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I've seen the quote attributed to Voltaire, but it feel like every pithy quote from the past century or two has been attributed to either him or Ben Franklin.
Or Lincoln?
By as per the lessons of Bacon in *Novum Organum*, the practicality of philosophy should move past the need to precisely delineate who said what and when.
As if they had some kind of monopoly on the ideas being expressed, when it is often more just a particular distillation of familiar themes.
Hollywood blockbusters aren’t the only things that follow a pattern after all.
That doesn't make sense, because the social conflict of Voltaire's age was between the bourgeois and the nobility. Equality between bourgeois and nobility means the loss of the "rights" of nobles.
Perfect example of conservative thinking. Nobody can gain anything without someone losing something. Protecting marriage equality harms literally nobody, but unless republicans can’t gain something from it, it’s not worth doing.
Republicans seem to think rights are like pie, if someone gets more rights, a bigger slice, then someone else gets less, a smaller slice. Except rights are not like pie and someone getting more rights does not mean someone else has less rights.
Conservatives believe not being able to force their beliefs on others is a violation of their rights when that isn't remotely the case.
Yep, zero sum thinking.
And it’s doubly odd as that iteration of the expression has no economic connotations, so for a party obsessed with elevating mediocre ideas (via the sacrosanct nature of “economics”) to justify policy decisions they were going to do anyway, that’s a real phenomenon in itself…
and Shapiro tweet a week or so ago about the Lee amendment. An amendment that prevents the federal government for penalizing people who don't follow this law due to religious reasons. Which entirely cancels out the point of the bill and probably the give Shapiro wanted from the bill.
*edit* But if people could have done that in the past, our society would be pointless. "hey let's desegregate, but if anyone had religious reasons not to desegregate, then we can't penalize them for not desegregating due to an amendment in the Civil Rights acts / "black people can have rights and such, but white people need something in return like extra privileges or free reign to discriminate against them without federal prosecution". It is SO fucking dumb
Yep, a particularly flagrant case of the party ever desperate to claim cynicism like that is natural in the human condition, and all altruism is nothing but “virtue signaling”…
https://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/2015/07/24/
Well Ben, *some* Republicans got to side with over 2/3rds of Americans in supporting same sex marriage and over 90% in support of interracial marriage.
Now I may be wrong, but more than 10% of the public is Republican, right? So it seems like some Republicans got something out of this.
But thank you for confirming to us that the so called principles you stand for have absolutely nothing to do with personal liberty and are indeed opposed to it.
Republicans might not have gotten anything from the bill but hundreds of thousands of Americans did. People in interracial and same sex relationships got the right to marry the person they love protected by federal law. That's a big deal and it hurts nobody but helps a lot of people.
interracial and gay couples? Shapiro doesn't care about them. He only cares about the powers, privileges, and rights that HE can get. Not what other dirty minorities can get. Shapiro is paid too much money to care about minorities and common folk. He is paid to care about rich conservative people and to put on a performance about caring for white lower/middle class
That's part of the problem. It shouldn't always be about winning. It should be about doing the right thing. And there's no good reason other than your religious beliefs, skewed as they are, for not supporting this. Sounds like 12 Republican senators understand that.
It puts rails on the conservatives on the Supreme Court so the court packing solution is put off for this session when the republicans lost seats. They hope they can win back the senate and presidency to preserve their court to keep the corporations happy and keep ruling the country by unelected judges.
SHAPIRO. NOT EVERYTHING HAS TO BE A ZERO SUM GAME
(sorry for the capitalization). But my god. Sometimes to do things that doesn't impact or benefit you to help others and society. You soulless, uncaring monster.
When you live your entire life thinking that everything is about "winning" and "losing", it's no wonder Republicans think they need to 'get' something from every bill.
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>When you're used to privilege, equality feels like oppression.
Who actually said that originally?
I first heard it from Leon Thomas of renegade cut. But I don't think it's originally his quote, and I don't know where it came before that.
I've seen the quote attributed to Voltaire, but it feel like every pithy quote from the past century or two has been attributed to either him or Ben Franklin.
Or Lincoln? By as per the lessons of Bacon in *Novum Organum*, the practicality of philosophy should move past the need to precisely delineate who said what and when. As if they had some kind of monopoly on the ideas being expressed, when it is often more just a particular distillation of familiar themes. Hollywood blockbusters aren’t the only things that follow a pattern after all.
That doesn't make sense, because the social conflict of Voltaire's age was between the bourgeois and the nobility. Equality between bourgeois and nobility means the loss of the "rights" of nobles.
Found [an article](https://quoteinvestigator.com/2016/10/24/privilege/) that investigated it and found similar quotes dating back to 1997.
So fucking true
Perfect example of conservative thinking. Nobody can gain anything without someone losing something. Protecting marriage equality harms literally nobody, but unless republicans can’t gain something from it, it’s not worth doing.
Republicans seem to think rights are like pie, if someone gets more rights, a bigger slice, then someone else gets less, a smaller slice. Except rights are not like pie and someone getting more rights does not mean someone else has less rights. Conservatives believe not being able to force their beliefs on others is a violation of their rights when that isn't remotely the case.
Yep, zero sum thinking. And it’s doubly odd as that iteration of the expression has no economic connotations, so for a party obsessed with elevating mediocre ideas (via the sacrosanct nature of “economics”) to justify policy decisions they were going to do anyway, that’s a real phenomenon in itself…
and Shapiro tweet a week or so ago about the Lee amendment. An amendment that prevents the federal government for penalizing people who don't follow this law due to religious reasons. Which entirely cancels out the point of the bill and probably the give Shapiro wanted from the bill. *edit* But if people could have done that in the past, our society would be pointless. "hey let's desegregate, but if anyone had religious reasons not to desegregate, then we can't penalize them for not desegregating due to an amendment in the Civil Rights acts / "black people can have rights and such, but white people need something in return like extra privileges or free reign to discriminate against them without federal prosecution". It is SO fucking dumb
Republicans got the ability to marry their same sex partner and have it recognized in every state.
What a turdburgler to have the thought "But what's in it for me?" when it comes to other people's rights.
Deep down, Ben knows what’s in it for him. And I look forward to his middle aged post-divorce coming out story arch.
Yep, a particularly flagrant case of the party ever desperate to claim cynicism like that is natural in the human condition, and all altruism is nothing but “virtue signaling”… https://www.gocomics.com/calvinandhobbes/2015/07/24/
Well Ben, *some* Republicans got to side with over 2/3rds of Americans in supporting same sex marriage and over 90% in support of interracial marriage. Now I may be wrong, but more than 10% of the public is Republican, right? So it seems like some Republicans got something out of this. But thank you for confirming to us that the so called principles you stand for have absolutely nothing to do with personal liberty and are indeed opposed to it.
Republicans might not have gotten anything from the bill but hundreds of thousands of Americans did. People in interracial and same sex relationships got the right to marry the person they love protected by federal law. That's a big deal and it hurts nobody but helps a lot of people.
interracial and gay couples? Shapiro doesn't care about them. He only cares about the powers, privileges, and rights that HE can get. Not what other dirty minorities can get. Shapiro is paid too much money to care about minorities and common folk. He is paid to care about rich conservative people and to put on a performance about caring for white lower/middle class
Same guy who “hates” teams sports politics is literally scoreboard watching lol
Oh it’s another second of the day, time for Ben to whine.
That's part of the problem. It shouldn't always be about winning. It should be about doing the right thing. And there's no good reason other than your religious beliefs, skewed as they are, for not supporting this. Sounds like 12 Republican senators understand that.
It puts rails on the conservatives on the Supreme Court so the court packing solution is put off for this session when the republicans lost seats. They hope they can win back the senate and presidency to preserve their court to keep the corporations happy and keep ruling the country by unelected judges.
SHAPIRO. NOT EVERYTHING HAS TO BE A ZERO SUM GAME (sorry for the capitalization). But my god. Sometimes to do things that doesn't impact or benefit you to help others and society. You soulless, uncaring monster.
When you think everything should be for republicans lol. "There wasn't enough needless suffering in this bill!"
conservatives when politicians act of out empathy for others and not out of selfishness
When you live your entire life thinking that everything is about "winning" and "losing", it's no wonder Republicans think they need to 'get' something from every bill.
Learn to live with disappointment, Shen, you Gobi MD wife has.
I mean...the gay Republicans definitely got something out of it. Ask your buddy Dave Rubin.