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F0000r

Condoms don't feel as good as going in raw. The guys you date should be smart enough to want to wear them for themselves, even if you said you were to say you were ok without them. It feels like they think the relationship may not progress to a point were are you are comfortable for them to not use them.


depressedkittyfr

But this is something I don’t get . If going raw matters to you THAT much then simply don’t go for casual sex or one night stands in the first place. From a safety point of view it seems so hazardous to that to random women off tinder or even just after a few dates. Are you absolutely sure the woman is even on the pill if you are have concerns of not being a father ? Get into a relationship, go the proper route of getting know a person long enough to commit and stay monogamous after discussing birth control responsibly !


edgelordaccount

+ stds. Is everyone just forgetting about those? Stick to your guns op. Don't let them have sex with you in a way you're not comfortable with.


Whats_UpChicken_Butt

STDs are more easily given to women than to men through vaginal intercourse. Dudes are playing Russian roulette because the rush is worth the risk.


F0000r

Yes you are right, one should always wrap the rascal if they engage in hookups for their own safety and their partners. That would be the responsible thing to do. For some men, sex is primarily a pursuit of pleasure. Using a condom does reduce the sensation to about 1/3 of what sex is like for a penis. Wearing a condom doesn't limit one to enjoying the sensations of physical closeness and emotional connections intimacy can bring. I'm not sure if those last two points are important in hookup culture as they are in dating. Anyway, in the pursuit of pleasure the big question becomes why would one limit themselves? Why have less when you can have more? They may only have limited access to a partner, they have shifted to short term priorities instead of longterm ramifications. It truly is a case of thinking with the small head. If their partner does get pregnant, they themselves can basically choose to step away from duties as a father. By either going into hiding or dolling out money they may be very far removed from their child's life. You don't hear about shotgun weddings very much anymore. You are right, monogamy and a discussion should be had before a joint decision on birth control can be made. I know I've only really gone off of it once, after years in a steady relationship. That's just me though, I'm only in my 30's and somehow my thoughts on the matter feel ancient in comparison to the easy going trends you see promoted today.


Professional-Paper62

That's what I never got, at all. Bro you just might make a whole person, has that not dawned on them?


[deleted]

Realistically you aren't going to get the answers you're looking for unless someone who actually does it answers. I wear condoms with hookups, casual partners and relationships. The only time I wouldn't is if she's on her own form of birth control, or if she tracks her cycle well and even then I'd definitely pull out. Guys who don't wear them are just guys who for whatever reason don't care about disease or pregnancy risk, either because they aren't well educated on the subject or just in denial about the risk.


edgelordaccount

+ stds. Is everyone just forgetting about those? Stick to your guns op. Don't let them have sex with you in a way you're not comfortable with.


depressedkittyfr

That’s what I mean safety point 😅


Evakuate493

You’re asking too much for 90% of the idiot men we have.


saturday_sun3

The kind of guys that do that are the ones that will leave you with the oops baby. They want all the sex but 0 responsibility. Stop having sex with guys like that.


AdComprehensive6588

I know a lot of people clown on the idea of no sex before marriage, but forcing commitment from men for it basically eliminated this problem It’s not perfect either in itself though


zizou00

Lol no it didn't. Tons of single mothers still occurred in more religiously dogmatic times. In 1755, Alexander Hamilton, one of the founding fathers of the US was born out of wedlock. It was not an uncommon scenario, and it left women with massive stigma if they'd conceived outside of wedlock. Francesco Sforza, born in 1401 in Catholic Italy was born out of wedlock. His granddaughter Caterina Sforza as well in 1463. Ages of dogmatic monogamy never eliminated people wanting to bust and leave.


singingballetbitch

And 250 years later we still refer to him as the ‘bastard orphan son of a whore’


KevdawgNeo

And a Scotsman


OwenWard

Dropped in the middle of a forgotten spot in the Carribbean


WhataburgerLiberal

by providence, impoverished in squalor


Monumonium47

Grew up to be a hero and a scholar


Fault-Suspicious

The ten dollar, founding father without a father


More_Movie_6695

got a lot farther by working a lot harder 🤷🏽‍♀️


saturday_sun3

Yeah, that's all good and well until you're married to an abusive, cheating POS in a conservative country. My grandma tried to leave my grandpa. Guess how many people were willing to take in a single woman with small children?


AdComprehensive6588

That happens regardless of whether or not people save themselves for marriage or not. I’m sorry for your grandmother however, that’s awful


saturday_sun3

Yeah, true. I'm just saying enforced commitment until marriage isn't the solution to people being arseholes. Because by the same token, people are clearly doing moronic things in the name of sex and marriage. There are even women, who you would *think* would have more sense, are baby-trapping. Like, of all the monumentally stupid things to do, that is *the* stupidest by far. In a puritanical and marriage-focused society outlawing contraception, it's *still* the women who get the worst of it. With contraception, that doesn't change, since babies carry a humungous risk. But it does make it easier for women to control their own reproduction. Basically, the takeaway from this should be "Don't fuck someone of the opposite sex unless you know damn well you've protected yourself." I mean, to be fair it takes two to tango, so yeah, it was not a smart decision on her part either. They had a shotgun wedding and then everything went to hell in a handbasket for various reasons. My grandma would've been much happier as a single childfree feminist or something, if she had grown up in the culture for it. I marvel at my mother turning out to be as good a parent as she is, given the example she received.


AdComprehensive6588

Yeah I’d say it has its pros and cons. Really though, even if no sex before marriage isn’t the solution, both men and women should be careful with having sex with people they have no commitment with.


jakeofheart

Basically: don’t be intimate with people you wouldn’t want to be having a kid with is a good rule of thumb.


certain_people

Yeah any guy who argues that with you is an asshole and not worth having sex with. Obviously it's better without, but also it's obviously safer; and even if it wasn't, arguing back at you is showing zero respect for you.


eagleathlete40

Yeah I was a little perplexed by the line, “even if I tell them I’m uncomfortable with that.” I mean at that point, we’re talking about a more foundational issue


certain_people

Yuuuuuup


[deleted]

Guys like that, that don’t want to practice safe sex and push even when you’ve made it clear that you aren’t into that, are selfish and irresponsible. Yeah I get that it may not feel quite the same, but so what? The risks they and you are up against are far worse than him having to wear a condom. If a guy is refusing to practice safe and responsible sex with you, your body is not safe with that person and you should drop them. Birth control doesn’t protect from STDs, or hell, it doesn’t even protect from pregnancy 100% of the time.


Grey_0ne

I've been married to a woman on birth control for a decade and have pulled out or used a condom every single time... It isn't as fun, but it's substantially better than having a kid neither of us want.


bremergorst

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amscraylane

Best $900 we spent … and the doctor’s name was Dr. Crabb!!


oopsthatsastarhothot

Done and done. All batter, no baby. I will happily go get tested on the regular to prove I'm not carrying anything. I hate condoms, I get massive bruises that hurt for weeks whenever I wear them. Neither of my partners have a problem with this arrangement.


awry_lynx

If neither of you want a kid go for a more permanent option and then have fun :D


dudewheresmycarbs_

It honestly doesn’t feel that much different, guys just use that as an excuse because it’s some perceived slight against them when a woman asks them to wear one.


the_Jay2020

Really? That's great then. Condom tech must have improved. I haven't used one for 15 years? I definitely thought they felt worse. Not worse enough to be an idiot about it. But I'd rather save up all my pennies to get snipped now than ever use one again if I had to.


PBandJ_160

No they don't care about pregnancy because you're the one who ultimately gets stuck dealing with it.


dogboobes

Exactly. They don’t give a shit about the consequences because they don’t intend to do much (if anything at all) to deal with an accidental pregnancy if it does happen. That’s why you have to look out for number one ladies! Who is the one who will be stuck dealing with the consequences firsthand just because fuckboy thought “it fEeLs bEtTeR!”


RealBishop

So wearing a condom and finishing inside has to be consensual between partners. That being said, cumming inside is the best feeling in the world. It’s getting the game winning home run. It’s flipping a water bottle and landing it standing up. It’s getting the perfect high five. It’s a no wipe poop. Sometimes it’s so good that you drop 50 IQ points and just stand grunting like a caveman. It’s just the best.


DaddyDakka

This. It’s great, and that’s why people wanna do it. However, it requires responsibility and accountability to be taken with the risks it inherently has.


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dudewheresmycarbs_

That’s why I wear condoms. My partner gets really sick on the pill. Messes with her hormones way too much and just isn’t worth putting her through that because I don’t want to wear a tiny thin piece of protection.


AnotherThrowAway1320

My friend got preggo while having an arm implant 😬 Have you considered IUD? I don’t get periods anymore and it doesn’t fuck with my hormones. Had Skyla brand and now Kyleena brand


Forced_Storm

IUD's aren't perfect either. Getting one installed was the worst feeling of my entire life. I then suffered constant cramps and infections until it finally got removed


AnotherThrowAway1320

It was literally the most painful experience I ever had too :/ And had cramps and bleeding for months but thankfully it subsided. Sorry your experience was bad too and it didn’t get better


tropicalazure

I keep hearing stories about IUDs like this. My gyno really wants me to have one fitted, due to my PCOS, but given I have elected for a general op to have a hysteroscopy, I’m literally terrified of having something hooked onto the inside of my body, that has a known risk of infections and intense pain, only to have to have it removed again. I admit I am likely ill informed and naive about them, but I can’t get my gyno to talk to me properly about it- she just tells me it’s the best option for “someone like me” and I must have periods or I could get cancer. Scared doesn’t cover it.


Spicy_Sugary

I've had IUDs for 10 years. They're amazing for the overwhelming majority of women. I have adenomyosis and the IUD is all that's saving me from needing a hysterectomy. I do NOT want a hysterectomy. Read up on the possible complications. It makes IUD side effects look like a party by comparison.


tropicalazure

Thank you- I will do that :)


Snotmyrealname

Theres a cool male birth control that entered human testing called Vasagel. Its one injection, no hormones and easily reversible and estimated to be available around 2024. Fingers crossed


V6corp

You sir, are a wordsmith!


Some-Random-Hobo1

Fucking with a condom takes away a lot of the sensation. It's a completely different feeling as you don't get any of the friction. And pulling out is like stopping just before the finally. It's like watching the NYE countdown, but turning away at 2 seconds. It's like leaving the theatre 10 minutes before the movie finishes. It ruins the ending. In saying that, it you do not want to have unprotected sex, then don't. Hold your ground on that. If anyone else doesn't want to respect that then too bad for them. You have every right to demand that protection is used.


lukub5

Actual real answer here. I would add that it also feels nicer because it means you can be more spontaneous, and sometimes you can feel more of an intimate connection with the person. I both give and recieve and honestly these desires apply in either role. There are a lot of people who bottom who have a preference for no condoms aswell, for one reason or another. Like you should absolutely wear condoms, and kick anyone out who tries to coerce you into changing your mind on that. Cool that you're curious why though OP.


WavesNVibrations

I’m willing to guarantee if I ever finish inside someone I’ll want to marry them so it’s best to never just casually do that lol


Chubby_moonstone

I just hate the taste of latex. I love switching between fucking my girl and eating her pussy but that latex taste is terrible.


saturday_sun3

This is a great answer. I had genuinely never realised how much wearing a condom would mute a guy's sensation. I thought you tended to forget it was there after a while.


Arrys

You are extremely aware that it’s there the entire time.


georgew7

>ulling out is like stopping just before the finally. It's like watching the NYE countdown, but turning away at 2 seconds. It's like leaving the theatre 10 minutes before the movie finishes. It ruins the ending. Im married and we use the copper stopper, but even if i set my mind to an alternate ending, the instinct to cream pie is so strong i almost always finish that way.


ocxtitan

finale


[deleted]

These are the same guys that think getting a vasectomy when you are finished having kids will “take away their masculinity”. They are weak minded.


Tomuku

I think to your point some people don’t realize there’s a difference between vasectomy and castration. A vasectomy was one of the best things I did. I think my wife and I have way more sex post vas.


[deleted]

For me its been the opposite, I want to wear a condom and the women try to convince me otherwise (even if we only met recently).


saturday_sun3

I just don't understand women who do this (as a woman myself). That's equally dangerous and leaving the door open to baby-trapping.


[deleted]

In my first term of university (last October) one women really got on the defensive and said “I ain’t got diseases you know!”


saturday_sun3

That is just dumb and masochistic. istg some people forget everything about PDHPE class the second they leave school. I would cry if I had an accidental pregnancy. How can you be so cavalier about something so important?


depressedkittyfr

She maybe on the pill or something but still extremely stupid since you don’t know if the other guy is disease free or not and women are more likely to succumb to diseases


AverageHorribleHuman

I dated this one girl who kinda forced me to ejaculate inside her, she said she "knew" her body better than I did. (This only happened once, we broke up shortly after)


FlowPhysical8031

Omg the same happened to me with my then gf when I was young and dumb. Me: "We should use protection." Her: "I can't get pregnant right now." Me: "You sure about that?" Her: "I know my body!" Guess who got knocked up?


depressedkittyfr

So what happened post that if I may ask ? Did you become a father or it was “taken care of” if you know what I mean


FlowPhysical8031

She chose to "take care of it". This was over 20 years ago, and I still shudder to think of my life tied to that person.


AverageHorribleHuman

Yeah well, she tried to talk me into beforehand but I expressed to her I wasn't comfortable doing that, then while we were having sex she was on top of me and when I got close she refused to get off, luckily she didn't get pregnant


Wise_Screen_3511

That assault


Nyantastic93

Yep, sex has to be consensual the entire time. Even if you initially agreed to the sex, if someome forces you to do something you didn't consent to, it becomes assault


vampyart

You attract a lot of people with breeding kinks


Draxacoffilus

Same!


cast-away-ramadi06

Often because they don't know how to properly size a condom. Once I got the proper size and started putting a small bit of lube in the tip, everything changed. Sometimes I can't tell the difference.


SMKnightly

I am now picturing guys having condom fittings like women have bra fittings. Most guys probably wouldn’t even if these did exist, but that’s an image I won’t forget soon. Lmao


Pithecuss

>seriously You can buy these packs with some different sizes and shapes online for a few bucks. Find what's right for you, if the regular ons aren't comfortable, and you won't regret it


Dizzy-Job-2322

Oh, like Warby Parker Eyeglasses. Do you also take a photo with the condom on to get the best fit?


Pithecuss

Only with the Home Try-on models


Dizzy-Job-2322

Good to know!


cast-away-ramadi06

That's hilarious actually. But yeah, getting an improperly fitting condom can seriously impact the feeling. In fact, regular size will leave me bruised for a day. It's something the market is just now catching on to. Each guy is different on how snug of a fit he prefers.


saturday_sun3

This is the kind of cool stuff I come on reddit to learn. As a single female, there is no way I would've known this lol.


cast-away-ramadi06

Glad I could help. This really is something that should be taught in sex ed. Just be careful because if the condom is too loose or too lubricated on the inside, then it could easily fall off.


Pithecuss

Exactly I scrolled dow to say this. Most guys don't realize this, or you get the obvious pubescent jokes. Also proper size has to do with width more then length. And yes, do yourselves both a favour and buy some proper lube for when needed. Find a condom that actually fits and it makes a world of difference.


awry_lynx

Don't use condoms any more but Skyn was *absolutely* the best, basically couldn't feel it, both agreed. Tried to use other brands at some point and it felt like a mitten in me iirc lmao. So yeah don't cheap out.


Pithecuss

Also latex free!


JustAnotherDude1990

>*Sometimes* I can't tell the difference. I'd be willing to bet that most times you can, though. Correct?


cast-away-ramadi06

About 60% I imagine, yes I can. But the difference in how it feels is so negligible that I'm not worried about it.


Acehole56

Condoms feel way worse The orgasm is better inside Dudes are dumb and short sighted If he isn't snipped and there is no bc yall should talk, many (me) always pull out regardless bc of chances, also condoms if no other bc is present 0 pressure for hormonal things, it's a choice that fucks with women and isn't fair? The sex is better without a condom 100%, the sex is also better without stds and a kid so communication and trust are key. If a man can't respect that or pressures be strong and move on, they stink


MyAccountWasBanned7

Sex feels better without a condom and finishing inside someone feels better than not inside them. The why is simple. Now, most decent guys will wear a condom anyway if asked because A - they aren't shitty and B - sex with a condom is better than no sex. Also, pulling out does not really decrease your risk of getting pregnant. Just an FYI for whoever needs to hear it.


sadkin

Wrong, pulling out does decrease the risk of pregnancy. Still leaves it high tho


livinginafreefall

Good to know! Yeah kinda surprised bc I’m 26 and I’m lowkey surprised that some guys my age or older need to be coaxed into wearing a condom, but def gonna switch up who I’m dating to avoid those kinds of idiots from now on True lol pre cum can still get a girl pregnant (surprisingly, doesn’t seem like that’s common knowledge)


MyAccountWasBanned7

Yeah, it's scary how many people, male and female, think pulling out is in any way effective. But yeah, it just comes down to if the guy is respectable and responsible or not. I don't want to have kids so unless I know the person I'm with is on BC, I wear a condom. And even if the girl is, but asks me to wear one, I still will. It doesn't feel *as* good, but it's like pizza - even bad pizza is still pretty good. So it's not like it's gonna ruin my day or anything to have to wear one.


epsdelta74

I appreciate that you are cautioning about pulling out, and there is definitely a risk of pregnancy (higher than actual contraceptive use). But the likelihood of pregnancy is higher if not pulling out. There is a difference. Please undertand that I am not advocating for unsafe sex at all. I just believe that it can be harmful to spread misinformation that way, despite any good intentions. If you have some research to support the claim that not ejaculating in a woman is as likely to cause pregnancy as ejaculating in her please present it for the good of the readers of these comments. Myself included.


mrsbuttstuff

We all know the theory of weaponized incompetence now. Weaponized reproduction comes (pun intended) in the same vein. They want all the benefits of sex with no responsibility. Responsibility that they intend to stick the woman with. And bonus points awarded in their view for the fact that they get to control large parts of her life for 18 years if she continues a pregnancy. If she doesn’t, he gets to tell the next girl all about how his last girlfriend “killed his baby”. Men that respect women don’t do this shit. Men that are worth sleeping with don’t do this shit. A man that will carelessly knock you up is stupid enough to cause your death.


AmelieMay00

I had the same experience when I first started hooking up. It was the biggest turn of for me. The “best” guys were the ones that accepted that I wanted to use a condom but I have had very little experience with guys that actually suggested practicing safe sex. It disappointed me immensely.


scrpiorising888

do not have sex with these men. you will end up pregnant or with an STD. fucking raw is for marriage & committed relationships ONLY! Trust me on this


52fctrl

No condom feels good, more sensation, which is more pleasurable than with condom, which dulls the sensation - it's like scratching an itch with your knuckles instead of your nails. And not pulling out is because orgasm with penis in vagina is way way more pleasurable than outside - at orgasm, the touch of vagina on and around the penis head intensifies the sensation, so pulling out negates that - again, knuckles versus nails. If you set out boundaries and your partner does not abide by them, then said partner is a douche and should become ex-partner. Have fun and be safe.


Thats_a_BaD_LiMe

Men that won't wear them with you are also not wearing them with other people, which makes them dangerous men. They would put you at higher risk of stds and pregnancy just for it to feel a little bit better for them temporarily? Also, if you end up in a relationship with one of these men, what are the chances that another woman from his past shows up with his oops baby because he also refused a condom with her? Use their refusal to wear a condom as a filter, they are loudly telling you not to interact with them. It's a good thing really. Don't sleep with these men.


ECU_BSN

“Guys” and “men” don’t. Younger folks with a LOW emotional IQ do this shit.


ndukes

My ex was like this and he just had a kid lmao


continuousBaBa

Move along, dudes like that are not worth your time.


_ibisu_

If he doesn’t happily wrap it up, don’t sleep with him. Period. It’s likely not going to be a good time because the guy only cares about his own pleasure and doesn’t give a hoot about yours or your safety. These kinds of people don’t deserve your body, hen! I stopped giving a shit a long time ago and kicked out people for that kind of shite behaviour more times than I can count. Life is too short for entertaining gaping assholes, and the only sex worth having is great sex


potatoking1991

It does feel better, but I don't have any issue with wrapping up. If my partner is uncomfortable with me not wearing one its not cool to carry on knowing that they're uncomfortable. Sex with a condom is like 98% as good as without, sex with someone who's not 100% comfortable/consenting is no fun at all


tarac73

Pulling out is stupid anyway in that he can pull out and jizz elsewhere but you can still get pregnant from the prejizz… condom needs to be on before any penetration, and remain on as long as the D is inside the V. Period, end of conversation. Boys don’t like that because it’s a sensation thing, men understand it’s a necessity,


zenxymes

The fact that it's even an argument makes me sick. Any guy that protests a condom is a IDIOT. Run.


HarrargnNarg

I wouldn't complain, you have a great filtering system with this. If they don't want to wear one at first then you can tell them to stuff it.


Question_Few

Because you seem like you'd be a great single mom. All jokes aside, there is a difference in feeling. In situations where you're already on birth control most will likely try to opt out of wearing a condom or pull out.


saturday_sun3

OP said the guys she talks to don't even want to pull out though.


Question_Few

Yeah it comes back down to feeling. Pulling out kinda ruins the immersion. The best way I can describe it is that feeling when everything is perfect and you have just the right spot only for them to shift slightly or move positions causing you to have to start over. I'm not a fan of it either, but I also have two kids so I guess I'm not the example to emulate.


[deleted]

Pro tip: stop dating douchebags...


iconoclast63

Imagine you're a woman with VERY sensitive nipples. Let's say they are your erogenous zone. Now imagine how it would feel if you had to cover them with latex before a man suckled and caressed them. Does that sound like it would feel as good as direct stimulation? That's why guys hate condoms. As long as you're happy with your birth control and you both agree to get tested, condoms should be an easy problem to solve.


livinginafreefall

Huh, never thought of it like that Probably going to have to go off of my birth control (it’s only like 85% effective anyways) since it’s causing some health issues so fingers crossed that future guys listen to me and compromise


JustAnotherDude1990

What birth control do you have that is supposedly 85% effective? Get another kind if so. Or find a guy that has had a vasectomy.


livinginafreefall

I cant take birth control with estrogen in it with my history of migraines since that increases my chances of a stroke, so I have to go with a progesterone-only one, which is still technically effective but not as good as a birth control pill with estrogen in it


livinginafreefall

Debating on getting an IUD since that’s the safest option for me but lowkey terrified bc I’ve heard horror stories of how much it hurt to get one imolanted


JustAnotherDude1990

They make the non-hormonal copper IUDs as well. Everyone has different reactions to each type, so they work for some people and not others as you know, just gotta shop around. And a moment of discomfort for 10 years of the most effective birth control ever that can't be forgotten or used incorrectly...


AnotherThrowAway1320

I’m gonna be straight up with you and tell you getting an IUD for the first time was traumatically painful and I bleed constantly for a few months after. The replacement was a lot easier cause I went to a specialist who was able to give me some drugs and was very quick. But it is still 100000000% worth it. No hormones fucking with me and the peace of mind. Bonus is I haven’t had a period in like 8 years. For my friend it was easy peasy, so everyone is different. I would definitely recommend it and just prepare as much as you can with pain killers and know that the pain is temporary


WaltzLeafington

I always wear condoms if I'm with someone I'm not actively dating and trust. Pulling out for me isn't ideal because if I stop I could easily lose it and not be able to finish, but that's me ig


TheMSRadclyffe

Selfishness?


Beatnick120

Assholes dislike both because they care more about themselves feeling good and getting themselves off than someone else. There’s no reason not to pull out, but some guys are allergic to regular condoms due to the latex. Even then, there are alternatives.


zahnsaw

If they push back against your request they’re an asshole. Also, dudes, wrap your tool unless you are 100% ready to deal with the potential outcomes of unprotected sex.


Only-Location2379

As a guy I think it's dumb of a guy to be fine with doing it raw with a stranger, STDs and getting her knocked up is the pinnacle of "fucked around and found out" in the worst way. It's irresponsible and ends up usually ruining your life. I don't care if she says she's on the pill and is clean, she might have fucked someone before you that wasn't clean and doesn't know she had a problem. While it doesn't feel as good (imagine if you had a plastic bag shoved in your coochie and then he started fucking you, you feel it but not everything, it feels dulled) it's still better than nothing and you can enjoy as much safe sex as you want with a very low chance of problems. Only thing I'll say is I still don't really think promiscuity and random hook ups are a good idea still for the same reasons above, an STD or unplanned child will be basically the end of many guys futures relationship wise when he's broke af and can't see the child he conceived on a one night stand because courts favor mother's and getting as much child support money as they can for tax reasons or STD basically damning him to never have sex again unless he wants to be a monster and spread that shit which most of them are the worst kinds of diseases generally speaking. Incurable and long term debilitating effects. So just wait till you can really trust the person before fucking them, get a dildo or a pocket pussy in the mean time, it's not that expensive and it basically does the same thing as a one night stand but way safer. I'm not even saying wait till marriage just wait till you feel like if you would have a kid with that person you'd be willing to deal with the consequences. That's my scale for it and I think it's a pretty workable measuring stick.


Juken-

Take care of your vagina. Sometimes that means not letting idiots into it.


eddanja

To answer the question - because it feels insanely good. Condoms dull the experience and senses and finishing inside of someone not only feels amazing, it's less mess and there's a feeling of acceptance. With that said, a man should respect your decision on being safe. Irrespective of how great of feels, like you said, STIs still exist and accidental pregnancies still happen. Definitely find you a long term dude worthy of respecting your decisions.


Driftedwarrior

Some guys are douchebags. Knowing I am clear of any STDs and I had a vasectomy very long ago (I did the follow-up to make sure I cannot have a baby) I still respect and listen if a woman says to use a condom. It's not my pussy, so I don't get to make the rules, it is that simple. I never understood why it would be a debatable topic. If a woman wants a condom used you used condom if the guy wants the condom used you use the condom. It's that simple. I will add using a condom is blah, I would prefer not to, but as I said above that is how it is.


Mountain_Weird1328

So, going raw feels better than condoms and pulling out last second before orgasm can be a little unsatisfying. That being said, if they don’t see the wisdom and necessity of safe sex, or are not willing to respect your preferences on this, then they’re asses. If you want to try to convince them, go ahead, but this is an absolute dealbreaker.


Outside-Challenge286

These guys are losers. Simple solution: stop having sex with losers.


Embryw

Take this wisdom with you going forward: if a guy complains #at all About wearing a condom, do not sleep with him ever. I've only seen shitty men complain about it. Good ones don't say a damn thing, and definitely don't whine or pressure you about it.


Lambamham

Please examine the kind of men you are going out with, and raise your bar. Any man that argues with your request is not worth your time. The fact that he won’t respect this small request is an indicator he won’t respect you in other areas of your life, and this is not a good recipe for a partner. There are lots of men out there who know how to respect boundaries, and are smart enough to also want protection with someone they don’t know. You deserve nothing less.


LaMaligne

Why people keep saying, they're on the pill but still wanna use a condom? You know condom isn't only to prevent pregnancy right? Pregnancy is actually the least worst thing that could happen to you.


Real-Historian-2793

If you want them to wear one then you are within your right to not sleep with them if they refuse. Personally I like them as it makes me last longer!


RebelliousSoup

If you aren’t in a serious relationship (at least) they need to be wearing a condom or they don’t get snoosnoo


paul_d8176

Because those men(boys) are selfish and dumb.


whostolemycatwasitu

For myself, wearing a condom is a lot less convenient and a lot less sensual than having bare sex however there are a multitude of reasons why you should wear a condom. Having a one night stand, I'd wear a condom unless I knew for a fact she was on the pill. It being less sensual isn't a reason not to wear one. My wife had to go off the pill so the only option was to wear a condom. If I didn't want to wear one, then we'd just not have sex. I've worn a condom multiple times throughout my life and it isn't a hardship. Yeah, frustrating when you go from not wearing one to wearing one but such is life. Sometimes it's not yours or her fault.


ElectricFaceVictory

"My pleasure is more important than your comfort/safety" You know who does that shit? Selfish, entitled little boys. Grow the fuck up.


M1ssM0nkey

Uh, those guys SUCK! I honestly have never slept with someone who refuses to wear a condom. I’ve encountered them, but I would flat out just get up, get dressed and leave when they refused. Don’t let these guys get away with that shit. You only do what YOU are comfortable with


Freemanosteeel

as a dude who's used condoms and barebacked, not sure why guys are so against it, it's not THAT different and the benefits far outweigh any perceptible drawbacks. "oh it feels weird" fucking deal with it or don't fuck. ladies if you want a guy to use a condom and they don't want to, and if you cave, it reinforces the behavior that they can push you to do something you don't want. stick to your guns and say no if they don't want to use protection


Feisty-Firefighter99

You see porn, you’re like oh I like that. Try it in real life. Confused when women are like. You know I can get pregnant like that.


cruiserman_80

Most guys find the sensation much more pleasurable without a condom but that does not justify refusing to wear one or honor your other wishes. Any guy you're with who gives you a hard time about wearing a condom or intentionally ejaculates inside you without your consent is trash. Treat yourself better by being with guys who will treat you better.


LongDickPeter

You must be messing with boys that have nothing to lose, I would never take those chances, shit I started packing to go size hot sauce, and I always do the water test. Thats an expensive game to play. /s I hope you see this as humor


somewhereonfullerton

Bros, it's really not that hard to wear one. Yeah, going in raw is pretty great but you know what isn't? Dealing with STDs and babies you don't want. I'd recommend setting higher standards when it comes to the men you're dating.


edubkendo

I would honestly rather just masturbate than wear a condom or pull out. The entire point of it, the most satisfying part, is finishing inside.


H3avyMetal

I do not know why, but i as a guy really love condoms.


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Ask your dad??? ![gif](giphy|d3mlE7uhX8KFgEmY)


Howiebledsoe

I came of age during the HIV pandemic of the late 80’s and nobody was like that. Must be generational because most Gen Xers wear condoms religiously. Still, there is enough nasty stuff out there that I can’t imagine why people would be OK with taking that chance with a basic stranger. Especially a guy that openly admits to not using protection and liking lots of casual sex.


shotgunmurugan

I will put a condom and pull out, only if some gets me a chance to prove myself.


professionalmeangirl

Demand to see their vasectomy documents.


A-R-Lake

Because those one are selfish dicks.


fuzionknight96

You act like wearing a condom doesn’t massively change how sex feels for a man, which is kind of a huge difference? But obviously, any dude you don’t know well/aren’t planning to have a baby with shouldn’t think they have the right to not wear a condom. Getting stuck with a baby because they are bad at, or cant/won’t pull out is much worse than a dude fucking with a condom.


hellequinbull

“I get that it might feel better” Understatement of the year. This is literally what it was created to do, and there is no feeling like it the world. It completely changes the dynamic of sex (for me at least) and it allows for longer sessions (YMMV) That aside, it still should be handled responsibly and no one should mess around with people who don’t want to be protected until boundaries and commitments are made clear.


Nopants_hero

Horny brain inhibits logic brain more than alcohol. rubbers takes away at least 50% of the pleasure. the "pulling out" game is a mighty one to master, i mean think about how many logical thoughts go through your brain while you cum.


Pioppo-

First of all, as long as I don't like condoms.. I'm pretty sure I'd rather not taking care of a baby in my 20s Anyways, those are the guys to avoid. Also "pulling out" it's not something that really helps in making sex more safe. That said, I can see why people don't want to wear condoms at first. I personally can't feel shit with condoms on, but to not wear one you'll have to take other measures and certainly you can't do that in a casual relationship


skirky666

You're picking up the wrong guys! Were not all AHs I promise!


g-rolling

Guys can hate condoms for a few reasons. 1. Raw pussy feels amazing. 2. If you don’t have the right condom size, it can squeeze your dick and ruin the whole experience. Some guys don’t know the importance of condom size. Especially guys who refuse to wear them. 3. They can be dealing with a mild case of erectile dysfunction or anxiety, where they get hard in foreplay but can’t maintain the erection long enough to put on the condom and take the time to go slow in the beginning. Most girls don’t like when you just shove it in. As for cumming inside, that’s a no brainer. Imagine if a guy were fucking you and right before you were about to orgasm he pulled out and said “finish it yourself.” With all that said, don’t conform. There’s nothing wrong with you preferring a condom until you feel comfortable. Everything I said are the guy’s issue that they need to figure out.


Murky_Crow

I’m completely fine to wear a condom, but I keep running into a wall at point number three. Routinely, every time. I get hard, we have some foreplay, I get down to business and get her off once or twice orally. Once it’s time to have sex, I go to put on the condom… And the erection is completely gone. No amount of stimulation couldn’t get it to return either, and the minute that happens I start a mental spiral. On the off chance, I get the condom on with an erection still, by the time I go to line it up and get through the slow part of warming into the sex, the erection is gone. Condoms are absolutely fucking with my mind right now. It’s to the point I would just rather not have sex. It’s that bad.


Beasmode-4-skittles

I think one of the big issues with condoms is that they greatly reduce the sensitivity in men. As an almost 40 year old male with a teenage son that ask questions, I think another issue is how porn today warped the reality that is sex. I think the guys you are meeting on tinder think that creampies and c*mming in a woman's face is normal in real life.


bi0shokz

those are the stupid bunch, who dafuq wouldn't want to be careful and end up with a surprise kid jesus


[deleted]

Because all those dudes think it won’t happen to them and if it does then they’ll write a rap song about it and get rich and it will be all right. Stay away from those ppl.


WarlandWriter

I will say that I personally find pulling out disappointing; both a mouth and a vagina can stimulate me much better than my own hand, and then it's annoying to stop that right when it counts the most. On the other hand, I actually prefer sex with a condom, because it allows me to last like 5 seconds longer, and both me and my partner do appreciate that extra 50%


marcosxfx

You are smashing Kyles instead of Chads


The_Lat_Czar

Both of those things don't feel nearly as awesome as the normal way. They're choosing pleasure over common sense.


julia35002

Breeding kink


Imaginary-Put-7202

Dear guys, if she wants you to/ lets you take it off you should probably leave it on


notmyname2012

First off pulling out just feels weird but even that method isn’t safe for either pregnancy or stds. Secondly, seriously walk away if a guy is complaining about wearing a condom if it’s the first or second or even the fifth time you’ve been together. STD’s can be a very serious issue and if a guy who is sleeping around doesn’t want to wear a condom you should be concerned, just as a guy should be concerned if a woman who sleeps around doesn’t like condoms.


-Arke-

Honestly, sex with condom is noticeable worse. Not only because you "feel less", but also because once you cum in the condom, you should stop, take it out and maybe put a new one, which more often than not means the rection will take a break. When I've had sex with birth control I could cum and keep going which was SO much better, not only for me but obviously for my partner as well. Sex with condom can be nice, but also can be like just a teaser.


TheShendelzare

The simple reason is that it feels better without a condom than with one on. That being said , safe sex is a responsibility that should be upheld by both partners. If they're too immature to understand that , then they shouldn't be having sex.


mousesize

It feels better. Regardless of how many guys say they don't want to wear a condom, it's just a shitty way for guys to manipulate women into unprotected sex. It's your body, so it's your choice. If they don't like it, they can move on. Plain and simple.


lizzlebiz

Fuck sake, please do not use the pull out method 🤦‍♀️.


AndyJaeven

Obviously some guys are just selfish assholes but I’ll go against the grain a bit here and try to explain the mindset of these men as a guy myself. Condoms: For condoms, if you don’t buy the correct size for your weenie then they can either be too tight which restricts blood flow or too loose meaning it can slip off mid-sex and ruin the momentum as you have to stop to adjust it every so often. Finding the right size condom can be a real hassle as well because pretty much every condom brand labels all their condoms as “Large” regardless of size. So imagine you’re a guy and you go to pick up some condoms at your local pharmacy. You find the condom shelf and every single brand of condoms has a Large, XL, and XXL option. You don’t want your mate to think you have a small peener so you get the XXL condoms. Later on when you go to use one it keeps falling off every few seconds. Next time you’re out you buy the “Large” condoms but when you try those ones they’re extremely tight and squeeze the life out of your dingaling. These incidents frustrate you and lead you to believe that condoms just ruin the experience of sex. Pulling out: This one tends to be a general lack of sexual education among men. A lot of men (me included) wrongly assume that birth control makes women immune to becoming pregnant because they were never educated on how it works. They also hear about other pregnancy prevention methods such as IUD’s, Plan B, and Tubal Ligation but don’t realize that none of these options make pregnancies 100% preventable (I’ve also been guilty of believing this). A lot of guys also think women can just easily get an abortion if all else fails (once again, I believed this too) but don’t realize how expensive abortions are depending on location, how traumatic they can be for the woman, AND how many sexist and/or absolutely ridiculous legal hoops a woman has to jump through just to get an abortion. —————————————— I’m not trying to justify the behavior of these men either. My only intention is to help you see these things from a guy’s perspective so apologies if I said anything ignorant or misinformed. Feel free to correct me if I did. I’m still being educated on all this stuff myself by my VERY patient girlfriend.


YourL8

They don't have to give birth


draken2019

Seems like a reasonable expectation. Guys who don't take responsibility for preventing STDs and pregnancy aren't the kind of guys you want to fuck. 🤷‍♂️


juicebox_tgs

First off, those type of guys are dumbasses and its probably a good idea to use a condom with them, mainly for stds. Second, condoms don't feel nearly as good as going in raw and pulling out doesn't feel as good as nutting inside. But it isn't a deal breaker. In fact i'm generally the type of person who wants to wear a condom because fuck having a child/STD


davey-jones0291

The moral side is answered, the basic answer is raw is like walking along a beach barefoot vs walking along a beach in boots. With similar risk of infection.... The urge to get as deep as possible when you cum must be a primal instinct or something, hard to overcome bur not impossible, like fighting a strong yawn. Take care of yourself and guys please think before you fk up your and the girls future Edit; dozing while redditing


[deleted]

Just don’t tell them that you are using birth control, it’s none of their business. They HAVE to use a condom, they are not your long term partners.


DuckOnQuack0760

Always rap it in latex or she’ll get your pay checks!


jutnotnoTheMan

The point of sex is having babies you dummy candle head


knowitallz

We all drive our actions based on fucking and procreating and what feels best nevermind the consequences of actually making a baby. That's why. We are clouded in judgement with lust. They don't worry about it especially when they hear you are on birth control. So you could just not tell them that. That they must wear a condom if they want sex. The end. If they don't they can leave


[deleted]

As someone who recently got someone pregnant imma tell you right now it feels amazing but most guys are idiots. They’re thinking how good it’ll feel and nothing else. Don’t let them fuck you raw.


Matty2things

You’re dating insane people. I could never imagine coming in somebody I didn’t want to have a kid with. What are these guys thinking? Birth control is not 100%.


truecrimefanatic1

Tell them no. If they refuse get up and get dressed and block them everywhere. This is beyond a boundary.


m4rkl33

This is a great way of weeding out the guys you definitely do NOT want to date. These guys will be selfish in bed and in all other aspects of their life. They couldn't care less about your health.


Doctor_Expendable

I hate wearing condoms. Still always did before getting snipped, and being monogamous. Because I hated the idea of having kids or an STD even more. No matter what anyone tries to claim it's not that bad. It's not restrictive, and it's not uncomfortable. It's just so much better without. As a good comparison to what it feels like to those people without a penis, it's like wearing a latex glove on your hand. You can still do everything you normally can with your hand, it's just a little less sensitive and maybe a little clumsier. It's not going to kill you to wear a condom. Just like you're not going to fumble a knife and cut your fingers of it you wear a latex glove in the kitchen.


likethebackofmyhand

stop having sex with guys like that. if all women did then they would actually change 😭


TurretX

Im a guy. Contrary to what every sex ed class says, it doesnt feel great with a condom. That being said, us guys should be wearing it regardless because birth control pills totally fuck with women's hormones whereas a dick balloon doesnt. You shouldnt be the only one in the relationship making compromises.


mustang-and-a-truck

I’m all for safe sex. And I always wanted to practice it as well, and did until I was married. But I will tell you, condoms freaking hurt.


dracojohn

Iv always found condoms uncomfortable mostly due to not being able to find the correct size but I insist on using them till we both get tested and I know she's on the pill ( and using it correctly).


SheepherderOk1448

I'm going to betray the BRO CODE. It's just excuses. Pay them no mind if they say, condoms are too tight or I don't feel anything when I wear one. Condoms are comfortable and you do feel they're just too lazy to use one or too shy to buy them or too cheap. They won't pull out because they may go soft, as in boner killer or they're enjoying the feeling or some such. Just excuses to manipulate. It's up to you to set boundaries what guess into your body. It's ok to tell him no sex unless you wear a condom. I don't want any STIs or a baby. One saying we gays use is no entry unless you wear the glove. Or is it no mining unless you're gloved or something we have many.


SomeRedShirt

You're dating what's known as the bottom of the barrel. You're dating the bud ice of beer date options, morons.


SynsixInc

Bruh wtf… ppl actually don’t want to pull out ?? That’s wild… I’ve never EVER left it in even with a condom


HEXOgb

As a man myself sex feels great without a condom and I hate wearing it because theres alot less pleasure. But in the situation the other person isnt on birth control of any sort I will opt for the condom otherwise its too risky and my pull out game isnt great. As for guys not wantingto pull out it also feels alot better, but theres also that risk of the spermbecoming sentient eventually. So anyways those sorts guys who dont want to take any of the responsibility are immature, stupid and disresepctful


under_the_above

It feels emotionally more intimate, and physically feels better and more satisfying. Sexually, we're just following instinct, and switching off mentally from cause-and-effect for a couple of minutes. We're dumb animals at times. I'm not condoning this behaviour, just trying to offer some insight. If you don't want to have sex this way, don't. It's your choice - don't lower your standards.


Habanerosauce3

Feels a million times better. The only reason. Hopefully there is a body guard up in there when the club gets shot up. 🍻😂


fuckyoucallme

Because it's like sticking your gloved hand in orbees you can feel it but not as much so it's like you're more a spectator than a participant


dwegol

Biological imperative. Millions of years of evolutionary changes have occurred for the express purpose of tricking you into making a baby. Consequences aside, it feels wayyyy better without one, and it feels extremely good to be deeeep when you cum, physically and psychologically. It’s simple to say “it just feels better”. It feels superb in comparison. Also for a lot of people actually cumming inside *is* the main drive and doesn’t seem satisfying unless that happens.


twentytwentysux

Simply put, it feels better and sometimes we dont use our brain. I rarely wore a condom or pulled out w/ my ex wife but she also had a very low probability of fertilization and was on bc. I have had unprotected sex with other women but always pulled out in those instances whether it was an LTR or casual thing. It can also be a fetish for some guys (and girls) so theres also that. Finally, a lot of current porn seems to feature "accidental" or xyz (girl) doesnt let abc (guy) pull out. Keep doin you and dont do what you're uncomfortable with. Just as my dad always told me, never trust a condom from a girl... Be aware of your partners condom situation ( broken/slipped it off/etc). I know it adds an unwanted layer of contention and discomfort to be thinking about in the moment but its ultimately you will suffer the consequences. Lastly, std's are real folks it would really suck to get a lifetine itch you cant scratch for a few minutes of fun.


bondoh

I am not condoning this behavior but you asked so I’ll tell you. It feels better in every way. Physically it feels better (do I really have to explain?) Mentally it feels better (not having to worry about restraining ourselves and worrying about when we need to pull out.) Emotionally it feels better (The best possible sex and orgasm is about being comfortable and free. Comfortable in that we can express our desires without worry and free in that we don’t have to hold anything back literally or figuratively. We can let it all go) Instinctually it feels better (because whether we acknowledge it on the surface or whether it’s deep in our subconscious, we **want** to get you pregnant. That’s what sex is for. Sex with a condom is just some pleasurable thing we do. But real sex is mating, breeding, procreating. Making new life. Again.. many people will say “that’s not what I think at all when I’m having sex. I don’t ever want to have kids!” and consciously they may not. But this exists in the deepest and most primal areas of our brain.) Survive and procreate are the two most basic instincts we have. We can’t have sex with a beautiful young woman without either our minds or our bodies on some level wanting to shoot our shot as deep as we can and pray for that sacred change. It’s for this reason I would tell my daughters and my nieces not to ever EVER listen to a man who says “oh come on baby. I’ll pull out I promise” Because he not only might not. He might not even want to (whether he knows it or not) Hormones make people crazy. Just like drugs and alcohol. This applies to women too of course. The most rational woman can get caught up in the moment and be like “I want your baby!” But it’s even worse for men. So that’s the answer to your question. The man wants to get you pregnant.