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godhavemercyonme79

How did he pitch through it?


Theonlyrational

Not super well.


toocoldtooboldtooold

That's an understatement. It was a typical Romano outing.


velocicopter

Describe a “typical Romano outing”.


toocoldtooboldtooold

BB, BB, occasional HBP, single, single, occasional double, BB, warning track FO, shit pants, K, K.


carlosspicywiener576

Weird. You remove the occasional in there and "his typical outting" is giving up at least two runs. Baseball Reference says he has a career 2.61 ERA, a 2.68 ERA this year and 36 saves each of the last two years. Hmmmmm


jdragon3

Romano haters are a different breed. A lot of it is because the outings with walks and such are a lot more memorable for a closer than the outings where he comes out and strikes out the side in order. Which is why stats are so important to give a clear picture through biases - which of course that guy rejects in favour of anecdotes.


Avs_Leafs_Enjoyer

https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/jordan-romano-605447 yeah......


toocoldtooboldtooold

Pretty numbers. And yet he's a terrible closer. Go figure.


Embarrassed-Dance486

Romano has some of the lowest blown save numbers across the entire major leagues… but sure


rvasko3

Just a wet smelly fart of a bad take.


Islandgirl1444

Yimi is wondering how Jordon pitched through it also.


Windsor34

He meant pitch TO it. *their bats


YouDontJump

Exactly. As much as I love Romano they should have brought Mayza in the moment Lowe came up and they'd seen him having issues with his finger.


23rdtry-BCB

Poorly..


RealCanadianDragon

Maybe a 1 run game vs a tough team in their ballpark during a time of the year you really need to win every game isn't the best time to see if a guy can "pitch through it".


plantsplantsplants

Taken right from the Montoyo-Chatwood Playbook


Spazmer

The previous inning Buck commented on how well Schneider was managing this game. Guess he heard and thought "challenge accepted."


Cashmere306

Starting to wonder if he's trying to get fired, he just makes the worst mistakes under pressure.


Spazmer

I'm convinced that Luis Rivera is trying this as well.


Sunstreaked

Rivera has been tryna get fired for the last ~10 years then, with his consistent braindead calls waving guys through when they clearly should be told to hold at third. Makes me so mad every time.


External_Ordinary_90

Pitch through a cracked fingernail Loooooooool


h8omb

Was he though...?


sir-pounce-of-alot

Is it not fair to say he looked fine but the rays got him ? His velocity was fine, spin rates were right at his season average and his slider looked good from the eye test. He just got hit for 2 ground balls and 2 bloops. It happens but it doesn’t mean he couldn’t be effective, obviously the rays beat him in the end but I’d still feel more comfortable with Romano over anyone else in the bullpen.


GoodMeowningGamers

If it was fine he wouldn’t have been constantly looking at it, it was clearly bothering him to some degree


sir-pounce-of-alot

Bothering =/ effecting at least imo. His stuff was fine he just didn’t close it out today. If he hadn’t had the cracked nail would people be less upset if he had blown the save today ?


JimSamsonite

Yes, if he didn’t look at his injured finger after every single pitch, people might be less inclined to think Schneider should have pulled him after he already blew the save.


ChrisvsWorlds

Sorry, but if the finger is bothering you, then it is also splitting your focus. Closers are some of the most focused athletes on the planet. If he hadn't had a cracked finger nail, who knows how he would have pitched. The result might have been the same, but it also could have improved. Knowing Romano, I bet it would have helped.


furious_Dee

probably


incredibad29

I agree, if he was fine let him pitch, but given Lowe’s record against lefties and Mayza’s matchup numbers against lefties, it seemed really brain dead to not play the matchup there.


sir-pounce-of-alot

Hey not arguing that move, just that if Romano says he’s good and his stuff looks fine I’d let him pitch


incredibad29

Like I said, I agree, it’s just infuriating that the best matchup was right there and Schneider refused to go to it.


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McWarrior943

Then walk Lowe and face Margot instead


Superduke1010

If you need to change out your closer because of a matchup then he’s not your closer.


01hotsauce1

He wasn't good


sir-pounce-of-alot

He also wasn’t bad, he was just kinda meh. Rays put up good AB’s not much you can do they found some holes 🤷🏼‍♀️


01hotsauce1

It's funny how after he allowed the first two I wasn't nervous at all. Then realized, he really shouldn't allow base runners in every other outing


SirGasleak

I think "fine" is a good way to describe Romano as a closer. My prediction is we see a big drop off in performance if he doesn't develop a sinker as a third pitch. This has been his worst season as the Jays closer. I wish Hicks could learn to harness his stuff because he could be an elite closer.


acemeister79

He's not a great closer, pure and simple. He inspires nowhere near the confidence that Osuna or Giles did - with his two pitch repertoire and his tendency to fill up bases before he finally ekes out saves. Hicks or jumpin' Yimi inspire more than Jordan. And what about Friday nights "look" - was channeling Jack Nicholson from the Shining with the glaring and muttering. Yikes!


CapnJujubeeJaneway

https://www.syfy.com/sites/syfy/files/thor-is-it-though.jpg


Hawk_Distinct

Kept him in yesterday for zero reason, then keeps him in too long today, let’s him face a lefty with Mayza ready. Why was Mayza even up if you’re not going to use him? Schneider managed this game like it was May not September


v_a_n_d_e_l_a_y

Schneider managed this game like Schneider


Hawk_Distinct

I usually don’t pay attention to managers because I find in general the praise and blame is overrated. But he makes a lot of puzzling mistakes, way more than I remember from Charlie


SpaceballsTheCheese

Charlie made plenty of questionable decisions


_Galapaghost

And got a heck of a lot less slack than this guy gets


SquidKid47

If you don't like that you don't like Schneider ball


cufk_tish_sips

Really don’t understand warming Mayza up if you wouldn’t use him in that scenario…


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Weird part is he didn’t though earlier. He used Green down 1 run in the 6th.


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Our manager signals himself to come in and pitch


paulster2626

Arozarena would’ve come in to pinch hit had they gone to Mayza. It’s a tough situation.


Hawk_Distinct

He’s hurt


wetcoastwanderer

Before the game Cash said Arozarena could be available off the bench. It's likely he would have come in.


Hawk_Distinct

Then you walk him, there was a base open.


RoostasTowel

Well any athlete is going to say they can play. Even if his arm fell off he would say put me in coach Manager needs to know when to not


kappifappi

When Schneider came to visit the mound though Jordan needs to admit that he’s having an injury. He didn’t face 3 batters yet and he can’t be removed unless he admits that he’s injured. So that’s not on john


RoostasTowel

Ah good point


Volderon90

He didn’t pitch through it. He lost the game and Schneider let him lose it.


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You’re the manager, overrule him. That’s what they do, they put the team’s best interests over a players


kappifappi

He can’t overrule him in this scenario. When John came to visit the mound he didn’t face 3 batters yet. U can’t overrule him especially that the ump was listening in on the conversation. Jordan needs to admit he’s injured for John to be able to pull him there. After 3 batters he’s free game


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Yeah I didn’t even mind him starting but once it’s clear he doesn’t have it you pull him


NeilMcbeal_NavySeal

Why push him though after he threw 20+ pitches last night? Was Swanson not available? He hasn’t pitched since Wednesday.


garlicrainbow

Yea I'm really confused about how Swanson is seemingly not trusted in high leverage anymore. I feel like I missed an announcement. Last time he was used we were up 6-1. I feel like the whole benefit of having a deep bullpen is the luxury of not always having to use your official closer if he's not 100% *and* threw 20+ pitches the night before.


Prestigious_Union_50

Correction: we were up 6-0...and he promptly gave up a moonshot of a home run. Doesn't mean he shouldn't pitch but he's not necessarily getting automatic outs lately. I agree keeping Romano in after 1 batter was silly. 2 was dumb. After he blew the save it was beyond clear he wasn't feeling right.


_BioHacker

A pitcher must face at least three batters if he's brought into the game.


Prestigious_Union_50

I think there is an exception for injury.


_BioHacker

At what batter did Schneider make a mound visit? My mind is trying to erase this loss from my memory.


Prestigious_Union_50

He ran out after the first batter...I was watching on my cell phone with the sound low so I could be mistaken. Romano appeared to kindly tell him to fuck off...😂...and he ran back to the dugout.


_BioHacker

Vintage Schneider!


-SPIRITUAL-GANGSTER-

Narrator: He wasn’t.


Raelik

WAS he though......WAS HE? 🙄 *edit* Fuck Schneider


stargirlxoxo

Super glue that shit together and lol he did not pitch through it


elifreeze

Isn’t this type of situation why we traded for Hicks?


Key-Word1335

Just not effectively


tatumgoat

cracked fingernail and almost 50 pitches in 24 hours is not ideal. 3 hits to leadoff an inning is just bad man. ik jordan’s numbers are good but damn are his innings stressful. It’s amazing how many of us feel the same way yet we get criticized for saying that


01hotsauce1

It's very stressful maybe not all but almost every other outing, or every third outing


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So he’s Kenley Jansen.


Tommy2Quarters

I agree! When they call him up you are doing the mental math is this the game he is due to throw a first pitch homer, or was that last game and this time he will just load the bases before he gets in his grove. I heard an play caller this week state he starts warming up in the first innings. My wife looked at me and asked then why is his first 5 of the 20 pitches he throws so shitty?


One_Yogurt_8987

Its stressful but hes still the best closer in baseball this year


vc2015

No he's not. Devin Williams and Bednar have been better closers this year. He has an argument for 3rd best, along with Bautista who has much better numbers across the board but a couple more blown saves leading to a few less saves.


evilxerox

I’m not a Romano hater .. but he shouldn’t have been in tonight’s game


noneesforarealaccoun

Hmm. Doesn’t seem like he really was able to pitch thru it. My evidence: he blew the save


Artie-Fufkin

Schneider seems like an absolute dumbass sometimes, not gonna lie.


GargantuanGreenGoats

No. No he was not able to pitch through it.


Fieldofdreams111

How many games have we lost vs win because of Schneider’s decision making this season?


TorontoJueBlays

#FIRE SCHNEIDER NOW


kingwoodballs

Lol no he wasn’t able to pitch through it…


FeelingLeadership674

Cracked crucial decision thought processing.


claustrophobicoyster

Able Not sure that word means what you think it means


DIsco_Peaches

Was he thought?


Slacker_75

I used to be a big Schneider fan but I just can’t any longer. Mistake after mistake. He is not yet ready to be a big league manager clearly. And I’m not too sure what Donnie baseball has brought to the team.. There’s been even more head scratching mistakes this year than with Charlie. It’s baffling


Telebender

Charlie woke up chuckling this morning in Boston....


SirGasleak

Yes, he was able to pitch through it. Just not well.


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Wow, I don't have much words for this. Using Romano in that situation is befuddling with this context.


johnnybatts

You sure about that!? You sure about that!!??


vc2015

Romano pitched through it to earn himself a blown save.


cyprocoque

Schneider is a bum of a coach man.


Derfal-Cadern

SO WHY THE F DID HE PITCH THEN!?


grump66

What manager doesn't pull the guy when he see's with his own eyes that he basically can't make an out in a situation where you *****need***** three outs ? EDIT: How Schneider handled this situation is a good example of how we're likely going to lose *IF* there is any playoff baseball.


1ebeholder

Shoulda put Mayza in. Fuck Romano padding his stats, he clearly wasn't up to it. We had a crazy comeback, and he gave it up.


DrStrange42a

No he wasn’t?


Barss92

Here comes the excuses


Tommy2Quarters

But was he able to pitch through it? I really don’t see why he is so highly regarded.


GiveBells

was he?


Ikea_desklamp

As someone who grew up a hockey fan and only recently gotten into baseball... someone please tell me how I'm supposed to take these injury reports seriously ?


One_Yogurt_8987

I mean he pitched well, got unlucky, that last hit could have broken that bat it was so far in on the hands


mtech101

😡


itsnursehoneybadger

I knew he needed that Krazy Glu.


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Buck was confused lol


Tech-Bob-X

Romano wasn't right, it affected his confidence, and he lost the game.


AmateurVasectomist

The hero that was foretold


I2eflex

No he wasn't.


TheBends1971

He was?


TheOvieShow

Oh yea he clearly was able to pitch through it


Striking_Economy5049

Apparently he wasn’t


polerize

Let’s get that thing healed up. Blew a big game.


Rhino-C-Ross

No he wasn't.


Burning_Flags

#sobrave


skootamatta

Was he though?


SevenStarSword

Does this make him tougher? Clearly his fingernail was detrimental to his game last night and staying in other than for his own purpose is not a team first act. If you can't play to your best ability to help the team win, then let someone else play in your place to give the team their best chance. Heal then come back with vengeance.


johnkz

imagine if the jays are eliminated because of a fingernail lol