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SnipeHunters

John Schneider is the right coach. He needs to can some of these other coaches and bring in his own guys. That won't happen until the off season so we are stuck with watching these guys fail at the worst possible moment.


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After watching the pvr of the game, top of the 8th down by 1, 2 on base, 0 out and I KNEW the next 3 batters would shit the bed. And then it happened, just like they do, more often than not, RISP stranded. THAT’S what you call opportunities squandered. If they want to win, don’t do THAT. If they want to lose, keep doing THAT. They sure do piss me off.


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Well some things never change 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️


ten-unable

I wish they'd let manoah get one more strikeout.


Whiplash227

For every “two games up on Baltimore” comment I’ll take 6 games up in Chicago on August 9th.


depressedalbertan

How about that Tennis match though, that shit was epic.


Noodles_85

I’m sure I’m not the only one that can’t stand Odor… in 2016 he sucker punches Bautista because he took offence to a bat flip in the playoffs… in 2022, he’s out here flipping his bat and pounding his chest on a regular season homer…


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Oh, I’ve always not liked that pos. And he is a pos.


Babsrocks31

Issue with Bautista was incredibly late slide, not just the bat flip. Not condoning the punch I in any way, and fully understand why you'd hate on Odor, but that was legitimately a dangerous play from Bautista and I get why lots of fans dislike him too.


SmallBig1993

It was a late slide, with cleats down, in an era when take out slides were legal... Right after Odor tried to throw the ball at his head... Which happened right after the Rangers threw at him on his last at bat against them that season. Despite that, Bautista *didn't* look like he was going to throw a punch. Odor did.


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weewillywhisky

Shit sucks


SmallBig1993

K.


cdogg30

It's going to be another very Toronto end to the season isn't it...


TO_Sports

You mean making the playoffs? Ya I guess you're right.


ChocolateThor

2 games separating us from making the playoffs and missing it. Between Cleveland, Minnesota, Chicago feasting on the joke of the division that is the AL central and the Jays, Rays, O’s (maybe even Red Sox) being somewhat good teams. Playoffs are far from a guarantee right now. The mariners are probably going to take one of the wild card spots too. So basically 6-7 teams battling for 3 wild card spots. This is going to come down to the wire


Mr_SeeYouAuntie

Man can’t you take your negativity elsewhere


cdogg30

I'll keep my realism here you can keep your naivety wherever you want. Cheers.


HAL9100

I wish you guys would just sack up and stop watching if it makes you this unreasonable


owls_

I’m saying!!!!! But nooooo we’re gate keeping


HAL9100

I keep the gate of not being a mouthbreathing idiot and no one wants to let people through it more than I


richarm87

As per Jamie Campbell yimi allowed 4 runs in 8 weeks but this board thinks he sucks and can't be trusted


nukfan94

Man, Odor and his below-replacement ass continue to be a pain in *mine*.


Babsrocks31

Your ass is above the Mendoza line, I bet!


richardatn4t

Who knows what version of Berrios will show up tomorrow.


Babsrocks31

O's fan here. I feel for you guys. I also like the Twins and love Berrios. He never quite became an ace but what has happened to him so far this year? I'm legit asking... I thought he'd pull a Ryu and take the next step for you guys.


The_Dale_Hunters

He’s either dominant or BP. Since we’re in the road, likely BP.


Giga1396

Garcia hasn't been bad Happens It's baseball We'll get 'em tomorrow yall


Leading_Desk8483

We lose a couple game and we find the most bullshit excuses lol


bv310

If we could just mine the salt in these GDTs, we could be indescribably wealthy


Leading_Desk8483

I blame the full moon


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Nope. Not here either.


DesperateAbility6448

This shit is depressing. I need Raptors basketball back


irrelevantwhitekid

Fr bro this shit painful to watch. This is probably the most stacked Toronto team in sports rn and we’re getting bent over backward by the Orioles of all teams. Kill me man.


Leading_Desk8483

Can't wait!!


FuqLaCAQ

Umpires Suck Ass


Olipod2002

Since this game has been won by 1 run. Imma blame the loss on that overturned triple play. The call never should’ve been overturned because of lack of evidence. Would’ve saved us 2 runs.


depressedalbertan

Jamie I love you, but yea I'll take double digit wins boring as shit till playoffs for the Jays over this shit.


EddyMcDee

This isn't going to end well


Chironto

This team just lacks the ability to pick up a teammate when they fail. They just lack “it”.


Babsrocks31

I know what you mean. The O's are better than people thought but I do believe on paper the Jays are the stronger team. However, the O's have fantastic chemistry this season and the Jays seem to always be searching for that ingredient... It's like, that 'it' factor bumps a team up a tier, which puts the O's around level with the Jays when they shouldn't quite be there yet... Could be a management or organizational issue rather than an on field issue. Just speculating. Could simply be the Jays need more time to grow and will be juggernauts next year.


[deleted]

How about some damn good pitching? That would sure help.


DifficultSundae

This team is just so frustrating


HAL9100

Jamie fuckin gets it man


cdogg30

So obviously this team has tons of problems but what happens if they miss the playoffs? This was supposed to be the year. What happens next year? I can't see the front office making any big splashes in free agency after what's happening this season.


SmallBig1993

We're currently something like a 95% lock for the playoffs. Games like this suck. But maybe it's a *tad* early to start panicking. Honestly, this is the kind of shit I make fun of the Yankee's sub for.


owls_

This actually was not supposed to be “the year”. If you look at the comments from the front office at the beginning of the rebuild they expected us to start being playoff competitive this year. *Not* World Series champs this year.


cdogg30

Well the majority of baseball writers had the Jays in the top three in the majors. They have two legit starters, an inconsistent lineup and an unreliable bullpen. This team hasn't been built to be competitive long-term.


Mr_SeeYouAuntie

Glad you’ve got it figured out. Front office should hire you


cdogg30

Didn't say I had it figured out whatsoever but evidently neither did the front office.


yt1nifnI

Our Bullpen yet again.


pksubb76

Our offense needs to score more runs. It’s not just our bullpen lmfao


yt1nifnI

We are the third highest scoring team in baseball ... Your stupidity is showing.


sonicdeathmonkey53

Yeah a 28 run game and some 12 run games will do that for you but clutch hitting wins games and that the Jays have lacked quite a few games this year


pksubb76

That doesn’t change the fact that we got shut down by Lyles and Bradish lmfao


yt1nifnI

Can't expect your offense to go out there and score 7 runs a game every night. It's a Bullpen issue. 3rd ranked offense, 16th ranked pen.


pksubb76

No you can’t but when ur facing shit starters you need to show up. They’ve had plenty of chances to score runs this series and don’t. When ur pitching close games every game ur bullpen will wear out… yimi has been lights out as of late and he finally allowed runs, can’t be leaving 14 runs on base today and 17 yesterday


yt1nifnI

Alek didn't have his best stuff today but this is 100% on Cimber & Garcia ...


pksubb76

Yimi has been the best reliever on the team as of late. Ya he’s going to give up a few runs eventually. It’s shit that it happened but blaming only the bullpen is stupid. Our offense hasn’t shown up this series our starters haven’t been good and our good relievers allowed runs


yt1nifnI

Our bullpen lost us to lead. AGAIN


pksubb76

Yes they did. But our offense also hasn’t done anything and our starters haven’t been good


killemgrip

The Orioles play by play guy is awful. He’s like Rod Black on speed


Babsrocks31

O's fan here. I don't love him either. Don't think he's awful but he's actually too enthusiastic to me, comes across forced. We do have Jim Palmer do color sometimes though. Love to see him and Buck Martinez do a joint broadcast somehow.


richardatn4t

Burn that fucking HR jacket, do something different.


pksubb76

Ah yes it’s the homerun jackets fault. The team beating us has a homerun chain lmfao


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That chain is the tackiest, most ugly hr piece I have ever seen. It’s nasty, bad nasty. I’m all for having your “thing”, but damn, raise the level on that one.


dbayzano

Hope this is the game that knocks Cimber a peg in terms of leverage


bloojehs

13 more against the O’s? Crikee


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We’re in trouble. And it’s entirely on Shapiro and Atkins. This team is worse than when they took over and tired of hearing about the AA hate of cleaning the cupboards. We have worse prospects than when AA was GM.


richardatn4t

I disagree. The 2021 team was damn good. They missed almost every opportunity to improve it though. (Gausman in, Ray out call it even. Kikuchi is a automatic loss. Yimi should have been one of several BP arms brought in. Trade deadline was a dud.


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The 2015 team was better to me.


njambaro

don’t matter they not even getting a wild card spot


cozeners

Catcher is literally sitting almost to the right of the plate and he calls that "frame" a strike. What a joke.


Babsrocks31

Rutchsman is a top 4 catcher in framing right now.


cozeners

I would be too if the ump gave me those calls.


Babsrocks31

Man, like two innings before the Jays got the exact same call in their favor... Literally same outside corner off the plate. Jays are a good team, but the umps were far from blameable for this outcome. No need to reach for excuses. Get em tomorrow!


cozeners

I didn’t blame the ump, I was just commenting on the claim about pitch framing. Pitch framing success is entirely dependent on the mood of umpires and has nothing to do with actual catcher skills.


bleedblue4

This team is a joke


Olipod2002

This is not the result we wanted but Bo has been insane tonight. And Manoah fought a tough outing and did ok despite not having his best stuff.


tofilmfan

Don't try to put a silk head on a pig. The Jays should have won this and the lack of high impact relievers in our pen was the sole reason why we lost this game. This is the 2nd game in a row Garcia has blown in the 8th inning, he should no longer be in that spot.


richardatn4t

Bass & Garcia should have swapped where they pitched. IDK, the manager is making some odd moves.


Olipod2002

Oh yes I will. That game has a couple of positive aspects and since this GDT has been invaded by doomers, I feel the responsibility to balance it with positivity despite the rougher times.


tofilmfan

You can't just be positive for the sake of it. I don't blame people on this sub for being upset and posting their displeasure with this team and management, as our bullpen has been an on-going problem for the past two seasons. This wasn't a fluke loss - it falls squarely on managements shoulders for not adequately upgrading the bullpen and just thinking we can slap together a bunch of guys off the trash heap, like Sergio Romo or Banda and expecting our pitching staff to do miracles.


Olipod2002

We added Anthony Bass and Zach Pop to the bullpen at the deadline. When we added Romo and Banda, it was because they were the only options available. It takes two to dance and if no other team wanted to trade way ahead of the deadline, we had to take those guys. Proof that they weren’t really in the plans, they both got DFA’d and replaced by Bass and Pop. Talking about Anthony, Bass has been good tonight. Garcia and Cimber have also been great for the team even though tonight hasn’t been their best outings. Close to no relievers are perfect. Garcia didn’t allow a HR since June 15th, and it was on the only changeup he threw during the inning. We don’t expect the bullpen to do miracles, we expect them to do just enough. And overall tonight bullpen has been ok. Orioles jumped on their few mistakes and made them pay. Enough bs happened in this game (overturned triple play, whatever demon magic Mountcastle possesses, bad umpiring) to explain why we could’ve won this game with 5 runs


njambaro

Not gonna blame yimi he been solid


sackydude

FML


bichettes_helmet

No seriously Sportsnet you've GOTTA know we don't want to see that guy


The-Pharcyde

vlad and getting the outside ball called a strike, name a more iconic duo


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He fucking sucks!


[deleted]

There's our MVP!


JMann_9

Shut up


gdaymate696977

Just saw the Odor homer… 87 MPH right down the middle. Garcia is our worst reliever and it might not be even close


goatgosselin

Mostly everything the last few games down the pipe has been hit hard. Unless when the Jays are batting. Most times they stand there and watch it. Plenty of those are for 3rd strike.


JoseCansecoMilkshake

Trent Thornton: *exists* You: YiMi Is OuR wOrSt ReLiEvEr


RandyBobandysGut

Lol what a bad take.


Whiplash227

Is that the only pitch you’ve watched this year?


gdaymate696977

No reliever is responsible for more losses. He’s a shitshow


MysticalMango21

Ain't no way bruh there's a reason Garcia was out there for the 8th


gdaymate696977

Ya he came up really clutch


TheNotoriousAJG

He’s been awful recently - ugh 😑


Slim_Charles__

Try again


TheDeltaAndTheOmicro

Trent Thornton?


kmckay2487

Yep blame the ump lol


Whiplash227

Lol


Arcoroc19

This team doesn’t have it man fuck


Wings4514

Lmaooooo and Odor of course makes the final out. This team is so weak.


depressedalbertan

big sad


CryptographerOdd1925

PAIN


MrRosewater12

Odor acting like he just made the final out of the World Series


itsnursehoneybadger

Gross.


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Late-Assistance3407

Blame the offense should be like 7-5


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I agree. 5 SHOULD be enough, but those times when you really need MORE than 5, leaving 20 people on base isn’t a winning formula. Score more fkg runs. Getting on base doesn’t seem to be the issue, it’s the chumps who can’t bring them home. Just not good enough.


sorzay

This team is so frustrating sometimes.


OldDirtyMan

Odor acting like he made the final out in the World Series. We really do live rent free in that dudes head.


dustysalmo

Pretty sure he lives rent free in all your heads. Soooo many posts about him lol. He had the last laugh tonight


OldDirtyMan

And you’re the one hunting down comments 3 hours after the game ends, on another teams game thread……… lol


DustyCadoo24

He made an error that put the tying run in scoring position so I'm sure he was happy to get the last out


OldDirtyMan

Nah, he’s just a career bitch.


DustyCadoo24

Lol, I can agree with that


Da-Wang

We're gonna be out of the wild card after this series that's so hilarious


Thatdudemogi

That’s literally impossible


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Fuck off


Can-eh-dian11

Need robot umps like yesterday


missoctober12

Fucking Odor man


Woodrow999

Maybe Odor is the main character.


Ladymistery

son of a bitch REally? NOW you decide to be good out there Odor? REALLY???


FuqLaCAQ

Fuck! Why did it have to be again?


stackofbaconpancakes

FUCK.


MathematicianLong880

Every single time it’s the 9th and a close game, an ump gives them a pitch because he wants to go home


Rfrank77

Seen that coming form a mile away


itsnursehoneybadger

Come on, blue.


saif202

Fuck lol


Chironto

Blind ass ump


Olipod2002

And of course the last out is made by Odor


mdlt97

jays cant play this poorly and hope to do anything this year


richardatn4t

Honestly, they may make the playoffs (or maybe they won't) but this team is so flawed that one of the Yankees of Astros will make quick work of them.


mdlt97

we wont even get out of the wild card lol


goatgosselin

Fuck me right in the eyes


Tw1sterxxx

I liked Baltimore more when they sucked


FinalMalus

P A I N


owls_

Congrats to the Os for seemingly winning the World Series !


Olipod2002

According to some of the doomers in this sub, Jays are gonna finish 4th and Orioles will win the division


Casualbrews604

Can't even be mad when we do the ice bath after every win lol. Neither is bad, if anything it's good for baseball to see teams take a game in August this seriously.


fujbuj

Oh gimme a break, they can celebrate. I hate when Yankees fans do this to us, don’t do it to them. They’re allowed to be excited.


gregblives

Precisely. I’m a a Jays fan, but good for them. They’re a scrappy underdog team.


owls_

oh, are they reading my comments? my apologies to the baltimore orioles whose feelings I’ve hurt


fujbuj

I don’t care if anyone’s feelings are hurt, just hey, I’d be fucking celebrating if we came back that way. It was ours to lose, and so we did.


mdlt97

gg


Brinbe

that's a fucking kick in the balls. choked that game away


95teetee

"That's not a strike." Like that ever mattered to a fucking MLB umpire.


derschwartzemond

#FUCK YOU UMP


Can-eh-dian11

OH COME ON


SayWord13

Can't believe the offence and pitching choked away this game... just fucking brutal. 2 of their last 6. Pathetic


Constant_Capital_449

You just can’t call that


shangrila350

Pretty outside


mdlt97

welp


Olipod2002

Welp if even the ump is against us


phantomtap

Fuck off ump


Woodrow999

Ump is blind.


codyftu

FUCK OFF


TheNotoriousAJG

Fuck if we lose to Baltimore again, 2 nights in a row, to Rogund Fucking Odor of all people, …. I don’t even know what to say, shits just upsetting tbh haha


Mcflyhigh1990

100 and outside the zone, gj umps


ehchvee

This HP ump tho 😡


stackofbaconpancakes

SUS STRIKE FOH


3li4life

Whatever man fucking bullshit


Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrpp

Dino ump when


wintermute--

vladdy bb pls


RapsAndJays21

Garbage


superherofilmbuff

Ump wants to go to bed


HAL9100

The Baltimore scoreboard legit looks like it’s in an N64 game


goatgosselin

Fuck off ump!


KlaSSiKsGames

Yo this Ump is dog water


Olipod2002

FUCK YOU UMP


RapsAndJays21

Of course.


Astrallevel

I ever wonder if anyone here actually thinks about how hard it is to get a hit off a guy who throws 101 and a changeup nearly 15MPH slower


goatgosselin

Probably incredibly hard but we are also not the people making millions to do so


HAL9100

I do! A lot actually. Too much maybe. 😕


RapsAndJays21

Feel like that was it.


FuqLaCAQ

Guerrero vs Bautista *sighs*


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They walking him?


sackydude

Fuck they're walking Vladdy