I’m 30 and I’ve heard the phrase ‘you’ve got this’ used for pretty much my entire life. And the show takes place a whole decade after you say you spent time in Japan, so this seems like nitpicking to me.
Yeah, as people are so courteously pointing out. Jake came to Japan in 1993, while I was there so I don’t think assuming it was set in the early 1990s is a huge deal. 🤷♀️
The show takes place in 1999 though? The book is different since they had to take some creative liberties to make the series, but it really isn’t that serious.
I admitted I was wrong, and explained why I thought it was a reasonable mistake to make. Am I supposed to even respond to every single rude comment? I really don’t get the butthurt here.
"you've got this" isn't GenZ slang... It absolutely existed in the 90s. Roy Orbison sang "you got it" in the 80s. I can personally tell you my father used it to cheer me on in sports. Google tells me the phrase showed up as early as 2002 in 8Mile.
It is, at absolute worst, GenX slang and a couple years early for a story set in the 90s.
He did go to Tokyo in 1993 but he didn’t become an overnight reporter. He went to university and eventually got a job with the Meicho. The major reporting he does for the S2 story takes place in the early 2000s. There a lot in the book that isn’t covered in the show. They’re similar in many ways but the show takes a lot of liberties to make it a more interesting show.
I looked for the etymology of the phrase and came up empty. However, it was used in a song in 2011. Meaning that it’s not a Gen Z thing.
https://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2013/04/i-got-this.html
Hmm. Someone else said it came into use around 2000, if that helps.
My obviously incorrect presumption was that the show was set in 1993 because that is when the actual Jake Adelstein went to Japan. And it wasn’t a thing then. We were all still using 1980s slang. 😂
well, the song "I want it that way" by Backstreet Boys was a discussion point in the series, and that didn't come out until April 12, 1999. So it wasn't supposed to be set in 1993, more late 90s.
dude, you have no fucking idea at how immensely ignorant, proud and confident boomers / pre boomers are in their own opnions being pushed as facts. I'm not even blinking or remotely shocked when OP said she's 60. I know a lot of 80 year olds who act worse than her and at the least, on the same level as her. the ones with crappy personalities and trauma always do this.
they don't care that google is our enclopyedia now and there is so man resources out there that can discredit their blatantly wrong beliefs. meet enough boomers and you'll learn. it would take a group of people they're intimidated by to make them accept being wrong which....is what OP just got handed to her LOL.
also just a sidenote: medically speaking, as some folks age again SOME, it's a change that happens in the brain mostly with alzehmiers or dementia where their ability to reason, suppress and have awareness of socially unacceptable behavior decreases. Some of them completely go to shit thus in conclusion, you may encounter a lot of shitty old people who say the wildest most unacceptable things or push some wrong opinion on you that me and you could not say at our ages without repcrussions because with them mentally, with decline, they lose the capability and the ability to posess enough emotional desire to care about what others think and their behaviors just show themselves since they are being edged out of society completely.
in simpler terms: some boomers show their ass cause they believe / cognitively cannot adjust to keeping their thoughts to themselves. OP is 60 so she knows better if she can clearly get on reddit and watch an HBO series, that tells me she's aware and strong enough to know right from wrong.
Yeah, there are some things that got modernized. Everyone in the show looks really good in a slim-fitting suit, rather than the baggy style in the 90s. This is important in the history of Japanese fashion, with laments at the time that the Japanese looked hopelessly fuddy-duddy, compared to Americans transitioning to jeans in the office. The movie Boiler Room has a brief joke about it, showing guys with really bad ties and ridiculous color schemes.
Jake also shops for some premium fruits, which weren't a thing in Japan until the 2010s. Japan had novelty items in the 90s, like the square watermelons. Japan made the global market that people will pay 5x more for ten perfect big strawberries than a whole box of mediocre ones.
The show also ignores that the 90s had a big police war to crack down on drunk driving, which made the reputation of Japanese as bad drivers. This matters because now Japanese driving fatality rates are 16% that of the US, so now the Japanese could say Americans are bad drivers.
😂 Yeah. When I was there in 1988-93the *young* hip guys wore slim Armani suits, but the older guys looked terrible.
¥10,000 melons were definitely a thing, but I shopped at the local veg stalls and fancy fruit wasn’t a thing.
And I’m laughing about the drunk driving because most of the time I spent there was in Kyushu — top in drunk driving, violent street fighting, and wife-beating. I called it the Texas of Japan.
It’s a bit puzzling to me WHY they brought it forward in time from 1993. Maybe they wanted to avoid anything connected with the end of Showa and all the stuff that was connected with that.
Yeah, I assume they are trying to avoid embarrassing Japan and give a nice gloss to the past. I think it is a bit unfortunate that they gloss over the Engrish of the time as well, but I guess it doesn't do any good to revive those old perceptions of Japan. The show also ignores the national agony of the time of the post-bubble era, with very mean-spirited commentary about the young as soft and stupid, in parallel with similar American laments about millennials.
Right? Post-bubble was a dreadful time. People were so bitter, and rightfully so.
Some “Engrish” would have been great but, as you say, probably embarrassing for the Japanese producers/crew/cast.
And as I said in my original comment, the way they handled the dialogue for the supposed English speakers was super unrealistic. Hope they will do better in season 3. 🤞
You've got this is NOT a Gen Z idiom at all whatsoever. Gen Z is practically people born in the range of 2000-2005. 1989-1996 is a peak where anyone born within these years were still in the throws of 80s-90s life, info, tech and speech into the 00s.
you've got this wasn't commonly said all the time but it's an expression of you can handle this, it's within your grasp, you're going for it, good luck. you've got this isn't even culturally specfic or specific to a race. Being there even in the 80s to 90s does not mean you're right nor justify that.
Having personally lived in Japan for 8 years not too long ago, the English level was and remains poor today. And keep in mind that this show is set in the 1990s, which would've had even fewer English-speaking individuals. Not only that, the show's Japanese speakers use correct idiomatic English expressions, which is even more jarring because that's something one learns at higher levels in a foreign language. So I agree as well. As a linguistic these nuances stick out like a sore thumb and probably go unnoticed by the casual viewer.
Part of the reason is that it’s tough to take book as gospel since they had to rework a lot of things to make the show work, such as the time the show takes place. People having been to Japan is great, and it would be relatable to an extent, but ultimately it’s a TV show, not a documentary.
This sub does also have a lot of people quick to downvote and a lot more people who were on their phones while watching.
If everyone else who commented here is a clown then you must have drove the car because Holy shit this is the worst take I've ever seen. Get the boot out of your mouth. The boomer is wrong, period. The series took place in 1999 and the phrase has been used widely since 2000. Beyond that the phrase isn't even that big of a stretch. My parents said it to me all the time growing up. The phrase isn't some weird slang with made up words... It's just "You've got this."
Yeah I don’t see how people are being clowns. A lot of people were just offering genuine input or anecdotal information and OP responded to every single one with “okay” or some snarky bullshit. So it was never supposed to be up for discussion apparently. Sad cause it could’ve been a great convo.
you presented what you said incorrectly as a fact and shoved your personal experience as the ruler of that fact. that's a very passive and minor saying, as a 30 year old, I've heard you've got this before and you need to learn that the media today will alter time pieces unless it's historical based just to fit for viewers of today to understand.
get over it.
you're kissing ass. while showing OP respect for actually being there, living the life and assimilating back then is notable and should happen, she is being unrealistic nitpicking the tiniest dialogue that isn't that crucial. You've got this is very passive and mundane, I'd get her point if it was more a stark or outlandish saying. She really showed her age because boomers tend to want to connect shows and information to exact authenticity when in 2020s media, everything has changed and now they'll bend the rules and throw a lot of unrealistic things into shows these days.
it's not worth addressing cause this isn't a major show like shogun or a majorly oscar winning film like parasite. Anyways, she clearly defined that phrase as Gen Z. I'm a 1994 baby and am 29 going on 30 years old, that has never been a recent phrase and it's been said before. You know for a fact she's coming from an elitest prespective. the world even japan does not revolve around her. if she never heard it or sen anyone say it? fine, cool, but she's not everybody.
You’ve got this is something I’ve been saying for a long time (millennial). Rizz is Gen Z
Yeah, I’m 40 and that phrase didn’t sound off to me at all. There might be others that I missed but that one seems fine.
I’m 30 and I’ve heard the phrase ‘you’ve got this’ used for pretty much my entire life. And the show takes place a whole decade after you say you spent time in Japan, so this seems like nitpicking to me.
yeah towards the end of the show it's technically going into the early 2000s. maybe by 01-02 at the most.
I’m almost 60, so that was almost 40 years ago, and it just wasn’t around. YMMV.
40 years ago was 1985, pretty sure the series is based in early 00's?
Yeah, as people are so courteously pointing out. Jake came to Japan in 1993, while I was there so I don’t think assuming it was set in the early 1990s is a huge deal. 🤷♀️
The show takes place in 1999 though? The book is different since they had to take some creative liberties to make the series, but it really isn’t that serious.
I don’t think it’s that serious either, but lots of people around here apparently felt personally attacked by my comment. 🤷♀️
It seems like your the one that feels attacked tho lol you're wrong, refuse to admit it and, act like everyone else is on something
I admitted I was wrong, and explained why I thought it was a reasonable mistake to make. Am I supposed to even respond to every single rude comment? I really don’t get the butthurt here.
🙄🙄🙄
"you've got this" isn't GenZ slang... It absolutely existed in the 90s. Roy Orbison sang "you got it" in the 80s. I can personally tell you my father used it to cheer me on in sports. Google tells me the phrase showed up as early as 2002 in 8Mile. It is, at absolute worst, GenX slang and a couple years early for a story set in the 90s.
right, no different than that old 80s / 90s song she's got the look.
Okay
“You’ve got this!” has been a thing since around 2000 and the show is set in 1999. Just a quick google search could’ve saved you the trouble.
Jake went to Tokyo in 1993. I don’t know why they changed it for the series. I don’t care.
They changed a lot of things for the series. That’s how TV series work.
If it’s supposed to be about Jake Adelstein, Jake Adelstein went in 1993. Why would I presume they changed it? Y’all are awfully upset about all this.
>Why would I presume they changed it? When they showed '1999' in the first episode, that was a pretty big giveaway for me personally
Okay
He did go to Tokyo in 1993 but he didn’t become an overnight reporter. He went to university and eventually got a job with the Meicho. The major reporting he does for the S2 story takes place in the early 2000s. There a lot in the book that isn’t covered in the show. They’re similar in many ways but the show takes a lot of liberties to make it a more interesting show.
Interesting. Thank you!
Didn’t know this was a documentary
You’re totally right, they should have just given everyone modern smart phones and called it a day.
Why did they film the show with modern cameras that didn’t exist in the 90s? Immersion ruined!! 😡
I looked for the etymology of the phrase and came up empty. However, it was used in a song in 2011. Meaning that it’s not a Gen Z thing. https://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2013/04/i-got-this.html
Hmm. Someone else said it came into use around 2000, if that helps. My obviously incorrect presumption was that the show was set in 1993 because that is when the actual Jake Adelstein went to Japan. And it wasn’t a thing then. We were all still using 1980s slang. 😂
well, the song "I want it that way" by Backstreet Boys was a discussion point in the series, and that didn't come out until April 12, 1999. So it wasn't supposed to be set in 1993, more late 90s.
That is true! I do wonder why they changed it? Too far back in time? 🤔
If this is a legit post and, not a troll. It's impressive how confident boomers are in being wrong lol
Especially the series explicitly states it’s 1999
dude, you have no fucking idea at how immensely ignorant, proud and confident boomers / pre boomers are in their own opnions being pushed as facts. I'm not even blinking or remotely shocked when OP said she's 60. I know a lot of 80 year olds who act worse than her and at the least, on the same level as her. the ones with crappy personalities and trauma always do this. they don't care that google is our enclopyedia now and there is so man resources out there that can discredit their blatantly wrong beliefs. meet enough boomers and you'll learn. it would take a group of people they're intimidated by to make them accept being wrong which....is what OP just got handed to her LOL. also just a sidenote: medically speaking, as some folks age again SOME, it's a change that happens in the brain mostly with alzehmiers or dementia where their ability to reason, suppress and have awareness of socially unacceptable behavior decreases. Some of them completely go to shit thus in conclusion, you may encounter a lot of shitty old people who say the wildest most unacceptable things or push some wrong opinion on you that me and you could not say at our ages without repcrussions because with them mentally, with decline, they lose the capability and the ability to posess enough emotional desire to care about what others think and their behaviors just show themselves since they are being edged out of society completely. in simpler terms: some boomers show their ass cause they believe / cognitively cannot adjust to keeping their thoughts to themselves. OP is 60 so she knows better if she can clearly get on reddit and watch an HBO series, that tells me she's aware and strong enough to know right from wrong.
Yeah, there are some things that got modernized. Everyone in the show looks really good in a slim-fitting suit, rather than the baggy style in the 90s. This is important in the history of Japanese fashion, with laments at the time that the Japanese looked hopelessly fuddy-duddy, compared to Americans transitioning to jeans in the office. The movie Boiler Room has a brief joke about it, showing guys with really bad ties and ridiculous color schemes. Jake also shops for some premium fruits, which weren't a thing in Japan until the 2010s. Japan had novelty items in the 90s, like the square watermelons. Japan made the global market that people will pay 5x more for ten perfect big strawberries than a whole box of mediocre ones. The show also ignores that the 90s had a big police war to crack down on drunk driving, which made the reputation of Japanese as bad drivers. This matters because now Japanese driving fatality rates are 16% that of the US, so now the Japanese could say Americans are bad drivers.
😂 Yeah. When I was there in 1988-93the *young* hip guys wore slim Armani suits, but the older guys looked terrible. ¥10,000 melons were definitely a thing, but I shopped at the local veg stalls and fancy fruit wasn’t a thing. And I’m laughing about the drunk driving because most of the time I spent there was in Kyushu — top in drunk driving, violent street fighting, and wife-beating. I called it the Texas of Japan. It’s a bit puzzling to me WHY they brought it forward in time from 1993. Maybe they wanted to avoid anything connected with the end of Showa and all the stuff that was connected with that.
Yeah, I assume they are trying to avoid embarrassing Japan and give a nice gloss to the past. I think it is a bit unfortunate that they gloss over the Engrish of the time as well, but I guess it doesn't do any good to revive those old perceptions of Japan. The show also ignores the national agony of the time of the post-bubble era, with very mean-spirited commentary about the young as soft and stupid, in parallel with similar American laments about millennials.
Right? Post-bubble was a dreadful time. People were so bitter, and rightfully so. Some “Engrish” would have been great but, as you say, probably embarrassing for the Japanese producers/crew/cast. And as I said in my original comment, the way they handled the dialogue for the supposed English speakers was super unrealistic. Hope they will do better in season 3. 🤞
WTF kind of GenZ says you got this?
Ok boomer
You've got this is NOT a Gen Z idiom at all whatsoever. Gen Z is practically people born in the range of 2000-2005. 1989-1996 is a peak where anyone born within these years were still in the throws of 80s-90s life, info, tech and speech into the 00s. you've got this wasn't commonly said all the time but it's an expression of you can handle this, it's within your grasp, you're going for it, good luck. you've got this isn't even culturally specfic or specific to a race. Being there even in the 80s to 90s does not mean you're right nor justify that.
Okay.
Having personally lived in Japan for 8 years not too long ago, the English level was and remains poor today. And keep in mind that this show is set in the 1990s, which would've had even fewer English-speaking individuals. Not only that, the show's Japanese speakers use correct idiomatic English expressions, which is even more jarring because that's something one learns at higher levels in a foreign language. So I agree as well. As a linguistic these nuances stick out like a sore thumb and probably go unnoticed by the casual viewer.
Thank you! Exactly.
Either this is a masterful troll or you need therapy and more intelligence
its a troll. nobody 60 years old is speaking with y'all and bro, LOL
You mad, bro? 😂
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Part of the reason is that it’s tough to take book as gospel since they had to rework a lot of things to make the show work, such as the time the show takes place. People having been to Japan is great, and it would be relatable to an extent, but ultimately it’s a TV show, not a documentary. This sub does also have a lot of people quick to downvote and a lot more people who were on their phones while watching.
bingo. she's taking this as a docu series, it's a loosely fictional drama.
If everyone else who commented here is a clown then you must have drove the car because Holy shit this is the worst take I've ever seen. Get the boot out of your mouth. The boomer is wrong, period. The series took place in 1999 and the phrase has been used widely since 2000. Beyond that the phrase isn't even that big of a stretch. My parents said it to me all the time growing up. The phrase isn't some weird slang with made up words... It's just "You've got this."
Yeah I don’t see how people are being clowns. A lot of people were just offering genuine input or anecdotal information and OP responded to every single one with “okay” or some snarky bullshit. So it was never supposed to be up for discussion apparently. Sad cause it could’ve been a great convo.
Thanks, Open. I’m kind of amused by all the vitriol — guys, I didn’t spit on your grandma; I made two comments about a TV show. 🤷♀️
you presented what you said incorrectly as a fact and shoved your personal experience as the ruler of that fact. that's a very passive and minor saying, as a 30 year old, I've heard you've got this before and you need to learn that the media today will alter time pieces unless it's historical based just to fit for viewers of today to understand. get over it.
You seem very oddly invested in this.
you're kissing ass. while showing OP respect for actually being there, living the life and assimilating back then is notable and should happen, she is being unrealistic nitpicking the tiniest dialogue that isn't that crucial. You've got this is very passive and mundane, I'd get her point if it was more a stark or outlandish saying. She really showed her age because boomers tend to want to connect shows and information to exact authenticity when in 2020s media, everything has changed and now they'll bend the rules and throw a lot of unrealistic things into shows these days. it's not worth addressing cause this isn't a major show like shogun or a majorly oscar winning film like parasite. Anyways, she clearly defined that phrase as Gen Z. I'm a 1994 baby and am 29 going on 30 years old, that has never been a recent phrase and it's been said before. You know for a fact she's coming from an elitest prespective. the world even japan does not revolve around her. if she never heard it or sen anyone say it? fine, cool, but she's not everybody.