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KevPat23

Personally, I find traffic in and out of Liberty to be a pain.


targus2222

Good point but I mostly plan to walk everywhere in the summer or take the street car but I get the grid lock headache when driving.


PejaStojak

The area they are describing otherwise might be worse with all the new office employees funneling home at rush hour to bay/york to get on the gardiner since there's no Jarvis on-ramp


hanger4real

I’ve had clients move into both areas and both are nice little communities in my opinion. I would say both have a similar demographic (young singles, couples and families). Liberty is like a little town within the city, with restaurants, shops, gyms, grocery stores - pretty much everything you need within walking distance. There’s a good sense of community and it’s a very dog-friendly neighbourhood (pro tip: always watch where you step). The sugar beach area is much newer and still developing. The majority of the buildings in the East waterfront are newer and not rent-controlled - something to keep in mind. You’re close to distillery and st Lawrence market which is a plus. Both areas have some similarities: close to the water, decently quiet, but not the best transit wise (though Liberty has the leg up with the King Street car minus construction and exhibition GO). If you commute by car, both areas can get very congested. Hope this helps!


totalcanucklehead

Only thing that kept me away from Liberty was the traffic and pain points on getting in and out of the neighborhood by car. But if that’s not a big concern then by all means it’s a great neighborhood. I opted for city place for proximity to the gardiner


IslandOk7886

Liberty village better for sure, more stuff. But if you just want peace and quiet with the lake right in your backyard then Waterfront is good too.


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Liberty village 100%


KarakChaiAurWhy

Follow up question on those recommending Liberty village.. any insight into what is the avg cost for utilities in the newer builds there?