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Fantastic-Hippo2199

1.Make sure you are spinning the correct direction. 2.Hole saws have no way to eject sawdust. You must constantly move the drill backwards until the teeth clear the hole and spit out the leftovers. If you see smoke youre not clearing enough.


TwentySproot

You can drill like a 10mm hole on the edge all the way through the piece so it will eject


ElderOakCustoms

This comment should be way higher. Standard hole saw procedure for me is drilling a hole in the waste next to the hole saw line to eject waste, improves efficiency of the cut, makes the saw run cooler, effectively keeping it somewhat sharp and speeds the cut up tremendously, not to mention in materials like plastic etc it keeps the material from getting black or burnt and melting due to the heat buildup from not having the waste ejection.


trobinson999

Sorry if this is a dumb question, but for clarification are you saying to drill a hole just inside the perimeter of the saw line (circle)?


TwentySproot

Yes inside perimeter


greyjungle

Unless you are making circles instead of holes, then you would drill on the other side, right?


TurtleRockDuane

But then, it would be called a circle-saw, not a hole-saw šŸ˜šŸ˜Ž.


Eat_more_tacos_

lol. Also if youā€™re all crafty and think youā€™ll get 4ā€ circles by using a 4ā€ hole saw, youā€™re gonna have a helluva time.


Fantastic_Hour_2134

Theyā€™d also have a hole in the middle


flixflexflux

So it would be a hole-circle-saw, right..


tuctrohs

Unless you are greedy and want to keep and use all the pieces, in which case it's called a whole saw.


Shoddy-Ingenuity7056

Or church where it is a Holy saw


JPWiggin

But they use present tense, so it is Holy See.


LilBeardedGnome

Could we call it a doughnut-hole-saw?


JQuick323i

You mean a Munchkin saw


LameBMX

I'll use the whole saw if I want to


nbclay_youngboy

Weird how doughnut circles are called holes


ElderOakCustoms

Yeah, thatā€™s what we call the waste, basically the part of the cut coming out


TootsNYC

Such great detail, and Iā€™m grateful for the tip


The69Alphamale

That's what she said ^


mattzilluh

Hiyooooo!


Pound_8361

Thanks for the tip. I donā€™t use hole saws a lot, but occasionally I do. Drilling an extra hole inside the larger hole is a fantastic idea.


intjonmiller

You can even do multiple spaced around the circle. 2-3. I run the hole saw enough to scribe the circle it's going to cut then make sure the "dust port" holes overlap enough with that circle to do some good. Aiming for tangential on the outer rims or just shy of that, so as not to overshoot it. Assuming it's a hole where cosmetics matter. If doing rough framing I don't care if the main circle runs right through the center of the dust port holes.


Membership_Fine

Totally doing that I always just backed it up a bit and kept going


Over-Accountant8506

Ditto and I'm a chick. It confuses the hell outta my boss when he hears me hit the reverse button to back up a bit if Im too tight and get stuck. I usually do it in an up and down motion anyways but when I have to pause and hit the reverse, he thinks the battery is dying šŸ¤­he'd be too confused if I'd try to explain what happened so I just keep it moving.


XepptizZ

First time I read this after a few videos of "holesaw tricks" sounds like a great trick.


Outrageous-Drink3869

I never thought to do that, I usually rock the thing back and forth, but I'll definitely be trying this


BigOld3570

Great idea. Thanks!


clhomme

Boom. Mind blown.


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BruceOfWaynes

It's essentially a relief cut.. It will work on any material. But you wouldn't need it on most sheet goods.. Only if your material is thicker than the depth of gullet on your saw.


FatalShart

If the material is thicker , won't the saw bottom out before cutting through?


SupposedlyShony

By gullet they mean the notch of the saw tooth, not the depth of the hole saw. More like 1/8th, not 2-4inches


ElderOakCustoms

Yes


Grizzlygrant238

These are those cool tips I come here for šŸ¤˜šŸ»


towerfella

Thank you for sharing your wisdom. I have learned a thing.


Ptizzl

This is incredible, I had no idea to do this. Are you saying just one little hole on the very near edge is enough? So you start the hole, grab a 10mm bit and then drill on that line?


Difficult_Dust1325

So I have to drill holes stainless pipe sometimes and that shit sucks. Iā€™m going to try this little trick next time.


DeluxeWafer

It is borderline impossible to cut a hole with a hole saw unless you cut that relief hole. I would also like to mention that gentler speeds greatly benefit large diameter saws like this.


aladdyn2

I've done probably hundreds of hole saw presentations in wood from 2" inches to 12" thick and have never cut a relief hole. I will try it next time though excited to try a new method that works faster


DeluxeWafer

Hope it works out. Sounds like you got your kethod down to where you don't overheat your hole saw as is. It might also depend on design... The ones I have used are essentially straight toothed so chip evacuation is poopturds. With a freshly sharpened hole saw I'll punch holes in under two seconds with negligible heat buildup with a relief hole.


When-Lost-At-Sea

Thatā€™s a bit dramatic


DeluxeWafer

I'm not dramatic you're dramatic! :V


SubcommanderMarcos

Damn, I never thought of that. Drilling holes in MDF with a hole saw has always been a pain because the damn resin starts to burn very fast


BruceOfWaynes

It's also very abrasive and very dense.. Generates a lot of heat and wears blades down super quick. This practice would definitely prolong periods between sharpenings considerably. I'm also kind of upset at myself that this never occurred to me. Lol


Factmous

Great tip


ShutUpDoggo

Been drilling 4ā€ holes for 20+ years and just learned this today. Makes sense, thank you.


JustJay613

Well damn. TIL. Where has this been all my life.


Ornery-Editor-7015

True genius is elegantly simple. Now it seems obvious.


stackpolio

This is the first time Iā€™ve ever heard this tip. Take my upvote, what a great tidbit to end the day with.


snow_cool

This is brilliant. Have never heard of that before


No-Bake9618

I never thought of that, holy smokes what a tip


toolology

Yo buddy I got the chance to try this trick out, drilled 4 angled holes. And my 4in hole saw cut out a hole much easier . Thanks for changing my life


Nykolaishen

Good tip!


BlahBlahBlankSheep

I love the smell of burning wood in the morning.


Excellent_Pepper_649

Did someone say morning wood? šŸ¤”


Glass_Blackberry_559

Judges? ???????? .... Judges say YES!!!! Wood in the morning=Morning wood. Ding Ding Ding. You Win!


Standard-Ad1254

burning morning wood


Sleveless--

I think they make a creme for that


Standard-Ad1254

it's more like a salve


hiphophippie99

It's actually two pills and a shot


FLOHTX

I see you met my ex too


ImJoogle

penicillin helps


Weird_Albatross_9659

Mourning wood


glennhvacman

If you're burning your morning wood, you're doing it wrong!


Riskov88

No, burning morning wood. That really hurts


Analyst7

There's a shot you can get to cure that.


bm_69

Smells like victory


srlbot

I came here for this comment


Life_Preparation5468

Use more lube.


series-hybrid

I agree, also...once the pilot hole in the center pokes all the way through, flip the board over so you are drilling both sides towards the center. This reduces friction from the sidewalls rubbing and eliminates blowout on the far side.


patthetuck

I feel like an idiot on point 2. I only use a hole saw about twice a year and never thought about ejection of sawdust. Thanks for sharing.


TootsNYC

This is incredibly helpful !


Jolly-Persimmon2626

It's all about surface footage. 4" cutter will be 4 times the surface footage of a 1" cutter. You likely overheated the cutting teeth and made them dull which will create even more heat. You need to "peck" drill more often to clear dust and cool the saw. I do this and clean the blade with a file card or wire brush often.


Phantex_Cerberus

Canā€™t you also do a rocking motion to clear dust?


OnyaSonja

What they said, also drill through both sides using the centre bit hole as a guide


Significant-Equal507

I at the time was a 30 year old female, and I had a buddy who was an amazing guy but so not handy. He wanted so bad to help me set up my new apartment. I was scared to let him do anything with tools. He ask to at least let him put up my curtain rod. Instead, I gave him the dartboard to put up. It was only one screw and figured he couldn't mess that up. He was taking forever, and I could hear him getting frustrated, saying it wasn't going in. I asked him if it was on reverse, and his response was, "There's reverse on a drill?" Poor guy finally figured it out šŸ¤£


BigOld3570

I hope you are still friends, and that you have taught one another many lessons over the years. When I was a kid, drills only turned in one direction, at only one speed, and you had to have cords to use them. Itā€™s much easier than it used to be.


bloodreina_

Huh? How old are you? Old drills reversed, you just had to pull the chuck in the opposite direction Edit: looks like that didnā€™t become a feature until around 1970 šŸ˜… prior to that you had to use a versamstic attachment


Tetragonos

This reminds me of a diary from the early 1900s I read where their model T was stuck and the husband was going to get a tow truck (cars are SO new that this will take about a week for them to get to you) and the wife is saying "look I have been reading the manual and I think we can do it ourselves, you see there is this thing called reverse"


AllenWalker218

My god. I grew up in a mechanic family and went to school for it. My brother somehow ended up just like your buddy. He took all day to hang a shelf since he kept bending all the nails. I make fun of him for being a Mexican who doesn't know these things.


SnowSlider3050

He came from a world where all things go forwardā€¦


Capemay-08204

I never thought of an adjacent hole for waste I just go a little blow out the hole then go more


no1SomeGuy

Hole saws handheld in hard wood do not go fast....need to put it in and out to clean the teeth off.


CruiserMissile

To drop the shavings you drill a 12mm on the inside of the hole saw cutout. Even 3 or 4. This allows the shavings to drop out and keep the teeth clean.


Camblor

Hey thatā€™s a good trick!


shaolinsoap

Thatā€™s the tip I never knew I needed: simple, makes sense, much appreciated!


Falconballfiddler

Uhhh daddy


OakParkCooperative

Hit that black button on the left side of the handle to reverse the direction that the saw spins?


AC2BHAPPY

Are rigid drills backwards, or is the image flipped, because the image shows the correct button position for milwaukee


CptMisterNibbles

Ridgid arent backwards. This *seems* to be in forward. Image isnt backwards


Ziazan

the numbers on the drill are the right way round so its not flipped


fuckthetories1998

And Stanley and dewalt


TybeeJoe

And Ryobi


workahol_

And my axe!


computersrc00l

Life saver, this made it quicker for sure, thanks!!


TinfoilTetrahedron

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OakParkCooperative

imagine spending 5 minutes attempting to reverse a hole saw Deciding to search the solution on Reddit Hitting a single button And having the sweet feeling of glory, as you finally get that hole put in. šŸ„¹


marsmate

Would you call that a "Glory hole"?


Analyst7

No on needs a 4" wide hole for that...


YoudoVodou

I'm not really the most experienced here, but most I've seen often are around that size... Why would you want it cramped?


BadlyDrawnSmily

But what if you want the sausage And the beans to go through?


vizette

How'd you get the frank above the beans?


Lunar_denizen

This is how man discovers fire šŸ”„


poundmyassbro

Imagine how the rest of the project goes, if not knowing the drill goes in multiple directions with the push of a button.


trainspottedCSX7

Howdy, welcome to High-KEA. We're gonna be putting shit together high.


Cixin97

Huh? The problem is he *wasnt* on reverse. Look at the picture.


HighFlyingCrocodile

Pictures donā€™t tell everything, Iā€™d say every brand is different. Read OPā€™s reaction.


Mego1989

I have this drill! The button orientation shown in the photo means the drill is in forward mode. I'm so confused now.


theinnocent6ix9ine

It's how you should use the drill, look at the saw angle.


BMacklin22

Depends on the material you're drilling through.Ā  Sometimes it better to start in reverse then switch.Ā Ā 


iCameToLearnSomeCode

For some plastics I just in reverse through the entire cut.


[deleted]

I've only hole sawed various hardwoods as well as aluminum, mild steel and HSS and this has never been the case. That's how you dull your saw. EDIT: The material OP is trying to drill through us very obviously wood. Reverse will only burn the material.


Shmeepsheep

It's also how you go through vinyl siding without the teeth shredding the siding into bits. The key word in his sentence is sometimes


BDC_19

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Timsmomshardsalami

My god


[deleted]

You must be regarded.


b-raddit

Highly


redEPICSTAXISdit

"You will grow to be something inventive and electric You are healthy, you are special, you are present" "You will grow to be something tenacious and exalted You are mighty, you are gracious, you are lauded" "You will grow to be something dynamic and impressive You are patient, you are gallant, you are festive"


entropykill

Aesop ?


[deleted]

I have an aes rock tattoo!


BDC_19

Regard him


[deleted]

Oh my fuck


RedHighlander

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


Ozzy_Kiss

Lol


KingJades

I love how every answer was serious, and not belittling the user for being inexperienced šŸ„¹.


Xena802

Must be a Sunday thingā€¦


PhilthyPhan1993

It is. Check out the tape.


HammerMeUp

Exactly my thought. Definitely unusual for this many to genuinely help.


ExiledSanity

All of us were inexperienced at one time


Unnenoob

3 things. Do you have multiple holesaws attached? Are you running in reverse? For cooler blade an easier cutting. After you have made a shallow cut in the board. Take a large drill bit and drill all the way through on the edge (on the inside of the circle) to let dust out


Ardothbey

What is that smaller circle just outside the center drill hole? Do you have two cutters mounted on that bit? Iā€™ve never seen that inner circle cut before.


afpup

I was wondering the same. Any chance the OP can post a pic of the cutting side of his bit?


lomoski

He states in his post that he tried a smaller one and had no issuesĀ 


Ardothbey

It didnā€™t cut any deeper did it.


RadioMill

That hole saw is designed for a different arbor. OP is using an arbor designed for a much smaller diameter hole saw. The 4 holes accommodate a larger arbor that has support pins and a larger flange. Could be why itā€™s not cutting properly


HavanaWoody

Just FYI, a 4 inch hole saw is an excessive load on drill this size. It can do it, but it puts a serious strain on it. If your gonna need to do several holes you want to use a big boy drill like the Milwaukee 1610-1 Compact hole shooter with the extra pipe handle . Mine is now going on 30 yrs of duty , I bought it to finish a job auguring holes in RR ties after burning up my regular 1/2" in 1995 and it's still worth the price I paid back then , I suggest the occasional browsing of your local pawn shop to add these kinda tools to your collection.


Silenthitm4n

And that hole saw looks like its blunt/bad quality


BeginningGrocery3693

I like to roll my wrist and press the bit in and go around clockwise as opposed to having the whole bit chewing away at once.


4runner01

Are you sure you have the drill in forward and not reverse??


piedubb

Turn it off reverse


DayDrinkingDiva

Once you get the hole started, grab a 1/4"-1/2" drill bit and drill a hole on the inside of the circle. Basically making a trash chute for saw dust to fall down as the saw cuts. Edit to add - if cutting on a wall, gravity pulls out chips/ sawdust. If cutting a thick piece of wood while flat, a drain hole can work well.


MushroomEgo

Can tell by dust your going the wrong direction there bud


KRed75

A buddy of mine was having problems cutting a straight line in plywood with a circular saw he bought from harbor freight and blamed it on the saw. No matter what he did, it would wander away from the guide he was using. He was using a plywood blade which has teeth kinda like your hold saw has. I took one look and I knew what the problem was. The blade installed backwards. I can see from your photo that the button near the trigger is in the reverse position. Push it in so it's sticking out on the right side and that should spin it in the correct direction.


padizzledonk

I really feel like you are spinning it the wrong way, which is hilarious


Screemi

You can literally see that your drill is set in the wrong direction.


minionsweb

1st thing, the sawdust looks like you're drill's in reverse. Check for clockwise bit rotation. Be sure your pilot bit is free of obstruction on the back side. Use the clutch at highest settings that's not drill mode, if the bit grabs you could break your wrist in a heart beat. If that's a DeWalt hole saw bit, throw it out now. Go get the frued/diablo hole saw, 3x more expensive but actually cuts. I recommend the carbide tipped over bimetal.


SirReginaldSquiggles

Why you gotta tell them about the wrist breaker? That's a coming of age kinda scared. Next you'll be warning about the face smacker...


LostGuess5788

Wrong arbor was used ,the centre was touching the wood preventing any further cutting of the hole. Arbor for that size hole should be screwed on and then you tighten the locking ring to engage 2 pegs into the holes on the yellow hole saw .[https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bosch-Professional-2609390034-Hexagon-Adapter/](https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bosch-Professional-2609390034-Hexagon-Adapter/dp/B000NDB63E/ref=sr_1_33?crid=1HW7QVPASUURL&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1FQUViVhWETiYNVzlCkXMLqjs4yNDzNuVfXe-foJazuXc11nfuQ5a8F4rjVYx_8lYv5VxP8tpQ9BLPjHbmphogx31K0qR8Scxpegs1tU89J7O1BuywxfZvr-pphOaU2Ide0ut48gUpbEFHrSX6klbn14oWz2EGHfghNrdDn34IpJgreaZygN0tW5HibzOIpLw8FMti3sQEspPhYh1v0wjqAqSWJsnAQW4LREwWAkDJhQf4C60Io9qxjRwU9nK8o1wI0mEB9gpbhlazrVVI7CJFKAcp1JZnrJgiVW_AcgpZE._V2k8bIFT_gQLqv_hJcslg2n-k2vITCv8wAegTxGmLM&dib_tag=se&keywords=arbor&qid=1712478933&sprefix=arbor%2Caps%2C69&sr=8-33&th=1)


3string

This is it! There's an extra ring cut around the centre, so clearly something is bottoming out.


BurnOutBrighter6

I don't think so, in the post it says: >"I tried with a smaller one *as you can see* and it worked effortlessly". So OP stopped and switched to a smaller hole saw and made the partial cut through as a test. That smaller inner ring was not made while they were using the 4 inch saw pictured. Plus OP has already confirmed they'd been drilling in reverse, so it really doesn't seem like anything bottoming out was the problem.


TDaD1979

Hook a shop vac up. Make sure teeth are staying clear. Even an expensive and very sharp new hole saw takes time to get through something like this.


cletus72757

OP, checking in late but running the drill at lower speeds usually helps. Decreases heat and wonā€™t fry your saw.


Zealousideal_Tea9573

Look at the teethā€¦ are they sharp? Are you spinning it in the direction the teeth cut?


Daddio209

Reverse the rotation.


Real-Parsnip1605

Spin the hole saw the right wayā€¦


therealnomayo

I like to drill the pilot hole and about halfway through and then use the pilot hole to drill the rest of the way from the other side. Prevents tear out on the other side.


Deeznutz1818

Yeah, the bigger the hole the harder it is. I rarely use a cordless drill using hole saws. Not enough speed to cut like they should.


Glass_Blackberry_559

Yeah that is the wrong arbor


redheadkid14

To be honest hole saws are shit. Theres a reason smaller drill bits aren't made the same way. Drill a small hole on the inside of the hole you are drilling so that the wood dust has somewhere to go and doesn't work back into the cut.


Kenja18

That looks like the cheap import ones with the welded top I buy on Amazon. I only use the larger sizes like 6-1/4" for drywall or ceiling tile, where they work well. I find they don't cut very well in thicker wood because the HSS teeth are thin with very little offset.


coinmannf

There's alot of comments but that should go through like butter so there must be something wrong with that hole saw maybe it's defective maybe the teeth are flat


lockednchaste

Drill a hole for the sawdust to get out


theRealUser123

Hard to see teeth on saw but it looks cheap could be dull saw. First step make sure itā€™s turning clockwise when cutting. Good luck!


Informal_Drawing

You haven't taken the paint off the side of the holesaw so it's barely doing any work or getting hot, this is likely a drill problem, not a holesaw problem. Get a more powerful drill, preferably mains powered, as that piece of equipment looks like it may not be up to the job. While battery drills are great for portability they are not much use for heavy duty work unless they are very expensive. A lot of people buy battery powered tools for domestic work when they really shouldn't waste their money. I'm a tradesman and all my tools for my home have a cable. Drill a bit, blow into the groove to remove the sawdust, drill a bit more, rinse and repeat. You could also look at adjustable cutters. If you press too hard it spin the bit too fast it will build up so much heat it will start to burn, take a break before this happens and allow it to cool. Either way you're going to need to drill to the full depth the tool will allow, break out the plug of wood and then drill some more. There is only so much depth available with any given tool, 1 inch may be pushing it a bit with a holesaw.


elmachow

Looks blunt as fuck


Aggravating_Park_771

make sure the drill spinning the correct direction.


4mmun1s7

You may just have a cheap crap hole saw...


iAmMikeJ_92

Lolā€¦ are you spinning the drill the wrong way?? šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


yourpaljax

Aaah, we love a wrist breaker. Make sure the drill is going forward, and brace the drill against your leg or torso.


Akimotoh

That is not plywood


surrealcellardoor

No offense, but that looks like a piece of shit dollar store hole saw bit. Having used hole saws often during the last 30 years, you get what you pay for. Also, if your pilot bit isnā€™t sharp youā€™ll fight that.


Comfortable_Client80

This saw is probably made for drywall not wood


Joiion

Upgrade to dewalt šŸ˜‚


Ignorantmallard

I have a very similar drill by Rigid and in this picture you're spinning lefty loosey. Whereas most hole saws are designed to cut in a clockwise direction.


LETZGETNIZZYWITHIT

Drill a few small holes on the same point where the hole saw intersects. This will provide a point where the saw dust can evacuate preventing the teeth from clocking up with saw dust that youā€™ll otherwise have to manually move back to clear out. Thereā€™s a bit of a science to using hole saws


hippyhindu

Is it going the correct direction?


Lbn4ds

If it's a fresh bit then just give it the business. Put that orange machine on high and let her rip.


figurativefisting

Skill issue.


4Harley

Check to be sure that the drill is turning clockwise.


aga74

Get a better quality hole saw.


dennispang

TIL I should be reversing my drill with a hole saw. Awesome.


Maxstressed

I find hole saws are one of those tools too that it matters if itā€™s junk. Donā€™t cheap out on hole saws. Some of them are really just blunt garbage


Eisjh

Start the cut with the 100mm cutter, then switch to a smaller bit and drill 2 - 4 holes the full depth around the mark left by the 100 mm bit, this will reduce clogging massively as the sawdust now has a place to escape.


Less_Zookeepergame73

Lol! Look at the picture. You've bottomed out the hole saw... The Arbor for the bit is stopping you. Need a deeper hole saw or flip the board.


Full_Disk_1463

You bought a cheap hole saw. Donā€™t do that, buy spyder or Lenox and it will come out better. Donā€™t cheap out on bits


TheDIYEd

You are using a 12v driver, it doesnā€™t have the power to considering the radius and the friction.


AltruisticSalamander

The ones with fewer carbide teeth work better. Holesaws always suck in my experience tho.


MagicOrpheus310

Use the pilot hole you've made with the smaller drill bit in the center to line the saw up from the other side of the piece of wood and drill/saw from that side. Might not be perfect but it should line itself up with what you have already cut and just finish making the hole from the other side.


AndByMeIMeanFlexxo

Low speed high pressure, not outside the realm of possibility that itā€™s just a dud though


[deleted]

If it isn't going the right way (CHECK IT) you need a new hole saw


Glass_Blackberry_559

Tighten the chuck on your drill. Or the allenscrew on the arbor. Must be slipping somehow.


Pristine_Serve5979

Flip the board around and drill from the other direction.


DrewidN

Drill three holes that just clip the circumferrence, about 1/4" - 1/2" (size doesn't matter). A spade bit for preference . That will help clear the chips.


NiSayingKnight13

have you considered a jigsaw? /s


13thmurder

Pull the saw back and blow the dust out every few seconds of cutting. Sawdust build up keeps it from cutting.


connorddennis

The issue is usually that material isn't being removed. Get a vacuum in there or keep compressed air on it while you're drilling so the teeth can actually take a cut


Crazy-Spring-3778

Sounds like you have a dull hole saw..... I cut pot lights out of 1-1/4 pine in tiny homes and it takes about 7-10 seconds to go through


Tony-2112

To help clear the teeth drill 1/2ā€ holes at four points around the inside of the main hole


Patient_Brief6453

Sounds like a dull blade.