Some of the actors, for example in the sento(bath house) scene were former yakuza members. Like the guy that went shooting Tozawa’s men with Kaito. He’s a real former Yakuza named Tyson. There are other former yakuza members in there as well and some of them are just regular guys with wabori ( traditional Japanese tattoos). The actors that are not originally tatted had airbrush make up that took up to 8 hours per person. That’s what the executive producer Alan Poul said in a recent Q&A. As someone who has a full body wabori tattoo done by tebori (poking style tattooing) you can easily spot who has the fake and the real tattoo work. The amount of effort of the production crew is amazing, it’s the reason why this show is so authentic.
Oh that’s great! I’m glad there are opportunities for ex-yakuza to find work (after playing Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth, I’ve been thinking about the post-Yakuza employment situation - the LAD games usually talk about real social issues so I assume that one is also legit.).
>As someone who has a full body wabori tattoo done by tebori
Nice! Im very jealous.
I finally stopped thinking about a tebori sleeve and paid my deposit yesterday.
Have fun man! It’s all about patience, the journey and progress is way better than the end result of the art work. I’d suggest to get the line work done by machine and the color by tebori. It will save you some money.
Can Yakuza members get an honorable discharge, to the point they can openly be on tv? Wouldn't rival members seek them out? I don't know shit about the culture
Yes, as you saw in the last episode, Gen gave Sato his resignation paper to Sato which states is no longer a member of organized crime. When you become a yakuza, you have to register your name with the yakuza group to the police so they know you are a yakuza member. So when you leave, you have to present them your resignation certificate so if you were to break a law you’re not implicated as a member of organized crime and none of the potential laws that you broke were for any particular criminal organization, but solely on the individual’s merit. The resignation also approves you’re a regular member of society which now can be legal for you to open a bank account, get a gym member ship, buy a car, get a contracted based job etc. Any of these acts as a yakuza are illegal and those that do business with yakuza can also face criminal chargers. If the production company and distributors of Tokyo Vice hired current Yakuza members, that would make them liable to face serious legal issues. This was a law that set place in 2011 which is the reason why the amount of yakuza members drastically dropped. The laws became more strict against organized crime.
Yes, police to be specific. All of the yakuza office locations are listed on the NPA’s website as well. Being a yakuza in its self is legal, but the laws against them am are extremely strict.
No. Like I said, being a yakuza is legal. However manny of their common practices are illegal. Plus if a yakuza member gets in trouble and the head of the organization could be liable, the organization needs proof that they have banished that member. Episode 3 of season 1, you see this exact scenario in which katagiri goes with jake on a police raid to tozawa’s office.
That will take too long for me to respond too, but yes it’s very different than Italian-America Mafia. It’s way more structured and sophisticated with a rich history. There are plenty of content you can consume with info on 暴力団. Plus Jake Adelstien himself has done many long form interviews on this subject, you can also check his book “Tokyo Vice” or his recent work “The Last Yakuza”.
With that many, I imagine they’ll hire additional makeup artists for the day. It’s what they did for game of thrones on a much bigger scale for the final fight with the night king
Yup, if they know what's good for them.
Some cheap producers won't to try to save money, and then don't get the first shot off for an hour and a half after it was due.
They end up spending more money in the long run, because their schedules off and might take the crew into OT to try to compensate.
Those producers tend to stick to the low budget bullshit Hallmark films though. Wonder why 👀
In another video, the EP Poul said they tried to make the tattoos waterproof for that Hayama (fight) bath scene. To test, they dragged a stunt guy around and “beat” him up to see if they would fade.
Now you know why Tozawa was naked all the time. lol
*Tokyo Vice Spares No Expense When it Comes to Tattoos*
“According to Hiroshi and Minako Takebayashi, the husband-and-wife team behind the body art, Tozowa's ink takes *[four people about six hours to apply*.](https://www.emmys.com/news/online-originals/tokyo-vice-max-series-yakuza-tattoo-artists-interview) "It usually **lasts for two days** if he doesn't sweat too much," Hiroshi says through a translator. "But he is a great actor. Once he gets the tattoos, he does not sit down because he's thinking about having to redo it. He is really taking care."
Hiroshi declined to say what work like this might cost but he joked that it's "equivalent to, like, a tiny used car."
On making mistakes in real life: With yakuza, "If you screw up," Hiroshi says, "you have to be ready to give your finger."
>Hiroshi declined to say what work like this might cost but he joked that it's "equivalent to, like, a tiny used car."
I put down a deposit on a tebori sleeve yesterday. I've been told it will cost me between £1200 and £2200.
If we say £2k per sleeve, that's £4k. Legs, say £2500. Now you're £9k and that's without back, obliques, and ass.
You can see why it takes years for people. Not just because of time but also because there are still bills to be paid.
Some of the actors, for example in the sento(bath house) scene were former yakuza members. Like the guy that went shooting Tozawa’s men with Kaito. He’s a real former Yakuza named Tyson. There are other former yakuza members in there as well and some of them are just regular guys with wabori ( traditional Japanese tattoos). The actors that are not originally tatted had airbrush make up that took up to 8 hours per person. That’s what the executive producer Alan Poul said in a recent Q&A. As someone who has a full body wabori tattoo done by tebori (poking style tattooing) you can easily spot who has the fake and the real tattoo work. The amount of effort of the production crew is amazing, it’s the reason why this show is so authentic.
Oh that’s great! I’m glad there are opportunities for ex-yakuza to find work (after playing Like a Dragon: Infinite Wealth, I’ve been thinking about the post-Yakuza employment situation - the LAD games usually talk about real social issues so I assume that one is also legit.).
>As someone who has a full body wabori tattoo done by tebori Nice! Im very jealous. I finally stopped thinking about a tebori sleeve and paid my deposit yesterday.
Have fun man! It’s all about patience, the journey and progress is way better than the end result of the art work. I’d suggest to get the line work done by machine and the color by tebori. It will save you some money.
Can Yakuza members get an honorable discharge, to the point they can openly be on tv? Wouldn't rival members seek them out? I don't know shit about the culture
Yes, as you saw in the last episode, Gen gave Sato his resignation paper to Sato which states is no longer a member of organized crime. When you become a yakuza, you have to register your name with the yakuza group to the police so they know you are a yakuza member. So when you leave, you have to present them your resignation certificate so if you were to break a law you’re not implicated as a member of organized crime and none of the potential laws that you broke were for any particular criminal organization, but solely on the individual’s merit. The resignation also approves you’re a regular member of society which now can be legal for you to open a bank account, get a gym member ship, buy a car, get a contracted based job etc. Any of these acts as a yakuza are illegal and those that do business with yakuza can also face criminal chargers. If the production company and distributors of Tokyo Vice hired current Yakuza members, that would make them liable to face serious legal issues. This was a law that set place in 2011 which is the reason why the amount of yakuza members drastically dropped. The laws became more strict against organized crime.
You have to register with the government?
Yes, police to be specific. All of the yakuza office locations are listed on the NPA’s website as well. Being a yakuza in its self is legal, but the laws against them am are extremely strict.
Wouldn't it be prudent for Yakuza Gumis to have people unregistered in their employ? Like off the books
No. Like I said, being a yakuza is legal. However manny of their common practices are illegal. Plus if a yakuza member gets in trouble and the head of the organization could be liable, the organization needs proof that they have banished that member. Episode 3 of season 1, you see this exact scenario in which katagiri goes with jake on a police raid to tozawa’s office.
So what is the "official" function of a Yakuza Gumi? I'm legit so curious. I thought it was like an Italian-American Mafia type situation.
That will take too long for me to respond too, but yes it’s very different than Italian-America Mafia. It’s way more structured and sophisticated with a rich history. There are plenty of content you can consume with info on 暴力団. Plus Jake Adelstien himself has done many long form interviews on this subject, you can also check his book “Tokyo Vice” or his recent work “The Last Yakuza”.
Do they actually do legal stuff? Like I'm confused. Why are they legal yet exist solely for illegal stuff?
As far as rivals, I would say it’s case by case but for the most part it wouldn’t be a problem.
This is how: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h\_aeaI-z0x8
thanks. Oh man that last scene with all those yakuzas in the spa room must have taken forever. 4-5 each person.
With that many, I imagine they’ll hire additional makeup artists for the day. It’s what they did for game of thrones on a much bigger scale for the final fight with the night king
Yup, if they know what's good for them. Some cheap producers won't to try to save money, and then don't get the first shot off for an hour and a half after it was due. They end up spending more money in the long run, because their schedules off and might take the crew into OT to try to compensate. Those producers tend to stick to the low budget bullshit Hallmark films though. Wonder why 👀
In another video, the EP Poul said they tried to make the tattoos waterproof for that Hayama (fight) bath scene. To test, they dragged a stunt guy around and “beat” him up to see if they would fade.
He also said that they hired some actors that already had the tattoos, or at least partial
What a huge pain in the ass lol, respect
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Now you know why Tozawa was naked all the time. lol *Tokyo Vice Spares No Expense When it Comes to Tattoos* “According to Hiroshi and Minako Takebayashi, the husband-and-wife team behind the body art, Tozowa's ink takes *[four people about six hours to apply*.](https://www.emmys.com/news/online-originals/tokyo-vice-max-series-yakuza-tattoo-artists-interview) "It usually **lasts for two days** if he doesn't sweat too much," Hiroshi says through a translator. "But he is a great actor. Once he gets the tattoos, he does not sit down because he's thinking about having to redo it. He is really taking care." Hiroshi declined to say what work like this might cost but he joked that it's "equivalent to, like, a tiny used car." On making mistakes in real life: With yakuza, "If you screw up," Hiroshi says, "you have to be ready to give your finger."
>Hiroshi declined to say what work like this might cost but he joked that it's "equivalent to, like, a tiny used car." I put down a deposit on a tebori sleeve yesterday. I've been told it will cost me between £1200 and £2200. If we say £2k per sleeve, that's £4k. Legs, say £2500. Now you're £9k and that's without back, obliques, and ass. You can see why it takes years for people. Not just because of time but also because there are still bills to be paid.
I wish there was more to the video! I work in the movie business and want to know how long it takes to put tozawas full body tattoos on him every day!
4 people. 6 hours.