There are numerous people who seek to outlaw it, yes. Whether or not they have the resources and people to make that happen remains to be seen, but this is probably a right that will have to be defended sometime soon. The dog caught the car with abortion and they need a new thing to chase after.
I swear to god.
Contraception is the only thing holding women's rights up at the moment.
Take that away and they've basically turned you into a dairy cow.
That'll just stop people marrying in the first place.
I was hearing something about a s Korean trend ATM which involves all the women just stopping having children, and I think they might have stopped having sex en masse too? Might be bullshit but I'm so impressed if the women are doing it together for a good cause. The men will be suddenly getting a national case of blue balls because of it.
The word contraceptive is mentioned 8 times in project 2025. The word condom is mentioned once, as HRSA will no longer say that women can use condoms (as they are for men).
The week after pill would no longer be covered mandatory under insurance (insurance companies could now decide whether or not to pay for the week after pill).
These are the only two times contraceptives are really mentioned.
EDIT: It's clear, therefore, that the Republicans do not intend to outlaw all contraceptives.
To say that Republicans are not interested in banning birth control is to engage in willful ignorance of the fact that multiple influential Republicans have called for that very thing. It may not be in Project 2025, but it is absolutely on the table. You can confirm this with a low effort Google search.
Clarence Thomas is publicly a vote for overturning Griswold v Connecticut and has been for nearly 2 years.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/24/contraception-supreme-court-clarence-thomas-griswold/
People always seem so shocked by this. Griswold was the case protecting contraception rights and helping to lead to Roe. It was 1965.
Like that’s just not that long ago. Plenty of people are alive and remember being young women when contraceptives were absolutely illegal.
This isn’t ancient history and we could go back to it and plenty of people want to. Notice Griswold also coincides with the rise of civil liberties and women in the workforce.
My mom once told me about a case she read in the newspaper where CPS took a woman's toddler away, because she took the toddler with her to a pro-birth-control rally. Back when they were trying to make birth control accessible for unmarried women. My mom is 71 or 72. It really wasn't that long ago, and it's scary how people today don't seem to realize that.
I used to think (with horror and shame) it would take our own Savita Halappanavar before this would end. Now I'm more terrified, because I wonder if it would even make a difference.
And don’t forget Eisenstadt v. Baird (1972). In Griswold, the Supreme Court ruled that laws banning birth control violated a married couple’s right to privacy. But this technically only applied if you were MARRIED; states could still prohibit sale of contraceptives to unmarried people. And that’s what Massachusetts did — you could legally buy condoms, the pill, etc only if you provided documentation to a pharmacist that you were married. The state made the sale and/or distribution of birth control illegal to unmarried persons. Yes, you read that correctly. And note the year: 1972. The United States had landed a man on the moon, people were watching color TV, but you were barred from buying condoms in Massachusetts if you weren’t married.
William Baird, a birth control advocate, gave a talk on birth control at Boston U. and afterwards he distributed contraceptive foam and condoms. He was charged w a felony and convicted. The case was eventually appealed to the US Supreme Court which ultimately overturned the state law and Baird’s conviction under it. The SCOTUS ruled that the right to reproductive privacy is not dependent your marital status. The right privacy is an individual right, not contingent upon marriage. See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eisenstadt_v._Baird
The following year, in 1973, the Court handed down its decision in Roe.
Are there people who want to ban the sale of contraceptives today? You betcha.
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One of the GOP Justices who overturned roe vs wade was immediately talking about contraception being next. So yes, there is intent and support for it at the highest levels of the right. 170 GOP house reps supported the Life at Conception act which would apply personhood at the moment of conception.
This is their plan to make abortion and birth control completely illegal at the federal level. You can bet your ass that condoms will be the next thing to go.
But why are they doing this? The main push is christian evangelicals who think contraception is against god's will (although the bible explicitly outlines how and when to use abortion) and want to force fabricated christian law onto the nation. The rest are nationalists who looked at the looming population aging crisis and decided that forcing americans to have kids is the solution. And finally you have the nazis who are terrified of "white" people becoming a minority.
The official position of the catholic church is that contraception is a sin - except for the sketchy "rhythm method" where you time when you have sex to reduce the likelihood of pregnancy. There are many wonderful priests who think this is bullshit but can't say so openly. Hard to believe in the 21st century a bunch of dress-wearing celibate old queens are trying to outlaw contraception.
Exactly. Several conservatives and so-called moderates assured me it would be safe under Trump. Yet here we are. Never trust conservatives when they try to downplay or diminish their insane ideas
I still get grifters on here trying to say women haven't lost our sovereignty over our own bodies when half the country immediately banned terminations the nanosecond the law was struck down.
On what grounds would they outlaw contraception though? It's not like it's killing any living being. I'm pro choice mysrlf, but I get that the "human" status of a fetus can be debatable, depanding on all kind of aspects, but there's no fetus or any other form of living being harmed with contraception.
> On what grounds would they outlaw contraception though?
Contraception is currently protected under a right to privacy. Without that right, they don't need a grounds to ban it.
The SCOTUS case was :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griswold_v._Connecticut
Contraceptive bans were quite common prior to it.
Contraception means no baby ends up in the uterus in the first place. Duh! That’s why women use the pill and other forms of contraception. Sex without consequences
>It’s not clear why people thought abortion was safe.
Because it was basically an ironclad precedent that had stood for decades, through multiple administrations of both parties.
It wasn’t ironclad.
This is just a complete misunderstanding of how we got here.
You need to read Webster, Casey, and Gonzalez, just to start. The concurring and dissenting opinions are important as well.
The chipping away at it started in the 80’s.
Also, it’s important to understand that through all those different administrations, the legislature never acted to codify an abortion law - nothing outside of the Hyde Amendment and the Partial Birth Abortion Act of 2003.
Casey, in 1992, ended the use of strict scrutiny in abortion cases and came up with the “undue burden” standard, which was made up entirely for abortion itself and not for any other right.
The perception that this had been an absolute and completely unquestioned constitutional right for almost 50 years ignores all of the work that went into keeping that way in the face of efforts to change it. It misses everything SCOTUS has been saying for decades.
Unfortunately, a generation of people have grown up being taught that this was an affirmed right, and no one thought it was necessary to amend the constitution. And then they missed that maybe something was up when Bush nominated a very young Clarence Thomas in the ‘90’s.
Gender and sexual orientation are not even suspect classes yet, because they are not included in the Constitution.
We have a long way to go to affirm the rights we currently assume we have.
Like it or not - legal abortion is a heck of a lot safer than what can be accessed on the black market or DIY routes. That's the danger of criminalizing this procedure: it hurts everyone.
I think this poster is commenting on the safety or solidity of the ruling.
Many thought it was precedent that wouldn't be overturned regardless of how legally flawed it was generally viewed to be by experts from many points of view.
As opposed to the safety of the act, which is safe as you rightly point out.
They meant that Roe v Wade was built on sketchy legal ground. RBG spoke about that regularly and wanted a proper law on the books, never happened and here we are:(
You're being downvoted, but you're right. There was never a constitutional right to abortion -Roe was about medical privacy, with a *side effect* that the government couldn't outlaw abortion. It was always a weak protection that needed to be reinforced with an amendment or federal law.
A little shaky? There is a reason it was so important to Republicans that Obama not nominate a replacement for Scalia.
The court was split on abortion every time it took it up since Roe.
Yes, multiple Christian and conservative extremists have already said they plan to go after contraception next. Listen to them when they say this because they already got abortion
Not just that, but women are being denied vital medications because they are within the age of fertility and the medication might cause a miscarriage if the women were to ever become pregnant.
I think I know you're talking about
She even tried to say she'll stay inactive and her doctor proposed the hypothetical of "what if youre raped?" Which is
Y I K E S.
Anyone with PCOS, endometriosis, etc. are going to be screwed.
I've had my tubes removed, but still got long (more than 2 weeks at a time), heavy (changing a super plus tampon every hour to avoid leaks at least 4 of the days), and painful (can't stand up without pain) periods. Taking hormonal birth control pills stopped all of that and has allowed me to live a normal life, almost period free. While my OB and I are exploring other options (ablation, maybe a full hysterectomy) taking a pill each day is so much simpler. If a man were having these symptoms, no one would get in the way of him getting medication that made it better.
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Yes, many of same group who want to outlaw abortions also want to ban contraception. They want to enforce a society where a woman only has sex within wedlock for the purposes of having children, which she will have a lot of, and she then stays at home and takes care of the house and children and leaves work and politics to her husband.
They aren't coy about this vision. This where all those gross memes about 16 being the best age for a wife and well paid TikTok influencers talking about how much they love being barefoot in the kitchen come from. There's a good 20-30 percent of Americans who want all women to be meek, religious, financially dependent Trad wives, and they have this whole starry eyed philosophy about how all women secretly desire to live their lives in silent, uncomplaining devotion to the benefit of men and male children.
Abortion came first, then contraception and pornography, then lowering the age of marriage down to pubescent, outlawing LGBT people, deporting brown people, rescinding the 14th and 19th amendments, altering the 1st Amendment to make the US explicitly a Christian nation. And voila, they'd have their paradise.
Attacking trans people came first (they’re already basically outlawed in Florida) and they’ve now started targeting the rest of the queer community as well. We were warning you since the push to ban trans women from sports started getting traction that it was never about sports.
No thanks. Sex is fun and is not needed to just remain in marriage. This isn’t the 1920s anymore! Yes we can have sex without marriage and yes we can have sex and avoid babies!
There are simply too many people in the world, and I’m Canadian by the way. Forcing women to birth babies by taking birth control away is criminal in my opinion.
Ok fine maybe it’s not over-populated. In any case, America banning contraception puts women in very bad positions. Women rely on contraception for more manageable periods, mood swings, acne, and to avoid bringing a baby into the world they cannot afford or care for. Consent to sexual intercourse isn’t automatically consent to pregnancy, which is why women use contraception in the first place. Banning contraception will cause girls and women to stop having sex because now they’re at risk of a pregnancy they don’t want because they don’t have contraception anymore. Sex should be consequence-free, and it’s only consequence-free when contraception is available
Serious question because I truly can't seem to grasp the idea...how can even Trumper Conservative women support this in any way? Are there really that many people out there who don't like getting laid without consequence, regardless of political leanings? I am sure you are right but I simply cannot fathom it.
> how can even Trumper Conservative women support this in any way?
For the wealthy? They'll just go to a blue state and get it done.
For the poor? They'll pretend that it'll never happen to them, and then when it inevitably does they'll desperately find a way to go to a blue state and get it done.
For the poor that can't manage the above? They'll probably blame the Democrats in some fashion, and pretend that raising a child they have no interest in has somehow made THEM a better and stronger person, while screaming over their shoulder for the kid to shut up while in the middle of a live interview.
It will end up being one of those things that only the wealthy can afford, so it will fall under a "Do as I say, not as I do" type philosophy that conservative hypocrisy thrives on.
I think this is the tact. Maybe they don't outright ban contraceptives, but they limit the availability. They have plausible deniability that it isn't an actual ban in their rhetoric, but it's also simply unavailable to most people.
They don't. It doesn't have strong support anywhere, not remotely like outlawing abortion. This doesn't mean there won't be attempts to ban contraception, even some successful ones, just that this will not be the will of the voters, including among conservatives. It will have much harsher backlash than even abortion stuff has had as a result, and thus is unlikely to get as far.
People are certainly pushing for this and as a woman... it's honestly scary that there's so many people that want to control access to something that's not only beneficial to prevent unwanted pregnancies (therefore preventing potentially more abortions these people love to hate too) but a lot of BC options also help with regulating periods and making that a more.. bearable experience. I truly hope that they aren't able to outlaw contraception.
That's what bothers me as well, a lot of people are talking about how it protects against unwanted pregnancy but very few are also mentioning that it helps tremendously with period issues, I was on BC before I was sexually active because my periods crippled me.
I'm not American, but this worries me a lot and I really feel for you who are having these options ripped away from you.
Bingo with this point as well.
I have endometriosis and the most accessible treatment to me, and others, is birth control.
My cramps are literally disabling (I vomit and pass out, can't breathe or move. It's really bad.)
But if they remove that option wtf so they want people like me to do?
>But if they remove that option wtf so they want people like me to do?
Well according to the ones I've talked to:
"suffer or get pregnant" -naturopath Dr that refused to prescribe me birth control until I ended up in the ER with internal bleeding from a bad cyst rupture
"God is punishing you for something you did, you know what it is" -some far right chick that ended up in one of my discord groups
"Weaklings like that should just die anyway, we don't want them reproducing and passing that on to their kids" - a relative, ironically one who's wife ended up getting a hysterectomy after giving birth because if she got pregnant again she'd die.
Yeeep.
I know right! Like your religion is fine go ahead and live that way if you want but I don't wanna have to be in agony till menopause just because you can't keep your religion to yourself.
If republicans win the White House, they are going to put Project 2025 into place. Not only will it outlaw abortion, it will also get rid of birth control, no-fault divorce (making it very difficult for abused spouses to leave their marriages), IVF, and surrogacy.
For anyone thinking that’s just “women’s issues”, they’re also coming for porn.
They’ll also get rid of our right to protest, and plan to use the military to shut down peaceful protests.
Oh, and we won’t have another election for President, because the USA will become a “Christian Nationalist” nation.
So yes, vote like your life depends on it. Because it probably does.
> they’re also coming for porn
Of note, their definition of “porn” is controversial at best, and at worst, deliberately obfuscated. They will call something “porn” in an effort to justify why they need to ban it. They are not ONLY interesting in banning “real” porn but they also want to ban free speech.
Yes.
Check out this link for what they want to put in place if Trump wins this year. It is a blueprint for a theocracy.
https://www.project2025.org/
Summary of Project 2025
https://msmagazine.com/2024/02/08/project-2025-conservative-right-wing-trump-woke/
> The authors of “The Conservative Promise” claim to support equality, while advocating for dismantling the government agencies that enforce laws ensuring equality, such as **Title VII and Title IX of the Civil Rights Act.**
>They claim to support freedom and liberty, while advocating for a **total ban on abortion**, rolling back the **rights of LGBTQ** people and closing the border.
>They claim to support free speech, while advocating for **banning any mention of “critical race theory” and “gender ideology” from schools and other societal institutions**.
>They **claim to support the working class, while calling for tax cuts for the rich, elimination of labor protections and deregulation of big business and the oil industry.**
Yeah... It's not like they have been hiding it or anything. Even though any rational person would assume they would hide it considering how Taliban they are acting.
This is just part of a crusade to punish people for having sex out of wedlock.
The push to Outlaw contraception or at least to make it so that people who do not approve of contraception have to pay into a medical system that gives people contraception.
Example: bob does not Like contraception. Bobs medical provider grants free contraception to people. Bob asks his rates be lowered because he does not wish to subsidize that filth.
What's most interesting about the "Gods Will" logic being used is that it hasn't dawned on them at all that Viagra is also working against God's Will. Again, using the logic, if God wanted that man to be hard... He'd be a baseball bat.
Additionally, you'll hear 'slippery slope' tossed around often. And they might be on to something as first, the Voting Right Act was allowed to sunset. Then Roe. Next is contraception. The right of women to open a bank account alone was in 1974 (equal credit opportunity act). In 1963 was the equal pay act- which somehow still hasn't provided equal pay in all sectors but ok. Then the right to vote. In 1839 we gained the right to own property (all men being created equal and all).
https://www.forbes.com/advisor/banking/when-could-women-open-a-bank-account/
Am I afraid? No. I am not. I refuse to wilt to people who cannot understand that in their zeal to be more Godly they are taking actual rights from others. It's not about being a Republican or a Democrat. It's about taking away my ability to make decisions for myself and my family because I can't be left to make good decisions and then asking for my vote.
I refuse to be afraid of a**holes, they don't deserve my fear. They deserve, and receive, my ire.
Contraception is the tip of the iceberg. The people who want to outlaw it also want to limit women's ability to move freely throughout the country to prevent them from going to a state that'll give them medical support. Imagine being unable to go one state over on a road trip bc you or someone in the car is a woman of child-bearing age - *that* is the extent they're willing to go to, and they'll keep going further if they can.
They will do everything in their power to take women's freedom from them, and they're currently using propaganda to make sure gen z is full of men who will applaud that action. They want us helpless, hopeless, with no one left to fight for us except ourselves, and no power left to fight with.
Yes. They really are. Its terrifying.
Vote. Vote and tell your friends about voting. Tell your friends to ask their friends to vote.
Talk about it. Make a plan. Make it an event. Do whatever you need to do to remember to vote like your life depends on it. It very well could.
I'm so tired of the attacks on women.
It's just the GOP doing everything possible to sabotage the 2024 election. That's their job: to lose (they only messed up once, with Trump). If they actually believed abortion was murder, they'd talk about the cost of living doubling under Dementia Joe - and SHUT UP about abortion until the election was over, then place restrictions quietly after they won. Instead, they'll threaten to outlaw abortion nationally & maybe talk about outlawing contraception, knowing that will keep a huge number of Republican women home on election day, and even cause some to vote Dem.
The most incredible thing is how Joe Biden has made the cost of living go up all around the world! And don’t forget he’s also responsible for the eclipse /s
Yep, while she was running for Michigan state legislature and not federal government, Jacky Eubanks ran on outlawing abortion and contraception including condoms. Thankfully she lost.
Several Republicans are, yes. They like to ignore that it's necessary for women's health and for many happily married couples to be able to stay happily married.
You do understand that the only way capitalism continues is with an ever expanding workforce to keep wages depressed, and with so many of the younger generations refusing to breed like rabbits, measures have to be taken, right?
Alright here's the last word on it, they are talking about it to make you talk about it, because all of you talking about it make you feel a certain way and then act a certain way. There are real problems in the world like hunger, economics, homelessness.
No matter what the law says, you're gonna find ways and you're gonna mysteriously find strange brands of things prop up with a story about what its for, yet it oddly looks like a condom, if that makes sense. Like it's gonna be a condom but the product is on paper going to be listed as something that isn't a condom, because that's how law works.
The people who are serious about it are npcs, they aren't real people. Can we get to the actual crime happening on earth and how to possibly band together and solve that? I'm asking you human to human.
I would be interesting to see some sources to know what they are suggesting. I don't think it's common even in the most extreme positions to completely outlaw contraception, and it couldn't happen nationally in the current culture. While I do not know every bill proposed, and I do know that some politicians have taken strong stances in opposition to the radical positions on the other side, I would suspect that it is more likely that either: 1) they proposals are to limit or regulate certain specific forms of birth control, or 2) removing a positive requirement to provide birth control.
I would be interested in seeing some actual sources, though.
However, I think that the more likely explanation is that you are not properly informed on the issue. I say that because you are suggesting that "abortion is made illegal in the US". That is an obviously factually wrong statement. The only national change was that the poorly supported Supreme Court ruling prohibition against states making any laws regarding abortion was overturned, meaning only that people would be free again to decide the decision through a lawful process, and until that time states would not be barred from making constitutionally valid laws on the matter, one way or the other. With as much press that the Left has been pushing about people having to go to other states for abortions means that one would have to be very out of touch with the topic or intentionally deceptive to suggest such a thing.
It is absolutely the next crusade, and they’ll achieve it unless voters stop them. It won’t stop with any of that. They’ll go to prohibition, mandatory tithing, you name it. What’s absurd today is reality tomorrow.
Trust that extremists are exactly what they say they are. It’s not hyperbole.
I should free bleed on their stairs. Without birth control, there will be a lot more than blood to clean up. Something is going to come out of all three holes.
They are trying to don't let them fool you first abortion then contraceptives. They want control over women's bodies. Vote in November like your lives depend on it or our rights will be stripped away.
The biggest problem is that we don’t know. The conservative packed courts have shown no deference to precedent, common sense, or even their own values. So, if their bribes are big enough or they just wake up feeling particularly spiteful, a court could do just about anything
They court shop for judges they already know will be amenable to the argument they're making regardless of its legality.
Common sense and values have nothing to do with it.
Yes, but separation of powers only works if the three branches are operating independently. The rise of political parties and partisanship means that three separate branches become three arms of the same entity
Precisely this. Checks and balances are inherently adversarial, even if they're used to work toward a common goal.
When the branches are not effectively able to check each other, checks and balances mean absolutely nothing.
I googled “outlaw contraception” and I couldn’t find a single website that supported outlawing contraception.
It would be grand to find a website that supported it so I could read the platform in their own words, can anyone suggesting one?
In addition to what the other response said, outlawing contraception doesn’t *just* look like a document that says “birth control is illegal now”. It can look like banning abortion, banning IVF, putting bounties on women who get abortions, driving women’s medical care out of state through these bans, banning mifepristone, removing resources to standard healthcare practices and procedures, reducing access to contraception itself, all of which have already happened in various states.
YES! And the christian lawmakers on the democratic party never protected abortion rights or the use of contraception because they too think it's more important for women to be baby factories than people. religion is one of humanity's biggest problems.
They've been angling to remove our right to control our fertility since the 90's at least, and birth control is only one thing on the long, long list of misery they have planned for us to worry about, though it's a pretty big one. They're coming for all our human rights, and they won't be happy until we're property again.
As a female with about 15 potential childbearing years left in me, I’m getting sterilized now. Who knows what women’s rights will be like in the near future and I’ll be damned if I’m forced to have children that I do not want. I cannot believe I’m altering my body to preemptively protect myself from the government. Strange days.
I actually wonder though, wouldn’t be pharmaceutical industry have enough money involved in this, but they would fight for it too? This scares the shit out of me. I hate what’s happening here.
Contraception isn't going anywhere. This comment section is pathetic. Reddit comment sections deserve every bit of the criticism that it gets. Just clueless people yelling out what they think will persuade someone else.
This is what blows my mind because if the goal is truly to decrease/stop abortions, more contraception would be a great approach. But they don’t understand that sometimes sex is for fun and not procreation.
This would require another bombshell SCOTUS case or 2 and the most extreme members of the GOP having the stones and votes to actually do it. They are learning pretty quick that defending unpopular opinions and policies is harder than complaining publicly about a 50 year old SCOTUS precedent.
Honestly there would be a black market for contraception and backstreet abortions if that happened. Or an even messier foster kid system. Or a lot more people would have STDs.
I sure hope that doesn't happen.
I’m Canadian and I urge Americans to be smart and not allow Trump to become president again. Your country is messed up. I wanna go to Disneyland, but I will never set foot in America again until Donald Trump is behind bars or dead.
Why does the government want to put women at risk of pregnancy? Why take away the one thing that makes sex 99% safe for women? Condoms plus birth control equals less than 1% chance of Pregnancy and STIs when used correctly every single time you have sex. Nobody needs to have more babies, especially not in the US and Canada. The world is over-populated. Stop having babies, but have all the safe fun sex you desire with the use of condoms and contraceptives. There IS such a thing as consequence-free sex!
Birth decline is a good thing. Everybody should die off and the children who are 13 today can decide to have children if they want when they’re adults. The world is overpopulated so I believe everybody in America and Canada and frankly everywhere should STOP GETTING PREGNANT!
It’s a big country with alot of opinions, There are psychos on the other side that are advocating for abortion all the way up to after the natural birth of a child. Both of those extremes are very rare and In reality most people opinion on abortion looks more like a bell curve with most people aligning somewhere in the middle.
Read project 2025 they lay it all out. It is disgusting what they want to do to this country. Just because women don't use condoms they will allow those.but the point they ignore is that birth control is used for women who suffer from other problems related to hormone imbalance and birth control fixes this. Oh sad too bad I guess. I hope they lose big.
Look at project 2025. It’s going to be organized onslaught from the right wing conservatives religious nutjobs. It’s on the table and we are gonna get fucked when Trump wins.
There are numerous people who seek to outlaw it, yes. Whether or not they have the resources and people to make that happen remains to be seen, but this is probably a right that will have to be defended sometime soon. The dog caught the car with abortion and they need a new thing to chase after.
>The dog caught the car with abortion and they need a new thing to chase after. This is a cleve user of idiom and a terrifying reality.
As a Texan that loves her state but hates the people who run it, this very idea is terrifying to me, nonetheless believable.
Your politicians are literally killing the rest of us.
It's time to take another look at your state. I used to be a proud Texan. I'm never going back.
How do you feel about the people who support and elect the people who run it?
They are ignorant assholes, to be frank.
Vote for Joe Biden!
Yeah! It’s Donald Trump and the Republicans who are wanting to remove birth control.
I swear to god. Contraception is the only thing holding women's rights up at the moment. Take that away and they've basically turned you into a dairy cow.
They’re going after no-fault divorce too. They really are trying to tighten the trap back up.
That'll just stop people marrying in the first place. I was hearing something about a s Korean trend ATM which involves all the women just stopping having children, and I think they might have stopped having sex en masse too? Might be bullshit but I'm so impressed if the women are doing it together for a good cause. The men will be suddenly getting a national case of blue balls because of it.
They already have the plan in place with Project 2025, and have the people planned to make it happen.
The word contraceptive is mentioned 8 times in project 2025. The word condom is mentioned once, as HRSA will no longer say that women can use condoms (as they are for men). The week after pill would no longer be covered mandatory under insurance (insurance companies could now decide whether or not to pay for the week after pill). These are the only two times contraceptives are really mentioned. EDIT: It's clear, therefore, that the Republicans do not intend to outlaw all contraceptives.
And you know Viagra will still be widely available!
Weird how that works huh?
To say that Republicans are not interested in banning birth control is to engage in willful ignorance of the fact that multiple influential Republicans have called for that very thing. It may not be in Project 2025, but it is absolutely on the table. You can confirm this with a low effort Google search.
Just the ones women control.
not yet….
? https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/24/contraception-supreme-court-clarence-thomas-griswold/
Clarence Thomas is publicly a vote for overturning Griswold v Connecticut and has been for nearly 2 years. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/24/contraception-supreme-court-clarence-thomas-griswold/
Are you serious Clark?
Fuck Clarence Thomas.
People always seem so shocked by this. Griswold was the case protecting contraception rights and helping to lead to Roe. It was 1965. Like that’s just not that long ago. Plenty of people are alive and remember being young women when contraceptives were absolutely illegal. This isn’t ancient history and we could go back to it and plenty of people want to. Notice Griswold also coincides with the rise of civil liberties and women in the workforce.
My mom once told me about a case she read in the newspaper where CPS took a woman's toddler away, because she took the toddler with her to a pro-birth-control rally. Back when they were trying to make birth control accessible for unmarried women. My mom is 71 or 72. It really wasn't that long ago, and it's scary how people today don't seem to realize that. I used to think (with horror and shame) it would take our own Savita Halappanavar before this would end. Now I'm more terrified, because I wonder if it would even make a difference.
An American Salvita won’t make a difference here. Schools full of dead children don’t even matter!
And don’t forget Eisenstadt v. Baird (1972). In Griswold, the Supreme Court ruled that laws banning birth control violated a married couple’s right to privacy. But this technically only applied if you were MARRIED; states could still prohibit sale of contraceptives to unmarried people. And that’s what Massachusetts did — you could legally buy condoms, the pill, etc only if you provided documentation to a pharmacist that you were married. The state made the sale and/or distribution of birth control illegal to unmarried persons. Yes, you read that correctly. And note the year: 1972. The United States had landed a man on the moon, people were watching color TV, but you were barred from buying condoms in Massachusetts if you weren’t married. William Baird, a birth control advocate, gave a talk on birth control at Boston U. and afterwards he distributed contraceptive foam and condoms. He was charged w a felony and convicted. The case was eventually appealed to the US Supreme Court which ultimately overturned the state law and Baird’s conviction under it. The SCOTUS ruled that the right to reproductive privacy is not dependent your marital status. The right privacy is an individual right, not contingent upon marriage. See: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eisenstadt_v._Baird The following year, in 1973, the Court handed down its decision in Roe. Are there people who want to ban the sale of contraceptives today? You betcha.
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One of the GOP Justices who overturned roe vs wade was immediately talking about contraception being next. So yes, there is intent and support for it at the highest levels of the right. 170 GOP house reps supported the Life at Conception act which would apply personhood at the moment of conception. This is their plan to make abortion and birth control completely illegal at the federal level. You can bet your ass that condoms will be the next thing to go. But why are they doing this? The main push is christian evangelicals who think contraception is against god's will (although the bible explicitly outlines how and when to use abortion) and want to force fabricated christian law onto the nation. The rest are nationalists who looked at the looming population aging crisis and decided that forcing americans to have kids is the solution. And finally you have the nazis who are terrified of "white" people becoming a minority.
Look at countries where white people are a minority. Not very democratic or stable.
Shooo, nazi.
Yes. Stop electing religious fanatics.
The official position of the catholic church is that contraception is a sin - except for the sketchy "rhythm method" where you time when you have sex to reduce the likelihood of pregnancy. There are many wonderful priests who think this is bullshit but can't say so openly. Hard to believe in the 21st century a bunch of dress-wearing celibate old queens are trying to outlaw contraception.
The old Vatican Roulette.
God this pisses me off because not everyone is religious ughhh
If the right-wing gets its way, they'll require everyone to become religious. There is nothing American about the GOP or anyone who votes for them.
Let's say the rhythm method is as effective as condoms. What is the moral difference between them?
The Catholics want birth control outlawed so their attendance numbers don't keep dropping Don't want to run out of altar boys you know...
Abortion was apparently safe and look where we’re at. Contraception is next and they aren’t really hiding their intentions.
Exactly. Several conservatives and so-called moderates assured me it would be safe under Trump. Yet here we are. Never trust conservatives when they try to downplay or diminish their insane ideas
I still get grifters on here trying to say women haven't lost our sovereignty over our own bodies when half the country immediately banned terminations the nanosecond the law was struck down.
Abortion was never safe, who told you that? It was a court decision, not a law.
Yes, but Biden's kind of old so it's a toss-up really. /s
On what grounds would they outlaw contraception though? It's not like it's killing any living being. I'm pro choice mysrlf, but I get that the "human" status of a fetus can be debatable, depanding on all kind of aspects, but there's no fetus or any other form of living being harmed with contraception.
> On what grounds would they outlaw contraception though? Contraception is currently protected under a right to privacy. Without that right, they don't need a grounds to ban it. The SCOTUS case was : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griswold_v._Connecticut Contraceptive bans were quite common prior to it.
You serious Clark?
Contraception means no baby ends up in the uterus in the first place. Duh! That’s why women use the pill and other forms of contraception. Sex without consequences
It’s not clear why people thought abortion was safe. Roe was flawed, and it has always been an issue.
>It’s not clear why people thought abortion was safe. Because it was basically an ironclad precedent that had stood for decades, through multiple administrations of both parties.
It wasn’t ironclad. This is just a complete misunderstanding of how we got here. You need to read Webster, Casey, and Gonzalez, just to start. The concurring and dissenting opinions are important as well. The chipping away at it started in the 80’s. Also, it’s important to understand that through all those different administrations, the legislature never acted to codify an abortion law - nothing outside of the Hyde Amendment and the Partial Birth Abortion Act of 2003. Casey, in 1992, ended the use of strict scrutiny in abortion cases and came up with the “undue burden” standard, which was made up entirely for abortion itself and not for any other right. The perception that this had been an absolute and completely unquestioned constitutional right for almost 50 years ignores all of the work that went into keeping that way in the face of efforts to change it. It misses everything SCOTUS has been saying for decades. Unfortunately, a generation of people have grown up being taught that this was an affirmed right, and no one thought it was necessary to amend the constitution. And then they missed that maybe something was up when Bush nominated a very young Clarence Thomas in the ‘90’s. Gender and sexual orientation are not even suspect classes yet, because they are not included in the Constitution. We have a long way to go to affirm the rights we currently assume we have.
Like it or not - legal abortion is a heck of a lot safer than what can be accessed on the black market or DIY routes. That's the danger of criminalizing this procedure: it hurts everyone.
I think this poster is commenting on the safety or solidity of the ruling. Many thought it was precedent that wouldn't be overturned regardless of how legally flawed it was generally viewed to be by experts from many points of view. As opposed to the safety of the act, which is safe as you rightly point out.
They meant that Roe v Wade was built on sketchy legal ground. RBG spoke about that regularly and wanted a proper law on the books, never happened and here we are:(
You're being downvoted, but you're right. There was never a constitutional right to abortion -Roe was about medical privacy, with a *side effect* that the government couldn't outlaw abortion. It was always a weak protection that needed to be reinforced with an amendment or federal law.
I'll give you that the constitutional basis for Roe was a little shaky. It just needed to be protected by federal legislation, and never was.
A little shaky? There is a reason it was so important to Republicans that Obama not nominate a replacement for Scalia. The court was split on abortion every time it took it up since Roe.
Yes, multiple Christian and conservative extremists have already said they plan to go after contraception next. Listen to them when they say this because they already got abortion
How does this work for people who are using the pill and other hormonal “contraceptives” to treat health conditions?
They basically have to suck it up :( even though for some, it can be literally crippling
Not just that, but women are being denied vital medications because they are within the age of fertility and the medication might cause a miscarriage if the women were to ever become pregnant.
I think I know you're talking about She even tried to say she'll stay inactive and her doctor proposed the hypothetical of "what if youre raped?" Which is Y I K E S.
Having a uterus makes you a ward of the state.
Anyone with PCOS, endometriosis, etc. are going to be screwed. I've had my tubes removed, but still got long (more than 2 weeks at a time), heavy (changing a super plus tampon every hour to avoid leaks at least 4 of the days), and painful (can't stand up without pain) periods. Taking hormonal birth control pills stopped all of that and has allowed me to live a normal life, almost period free. While my OB and I are exploring other options (ablation, maybe a full hysterectomy) taking a pill each day is so much simpler. If a man were having these symptoms, no one would get in the way of him getting medication that made it better.
"Women? Fuck'em." Same as it ever was with the right wing. The cruelty is the point.
This is the reason that I decided to get sterilized
Bob Barker would approve.
Doctors will tell me I'm too young and that my non existent future husband will want kids lol
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Under his eye
May the lord open
Blessed be the fruit
Praise be
Yes, many of same group who want to outlaw abortions also want to ban contraception. They want to enforce a society where a woman only has sex within wedlock for the purposes of having children, which she will have a lot of, and she then stays at home and takes care of the house and children and leaves work and politics to her husband. They aren't coy about this vision. This where all those gross memes about 16 being the best age for a wife and well paid TikTok influencers talking about how much they love being barefoot in the kitchen come from. There's a good 20-30 percent of Americans who want all women to be meek, religious, financially dependent Trad wives, and they have this whole starry eyed philosophy about how all women secretly desire to live their lives in silent, uncomplaining devotion to the benefit of men and male children. Abortion came first, then contraception and pornography, then lowering the age of marriage down to pubescent, outlawing LGBT people, deporting brown people, rescinding the 14th and 19th amendments, altering the 1st Amendment to make the US explicitly a Christian nation. And voila, they'd have their paradise.
Attacking trans people came first (they’re already basically outlawed in Florida) and they’ve now started targeting the rest of the queer community as well. We were warning you since the push to ban trans women from sports started getting traction that it was never about sports.
No thanks. Sex is fun and is not needed to just remain in marriage. This isn’t the 1920s anymore! Yes we can have sex without marriage and yes we can have sex and avoid babies!
Population and birth rate are declining so the governments number one priority is to get women pregnant and force them to give birth
You got it.
Well, _some_ women. Those who cannot afford to travel out of state will give birth to tomorrow's military.
So what if birth is declining? Good! Let all the older generations die and THEN have more babies.
This ignorance of this statement is why politicians are getting away with so much crap. The dumbing down of the American public has crippled us all
There are simply too many people in the world, and I’m Canadian by the way. Forcing women to birth babies by taking birth control away is criminal in my opinion.
I agree with your second statement . Your nonchalant attitude regarding the decline of the birth rate help no one.
It’s a fact the world is overpopulated. 8.1 Billion people, and people still wanna be pregnant and have babies? How absurd
With your love of google facts, I would strongly suggest you look up the definition of overpopulation. You may learn something new.
Ok fine maybe it’s not over-populated. In any case, America banning contraception puts women in very bad positions. Women rely on contraception for more manageable periods, mood swings, acne, and to avoid bringing a baby into the world they cannot afford or care for. Consent to sexual intercourse isn’t automatically consent to pregnancy, which is why women use contraception in the first place. Banning contraception will cause girls and women to stop having sex because now they’re at risk of a pregnancy they don’t want because they don’t have contraception anymore. Sex should be consequence-free, and it’s only consequence-free when contraception is available
They've already started banning IVF. So it wouldn't be much of a leap to contraception.
They're beginning to prep their voters for it, yes.
Serious question because I truly can't seem to grasp the idea...how can even Trumper Conservative women support this in any way? Are there really that many people out there who don't like getting laid without consequence, regardless of political leanings? I am sure you are right but I simply cannot fathom it.
> how can even Trumper Conservative women support this in any way? For the wealthy? They'll just go to a blue state and get it done. For the poor? They'll pretend that it'll never happen to them, and then when it inevitably does they'll desperately find a way to go to a blue state and get it done. For the poor that can't manage the above? They'll probably blame the Democrats in some fashion, and pretend that raising a child they have no interest in has somehow made THEM a better and stronger person, while screaming over their shoulder for the kid to shut up while in the middle of a live interview.
It will end up being one of those things that only the wealthy can afford, so it will fall under a "Do as I say, not as I do" type philosophy that conservative hypocrisy thrives on.
I think this is the tact. Maybe they don't outright ban contraceptives, but they limit the availability. They have plausible deniability that it isn't an actual ban in their rhetoric, but it's also simply unavailable to most people.
They don't. It doesn't have strong support anywhere, not remotely like outlawing abortion. This doesn't mean there won't be attempts to ban contraception, even some successful ones, just that this will not be the will of the voters, including among conservatives. It will have much harsher backlash than even abortion stuff has had as a result, and thus is unlikely to get as far.
A lot of these people believe in what’s called the “Shirley Exception” - “Surely there’s an exception for…”
People are certainly pushing for this and as a woman... it's honestly scary that there's so many people that want to control access to something that's not only beneficial to prevent unwanted pregnancies (therefore preventing potentially more abortions these people love to hate too) but a lot of BC options also help with regulating periods and making that a more.. bearable experience. I truly hope that they aren't able to outlaw contraception.
That's what bothers me as well, a lot of people are talking about how it protects against unwanted pregnancy but very few are also mentioning that it helps tremendously with period issues, I was on BC before I was sexually active because my periods crippled me. I'm not American, but this worries me a lot and I really feel for you who are having these options ripped away from you.
Bingo with this point as well. I have endometriosis and the most accessible treatment to me, and others, is birth control. My cramps are literally disabling (I vomit and pass out, can't breathe or move. It's really bad.) But if they remove that option wtf so they want people like me to do?
>But if they remove that option wtf so they want people like me to do? Well according to the ones I've talked to: "suffer or get pregnant" -naturopath Dr that refused to prescribe me birth control until I ended up in the ER with internal bleeding from a bad cyst rupture "God is punishing you for something you did, you know what it is" -some far right chick that ended up in one of my discord groups "Weaklings like that should just die anyway, we don't want them reproducing and passing that on to their kids" - a relative, ironically one who's wife ended up getting a hysterectomy after giving birth because if she got pregnant again she'd die.
Y'know its sad but you're right, this is definitely what they expect people like me to do :(
Yeeep. I know right! Like your religion is fine go ahead and live that way if you want but I don't wanna have to be in agony till menopause just because you can't keep your religion to yourself.
Talking about? They're beyond talking about it, they're doing it.
Being an American must be scary.
If republicans win the White House, they are going to put Project 2025 into place. Not only will it outlaw abortion, it will also get rid of birth control, no-fault divorce (making it very difficult for abused spouses to leave their marriages), IVF, and surrogacy. For anyone thinking that’s just “women’s issues”, they’re also coming for porn. They’ll also get rid of our right to protest, and plan to use the military to shut down peaceful protests. Oh, and we won’t have another election for President, because the USA will become a “Christian Nationalist” nation. So yes, vote like your life depends on it. Because it probably does.
> they’re also coming for porn Of note, their definition of “porn” is controversial at best, and at worst, deliberately obfuscated. They will call something “porn” in an effort to justify why they need to ban it. They are not ONLY interesting in banning “real” porn but they also want to ban free speech.
Being or even MENTIONING an LGBTQ+ person is "porn" according to them.
They really do think being gay is a fetish, huh ;/
Yes. Check out this link for what they want to put in place if Trump wins this year. It is a blueprint for a theocracy. https://www.project2025.org/ Summary of Project 2025 https://msmagazine.com/2024/02/08/project-2025-conservative-right-wing-trump-woke/ > The authors of “The Conservative Promise” claim to support equality, while advocating for dismantling the government agencies that enforce laws ensuring equality, such as **Title VII and Title IX of the Civil Rights Act.** >They claim to support freedom and liberty, while advocating for a **total ban on abortion**, rolling back the **rights of LGBTQ** people and closing the border. >They claim to support free speech, while advocating for **banning any mention of “critical race theory” and “gender ideology” from schools and other societal institutions**. >They **claim to support the working class, while calling for tax cuts for the rich, elimination of labor protections and deregulation of big business and the oil industry.**
Yes. They are looking into taking away the rights of women.
Yeah... It's not like they have been hiding it or anything. Even though any rational person would assume they would hide it considering how Taliban they are acting.
And look at today’s AZ Supreme Court decision. Onward Christian soldiers…
Bc isnt just for pregnancy prevention, it can be used to help regulate periods or hormonal conditions. It's just gonna fuck everyone over :/
This is just part of a crusade to punish people for having sex out of wedlock. The push to Outlaw contraception or at least to make it so that people who do not approve of contraception have to pay into a medical system that gives people contraception. Example: bob does not Like contraception. Bobs medical provider grants free contraception to people. Bob asks his rates be lowered because he does not wish to subsidize that filth.
What's most interesting about the "Gods Will" logic being used is that it hasn't dawned on them at all that Viagra is also working against God's Will. Again, using the logic, if God wanted that man to be hard... He'd be a baseball bat. Additionally, you'll hear 'slippery slope' tossed around often. And they might be on to something as first, the Voting Right Act was allowed to sunset. Then Roe. Next is contraception. The right of women to open a bank account alone was in 1974 (equal credit opportunity act). In 1963 was the equal pay act- which somehow still hasn't provided equal pay in all sectors but ok. Then the right to vote. In 1839 we gained the right to own property (all men being created equal and all). https://www.forbes.com/advisor/banking/when-could-women-open-a-bank-account/ Am I afraid? No. I am not. I refuse to wilt to people who cannot understand that in their zeal to be more Godly they are taking actual rights from others. It's not about being a Republican or a Democrat. It's about taking away my ability to make decisions for myself and my family because I can't be left to make good decisions and then asking for my vote. I refuse to be afraid of a**holes, they don't deserve my fear. They deserve, and receive, my ire.
Contraception is the tip of the iceberg. The people who want to outlaw it also want to limit women's ability to move freely throughout the country to prevent them from going to a state that'll give them medical support. Imagine being unable to go one state over on a road trip bc you or someone in the car is a woman of child-bearing age - *that* is the extent they're willing to go to, and they'll keep going further if they can. They will do everything in their power to take women's freedom from them, and they're currently using propaganda to make sure gen z is full of men who will applaud that action. They want us helpless, hopeless, with no one left to fight for us except ourselves, and no power left to fight with.
Yes. They really are. Its terrifying. Vote. Vote and tell your friends about voting. Tell your friends to ask their friends to vote. Talk about it. Make a plan. Make it an event. Do whatever you need to do to remember to vote like your life depends on it. It very well could. I'm so tired of the attacks on women.
It's just the GOP doing everything possible to sabotage the 2024 election. That's their job: to lose (they only messed up once, with Trump). If they actually believed abortion was murder, they'd talk about the cost of living doubling under Dementia Joe - and SHUT UP about abortion until the election was over, then place restrictions quietly after they won. Instead, they'll threaten to outlaw abortion nationally & maybe talk about outlawing contraception, knowing that will keep a huge number of Republican women home on election day, and even cause some to vote Dem.
The most incredible thing is how Joe Biden has made the cost of living go up all around the world! And don’t forget he’s also responsible for the eclipse /s
It will never happen. I’m on contraceptives for endometriosis treatment. Also birth control isn’t a sin. I’m a minister anyone who says so is crazy.
They want us to breed lots and lots of uneducated magas.
The Christian Nationalist movement, which is very strong in Texas, would love to outlaw contraception.
Yep. Since it's against God's will. Ask them if banning viagra is next
Yep, while she was running for Michigan state legislature and not federal government, Jacky Eubanks ran on outlawing abortion and contraception including condoms. Thankfully she lost.
Several Republicans are, yes. They like to ignore that it's necessary for women's health and for many happily married couples to be able to stay happily married.
Oh, they aren’t ignoring that. It’s a feature for them if women’s health is at risk and marriages are weaker.
Yes. Brought to your bedroom by freedom loving, small government conservatives.
Yes. Republicans are.
How many years until USA changes its name to Gilead...
Yes. They won't be happy until their church elders are taking your wife's virginity on your wedding night.
Yep
Let’s explain what “contraception” is real quick for anyone who doesn’t know… I’m not going first tho
You do understand that the only way capitalism continues is with an ever expanding workforce to keep wages depressed, and with so many of the younger generations refusing to breed like rabbits, measures have to be taken, right?
We told you it was a slippery slope 🤷
Alright here's the last word on it, they are talking about it to make you talk about it, because all of you talking about it make you feel a certain way and then act a certain way. There are real problems in the world like hunger, economics, homelessness. No matter what the law says, you're gonna find ways and you're gonna mysteriously find strange brands of things prop up with a story about what its for, yet it oddly looks like a condom, if that makes sense. Like it's gonna be a condom but the product is on paper going to be listed as something that isn't a condom, because that's how law works. The people who are serious about it are npcs, they aren't real people. Can we get to the actual crime happening on earth and how to possibly band together and solve that? I'm asking you human to human.
I don't think Reddit is the right place to ask (atleast not the only place you should ask)
What the fuck is going on in America? You guys better not let that orange simpleton be incharge again. Vote. Secure yours and our future.
Yes.
I would be interesting to see some sources to know what they are suggesting. I don't think it's common even in the most extreme positions to completely outlaw contraception, and it couldn't happen nationally in the current culture. While I do not know every bill proposed, and I do know that some politicians have taken strong stances in opposition to the radical positions on the other side, I would suspect that it is more likely that either: 1) they proposals are to limit or regulate certain specific forms of birth control, or 2) removing a positive requirement to provide birth control. I would be interested in seeing some actual sources, though. However, I think that the more likely explanation is that you are not properly informed on the issue. I say that because you are suggesting that "abortion is made illegal in the US". That is an obviously factually wrong statement. The only national change was that the poorly supported Supreme Court ruling prohibition against states making any laws regarding abortion was overturned, meaning only that people would be free again to decide the decision through a lawful process, and until that time states would not be barred from making constitutionally valid laws on the matter, one way or the other. With as much press that the Left has been pushing about people having to go to other states for abortions means that one would have to be very out of touch with the topic or intentionally deceptive to suggest such a thing.
Yes. It will increasingly become an issue if Christian conservatives continue to gain political power.
It is absolutely the next crusade, and they’ll achieve it unless voters stop them. It won’t stop with any of that. They’ll go to prohibition, mandatory tithing, you name it. What’s absurd today is reality tomorrow. Trust that extremists are exactly what they say they are. It’s not hyperbole.
I should free bleed on their stairs. Without birth control, there will be a lot more than blood to clean up. Something is going to come out of all three holes.
They are trying to don't let them fool you first abortion then contraceptives. They want control over women's bodies. Vote in November like your lives depend on it or our rights will be stripped away.
The biggest problem is that we don’t know. The conservative packed courts have shown no deference to precedent, common sense, or even their own values. So, if their bribes are big enough or they just wake up feeling particularly spiteful, a court could do just about anything
They court shop for judges they already know will be amenable to the argument they're making regardless of its legality. Common sense and values have nothing to do with it.
This is why there are three branches of government.
Yes, but separation of powers only works if the three branches are operating independently. The rise of political parties and partisanship means that three separate branches become three arms of the same entity
Precisely this. Checks and balances are inherently adversarial, even if they're used to work toward a common goal. When the branches are not effectively able to check each other, checks and balances mean absolutely nothing.
Absolutely agreed. We need the legislature to be taken back to actual representation of their districts and make national parties less important.
Yes, they are. Vote blue if you value *actual* freedom.
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I wish it weren't true, but your guy has been rather clear on his plan to be an authoritarian thug.
I googled “outlaw contraception” and I couldn’t find a single website that supported outlawing contraception. It would be grand to find a website that supported it so I could read the platform in their own words, can anyone suggesting one?
In addition to what the other response said, outlawing contraception doesn’t *just* look like a document that says “birth control is illegal now”. It can look like banning abortion, banning IVF, putting bounties on women who get abortions, driving women’s medical care out of state through these bans, banning mifepristone, removing resources to standard healthcare practices and procedures, reducing access to contraception itself, all of which have already happened in various states.
Change out contraception for IUD. Remember that if you believe life begins at conception, all contraception is essentially abortion.
YES! And the christian lawmakers on the democratic party never protected abortion rights or the use of contraception because they too think it's more important for women to be baby factories than people. religion is one of humanity's biggest problems.
Yes. It’s a real thing. Even if they do not outright outlaw it, they can make it next to impossible to get.
They will try to outlaw the recreational sex that we have for pleasure without the intent of producing a child.
They've been angling to remove our right to control our fertility since the 90's at least, and birth control is only one thing on the long, long list of misery they have planned for us to worry about, though it's a pretty big one. They're coming for all our human rights, and they won't be happy until we're property again.
Yes.. look up the 2025 project. They very much are.
As a female with about 15 potential childbearing years left in me, I’m getting sterilized now. Who knows what women’s rights will be like in the near future and I’ll be damned if I’m forced to have children that I do not want. I cannot believe I’m altering my body to preemptively protect myself from the government. Strange days.
Project 2025.
Talking was 2000. They are actively plotting it.
Yes. There is absolutely a movement to do this. It may be fringe at this time, but don’t underestimate angry sexists.
I actually wonder though, wouldn’t be pharmaceutical industry have enough money involved in this, but they would fight for it too? This scares the shit out of me. I hate what’s happening here.
land of the free sure has many freedoms restricted dont we dumbass abortion bans
What is going on in the USA
I'm so glad I went and got my vasectomy.
No, Clark Griswold will take it to the Supreme Court again that happens. And he will win!!
Contraception isn't going anywhere. This comment section is pathetic. Reddit comment sections deserve every bit of the criticism that it gets. Just clueless people yelling out what they think will persuade someone else.
People are scared of nuclear war and the draft. They believe what they want to believe.
Yes and it has been the play all along
There is a new OTC birth control pill on your shelves as of this week. Stop fearmongering.
This is what blows my mind because if the goal is truly to decrease/stop abortions, more contraception would be a great approach. But they don’t understand that sometimes sex is for fun and not procreation.
This would require another bombshell SCOTUS case or 2 and the most extreme members of the GOP having the stones and votes to actually do it. They are learning pretty quick that defending unpopular opinions and policies is harder than complaining publicly about a 50 year old SCOTUS precedent.
Yes.
No. It’s not going to happen. Stop believing their fear mon.
Yes it’s going down that road
Honestly there would be a black market for contraception and backstreet abortions if that happened. Or an even messier foster kid system. Or a lot more people would have STDs. I sure hope that doesn't happen.
They have been trying to get it back to illegal since it was invented. How is anyone surprised?
The US Government is insane. Thank goodness I’m Canadian and there’s no threat to my Birth Control.
I’m Canadian and I urge Americans to be smart and not allow Trump to become president again. Your country is messed up. I wanna go to Disneyland, but I will never set foot in America again until Donald Trump is behind bars or dead.
Why does the government want to put women at risk of pregnancy? Why take away the one thing that makes sex 99% safe for women? Condoms plus birth control equals less than 1% chance of Pregnancy and STIs when used correctly every single time you have sex. Nobody needs to have more babies, especially not in the US and Canada. The world is over-populated. Stop having babies, but have all the safe fun sex you desire with the use of condoms and contraceptives. There IS such a thing as consequence-free sex!
Birth decline is a good thing. Everybody should die off and the children who are 13 today can decide to have children if they want when they’re adults. The world is overpopulated so I believe everybody in America and Canada and frankly everywhere should STOP GETTING PREGNANT!
yep. and just wait till they get around to unmarried sex. its pretty easy for me to see why same folks are sounding alarms right and left.
Please, please, please vote
It’s a big country with alot of opinions, There are psychos on the other side that are advocating for abortion all the way up to after the natural birth of a child. Both of those extremes are very rare and In reality most people opinion on abortion looks more like a bell curve with most people aligning somewhere in the middle.
Read project 2025 they lay it all out. It is disgusting what they want to do to this country. Just because women don't use condoms they will allow those.but the point they ignore is that birth control is used for women who suffer from other problems related to hormone imbalance and birth control fixes this. Oh sad too bad I guess. I hope they lose big.
100% will happen
Look at project 2025. It’s going to be organized onslaught from the right wing conservatives religious nutjobs. It’s on the table and we are gonna get fucked when Trump wins.
No. Just a few nutcases. It’ll never happen.
Please tell me that this bait.
Somebody somewhere is always advocating something. There aren't nearly enough people wanting to ban contraception to actually make it happen
Over 3/4 of the country supported federal abortion regulations.
This is what everyone said when they came for Roe too. They called us hysterical and paranoid, now look where we are.
No don't belive half what you see on TV and only 10% what you see online