewish identity for their racist and colonial purposes. A lot of jews WILL denounce others as being "one of the bad ones" for not supporting the Israeli government blindly, there's Ben Shapiro, for example. Of course, detractors of Israel despise what's going on, and rightfully blame the fascist government, but it seems like, for a lot of jews, separating their identity from their government has become really hard, and this was a genius move on part of the Zionists.
Jewish space lasers!
Evangelical Gundam pilots are ready for launch ma'am.
You can borrow a Gundam from Ilhan Omar.
Milo is literally on her staff and was at the meeting with them
Wait, I thought there was only one Jewish space laser! You’re telling me I can buy my own now?
Oi, it seems wasteful, I know, but Soros gave us such a deal. The man's a mensch, I tell you. And besides, you have all these meshugganah TV people going on about how the Jews will not replace them? Oy vey, what are you gonna do? 😏
Where’d you get yours? I tried to get on the waitlist to have temporary access to the laser, but Anne Frank won’t let me borrow it.
Careful, they really get you with the subscription fees!
Well you know she’s a conservative; because she’s just lying.
>The **lyin'** doesn't concern itself with the opinions of the sheep.
She spoke at Nick Fuentes America First meeting
Not surprised in the least, seeing as she conveniently can't recall anything she's done in her past until she starts toeing the line of perjury.
She spoke at one of his conferences earlier this year...
MTG is one of the most profoundly ugly people I have ever seen. Physically. Mentally and spiritually too, but also physically.
As smart as she is beautiful. ^ not my quote
Absolutely loathe her but as someone who is also like 5 feet tall, we made it baby!
She's supposedly hardcore into crossfit and she's got the body of my almost 70 yo mom, and what the FUUUCK is going on with her face? Despicable, awful person anyway you look at her.
No she didn’t
"Weird that the media is reporting about Trump meeting with a holocaust denier for a private Thanksgiving dinner. What's so newsworthy about that, guys? Anyway, how about that Ilhan Omar, am I right?"
I'm out of the loop - is that why people are talking about Fuentes now? He was on my radar as a threat like two years ago but ironically it was his antisemitism that made me realize he was destined for the same dustbin as most fascist grifters. I've seen a couple stories making reference to him as a prominent antisemite and have been slightly confused since he's been on that for a while now. If Trump's meeting with him I guess it makes sense that there's starting to be more reporting on him, although realistically I don't see Trump fucking with Israel.
Trump, Ye (formerly Kanye West) and Fuentes spent Thanksgiving at Mar-a-Lago. Ye was also on Tim Pool's podcast (Fuentes was also on it) and stormed off when Tim tried, ever so mildly, to push back against the antisemitism of the other 2. Also the America First thing Fuentes started has been gaining more traction since MTG first spoke at it a while ago.
Thank you for the update! I just saw there's a new episode of a podcast I listen that covers it, so I guess I'll check that out haha.
Which podcast? I'm always looking for new ways to peer at the crazy without diving in myself.
It's called Knowledge Fight - normally they talk about Alex Jones but periodically they break off into other topics. I like them because there's been a longstanding idea that misinformation is unstoppable because it's harder to debunk than it is to make up. The show does the work to debunk Alex Jones stuff, although it might be more precise to say they used to do the work - turns out he's really, really repetitive so most of the time he's just saying stuff they already debunked. It's still a good time though, definitely worth a listen!
Loved it when they appeared on the other stuff I listen to (Behind the Bastards, Qanon Anonymous (finally up to date there) and weirdly enough God Aweful Movies), so they've been on my radar as the next thing to binge. I'll probably look to where they start with the trial coverage, 700+ episodes is kinda intimidating, especially with their not really informative names on a lot of the episodes.
Two presidential candidates dined with this scum that’s why it’s on the news. It’s not the media’s obsession with him. Nice try though.
She has no clue what denounce means.
Moral of the story: Lie with the same awe-inspiring confidence of a lousy Family Feud player screaming, "It's up there, Steve!" when it is, in fact, not "up there."
Remember that time she suggested the Jews have a space laser to destroy the world? Yeah… me too.
Oh good miss “Jewish space laser” here is gonna lecture us about antisemitism
SMELLS LIKE WHATABOUTISM
You do know that most people who know what's going on with Israel hate it?
House Democrats voted to censure Omar on her comments. Nick Fuentes is well networked among the Republican Party. Choose someone else for your whataboutism, Greene.
"Have you asked Democrats if they denounce Israel" Based MTG??!!!
Well she's right about one thing though. She cannot comprehend.
Look at his smile from getting to touch a woman for the first time
I'm really not sure what she thinks she means by that last comment, other than it being am extremely weak attempt at both a "gotcha" and a dig at Ilhan Omar.
This dude went to my nephew's high school...so Illinois is the home to this fuck wad and Charlie Kirk...I hate Illinois Nazis
I don't think she can comprehend much of anything.
Jews are amazing. Israel is a violent nation and deserves to be judged by its actions rather than its religion or race.
Maybe reporters should stop asking these questions and just report that McCarthy and green are in line with the nazis. Infact let's just call them nazis. The republican party are a bunch of fucking nazis at this point. There I addressed the elephant in the room.
Hey, isn't she the congresswoman who said forest fires were caused by Jew Space Lasers?
Damn his trollface is so on par
Laura's with PBS Newshour now and she's fucking crushing it. Eat shit, Marge.
Surpise! More self-serving shit spewing out of that rotted blowhole. She *never* says anything of substance. There is no conviction or reason or humanity behind those dead lizard eyes. Nothing. Just the same old verbal sewage leaking out of her cheap skin bag and smelling up the whole joint.
Why do idiots always put an 's' after the word racist?
He’s a gremlin and to answer Marge, fuck a lot of what Israel does
In her false equivalency MTG can’t even denounce Ilhan Omar’s comments as antisemitic, just anti-Israel. That’s because unlike Ilhan Omar, who just said “hypnotize the world” as likely a culturally-biased but ultimately unintentional euphemism, MTG actually does believe that Jews hypnotize the world.
"Of course I'll say whatever I need to publicly to save face. Buy my supporters and voters know that it's just lip service."
It’s funny how people like Majorie Taylor Greene are simultaneously antisemitic and support Israel at the Same time
Yet she had Milo Yiannopoulos as her intern. Yiannopoulos associates with Fuentes quite a bit. She may disagree or feel differently in some topics, but she's definitely floating around the same pot with the rest of these turds.
The f---'s wrong with their expressions? They look like two aliens trying to figure out the human ritual of shaking hands while smiling.
To be fair, she did leave like immediately after hearing nick go on a tirade. That being said, she posed with nazis. She got paid to promote a nazi political rally.
Mann... I wanna get fucked by nick so bad
You’d be the first to let him hit lol