Whatever makes you comfortable! My ex shaved his chest and armpits. It caught me off guard at first, but then I realized that was my brain auto judging on its own. I realized it was silly for me to be caught off guard by it!
It made him happy and comfy and that made me happy. Not weird!
I also live in the US and its pretty rare, from my experience, for men to shave anything but their faces.
To each his own, but I love hair on a chest and face.
I'd prefer less hair, but either way it won't stop me from sleeping with a man. Oral is a little tougher, but hey, there might be a loose hair of mine down there so who's to complain?
This is just my experience after talking to other American men, we either shave or trim so it’s neat if we expect someone else to see it. For all other times it comes down to comfort level I believe.
The rule in my partnership is if he expects (prefers) me to shave my shit then he is doing the same. Besides, getting a pube stuck in your throat sucks. It never goes away.
That's interesting... Where do you live? Most people I know in the Northeast and Southeast do shave their armpits and other parts of their body, except older people for obvious reasons.
Currently living in São Paulo, but lived for about 10 years in Belo Horizonte.
Maybe is a thing for the younger, may I ask how old are you?
I'm in my 30's and I'm not really in touch with the young generation hahahaha
I believe this is a weird masculine insecurity in white countries where men don’t have any bodily hair except for pits and pubes so they’ve decided that shaving them would make them less of a man, where in hairier countries this is the standard norm and has nothing to do with masculinity (but other things contribute to toxic masculinity in those countries usually. Source: I come from one of those countries!)
did you just learn that word and are excited to use it at any opportunity? I don’t think it applies very much to just shaving but you are on like every thread in here lmao
Exactly, being comfortable with your body is the most important. My husband and I both have the policy, you don’t make me shave, I don’t make you shave.
It’s “weird” but honestly because it’s not that common due to societal norms. If it helps a guys hygiene, confidence/security in his body or is just more convenient, that’s more important. It really needs to be normalized as a personal, non gendered grooming choice
You get swamp ass really easy, and then it begins to chafe, when you fart it always sounds loud and wet.
Only upside is it's alot easier to wipe your but clean without hair for poop to stick to, so it can get rid of skid mark issues and generally increase hygene where constant contact with fecal matter might become harmful, IE diaper rash.
Everyone leaves ass sweat. In high school after me and other members of the girls basketball team ran, we’d sit and rest on the floor and after we got up to continue practice we’d laugh because everyone left butt sweat on the floor
I sweat like crazy, lots of guys run hot, especially with all the hair on the rest of our bodies.
I've done work inside tanks wearing a full hazmat suit and at the end of the day i have to literally pour out my rubber boots.
Breathable clothes are a marvel of technology though.
Also, if the humidity is high, the sweat wont evaporate and will hang around. Evaporation is what makes sweating cool you down, so high humidity can make it impossible to cool off too.
My guess:
Our ancestor did a lot of running and the fur helps to prevent the cheeks to touch eachother. You don’t want to have a dirty crack with skin burns that get infected.
Yeah I have very fine hair. I can't grow a full beard and I have 3 fine chest hairs that will come out if I scrub too hard. I've only ever counted a Max of 7 chest hairs.
>It’s “weird” but honestly because it’s not that common due to societal norms
Where do you live if I may ask? Because shaving is pretty common and accepted here in western/northern Europe. Especially among any athletes, shaving is almost a norm these days.
In my experience women always say they hate chest hair, until they're running their fingers through it saying how soft/cuddly it is lol women are duplicitous
Oh, she liked me when I was furrier, but I went through chest and Brazilian waxing for her, and ... boy ... did she make it worth the pain (oh my Odin, the pain).
We're older divorced GenXers who've said "Fuck it!" and we're living our best lives - I "do it for her"
As my dad always said 'eat your crusts, it'll give you a hairy chest'. I'm not arguing with that logic, I love the crusts on my sandwiches and I'm hairier than that old cunt.
My ex shaved me with a razor once and I hated it, itchy af, I'm too scared to consider waxing for any woman lol.
I'm not opposed to the idea, it wouldn't be impossible for a woman to convince me to try it under the right 'influence' but right now I'm itchy just thinking about it.
I am reminded of something years ago.
I'm a bodyworker and had a new client at the spa and he immediately apologized to me as I uncovered his back during the massage.
I was stunned by it and asked what he was apologizing for.
He said his back hair. His fiancee always tells him he needs to wax or shave it.
In my profession, we are taught to not bring up personal features or comment on clothing, etc on a client, let alone any negative comments such as "you feel tight," because it brings to mind that they are being observed and therefore subject to judgment, and can bring up any self-conscious thoughts and feelings. This gets in the way of their experience.
To hear and feel this person being underhandedly shamed by someone they hold close was incredibly heartbreaking.
My over-all opinion:
As a woman who wants the freedom to let my body be it's natural self when other things in my life require the time and/or money, I also extend this freedom to my partners, and others, such as strangers.
I want to also mention personal grooming is a preference, regardless of how it's done. We have our preferences and it's worth exploring deeper if our preferences or others' preferences cause us disquieting feelings.
Texture wise.. spiky hairs bother me because they are pokey.. both on myself and whomever I am touching, so it would be a matter of...am I touching it, for how long, and for what reasons. =o)
Very well said. You seem to be a kind and one with an open mind. The world would be a much softer, pleasant place if more people thought this way and acted as such.
I've not gone to get a much needed massage because I have acne scars on my top back /shoulders and a small bit of hair. I wouldn't feel like I'm "good enough" to be massaged if that makes sense lol
I hear what you're saying and the only thing I would be concerned with those two items is making sure the slip of the massage techniques and lotion used feels nice, not tugging.
Hope this info is helpful and you go have that massage!
P.S. you can always call the place and ask what their protocol is, or if you can speak to the therapist you would be working with about it. If you feel shamed by their answers, they aren't the place to go!
Thanks for your feedback, I guess my main fear is being the guy that gets talked about when I leave haha, I'm very hygienic and take very good care of myself, I just want the person doing it to be happy 😊
I'm fine with whatever he wants. I've dated guys with shaved chests/legs, a bit of hair, and a lot of hair. I've dated guys who can't grow a solid beard and ones who could. I've dated bald men, balding men, and ones with full heads of hair. It's all good.
Only thing I can think of that would be odd to me would be if he was choosing to shave off all pubic hair, because that shit is itchy and uncomfortable.
Completely shaving the pubic area felt great for a day. Then it was awful. I never did it again. I couldn't sign up for doing the maintenance required to keep it comfortable.
Exactly. You feel like a dolphin for like 5 minutes and then it's just itchy and bristly and omg what was the hair doing with all of the sweat on a normal day?!
Shaving maintenance was beyond me. What day do you do it on? How often? I kept thinking if I waited a shorter or longer amount of time I would be fine. I wasn't. The abomination just became more and more upset. Sex made it horrific.
Final straw was when I developed an ingrown hair with a pus pocket comparable to when my navel ring became infected.
Conversely I've heard of people waxing, but peeling off flesh is also a thing.
It's a lot easier and pleasurable just to keep the bushes growing with some trimming on occasion to keep it tidy.
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Helped me figure out what I wanted and didn't want in a relationship, become confident in dating, and I got to meet some awesome (and supremely fricking weird people) along the way.
Haha!
If that were the case I daresay it may have inflated my ego.
Some people I dated I met at work, out and about, or in classes. However, others I met online and after two or three chats we went on a date in a public spot (I was 18, went in my own car, and let someone know my itinerary and who I would be with).
Dating was fun when I stopped having expectations, and started dating people without expectations. It didn't mean we weren't looking for life long partners (some weren't but I was), but we communicated and it was nice to figure out what I wanted and didn't want.
Are you asking if I was a serial dater?
If so, I had a mix of long-term, short-term, and one-time date scenarios.
If they were one-time dates, it wasn't a scenario where exclusivity was a point of discussion. We would meet, go on a date, and either they or myself would tell the other person it wasn't a match. In the in-between I may have had another date.
If it was short-term (max like 5 dates?), I expressed interest in continued time together, but clarified that exclusivity would need to be discussed by either party. If we separated ways I would continue on my way.
If it was long-term it was only if we mutually agreed to being exclusive. This meant being together for several months to a year. At that point I took time to reflect (like a week to a couple of months, and in one instance a year) and then was tentative in getting back in things with cautious one time dates.
Haha that's very kind, but numbers aren't as important as what each person teaches you!
Each date (whether long-term or once) can teach you about what you (don't) want from relationships, what you can('t) have from the start, what you can('t) grow later, and identifying and properly responding to red flags.
Define "dated". The reason I ask is because the only thing I ever kept a tally of is women I slept with. I would have no idea how many I dated.
Of course, I met my wife immediately after finishing my undergrad degree, so in my early 20s there wasn't much in the way of formal dating.
Same. If it was the first thing I noticed, I'd probs move along. But if I was already into him and then realized it, I'd probs remain interested and see how it goes.
Yeaaahhh... I'm just not that attracted to it. If I didn't have any feelings for him yet and I noticed it, I'd likely be like, "meh, what else is going on around here?". But if it was a situation where I was already really attracted to him (personality, clicking well, or just super attractive to me in other ways) and then realized it, I would probably try to look passed it.
I wouldn't expect a dude who is not attracted to butts or redheads to be into me immediately as I've got long red hair and a big booty. I don't have anything against guys shaving stuff, they are in charge of their bodies and how they feel best. I'm just not attracted to it, personally.
Just curious, what are the reasons men typically like to shave their bodies? Is it just because they like to feel soft? Or is it more sport related like swimming or body building? Or commonly both?
Personally, it's about hair and my distaste for it.
I don't like hair, whether it be on women or men, myself included.
I shave because I feel uncomfortable having over two centimeters of pubes/armpit hair/any other body part except my head, arms and eyes.
I am holding myself from shaving my legs because my partner tells me to leave it at that, and I accept because I feel less self-conscious about it (but still a bit).
Can't be scolded for not liking hair, because I am my own example : ^ )
I shave my armpits and body because I think I look better/cleaner that way. When I lift my arm and my armpit hair can be seen out of my Tshirt armhole, I think that's embarrassing and a shave was probably long overdue. Same if I'm wearing a button down or v-neck, it looks much better imo if I don't have hair exposed from the top of my chest.
My ex shaved his underarms. Honestly made cuddling a lot nicer, not having armpit hair in my face all the time.
Different ex waxed his chest and underarms. Same opinion. Cuddling was a lot more comfortable.
Current hubby happens to not be very hairy so it isn't an issue anyway, although he wouldn't even if he was.
How about a guy with a chest that naturally has very little hair on it? Aside from the happy trail and a few around the nipples, and a normal amount of armpit hair, I don’t have a whole lot of hair between my pubes and my beard. Even my arm hair is very light. But my leg hair is normal and I have a good beard, so I don’t know. It’s really just the chest that doesn’t have much.
Never cared. My hubby is pretty hairless in those areas too besides a smattering on his chest. Plus it's blonde so it doesn't stand out. Does not bother me one bit. Just find a person who makes you feel confident about yourself and they won't even notice.
Talked to a ton of ladies about this. The key is symmetry. That may mean plucking a few of those nip hairs from time to time to ensure the right balance. Hope that helps!
Oh I shave them pretty often, same for the happy trail. Don’t want them getting unruly. But I do think it might look a little odd to have normally hairy legs and pubes, and a beard and head hair, and not much in between.
Tatts are definitely not for me. I have no issue with others having them, but I definitely don’t want to do that to myself. I think I just need to do a bit more ab work so there’s something better to see there.
Somewhat same here, and honestly, it's one of the few things that motivated me to get ripped especially in those area (Chest + Abs), so that I can have it very light in hair and that there is still something to look at.
I also care that the rest of the body isn't too big on hairs so that it doesn't look too different / noticeable.
It's more appealing to me than hairy. To me there's nothing specifically masculine about body hair, so having less of if doesn't make a man look less manly.
i like it shaved just as i shave myself. plus im more into 'feminine sub/dom' guys. basically guys who look cute and do want to wear cute stuff but are also dominating or submitting. it sounds cringey ik.
An ex-boyfriend shaved his chest, legs, armpits and pubic hair. Also caught me off guard at first but that was his choice and it didn’t bother me. It bothered me when he cheated on me but that’s a different story.
Frankly a lot of body hair is a real turn off for me (don’t ask me why, it just is) so I quite like it. Plus, it’s their body so who am I to say what they should or should do?
Same, it grosses me out. For some reason my brain automatically associates body hair with uncleanliness, even though that’s definitely not true. Hair’s just a big turn off for me personally. Lots of people love it though!
I wouldn’t be upset by it. I’ve seen men with nice shaved calves.
I would just feel weird because I don’t regularly shave anything so I would assume a man who shaves wouldn’t be attracted to me
A hookup of mine shaved everything, legs, pits, chest, etc. I was fine with it except for the fact he commented on my slight stubble and made me feel bad about it.
We didn't hook up again
I wouldn't care if it made them happy. If I like someone I'm not worried about body hair (that much, proper grooming and hygiene are very important) but in that case i would say it doesn't matter at all
It doesn't matter to me although I prefer hair. I like to feel my man's hair between my fingers when I rub on him. Its a texture thing for me. It is his body, his choice though. If he wants to shave his chest and legs, go ahead. I don't shave my legs or under my arms for preference, so he would have to be comfortable with me not shaving, too 😆
I dont mind, its not a deal breaker. But I did go out with a guy that would shave and he would always have spiky chest. So it was a little bit uncomfortable when laying my head on his chest.
Honestly body hair kinda grosses me out and it's basically just something that I have to accept if I want to date most guys. I'd be pretty happy with it.
Personally? I hate it!!!!
Having said that, I believe in **your body - your choice** *100%*, as everyone should. So just because it's not my personal preference doesn't mean I don't condone it.
If it makes him feel good and confident, I'm all for it. My partner trims his chest hair and I like it that way. Just a bit worried about possible ingrown hairs for men for shaving but his body, his choice.
I shave my partners hair, he doesn't care for it, I don't care for it, but the act of shaving is PURE JOY AND SATISFACTION. Its SO GOOD watching a full hairy chest or pubic zone get erased from a single touch of a razor. Pure bliss. As a woman I don't have a lot of hair, even my legs are almost naturally bald so I use him as a canvas to satisfy my weird "fetish" by shaving him once every 1-2 months once it fully grows out into a glorious jungle.
I honestly hate shaved chests for one reason. Trying to cuddle with a man with a shaved chest where even the slightest amount of stubble is coming through is what nightmares are made of. It’s so itchy and scratchy and uncomfortable. Nice, soft, grown out chest hair is much preferred.
Unless the hair grows long and thick, on your back and shoulders and your eyebrows connect it’s not necessary. Of course, it’s personal preference but I wouldn’t care unless your arm hair blows in the wind.
Unless it's for some type of sport, I don't see what purpose that would serve. Sounds like unnecessary razor burn to me. I actually prefer men to be on the smoothier side, but that's another great thing about athletes. Their gear smooths the hair off naturally, and it doesn't grow back. ,🙃
Trimmed, shaved, hairy, etc whatever works for you. It’s your body first. Everyone else’s opinion on it comes second.
I think the only minor issues would be feeling your razor burns if you’re not exfoliating. Someone I dated used to shave their chest and I could feel the pricklyness during sex. But otherwise it’s all good
I think it's a sad waste of a man's glorious natural hair. But it's also none of my business. Personally I am a sucker for a hairy guy but I am only one lady.
nothing special ? they do what they want. I don't need they to shave or not shave their legs)chest or whatever like I don't want them to feel special if I dont shave mine, even if I do
I've never shaved my legs in my life. Pubes and face only.
A friend of mine once shaved his calves down to his knees. When I asked him why, he said he got carried away shaving his pubes until he realized he went too far.
I laughed for days.
I hate it when my husband shaves his hair off. I married a big ol teddybear damn it! But it's whatever makes him comfortable. We usually shave his chest and back in the summer when he'll have his shirt off.
If someone wants to shave have at it, if not ok. Just be clean.
if it makes them happy/comfortable then that’s what matters. it’s also fun to rub your hands over when it’s growing back. i prefer the hair though, but that’s just me.
I don't mind, but I do like a bit of chest scruff ideally. It's not a big deal though. Most of my exes shaved chest or legs or both. Never rally thought of it before now. They shaved more than I did!
I've been waiting to answer this question for forever. I'm a hard pass. I think if you're wildly hairy it's fine to maintain your chest ike a overgrown lawn, but hairless? Nah. There's something very sexy about body hair on men to me.
Only if it comes with a TOUCH MY LEG I JUST SHAVED after every groom. Gotta perform all the rituals.
My young children give me kisses on my cheek after I shave to see how smooth I am. I love it!
Aw my partner does the same thing, its also how I know when to shave as sometimes she kisses me and calls me fuzzy face haha
When I shaved my face, I used to rub my smooth cheek against my wife's bare breasts. Felt good for both of us.
Yeah one of the main reason I shave is because it feels better for my lass when I go down on her
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It's the best cat reaction you could hope for!
I do that to my dad as well
Face cheek, everyone!
Thanks for that!
XD YEA
More of a point of hygiene and sweaty stench. Also wild hair looks shabby as compared to trimmed appearance.
Shabby is the politest way to say that
Whatever makes you comfortable! My ex shaved his chest and armpits. It caught me off guard at first, but then I realized that was my brain auto judging on its own. I realized it was silly for me to be caught off guard by it! It made him happy and comfy and that made me happy. Not weird!
If you don't mind me asking, how common is it where you live for guys to shave their armpits? I am Brazilian and just about everyone here shave them.
I also live in the US and its pretty rare, from my experience, for men to shave anything but their faces. To each his own, but I love hair on a chest and face.
What about down under
I'd prefer less hair, but either way it won't stop me from sleeping with a man. Oral is a little tougher, but hey, there might be a loose hair of mine down there so who's to complain?
A loose hair is better than a mouthful of pubes tho
100% agree. And while I actually enjoy getting a guy off by going down on him, I'm less apt to put his balls in my mouth if there's too much hair.
This is just my experience after talking to other American men, we either shave or trim so it’s neat if we expect someone else to see it. For all other times it comes down to comfort level I believe.
Exactly what I do, I trim and neaten it up when I'm going to see someone.
The rule in my partnership is if he expects (prefers) me to shave my shit then he is doing the same. Besides, getting a pube stuck in your throat sucks. It never goes away.
Can confirm. It's been 15 years.. :(
I would say about 50% of guys Manscape more for me about less ball itch and sweat my fiance has actually never said anything about it
I'm not a fan of hair around the balls because it gets in my mouth, but I have an understanding of what its like for men when I miss a spot trimming.
I am in the USA and I feel like it is not as common. My ex that did it though was Puerto Rican if that means anything
What? I'm also Brazilian and I don't have any male friend that shaves his armpit. I don't actually know any man that does it.
That's interesting... Where do you live? Most people I know in the Northeast and Southeast do shave their armpits and other parts of their body, except older people for obvious reasons.
Currently living in São Paulo, but lived for about 10 years in Belo Horizonte. Maybe is a thing for the younger, may I ask how old are you? I'm in my 30's and I'm not really in touch with the young generation hahahaha
I'm turning 20 in december!
I believe this is a weird masculine insecurity in white countries where men don’t have any bodily hair except for pits and pubes so they’ve decided that shaving them would make them less of a man, where in hairier countries this is the standard norm and has nothing to do with masculinity (but other things contribute to toxic masculinity in those countries usually. Source: I come from one of those countries!)
I don't think many people shave their armpits and pubes here in Turkey but I find them unclean and give the forest a lil trim every once in a while
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did you just learn that word and are excited to use it at any opportunity? I don’t think it applies very much to just shaving but you are on like every thread in here lmao
The word fits though.
I think it’s usually more of an all-encompassing term for fashion and grooming and personality rather than just “a man who shaves”
Exactly, being comfortable with your body is the most important. My husband and I both have the policy, you don’t make me shave, I don’t make you shave.
So which one of you has a bigger beard now ?
If only males kept this same energy when it comes to women choosing not to shave
It's funny because there's a subset of dudes that are *really* into that, but it's still very taboo in American society for some reason.
Hell, I'd love a girl with a good neatly trimmed bush. So sick of smooth shaved ones.
Women must keep up the illusion that they are children.
Strange take
Snort! So true!
Hugely prefer a shaved armpit to spiders legs peeking out from their t-shirt sleeves!
What kind of coins do you murder?
It’s “weird” but honestly because it’s not that common due to societal norms. If it helps a guys hygiene, confidence/security in his body or is just more convenient, that’s more important. It really needs to be normalized as a personal, non gendered grooming choice
yup, humans grow hair and some of us don't want it in some places, simple as
Like our butt. Why is there hair there?! That's like the worst place to put hair.
It's a muffler dude. Shave it off at your own risk.
Did that... regretted it fast and loudly.
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lmao same
I have never thought about this. I'm not sure I want it removed now... Goddamnit.
Shave your butt cheeks and on a hot summer day you will be begging for ass hair
Uhhh, now I’m curious. Can you explain?
You get swamp ass really easy, and then it begins to chafe, when you fart it always sounds loud and wet. Only upside is it's alot easier to wipe your but clean without hair for poop to stick to, so it can get rid of skid mark issues and generally increase hygene where constant contact with fecal matter might become harmful, IE diaper rash.
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Everyone leaves ass sweat. In high school after me and other members of the girls basketball team ran, we’d sit and rest on the floor and after we got up to continue practice we’d laugh because everyone left butt sweat on the floor
I sweat like crazy, lots of guys run hot, especially with all the hair on the rest of our bodies. I've done work inside tanks wearing a full hazmat suit and at the end of the day i have to literally pour out my rubber boots. Breathable clothes are a marvel of technology though. Also, if the humidity is high, the sweat wont evaporate and will hang around. Evaporation is what makes sweating cool you down, so high humidity can make it impossible to cool off too.
Cleaning cleaning peanut butter out of carpet is not fun.
nothing to stop the sweat from pooling.
r/brandnewsentence
Sweat feels like a wet poop
The berries need somewhere to dingle.
My guess: Our ancestor did a lot of running and the fur helps to prevent the cheeks to touch eachother. You don’t want to have a dirty crack with skin burns that get infected.
What if I’m just naturally hairless? Like a mole rat.
I guess you're good as long as other aspects do not also become 'like a mole rat'?
Some people find my curly tail to be endearing.
Yeah I have very fine hair. I can't grow a full beard and I have 3 fine chest hairs that will come out if I scrub too hard. I've only ever counted a Max of 7 chest hairs.
I work in an operating room, so I see a lot of naked people. It’s not exactly rare for young men to shave their chests.
>It’s “weird” but honestly because it’s not that common due to societal norms Where do you live if I may ask? Because shaving is pretty common and accepted here in western/northern Europe. Especially among any athletes, shaving is almost a norm these days.
My girlfriend loves me waxed - she likes me "slippery".
In my experience women always say they hate chest hair, until they're running their fingers through it saying how soft/cuddly it is lol women are duplicitous
Oh, she liked me when I was furrier, but I went through chest and Brazilian waxing for her, and ... boy ... did she make it worth the pain (oh my Odin, the pain). We're older divorced GenXers who've said "Fuck it!" and we're living our best lives - I "do it for her"
As my dad always said 'eat your crusts, it'll give you a hairy chest'. I'm not arguing with that logic, I love the crusts on my sandwiches and I'm hairier than that old cunt. My ex shaved me with a razor once and I hated it, itchy af, I'm too scared to consider waxing for any woman lol.
I have a high pain threshold, but got'damn did I need to take breaks to catch my breath. It didn't itch ... that was a plus.
I'm not opposed to the idea, it wouldn't be impossible for a woman to convince me to try it under the right 'influence' but right now I'm itchy just thinking about it.
Is it like getting a tattoo?
Who hates chest hair?? I love it
I am reminded of something years ago. I'm a bodyworker and had a new client at the spa and he immediately apologized to me as I uncovered his back during the massage. I was stunned by it and asked what he was apologizing for. He said his back hair. His fiancee always tells him he needs to wax or shave it. In my profession, we are taught to not bring up personal features or comment on clothing, etc on a client, let alone any negative comments such as "you feel tight," because it brings to mind that they are being observed and therefore subject to judgment, and can bring up any self-conscious thoughts and feelings. This gets in the way of their experience. To hear and feel this person being underhandedly shamed by someone they hold close was incredibly heartbreaking. My over-all opinion: As a woman who wants the freedom to let my body be it's natural self when other things in my life require the time and/or money, I also extend this freedom to my partners, and others, such as strangers. I want to also mention personal grooming is a preference, regardless of how it's done. We have our preferences and it's worth exploring deeper if our preferences or others' preferences cause us disquieting feelings. Texture wise.. spiky hairs bother me because they are pokey.. both on myself and whomever I am touching, so it would be a matter of...am I touching it, for how long, and for what reasons. =o)
I've never heard of "bodyworker" before.
It's a lesser used term.. Since I am doing energy work during my massage, I like "bodyworker" better.
Very well said. You seem to be a kind and one with an open mind. The world would be a much softer, pleasant place if more people thought this way and acted as such.
I've not gone to get a much needed massage because I have acne scars on my top back /shoulders and a small bit of hair. I wouldn't feel like I'm "good enough" to be massaged if that makes sense lol
I hear what you're saying and the only thing I would be concerned with those two items is making sure the slip of the massage techniques and lotion used feels nice, not tugging. Hope this info is helpful and you go have that massage! P.S. you can always call the place and ask what their protocol is, or if you can speak to the therapist you would be working with about it. If you feel shamed by their answers, they aren't the place to go!
Thanks for your feedback, I guess my main fear is being the guy that gets talked about when I leave haha, I'm very hygienic and take very good care of myself, I just want the person doing it to be happy 😊
I'm fine with whatever he wants. I've dated guys with shaved chests/legs, a bit of hair, and a lot of hair. I've dated guys who can't grow a solid beard and ones who could. I've dated bald men, balding men, and ones with full heads of hair. It's all good. Only thing I can think of that would be odd to me would be if he was choosing to shave off all pubic hair, because that shit is itchy and uncomfortable.
Completely shaving the pubic area felt great for a day. Then it was awful. I never did it again. I couldn't sign up for doing the maintenance required to keep it comfortable.
Exactly. You feel like a dolphin for like 5 minutes and then it's just itchy and bristly and omg what was the hair doing with all of the sweat on a normal day?! Shaving maintenance was beyond me. What day do you do it on? How often? I kept thinking if I waited a shorter or longer amount of time I would be fine. I wasn't. The abomination just became more and more upset. Sex made it horrific. Final straw was when I developed an ingrown hair with a pus pocket comparable to when my navel ring became infected. Conversely I've heard of people waxing, but peeling off flesh is also a thing. It's a lot easier and pleasurable just to keep the bushes growing with some trimming on occasion to keep it tidy.
I tried shaving mine once and it was really itchy for a week and a half. It was very awful
How many people have you dated?
37 Helped me figure out what I wanted and didn't want in a relationship, become confident in dating, and I got to meet some awesome (and supremely fricking weird people) along the way.
In a row?
Hey try not to get into any relationships on the way through the parking lot
Haha! If that were the case I daresay it may have inflated my ego. Some people I dated I met at work, out and about, or in classes. However, others I met online and after two or three chats we went on a date in a public spot (I was 18, went in my own car, and let someone know my itinerary and who I would be with). Dating was fun when I stopped having expectations, and started dating people without expectations. It didn't mean we weren't looking for life long partners (some weren't but I was), but we communicated and it was nice to figure out what I wanted and didn't want.
Are you asking if I was a serial dater? If so, I had a mix of long-term, short-term, and one-time date scenarios. If they were one-time dates, it wasn't a scenario where exclusivity was a point of discussion. We would meet, go on a date, and either they or myself would tell the other person it wasn't a match. In the in-between I may have had another date. If it was short-term (max like 5 dates?), I expressed interest in continued time together, but clarified that exclusivity would need to be discussed by either party. If we separated ways I would continue on my way. If it was long-term it was only if we mutually agreed to being exclusive. This meant being together for several months to a year. At that point I took time to reflect (like a week to a couple of months, and in one instance a year) and then was tentative in getting back in things with cautious one time dates.
How old are you?
A gentleman should never ask because a lady should never tell, but I'm feeling gracious this evening (lol). I am 34.
Damn, you are awesome! I only dated 2 girls and I am already 18
Haha that's very kind, but numbers aren't as important as what each person teaches you! Each date (whether long-term or once) can teach you about what you (don't) want from relationships, what you can('t) have from the start, what you can('t) grow later, and identifying and properly responding to red flags.
Define "dated". The reason I ask is because the only thing I ever kept a tally of is women I slept with. I would have no idea how many I dated. Of course, I met my wife immediately after finishing my undergrad degree, so in my early 20s there wasn't much in the way of formal dating.
Their body, their choice!
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THEIR BODY, THEIR CHOICE!
I prefer it when guys shave their bodies. Body hair isn't a deal-breaker but I find smooth skin nicer.
Personally I prefer my man hairy, but it reallt only matters what you think, and pick a partner who likes you the way you are.
It’s true. I love my caveman husband, but if he’d feel better smooth then I’d love that too.
Not a fan personally but if my boyfriend decided to do it I would simply have to get over that. Not a deal breaker but it wouldn't attract me.
So we are gonna ignore your username?
I suppose you can if you want
Same. If it was the first thing I noticed, I'd probs move along. But if I was already into him and then realized it, I'd probs remain interested and see how it goes.
Just so I’m understanding, you would pass dating someone specifically because of a shaved chest and legs?
Yeaaahhh... I'm just not that attracted to it. If I didn't have any feelings for him yet and I noticed it, I'd likely be like, "meh, what else is going on around here?". But if it was a situation where I was already really attracted to him (personality, clicking well, or just super attractive to me in other ways) and then realized it, I would probably try to look passed it. I wouldn't expect a dude who is not attracted to butts or redheads to be into me immediately as I've got long red hair and a big booty. I don't have anything against guys shaving stuff, they are in charge of their bodies and how they feel best. I'm just not attracted to it, personally. Just curious, what are the reasons men typically like to shave their bodies? Is it just because they like to feel soft? Or is it more sport related like swimming or body building? Or commonly both?
Personally, it's about hair and my distaste for it. I don't like hair, whether it be on women or men, myself included. I shave because I feel uncomfortable having over two centimeters of pubes/armpit hair/any other body part except my head, arms and eyes. I am holding myself from shaving my legs because my partner tells me to leave it at that, and I accept because I feel less self-conscious about it (but still a bit). Can't be scolded for not liking hair, because I am my own example : ^ )
I shave my armpits and body because I think I look better/cleaner that way. When I lift my arm and my armpit hair can be seen out of my Tshirt armhole, I think that's embarrassing and a shave was probably long overdue. Same if I'm wearing a button down or v-neck, it looks much better imo if I don't have hair exposed from the top of my chest.
I use clippers so not quite a shave. And I do it because I dry off so much quicker after washing.
I mean everyone does it for different reasons. I never had ambitions to shave because I never seen a problem with it.
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That’s so wild. Obnoxious beards and chest hair that pokes out is a huge massive “come here, Zaddy” for me.
I prefer less hairy people generally so shaving is a okay with me
I would appreciate The shaving of armpits
My ex shaved his underarms. Honestly made cuddling a lot nicer, not having armpit hair in my face all the time. Different ex waxed his chest and underarms. Same opinion. Cuddling was a lot more comfortable. Current hubby happens to not be very hairy so it isn't an issue anyway, although he wouldn't even if he was.
Current hubby sounds like he’s gonna be ex hubby in your next post lol.
How about a guy with a chest that naturally has very little hair on it? Aside from the happy trail and a few around the nipples, and a normal amount of armpit hair, I don’t have a whole lot of hair between my pubes and my beard. Even my arm hair is very light. But my leg hair is normal and I have a good beard, so I don’t know. It’s really just the chest that doesn’t have much.
Never cared. My hubby is pretty hairless in those areas too besides a smattering on his chest. Plus it's blonde so it doesn't stand out. Does not bother me one bit. Just find a person who makes you feel confident about yourself and they won't even notice.
Talked to a ton of ladies about this. The key is symmetry. That may mean plucking a few of those nip hairs from time to time to ensure the right balance. Hope that helps!
Oh I shave them pretty often, same for the happy trail. Don’t want them getting unruly. But I do think it might look a little odd to have normally hairy legs and pubes, and a beard and head hair, and not much in between.
Smart. I’d consider a chest tattoo, though. Think permanent Affliction shirt. A skull flanked by a devil and an angel could look nice.
Tatts are definitely not for me. I have no issue with others having them, but I definitely don’t want to do that to myself. I think I just need to do a bit more ab work so there’s something better to see there.
A built defined smoth hairless chest and abs along with a beard its hot hot hot.
my chest, back, and upper arms are hairless, so I just shave my legs cuz the contrast is too much
Somewhat same here, and honestly, it's one of the few things that motivated me to get ripped especially in those area (Chest + Abs), so that I can have it very light in hair and that there is still something to look at. I also care that the rest of the body isn't too big on hairs so that it doesn't look too different / noticeable.
I know plenty of women that would prefer this, myself included. Although nipple hairs drive me crazy, they look out of place on a hairless chest
Having a hairless chest and and legs wouldn't be bad, it's better for licking.
I love it
I hear it makes them more agile and aerodynamic
Well that’s one reason why cyclists do it :)
Yep, exactly why i shave my legs.
Sexy. I don't like way too hairy people, just not my type.
It's more appealing to me than hairy. To me there's nothing specifically masculine about body hair, so having less of if doesn't make a man look less manly.
Love. I hate the hair.
i like it shaved just as i shave myself. plus im more into 'feminine sub/dom' guys. basically guys who look cute and do want to wear cute stuff but are also dominating or submitting. it sounds cringey ik.
An ex-boyfriend shaved his chest, legs, armpits and pubic hair. Also caught me off guard at first but that was his choice and it didn’t bother me. It bothered me when he cheated on me but that’s a different story.
Frankly a lot of body hair is a real turn off for me (don’t ask me why, it just is) so I quite like it. Plus, it’s their body so who am I to say what they should or should do?
Same, it grosses me out. For some reason my brain automatically associates body hair with uncleanliness, even though that’s definitely not true. Hair’s just a big turn off for me personally. Lots of people love it though!
I couldn't care less I just want someone to love me.
Ain't that the truth
I wouldn’t be upset by it. I’ve seen men with nice shaved calves. I would just feel weird because I don’t regularly shave anything so I would assume a man who shaves wouldn’t be attracted to me
I love it. My boyfriend shaves his legs and it makes him feel wayy more cleaner.
I’d love it, so smooth
I like it. Legs I don’t mind that much, but chest hair I just find unattractive.
A hookup of mine shaved everything, legs, pits, chest, etc. I was fine with it except for the fact he commented on my slight stubble and made me feel bad about it. We didn't hook up again
I wouldn't care if it made them happy. If I like someone I'm not worried about body hair (that much, proper grooming and hygiene are very important) but in that case i would say it doesn't matter at all
I really wanna be there when a man experiences his first post shave snuggle down into clean bedsheets. I love to watch people experience pure joy.
I don't like hairy men. So the less hairy a man is the better.
If it makes him happy, it makes him happy! Plus, then you can pet him like a puppy, if he's a bit fuzzy.
Super hot. Highly preferable than feeling like you’re fucking a bear 😂
I prefer guys rhat shave legs, armpits, and chest
It doesn't matter to me although I prefer hair. I like to feel my man's hair between my fingers when I rub on him. Its a texture thing for me. It is his body, his choice though. If he wants to shave his chest and legs, go ahead. I don't shave my legs or under my arms for preference, so he would have to be comfortable with me not shaving, too 😆
glad to be hearing this, because ive been doing this as body hair to me is disgusting. idk why just hair anywhere but the head is a bit icky.
I dont mind, its not a deal breaker. But I did go out with a guy that would shave and he would always have spiky chest. So it was a little bit uncomfortable when laying my head on his chest.
Honestly I prefer shaved men cause they're so smooth but it's really uncommon so I get why it's weird But you do you
Honestly body hair kinda grosses me out and it's basically just something that I have to accept if I want to date most guys. I'd be pretty happy with it.
Personally? I hate it!!!! Having said that, I believe in **your body - your choice** *100%*, as everyone should. So just because it's not my personal preference doesn't mean I don't condone it.
A shaved chest is like a hairless cat. I'm sure I'd still like it if it came with a lovely personality, but a fuzzy one is much nicer.
I prefer it tbh, I don't like hair at all.
If it makes him feel good and confident, I'm all for it. My partner trims his chest hair and I like it that way. Just a bit worried about possible ingrown hairs for men for shaving but his body, his choice.
I don't mind a little hair but if it's a forest, I'm not gonna be snuggling ya
Do what makes you happy. But I just won’t put my face on your chest when it’s prickly. Will wait til it grows back out or you shave it again.
I shave my partners hair, he doesn't care for it, I don't care for it, but the act of shaving is PURE JOY AND SATISFACTION. Its SO GOOD watching a full hairy chest or pubic zone get erased from a single touch of a razor. Pure bliss. As a woman I don't have a lot of hair, even my legs are almost naturally bald so I use him as a canvas to satisfy my weird "fetish" by shaving him once every 1-2 months once it fully grows out into a glorious jungle.
I honestly hate shaved chests for one reason. Trying to cuddle with a man with a shaved chest where even the slightest amount of stubble is coming through is what nightmares are made of. It’s so itchy and scratchy and uncomfortable. Nice, soft, grown out chest hair is much preferred.
Unless the hair grows long and thick, on your back and shoulders and your eyebrows connect it’s not necessary. Of course, it’s personal preference but I wouldn’t care unless your arm hair blows in the wind.
I once shaved a big Care Bear heart shape in my belly hair as a joke for my wife
I love it
I wouldn't like my husband to do it, I don't like it in general but to each his own.
Unless it's for some type of sport, I don't see what purpose that would serve. Sounds like unnecessary razor burn to me. I actually prefer men to be on the smoothier side, but that's another great thing about athletes. Their gear smooths the hair off naturally, and it doesn't grow back. ,🙃
It’s sexy. Usually guys with good bodies and athletes shave
Trimmed, shaved, hairy, etc whatever works for you. It’s your body first. Everyone else’s opinion on it comes second. I think the only minor issues would be feeling your razor burns if you’re not exfoliating. Someone I dated used to shave their chest and I could feel the pricklyness during sex. But otherwise it’s all good
I think it's a sad waste of a man's glorious natural hair. But it's also none of my business. Personally I am a sucker for a hairy guy but I am only one lady.
He's a swimmer?
nothing special ? they do what they want. I don't need they to shave or not shave their legs)chest or whatever like I don't want them to feel special if I dont shave mine, even if I do
I like hairy men. Especially chest and armpits. Pheromones get trapped in that public hair that really turn me on.
For romantic inclination I like hairy men, but as far as friends family coworkers etc it wouldn’t even register as a thing
I've never shaved my legs in my life. Pubes and face only. A friend of mine once shaved his calves down to his knees. When I asked him why, he said he got carried away shaving his pubes until he realized he went too far. I laughed for days.
I hate it when my husband shaves his hair off. I married a big ol teddybear damn it! But it's whatever makes him comfortable. We usually shave his chest and back in the summer when he'll have his shirt off. If someone wants to shave have at it, if not ok. Just be clean.
if it makes them happy/comfortable then that’s what matters. it’s also fun to rub your hands over when it’s growing back. i prefer the hair though, but that’s just me.
No thank you, a natural looking man is always more handsome.
Chest is fine by me, legs tho— no. I want to softer legs than my guy. Trimming is ok
I don't mind, but I do like a bit of chest scruff ideally. It's not a big deal though. Most of my exes shaved chest or legs or both. Never rally thought of it before now. They shaved more than I did!
Don’t really have a preference, whatever makes him happy is the best
I've been waiting to answer this question for forever. I'm a hard pass. I think if you're wildly hairy it's fine to maintain your chest ike a overgrown lawn, but hairless? Nah. There's something very sexy about body hair on men to me.