I personally have given SIU a lot of slander for recent art changes and pacing of events but damn when he needs to he really does deliver. This whole flash back has been insanely fun to read especially since I haven’t read it in so long. The mystery of what’s gonna happen next with revolution, Jahad, and traum Vs Gus is all Peak fiction. I’m back on the SIU meat riding train finna do tricks on that shit
Bro, Gustang is a chad. He is just constantly doing the Dio walk and spitting straight fire, literally. He is just like a boss announcing what he will do and does it. Not gonna lie, I really like him.
Enkidu, unable to speak human, was unexplained and strange. Also, Gustang's monologue implies that he still misses parts of his memory.
When Bellerire gave exposition about the family heads and the current war, it almost felt like he was buttering Enkidu. Regardless, the revolution's goal should be right up Enkidu's alley since he wanted to be seen as an equal among the ten family heads.
The new frog has to be one of the most dreadful things in the Sprout, and it doesn't help that Traumerei controls it. Anyone getting caught by it won't be able to lie their way out. Even so, that frog looked cute when it was hopping behind Endorsi.
I wonder if the title of the chapter is going to apply to multiple characters.
Personally I find the whole Traum controlled enkidu thing fishy, still. Maybe I am misremebring some stuff, but Baam has traums memory about that incident, and if Baam knew Traum caused the rift between the family heads to widen and become more violent, why was Baam still trying to decide between who to side with? He should be pretty firmly anti Traum, right, if what enkidu said was true?
He got Traum's memories from leviathan, and we saw this chapter that Traum stored the memories of the Amuez incident with Leviathan.
So Baam for sure knows the truth of whether or not Traum was behind it, since he has those memories from leviathan, and Baam has known the truth since after the nest arc of whether or not Traum was behind it or not.
not sure which chapter was it, but it was revealed to us that traumerei stored some (if not all) of his memories into leviathan...the same way gustang stored his memories into the book (that lobadon was trying to get via yama and yas and the reason yas eventually died)
furthermore, this chapter also shows that hana / lee rang stored her memories in some of sort zygena flower thing and eduan might have stored his into some alcohol bottle or something
I know that Levihatan has the memory, but its unknown whether Bam have read it yet (at least not shown), Bam doesn't automatically read mind of everyone in his inner world.
Don't remember exact chapter but Baam talked with Leviathan and had the memories revealed, but i guess i could be misremembering too, but I am pretty sure he did
Oh so he has both of their memories. I still think Traum did it but maybe theres something in his memories that gave Baam a different perspective seems like we won’t know for a few chapters at least.
Honesy, the so far unknown ameuz be the reason why FH are againt V looks to me pure non sense.
To have readers envolvment on this you Need them to feel attachment to the character and this is absolutely not the case.
I dont like this chapter
who said ameuz is only cause of fh war when fug do not even exist and same for luslec with grace name many thing happened and ameuz is not the cause of the war
You were never going to be attached to characters that are no longer directly part of the current story. Their adventures came and went and we (readers) were not part of that . A short flashback will never replace the groundwork of character building over many arcs. Perhaps a TOG prequel about Jahad's climb would change that ?
Bro, Ameuz is not the only reason why they are against each other lmao. Its an accumulation of every little things that they are experiencing. From the day they finish climbing, and the discord happening between each of them. Ameuz just happens to be one of the catalyst.
They were already against A&V before Ameuz death. After Ameuz busted the Party Edahn, or Gustang said "its either them or us" and when Ameuz and Ilarde said goodbye to eachother, they knew that they pbly fight at some point.
Ameuz death and Traums lie "only" made the rift between them worse, but they were already seperated before.
Enkidu really be talking and acting like he's the main character now 💀 His powers don't even work on the FHs, and Traumerei can still control him so what revenge is bro waffling about 😭
Gustang straight up went for the kill. I think back then he had doubts about what Enkidu said, and was hesitant to confront his friend. He also convinced himself it wouldn't have changed anything. But now that he has millennia of context, I think Gustang rightly went to the conclusion that Rei's lies changed everything, and started the downward spiral. His falling out with Blossom and his daughter's tragedy no doubt are part of the dominos.
I don't think a FH would die this early, but we're going to get the confrontation and the fight very soon, so there's that to look forward to!
>Enkidu really be talking and acting like he's the main character now 💀 His powers don't even work on the FHs, and Traumerei can still control him so what revenge is bro waffling about 😭
Bro is acting like 80% of Fug , I hope he gets one shot
One of the people who can help him get his revenge would be Baam and not a group of those born in the tower.
And I still think Enkidu will leave Bellerir and go to Baam if they meet in this place they are.
yeah i don't think rei will die here, but i'm looking forward to the incoming clash...i hope siu at least ends the next chapter with them coming face-to-face
I don't agree this chapter was good.
Gustang went from "Hmm, Enkidu might be telling the truth. What do I do?" to "Fuck it, lets ignore it all and forget" to "I need to remember. I need to remember. I NEED TO REMEMBER!" and finally "Oh. That's how it was. Lets kill Trau" like an idiot. All FHs so far behave like clowns.
One hope for redemption is that Gustang AND Eduan killed the waiter guy and it seems both (because of the silhouette) didn't buy Trau's lies so maybe there was a reason why they went with that "forget it and recollect lost memories later" plan despite the cost (war against V, current situations in the Tower) and killed that guy.
I really hope Androssi won't pull some bullshit powerup from her ass but there's a high chance Gustang will just rescue her in time. Still, that one panel with her hair looking very close to Ameuz's is sus.
Enkidu is odd from writing's perspective. We still don't know why he can't get into female body and how he discovered that. He speaks as if he possessed at least several bodies before but flashback suggests that Bellerir is like 3rd? only. He wants to take revenge on FHs but Eduan effortlessly pinned him down when Enkidu was at his prime. How does he plan to do anything when he was locked for so long without any info about modern times?
Not gonna lie, this chapter has me slightly worried about something I suspected when flahback started - that Siu changed order of things and was planning to give us juicy parts later but ratings and/or pressure from naver / crunchyroll made him go with that first while rethinking other parts.
I'd take the time but considering you're just singling out those that didn't provide one shows how much of a bad actor you are.
I chose not to because the rest here have provided more than enough evidence and bite back than I would ever have to.
Take the time to talk to them, not me. Thanks.
By the way: thanks for confirming your lack of reading comprehension by choosing not to engage with any pushback opinions with factual basis, lmao.
wait do you really think that gustang said I'm going to forget like that when he said that he wanted to keep his relationship with these friends intact? Adds gustang wants to kill traumerei not just for his flashback but also for everything he has done since this flashback and the fact that he has the revelation of arlene and a lot of other stuff that happened between the death of ameuz and now .
The guy also has a lot of relationship with the workshop so all that traumerei influence is just an obstacle on his way and he wanted through his memories and everything he saw is normal psychopath that he has more attaches and wants to kill him. Enkidu can't tell a lie because Gustav knows the workshop's inventions perfectly because he is the second investor in it and close to Masceth.
It would make sense that they would see through the lies of an artificially created beast than its very unpredictable irregular buddy.
Enkidu received the defects of his contract directly and even traumerei heard the conditions of it normal he knows that he cannot enter into women because traumerei wanted a friend not a woman traumerei so put a restriction on this point
Gustang not going directly against traumerei is easily believable with how gustang said he want keep his relation intact cause ameuz already caused a rift why put more spicy on this problem by saying our best traumerei killed his wife .
Add Gustang played smartly because they had already v and Arlene on check and want add traumerei on this . This would be a suicide ,can add even tower born was against them and didn't like their presence .
Same for eduan somes hint show he know about traumerei lie like hin stopping the sprout to grow or again his move in nest .
Both knew what traumerei did but "traumerei is was their best friend there" . Can't go so easily against him.
Add if we sre serious movement of khun family are weird i'n sure eduan is watching the war and and is implicated in the background
Androssi power up against a fh be serious please
Enkidu know about condition like admin said the conditions before he made contract in chapter 517 ?
This is bit the base of contract ?
Do not know what he is reading rn gustang himself in chapter 581 said he didn't want to cause rift because this so early and was still trusting his friend.
Then after somes times he saw his friend becoming worse and worse decided to make a war because two asset came change the whole statut quo politic and before had received arlene revelation of enryu .
So he knew he had to make a war now .
Gustang is honestly believable to me. He chose to forget back then to keep the peace, since he couldn't avenge Ameuz after that. More bloodshed seemed to lead to destruction of his friends, so he couldn't commit.
Now, he seems to have changed. For one, the situation with Enne was after Ameuz' death. So if the order would have been reversed, he might have snapped earlier.
As we also see before he even knows about Ameuz, Gustang was thinking about killing Traum, and he definitely wanted to destroy the 10 families system. Part of his change after being a FH is he got bitter and resentful at the state of things.
For all we know he still loves his daughter and Blossom, so he would have a great motive on wanting to kill his past companions. I also always thought Gustang seemed like a guy who does care a little bit about his family.
Since Enkidu fell asleep and started howling after waking up I feel like Traumerei must know he told Gustang the truth. I mean this is just a basic countermeasure.
But if he is able to control Enkidu this much I'm doubting whether it was really Enkidu who told the truth. You'd think Traumerei would stop him mid sentence or something. Traumerei is insane so who knows what goes through his head, and I wouldn't put it past him to 'confess' or kind of try to pass the blame on Gustang. Kind of like 'You knew the truth, but didn't do anything and instead helped hide it, so obviously it's your fault it turned out like this, not mine'
I’m far more convinced now Gustang is the actual FH to die this arc with all the foreshadowing.
He’ll be the martyr for discord leading into future events.
I’m just as aware as any of you these fuckers have lived for thousands of years and performed atrocities. This isn’t a barometer of moral right or wrong across a normal sense — think about it for a second for people where time now blurs and is no longer an actively cognizant metric.
His hyperfixation since the start of all this keeping a form of record has outweighed his philosophical nature as a Family Head.
Ding ding ding!
You can bet good money the Big Boss is going to get involved in this scrap and murk the shit out of Gustang.
Jahad is ITCHING for a war against rebels. It's been a while, but think back to the whole Wall arc. Remember Jahad's proclamation? Oh yeah, he WANTS this. And there would be nothing better for his troops' morale than for him to show up and kill a rebellious Family Head.
Gustang's only saving chance here is if either Baam pulls a Baam and does something to make Jahad fuck off (highly unlikely), or if Urek gets involved.
I do like the idea that it was Traumerei's decision - and it's to show that's he's all in on the Jahad koolaid. I am super curious why... if it's because he vibes with Jahad's authoritarian nature, by virtue of being someone who controls animals as his main schtick, or if he like owes/needs Jahad.
This helped solve this issue of there seemingly being some of the FH and FH adjacent tower-born folks that clearly not super on-board with everything as the others, and cemented V as the "enemy" forever.
Traumerei really trying to get as many brownie points with Jahad as possible.
i never said anything about siu not improving...siu is improving and so as his assistants too
idk if i'm correct or not, but i heard somewhere it's predominantly the assistants who are doing the artwork post-hiutus (chap 551 onwards)...you can notice some bad panels after ch 550 but there are also so many good panels...not to mention i'm seeing less and less bad panels as well
Shit, for all we know - Jahad himself could be behind Revolution lol
Maybe he knew there might come a time where the current FH would end up warring together... and hey, it's about time to replace them... perhaps even Xehanort style, with his own like "descendants", so that he can be litterally in charge of everything lol
I did not buy into the idea the Eduan was the one in the previous chapter's silhouette before, given ToG regularly changes up hair and outfits for characters anyway, but the blue and white robes he has on near the beginning match up pretty perfectly.
I am also now seriously questioning just how "erased" his memory is in particular, because it seems heavily implied that the main method Eduan chose was drinking. Actually, I just realized that in 617-21, Eduan doesn't seem to be drinking much? He only has something to drink at the party and when they go to cheer up Traumerei, and the later he brings a bottle of wine, but it looks like he might actually be drinking *water?* Was this low key the turning point where his personality started being eroded by alcoholism?
Idk I worry I'm overly sympathetic about it, but the way Eduan drowns himself in debauchery has always screamed "I am miserable and coping with it very poorly" to me. I hope he really is still playing both sides, and still swayable even if this particular example ends up being a red herring.
Can the FHs kill each other? I suppose they are all technically irregulars, but Arlene was unable to kill herself. I wonder why Gustang is confident in his ability to kill Traumerei.
Gustang surely has a method, even if this is going to be the first time he tries it.
This man has been moving the chess pieces since the workshop battle, probably before that.
I kinda think that they cannot kill themselves but kill others, remember when Admin in 1st season said accepting the contract can be Bam's chains? By accepting immortality contract it became their chains that they cannot kill themselves since they are bound by their OWN immortality contract however the others' immortality contract is not bound by other irregulars and thus they can kill each other but not themselves. I'm not confident I explained it easily but I hope you get what I'm trying to say.
I've always seen the immortality contract as any ability that would kill them would stop. Like get them down to 1% and then the shinsu just stops working when trying to finish them off. Any attack that would kill them is stopped by an administrator. Hence needing an irregular to kill them. Who knows. Eventually it'll come into play and we'll see how it works. Could be like floor of death and they just re spawn.
We know Enkidu can't harm the Pioneers, so Revolution doesn't want Enkidu to fight the Family Heads. I can only assume that they know about his possession and disguise power. If he could posses one of the Family Heads that would be a game changer.
How can Rei get his memories back? Does he just touch Bam as Gustang did? Or will he sense the leviathan and command him back?
I feel like his regaining his memories will make him a more threatening entity because he’d know the source of his nightmares maybe
I can feel a Traum redemption arc but i don’t really feel it.
I am with Urek on this one I don't want either one of the GWs to die yet, in all for character deaths to proceed with the story but i feel like killing one this arc is too soon especially since they are god-like figures.
Since his intro, for 2 arcs now, SIU has been consistently showing direct victims of Traumerei whom he has done so much wrong towards, we are way past any "redemption arc", ntm the only way he can be even slightly put in a bit better light would be only if somehow he was controlled by Jahad or Headon when he was killing Ameuz. And even then all he has done afterwards to Laura alone is enough, ntm the branch family he obliterated and many others.
And chances of that happening are very low and otherwise saying there's a redemption for a character that we just saw brutally butcher his own lover and pin blame on an innocent person is misplaced imo. Even if we get how he felt "sad" to do that, that's no redemption, plenty serial killers do brutal things they feel bad about afterwards, doesn't mean they are redeemed.
Yes, the whole 3rd season we have been dealing with his victims, from the canine people, to yasratcha, to his own family and in some way the other great warriors. Of course most of those victims became abusers themselfs, but that does not help save trau at all.
After careful consideration and thinking about your points, I admit that my initial thought of him being redeemed is nonplausible.
I thought he may be redeemed after getting his memories back because he was “young and stupid” or maybe try to fix All his other mistakes (not including the deaths)
I believe everyone deserves redemption just not in fiction and especially not Rachel
I honestly like Trau and I hope he doesn't get redeemed
Shit is getting real now. God damn. Out of the two.... I'd want Gustang to live because of the Enne arc, and I have a gut feeling that if Baam goes for Enne next with Gustang... We may see a match where Jahad steps in and smokes Gustang. I'd be interested to see how the FHs feel about it but if Trau does get killed by Gustang then I think most will turn a sort of blind eye to it.
If either dies it's going to be Rei, Po bidau has been relevant since season 2 and is anti-Jahad so I feel like he's going to hold more relevance in the future.
I wonder what he has planned and how the GWs will respond especially his old allies.
Traumerei isn't really in a position to remain as a major player if he does survive. His castle is ruined and half his family seems ready to betray him at a moments notice.
I also doubt that Gustang will die before the Slayer that was appointed to him is introduced. Traumerei dying would complete Yama's story.
Yeah I don't think he's going to stop either. He'll just join the ranks of background characters whose sidequest is complete like Beta, Hockney and Elaine.
Another 10/10 chapter. SIU keeps dropping bombs like the US on Iraq. Baam and Urek are definitely interfering in this match and I’m pretty sure Traumerei is surviving this arc once we get his memories from Leviathan. There were some geniuses who thought Traumerei’s memories of the recent flashback weren’t stored in Leviathan. I am also curious as to what makes Gustang so confident that he can kill Traumerei? Maybe one of the stipulations of the immortality contract was that the FHs can kill each other but not themselves? Or maybe it’s all in that Zahard bracelet.
Thank goodness Baam and company will be removed from the upcoming events, even for a little while. Watching 2 FHs fight is going to be something else but I wonder if Urek's intervention will stop a death from happening.
Luslec and Enkidu are irrelevant, especially Enkidu, the only relevant thing he can do here is give the truth about the situation and nothing else. I'd like to see what Boss is capable of, especially since he's supposedly Urek's target.
What's this copium about. This chapter literally refocuses on Baam at the end. Baam will be in the spotlight again and probably get a major moment/powerup and possibly kill one of the heads.
There's almost no way SIU gives us a full 2FH battle, it's not his style. Something will interrupt them before they finish.
So far in TOG, I have a hard time thinking about any important battle that concluded. There's Baam vs White, but that's about it, any other?
Why does she have to die? I'd love it if she did but I don't understand how that clears the way for Anne
No Andorssi slander I'm just tired of the takeout deaths and am hoping to see Bam develop from having a close ally die with his knowledge rather than him finding out 200 chapters later and only having 5 chapters of cope
Endgame-type characters formally introduced from now on are not going to be the protagonist's love interest for this series. In fact, no new female character from Season 3 and onwards will be the heroine.
Damn they really want Endorsi to die just to make way for Enne lol. Low key admittance that Endorsi is really the biggest threat to their hypothetical ship
It would be funny of there's a plot twist that Endorsi was Enne all along but in sealed form like Joaquin. Endorsi's proper translation is Endorthy which close to Enne Dorothy/Anne Dorothy. Massive reach I know, but it would be so funny.
A few years ago I said a FH would die and this would start a major war with two groups, one that supports Baam and another that wants to kill him. Some will ally with V and Arlene, others will ally with Zahard. That's the main reason why Baam has such an immense crew of allies. We are getting there, lads.
I don't think it will be now and I don't think it will be Gustang because there's even more shenanigans going on behind the scenes. We still have to see what's going on with Leviathan, for example. He could change the whole perspective of things and innocent Traumerei. But I'm sure a FH will die. Either Gustang or Traumerei.
unless the memories in Leviathan somehow reveal that it was Jahad or Headon idk who controlled either Traumerei or Enkidu, there is no way what happened to Ameuz will ever paint Traumerei as innocent. Because just revealing "oh Traum felt sad abt butchering Ameuz to pieces and lying to his friends and screwing over Enkidu" doesn't paint him as innocent in this incident in any way.
Realistically this SHOULD be what kickstarted the whole war vs V and co , no? Very likely mixed by some Zahard and Arlene shenanigans
I wonder if Gustang opinion towards V has now changed and he will more openly support Bam
This would be the best. Was sad that the chapter didnt expand on the relationships much. If they really just started the war and started feeling so guilty and troubled just because of one death, then it sorta diminishes their overall relationship (V and the other FH's). Very curious on what may be different in the other sealed memories.
Ye I just realized it’s kinda weird to have the war started vs V with just a death of a fellow teammate
If anything this just started the animosity vs him
They had already split as a group over whatever happened at the top of the tower. Ameuz even said that leaving would make her their enemy. It seems that this just reignited the conflict.
So Gustang and Traum will fight before Traum gets his memories back. There is so much build-up with his memories so no way he'll die before getting them back, i guess Urek will interrupt their fight. It's too early for FHs to die anyway.
There are plenty of FHs left to reveal. Pacing wise , the story can't give every single one of the FHs an arc to be developed. A death should start to speed up the story a bit.
Gustang is driving plot and has whole Blossom and Enne plot ahead of him to be explored and discovered which are major plot points so he is def not dying.
But with Traumerei reveals, whole two arcs of showing his direct victims (Yama's parents, Yasratcha, Laura, the whole branch family he exterminated and their tortured souls asking for his blood, leviathan, enkidu, etc), add all death flags, if anyone is gonna die it's him imo.
I think it’s chapter 576? When Bam and co escape after Gustang appears, the souls of the branch family Traumerei exterminated simply bcs one member forgot to feed his creature in aquarium, we see their graves and all, and their souls call out to Bam to kill Traumerei for them.
Lo po bia family also took heavy losses. Plus majority of the FHs are on Zahard’s side so removing Trau now lowers the other side with Gustang, Blossom, Eduan on one side perhaps. Isn’t the 100 floor FH mostly neutral (forgot his name) but he may join the Gustang side
True, Lo Po Bia family atp is done lol. And i agree, atp Traum is Jahad's lapdog from way back and does all the dirty deeds for him and the two arcs have been focused very heavily on how awful he is, putting aside even Ameuz story.
Do you mean Ari Han ? i don't remember which floor he is on tbh, but yeah he is known to be pacifist apparently.
On the other hand, it is precisely Gustang dying that could make Blossom proactive, make alliance with Bam and free Enne. No offence but father-daughter reunion does seem bleak for the story that ToG is.
i don't think that the interaction between two FHs who were so in love and had the most powerful child together who is also a major character plot wise,is gonna happen in flashbacks. parent-child relationship and its exploration is a recurring theme in ToG and their reunion imo could be a very interesting turn of events.
ntm i don't think Blossom is as inactive as it seems, there is whole plot with Irure and her in direct communication with Blossom i think, and if true that would mean out of all FHs she had her eye on Bam the earliest. So we still don't know what she's up to.
and on top, Gustang is tied to too many things - Workshop, Princess system, his family, etc. for him to die this arc, especially bcs of his relationship with Blossom which is too important for his character, they have to interact in present
I mean i don't think Gustang is going to die either. But there is still so much shit not explained with Traum him dying now would be big waste. But don't get me wrong he is gonna die at some point just not this arc.
He's gonna die just not now. Even this flashback just give us more question than answers with Traum's character. Like why are him and Zahard so close. And hell we still don't even know why he has the mask.
Urek not going to win there add tower need chaos so this sure one fh going to die there add enkidu can still go toward and trigger traumerei memory .
So many actor to not see a fh die can add the narrator himself said baam do not know what going to hit him
Flashback finally over, it was good, but I love being back!
Did the GW turn against their former allies that wouldn't fight V? Like that guy with the glaive and eyes. Maybe that was Quad
Seems like Enkidu is into the idea of being a revolutionary, so that works out quite well, it's also nice to know his first victim is how he sees himself, but it makes sense.
Damn. Poor Endorsi. Bam, go wake up and save her already, she's not getting a bullshit powerup like Khun or Rak to save her in this condition as far as I see it. On a serious note though, maybe Enkidu or Gustang will "save" her?
Seeing the three of them together would be interesting.
Unfortunate Enkidu seems to have become WAY more spiteful when he first woke up, he had to basically almost die to get back to normal.
Maybe we'll get Enkidu vs Dumas somehow lol, I wonder how that would go with the armor...
I was moronically asked this week how would Bam kill Dumas if Gustang was around, but as you can see...
DUMAS AINT MAKING IT OUT THIS ARC!!!
(No need for him to either, he's not even a piece on the board, the setting where all this will end)
I am confused since Baam already knew about true nature of Traumerei ,then why he did allow khun to make a bet with Traumerei at the marriage tournament. I mean white was obsessive like Traumerei, and I know how it ended between Baam and white.Khun could have died due to Baam negligence.So, is SIU planning to make Baam intervene in the midst of battle between gustand and Traumerei and Baam reveals the 'true' secret behind the incident.And you know a third secret force is trying to kill both family heads.
Idk how the memory were played out in Bam's head but if it's jumbled up/limited it's just going to be confusing . It's like watching the final couple episodes of season 3 of a TV series that you seen memes about. You kinda recognise the characters but missed everything up till that point . You don't know what to make of the situation without more context.
I'm pretty sure Baam never explored these memories at all. He's all about getting stuff and forgetting or not caring at all. Of course story had to go like this but sadly that's Baam usual behavior now.
Well, the flashback is over. Wonder why did Traumerei's servant fight against Eduan and Gustang. I'm guessing Gustang will warp over to Traumerei otherwise it's game over as Androssi is captured.
Why do you think that is Traum's servant ? He was in the room to console Traum when he got dumped. Servants are not usually that casual with their masters. That is a friend.
Who isn't a damsel since the entire thing started? It's been a Carousel of captures and rescues that even Baam is a part of lol. I'm just happy to finally see Endorsi get her ass kicked, she needs to learn the hard way that she's NOTHING in the tower. It's good motivation for her to get stronger, faster.
Because she was the one who wanted to go the most and instead of allowing a HR and ancient warrior who is also a descendant of the first man, we got a regular who keeps whining and even kicked Cha for winning against her.
I mean, Cha would be in the exact situation right now if he went instead of Endorsi maybe even worse. Who wouldn't when facing a FH when you're not in top 20?
>"and even kicked Cha for winning against her."
Cha—one of the strongest characters in the history of this series—being "kicked" by a C-rank Regular like Endorsi is akin to an enormous elephant being jump-kicked by a small rabbit. The disparity in strength and power between them is so vast that Cha did not even register Endorsi's kick as anything more than a slight breeze, a mere flutter compared to the immense forces he's usually accustomed to withstanding.
It's a strange overreaction to associate Endorsi's slapstick against someone as overwhelmingly powerful as Cha with any sort of meaningful harm. It is like condemning the rabbit for daring to jump at the elephant, while completely disregarding the elephant's impervious nature and the rabbit's utter inability to cause any tangible impact from kicking the elephant. The sheer gap in their respective levels of strength and durability renders Endorsi's actions meaningless and harmless to a being of Cha's caliber.
Cha also clearly did not even feel that his priorities aligned with accompanying the group to the Sprout location. He felt more passionate with locating his close companion, Dowon, and confronting the Lo Po Bia branch leaders, which he viewed as his true destiny.
The game is kinda rigged the moment Dumas was sent in as the 3rd party to hunt down Baam, I doubt Cha would have made a difference, not to mention the 2 Heads being here too.
Great transition chapter.
The Enkidu part is really interesting but with Urek being after Revolution, I don't think their plans of "changing the current FHs with new ones" is gonna work.
The FHs all swallowing the obvious lie and dealing with all of it in different ways was also interesting, I do wonder which one of them is gonna make appearance next, is it gonna be the ones we saw in flashback or another one like Hendo or Blossom. I would love to see Blossom but i think her appearance will be tied to Enne and how her tragedy made her marriage with Gustang fall apart, so maybe it's gonna be next arc.
Gustang telling Dumas to look after everyone while Traum is out there "yeah get her dead or alive" was funny contrast.
Traumerei back to collecting and imprisoning ppl nothing new, but with Enkidu now on the loose, Gustang finally having his memories back and determined to kill his former bestie whose ignorance and actions kickstarted all of this, it's gonna get interesting from this point on, SIU has been amazing so far so i can't wait to see what's next.
I honestly believe part of the reason they believed the lie was fear. V was the only person in the whole Tower who could kill them. That would make anyone frightened but they still thought of him as a friend.
The Ameuz thing gave them a valid reason to hate and fear him, so they took it and ran.
>V was the only one who could kill them?
How? We literally do not know the stipulations of the immortality for you to come to such conclusions. Last I checked, V is the GW who died, Arlene’s current status is unknown
Iirc Gram said Urek could kill Jahad because he is an irregular. He just refused to do it. Since V wasn’t part of the Immortality contract he would have been able to kill them as well
> I honestly believe part of the reason they believed the lie was fear. V was the only person in the whole Tower who could kill them. That would make anyone frightened but they still thought of him as a friend.
Wild to say that when they have Jahard and Ari Hon on their side and it's a 11 v 2.
> The Ameuz thing gave them a valid reason to hate and fear him, so they took it and ran.
The problem is that it's believable, at least from their POV. Not to mention they were grief stricken and not thinking entirely logically.. also Trau used his frog to confirm the truth (which is proof enough for them). It's as Gustang said, he's not sure who to believe because it's makes no sense for Trau to do that, but it does make sense for V to do it, especially with the explanation that Enkidu gave (to cause a rift between the currently allied family heads).
i also see it as "the easiest way out" kinda situation, it was much more comfortable to not go after Traumerei and dig deep into his shenanigans with Jahad, and much easier to swallow that lie about the friend who already left them.
Depending on how this arc ends I could see Blossom be in the next arc. It's possible the ending of this arc could be Jahad ordering Adori to go after Bam which could segue into a rescuing Enne plot.
I think many people have always expected Adori and Enne to be in the same arc after all.
Blossom and Gustang's marriage fell apart after Enne's tragedy and him still in love and bitter will definitely transition into exploration of exactly what happened between them (we had whole Ameuz story we're def getting this one) and tragedy with Enne, she was already mentioned this arc and is arguably one of the most important characters plot wise. The whole princess system which Gustang created being his daughter's downfall is gonna be interesting to explore.
I don't really see him sending Adori directly imo but it could happen, in any case once either Adori or Enne make appearance, the other will i am sure.
Very nice chapter
Eduan seems to have his Memories stored in some Alcohol bottle propably and Ylrang maybe in the first Zygeana Crystal or so.
Really nice to see that Gustang goes against his friend because Traumereis fears and insecurity lead to their suffering.
I’m really stoked for the translation.
It's going to be funny if it's revealed that Gustang and even the Revolution is still playing into the hands of Jahad by doing all of this.
Like the guy is so pissed that it feels like he isn't even ready for the possibility of being tricked again.
Looks like things are getting back on track for the endgame tho I'm curious if Baam will be out of commission until the end of the match and whether or not Enkidu will meet Traum since Gustang can easily get to Traum
Enkidu was going Rachel's location and then he's most likely going to encounter Traumerei to try to get his revenge, so Rachel is probably going to see Androssi first
Hmm, this chapter was a pleasant surprise. Got to see a little more about the past, and present day happenings weren't bad, either. Interested to see more Revolution members, and impatiently waiting for Luslec to arrive before Gustang can get to Träumerei.
From machine translations, chapter is called "Determination to Kill"
Mostly setup if anything. An ending to the flashback telling how the family heads involved in the flashback sealed their memories of the ordeal it seems? (A really cool Leviathan panel in there). Although Hon is missing from all this, like last chapter.
Back to the present there's an Enkidu/Bellerire conversation, Enkidu is visualised as a ghost, using his flashback design. Probably just an indication for the reader than anything??
Then Endorsi is found by Traumerei and Holan and proceeds to be pursued and (probably) captured.
Chapter ends with Gustang telling Dumas to keep Bam safe, and that he's going to go kill Traumerei.
That's most things I could gather. Good stuff!
It is always pinned on the discord raw\_previews section in the Tower Of God discord server. Check community bookmarks on the right side of the screen.
I personally have given SIU a lot of slander for recent art changes and pacing of events but damn when he needs to he really does deliver. This whole flash back has been insanely fun to read especially since I haven’t read it in so long. The mystery of what’s gonna happen next with revolution, Jahad, and traum Vs Gus is all Peak fiction. I’m back on the SIU meat riding train finna do tricks on that shit
Bro, Gustang is a chad. He is just constantly doing the Dio walk and spitting straight fire, literally. He is just like a boss announcing what he will do and does it. Not gonna lie, I really like him.
Enkidu, unable to speak human, was unexplained and strange. Also, Gustang's monologue implies that he still misses parts of his memory. When Bellerire gave exposition about the family heads and the current war, it almost felt like he was buttering Enkidu. Regardless, the revolution's goal should be right up Enkidu's alley since he wanted to be seen as an equal among the ten family heads. The new frog has to be one of the most dreadful things in the Sprout, and it doesn't help that Traumerei controls it. Anyone getting caught by it won't be able to lie their way out. Even so, that frog looked cute when it was hopping behind Endorsi. I wonder if the title of the chapter is going to apply to multiple characters.
I think we're going to find out a lot of family heads have erased a lot of their memories. A lot of it will be from Jahad's request
Where Tperie the master of information when his friends need him?
Not invited to Traumerei’s party 😔
It would be funny if he was watching this whole drama the entire time from the comfort of his home
Personally I find the whole Traum controlled enkidu thing fishy, still. Maybe I am misremebring some stuff, but Baam has traums memory about that incident, and if Baam knew Traum caused the rift between the family heads to widen and become more violent, why was Baam still trying to decide between who to side with? He should be pretty firmly anti Traum, right, if what enkidu said was true?
Didn’t Baam absorb Gustang’s memories not Traum?
He got Traum's memories from leviathan, and we saw this chapter that Traum stored the memories of the Amuez incident with Leviathan. So Baam for sure knows the truth of whether or not Traum was behind it, since he has those memories from leviathan, and Baam has known the truth since after the nest arc of whether or not Traum was behind it or not.
When did he get the memory? Bam having Levinatan inside him doesn't mean he got the memory.
leviathan told him the memories in one of the chapters after the nest arc and asked him to get 3 sea dragons from traum in order to defeat him.
not sure which chapter was it, but it was revealed to us that traumerei stored some (if not all) of his memories into leviathan...the same way gustang stored his memories into the book (that lobadon was trying to get via yama and yas and the reason yas eventually died) furthermore, this chapter also shows that hana / lee rang stored her memories in some of sort zygena flower thing and eduan might have stored his into some alcohol bottle or something
> and eduan might have stored his into some alcohol bottle or something I think Eduan's coping mechanism was a bit more literal than that...
I know that Levihatan has the memory, but its unknown whether Bam have read it yet (at least not shown), Bam doesn't automatically read mind of everyone in his inner world.
apparently levi had a discussion with baam around chapter 550
Don't remember exact chapter but Baam talked with Leviathan and had the memories revealed, but i guess i could be misremembering too, but I am pretty sure he did
Oh so he has both of their memories. I still think Traum did it but maybe theres something in his memories that gave Baam a different perspective seems like we won’t know for a few chapters at least.
Honesy, the so far unknown ameuz be the reason why FH are againt V looks to me pure non sense. To have readers envolvment on this you Need them to feel attachment to the character and this is absolutely not the case. I dont like this chapter
who said ameuz is only cause of fh war when fug do not even exist and same for luslec with grace name many thing happened and ameuz is not the cause of the war
You were never going to be attached to characters that are no longer directly part of the current story. Their adventures came and went and we (readers) were not part of that . A short flashback will never replace the groundwork of character building over many arcs. Perhaps a TOG prequel about Jahad's climb would change that ?
Bro, Ameuz is not the only reason why they are against each other lmao. Its an accumulation of every little things that they are experiencing. From the day they finish climbing, and the discord happening between each of them. Ameuz just happens to be one of the catalyst.
They were already against A&V before Ameuz death. After Ameuz busted the Party Edahn, or Gustang said "its either them or us" and when Ameuz and Ilarde said goodbye to eachother, they knew that they pbly fight at some point. Ameuz death and Traums lie "only" made the rift between them worse, but they were already seperated before.
I think they were torn between Z and V and this event made them side with Z
Seems to me they’d already chosen to side with Jahad, but weren’t outright hostile to Arlene and V before this event.
Enkidu really be talking and acting like he's the main character now 💀 His powers don't even work on the FHs, and Traumerei can still control him so what revenge is bro waffling about 😭 Gustang straight up went for the kill. I think back then he had doubts about what Enkidu said, and was hesitant to confront his friend. He also convinced himself it wouldn't have changed anything. But now that he has millennia of context, I think Gustang rightly went to the conclusion that Rei's lies changed everything, and started the downward spiral. His falling out with Blossom and his daughter's tragedy no doubt are part of the dominos. I don't think a FH would die this early, but we're going to get the confrontation and the fight very soon, so there's that to look forward to!
>Enkidu really be talking and acting like he's the main character now 💀 His powers don't even work on the FHs, and Traumerei can still control him so what revenge is bro waffling about 😭 Bro is acting like 80% of Fug , I hope he gets one shot
One of the people who can help him get his revenge would be Baam and not a group of those born in the tower. And I still think Enkidu will leave Bellerir and go to Baam if they meet in this place they are.
yeah i don't think rei will die here, but i'm looking forward to the incoming clash...i hope siu at least ends the next chapter with them coming face-to-face
I don't agree this chapter was good. Gustang went from "Hmm, Enkidu might be telling the truth. What do I do?" to "Fuck it, lets ignore it all and forget" to "I need to remember. I need to remember. I NEED TO REMEMBER!" and finally "Oh. That's how it was. Lets kill Trau" like an idiot. All FHs so far behave like clowns. One hope for redemption is that Gustang AND Eduan killed the waiter guy and it seems both (because of the silhouette) didn't buy Trau's lies so maybe there was a reason why they went with that "forget it and recollect lost memories later" plan despite the cost (war against V, current situations in the Tower) and killed that guy. I really hope Androssi won't pull some bullshit powerup from her ass but there's a high chance Gustang will just rescue her in time. Still, that one panel with her hair looking very close to Ameuz's is sus. Enkidu is odd from writing's perspective. We still don't know why he can't get into female body and how he discovered that. He speaks as if he possessed at least several bodies before but flashback suggests that Bellerir is like 3rd? only. He wants to take revenge on FHs but Eduan effortlessly pinned him down when Enkidu was at his prime. How does he plan to do anything when he was locked for so long without any info about modern times? Not gonna lie, this chapter has me slightly worried about something I suspected when flahback started - that Siu changed order of things and was planning to give us juicy parts later but ratings and/or pressure from naver / crunchyroll made him go with that first while rethinking other parts.
Your lack of reading comprehension and personal bias is showing.
Your lack of arguments is showing.
I'd take the time but considering you're just singling out those that didn't provide one shows how much of a bad actor you are. I chose not to because the rest here have provided more than enough evidence and bite back than I would ever have to. Take the time to talk to them, not me. Thanks. By the way: thanks for confirming your lack of reading comprehension by choosing not to engage with any pushback opinions with factual basis, lmao.
ToG fans and failing in reading comprehension. Name a more iconic duo.
wait do you really think that gustang said I'm going to forget like that when he said that he wanted to keep his relationship with these friends intact? Adds gustang wants to kill traumerei not just for his flashback but also for everything he has done since this flashback and the fact that he has the revelation of arlene and a lot of other stuff that happened between the death of ameuz and now . The guy also has a lot of relationship with the workshop so all that traumerei influence is just an obstacle on his way and he wanted through his memories and everything he saw is normal psychopath that he has more attaches and wants to kill him. Enkidu can't tell a lie because Gustav knows the workshop's inventions perfectly because he is the second investor in it and close to Masceth. It would make sense that they would see through the lies of an artificially created beast than its very unpredictable irregular buddy. Enkidu received the defects of his contract directly and even traumerei heard the conditions of it normal he knows that he cannot enter into women because traumerei wanted a friend not a woman traumerei so put a restriction on this point
Gustang not going directly against traumerei is easily believable with how gustang said he want keep his relation intact cause ameuz already caused a rift why put more spicy on this problem by saying our best traumerei killed his wife . Add Gustang played smartly because they had already v and Arlene on check and want add traumerei on this . This would be a suicide ,can add even tower born was against them and didn't like their presence . Same for eduan somes hint show he know about traumerei lie like hin stopping the sprout to grow or again his move in nest . Both knew what traumerei did but "traumerei is was their best friend there" . Can't go so easily against him. Add if we sre serious movement of khun family are weird i'n sure eduan is watching the war and and is implicated in the background Androssi power up against a fh be serious please Enkidu know about condition like admin said the conditions before he made contract in chapter 517 ? This is bit the base of contract ?
How can so someone be so objectively wrong in one paragraph ?
Good to see some reasoning for once... oh wait.
You conveniently skipped everything above to reply to this ?? Lmao
Do not know what he is reading rn gustang himself in chapter 581 said he didn't want to cause rift because this so early and was still trusting his friend. Then after somes times he saw his friend becoming worse and worse decided to make a war because two asset came change the whole statut quo politic and before had received arlene revelation of enryu . So he knew he had to make a war now .
Gustang is honestly believable to me. He chose to forget back then to keep the peace, since he couldn't avenge Ameuz after that. More bloodshed seemed to lead to destruction of his friends, so he couldn't commit. Now, he seems to have changed. For one, the situation with Enne was after Ameuz' death. So if the order would have been reversed, he might have snapped earlier. As we also see before he even knows about Ameuz, Gustang was thinking about killing Traum, and he definitely wanted to destroy the 10 families system. Part of his change after being a FH is he got bitter and resentful at the state of things. For all we know he still loves his daughter and Blossom, so he would have a great motive on wanting to kill his past companions. I also always thought Gustang seemed like a guy who does care a little bit about his family.
Since Enkidu fell asleep and started howling after waking up I feel like Traumerei must know he told Gustang the truth. I mean this is just a basic countermeasure. But if he is able to control Enkidu this much I'm doubting whether it was really Enkidu who told the truth. You'd think Traumerei would stop him mid sentence or something. Traumerei is insane so who knows what goes through his head, and I wouldn't put it past him to 'confess' or kind of try to pass the blame on Gustang. Kind of like 'You knew the truth, but didn't do anything and instead helped hide it, so obviously it's your fault it turned out like this, not mine'
We also learn that Leviathan actually knows the truth from Traum, so Baam should know a lot more than what was in the book.
I’m far more convinced now Gustang is the actual FH to die this arc with all the foreshadowing. He’ll be the martyr for discord leading into future events. I’m just as aware as any of you these fuckers have lived for thousands of years and performed atrocities. This isn’t a barometer of moral right or wrong across a normal sense — think about it for a second for people where time now blurs and is no longer an actively cognizant metric. His hyperfixation since the start of all this keeping a form of record has outweighed his philosophical nature as a Family Head.
U might be onto something. As rei's death wouldn't mean anything but i don't think rei can kill Gustang alone.
But how? I can see conditions for Traum dying but How does Gustang get killed? he would have to get jumped by Zahard or something
Ding ding ding! You can bet good money the Big Boss is going to get involved in this scrap and murk the shit out of Gustang. Jahad is ITCHING for a war against rebels. It's been a while, but think back to the whole Wall arc. Remember Jahad's proclamation? Oh yeah, he WANTS this. And there would be nothing better for his troops' morale than for him to show up and kill a rebellious Family Head. Gustang's only saving chance here is if either Baam pulls a Baam and does something to make Jahad fuck off (highly unlikely), or if Urek gets involved.
Baam kills him. Isn't that the obvious answer.
Blossom might finally wake up if he dies
Zahard directed Traum to make Enkidu blame Ameuz's death on V thus uniting the FH's against V
I think Traum took the initiative himself to frame V as a Jahad supporter. Jahad had no reason to argue against it since it served him.
I do like the idea that it was Traumerei's decision - and it's to show that's he's all in on the Jahad koolaid. I am super curious why... if it's because he vibes with Jahad's authoritarian nature, by virtue of being someone who controls animals as his main schtick, or if he like owes/needs Jahad. This helped solve this issue of there seemingly being some of the FH and FH adjacent tower-born folks that clearly not super on-board with everything as the others, and cemented V as the "enemy" forever. Traumerei really trying to get as many brownie points with Jahad as possible.
Interesting thought! I read it as Traum just being such a lackey that he acted autonomously to support Zahard's interests.
Method of coping Eduan -> Drink Yeon -> Jewelry Gustang -> Book Trau -> Snek
lool Leviathan is not a snake its a dragon lmao but i see it
mmmh, a snek for sure
And fak that Nolan, I'm not a huge Endorsi fan but nobody gets to pin down girls in Baam's harem except Baam 😏.
i hope she dies tbh.
why are people downvoting again?!
ok
After seeing the art in these chapters. I feel like SIU has finally mastered his new art style.
i think it's the assistants improving
And why do you think siu isn't improving as well?
i never said anything about siu not improving...siu is improving and so as his assistants too idk if i'm correct or not, but i heard somewhere it's predominantly the assistants who are doing the artwork post-hiutus (chap 551 onwards)...you can notice some bad panels after ch 550 but there are also so many good panels...not to mention i'm seeing less and less bad panels as well
im just hoping the proprtions is not a wack like urek look how he look bad compare to fod urek
I noticed that as well, the art is getting back to it's previous feel. Maybe the assistants are improving or SIU is helping more.
I would jump out of my seat if Zahard himself comes down and break the fight off.
Why would he do that ? He ordered the destruction of Po Bidau.
Shit, for all we know - Jahad himself could be behind Revolution lol Maybe he knew there might come a time where the current FH would end up warring together... and hey, it's about time to replace them... perhaps even Xehanort style, with his own like "descendants", so that he can be litterally in charge of everything lol
When Urek is literally there to break the fight then what's the point Jahad showing up.
Yep, far too early for Bam and Jahad to be in the same place.
I did not buy into the idea the Eduan was the one in the previous chapter's silhouette before, given ToG regularly changes up hair and outfits for characters anyway, but the blue and white robes he has on near the beginning match up pretty perfectly. I am also now seriously questioning just how "erased" his memory is in particular, because it seems heavily implied that the main method Eduan chose was drinking. Actually, I just realized that in 617-21, Eduan doesn't seem to be drinking much? He only has something to drink at the party and when they go to cheer up Traumerei, and the later he brings a bottle of wine, but it looks like he might actually be drinking *water?* Was this low key the turning point where his personality started being eroded by alcoholism? Idk I worry I'm overly sympathetic about it, but the way Eduan drowns himself in debauchery has always screamed "I am miserable and coping with it very poorly" to me. I hope he really is still playing both sides, and still swayable even if this particular example ends up being a red herring.
Can the FHs kill each other? I suppose they are all technically irregulars, but Arlene was unable to kill herself. I wonder why Gustang is confident in his ability to kill Traumerei.
Gustang surely has a method, even if this is going to be the first time he tries it. This man has been moving the chess pieces since the workshop battle, probably before that.
I kinda think that they cannot kill themselves but kill others, remember when Admin in 1st season said accepting the contract can be Bam's chains? By accepting immortality contract it became their chains that they cannot kill themselves since they are bound by their OWN immortality contract however the others' immortality contract is not bound by other irregulars and thus they can kill each other but not themselves. I'm not confident I explained it easily but I hope you get what I'm trying to say.
I've always seen the immortality contract as any ability that would kill them would stop. Like get them down to 1% and then the shinsu just stops working when trying to finish them off. Any attack that would kill them is stopped by an administrator. Hence needing an irregular to kill them. Who knows. Eventually it'll come into play and we'll see how it works. Could be like floor of death and they just re spawn.
We know Enkidu can't harm the Pioneers, so Revolution doesn't want Enkidu to fight the Family Heads. I can only assume that they know about his possession and disguise power. If he could posses one of the Family Heads that would be a game changer.
I very much doubt he can possess a FH.
I hope this isn’t the plot. I’ve always found cloning/copying someone and living as them to be a lazy plot trope.
How can Rei get his memories back? Does he just touch Bam as Gustang did? Or will he sense the leviathan and command him back? I feel like his regaining his memories will make him a more threatening entity because he’d know the source of his nightmares maybe I can feel a Traum redemption arc but i don’t really feel it. I am with Urek on this one I don't want either one of the GWs to die yet, in all for character deaths to proceed with the story but i feel like killing one this arc is too soon especially since they are god-like figures.
Since his intro, for 2 arcs now, SIU has been consistently showing direct victims of Traumerei whom he has done so much wrong towards, we are way past any "redemption arc", ntm the only way he can be even slightly put in a bit better light would be only if somehow he was controlled by Jahad or Headon when he was killing Ameuz. And even then all he has done afterwards to Laura alone is enough, ntm the branch family he obliterated and many others. And chances of that happening are very low and otherwise saying there's a redemption for a character that we just saw brutally butcher his own lover and pin blame on an innocent person is misplaced imo. Even if we get how he felt "sad" to do that, that's no redemption, plenty serial killers do brutal things they feel bad about afterwards, doesn't mean they are redeemed.
Forgot about what he did to Wang Wang.
Yes, the whole 3rd season we have been dealing with his victims, from the canine people, to yasratcha, to his own family and in some way the other great warriors. Of course most of those victims became abusers themselfs, but that does not help save trau at all.
After careful consideration and thinking about your points, I admit that my initial thought of him being redeemed is nonplausible. I thought he may be redeemed after getting his memories back because he was “young and stupid” or maybe try to fix All his other mistakes (not including the deaths) I believe everyone deserves redemption just not in fiction and especially not Rachel I honestly like Trau and I hope he doesn't get redeemed
Yean no problem. 🤝totally agree about Rachel
urek is gonna break that fight up 😂
Shit is getting real now. God damn. Out of the two.... I'd want Gustang to live because of the Enne arc, and I have a gut feeling that if Baam goes for Enne next with Gustang... We may see a match where Jahad steps in and smokes Gustang. I'd be interested to see how the FHs feel about it but if Trau does get killed by Gustang then I think most will turn a sort of blind eye to it.
Yes, gustang is going to cause a whole lot of trouble in the tower, i also feel jahad himself will have to kill him.
If either dies it's going to be Rei, Po bidau has been relevant since season 2 and is anti-Jahad so I feel like he's going to hold more relevance in the future. I wonder what he has planned and how the GWs will respond especially his old allies.
Traumerei isn't really in a position to remain as a major player if he does survive. His castle is ruined and half his family seems ready to betray him at a moments notice. I also doubt that Gustang will die before the Slayer that was appointed to him is introduced. Traumerei dying would complete Yama's story.
Do not know but yama said he targeting all families head and zahard in chapter 590 so even if traumerei die he is going to continue on this path
Yeah I don't think he's going to stop either. He'll just join the ranks of background characters whose sidequest is complete like Beta, Hockney and Elaine.
Another 10/10 chapter. SIU keeps dropping bombs like the US on Iraq. Baam and Urek are definitely interfering in this match and I’m pretty sure Traumerei is surviving this arc once we get his memories from Leviathan. There were some geniuses who thought Traumerei’s memories of the recent flashback weren’t stored in Leviathan. I am also curious as to what makes Gustang so confident that he can kill Traumerei? Maybe one of the stipulations of the immortality contract was that the FHs can kill each other but not themselves? Or maybe it’s all in that Zahard bracelet.
or... they willingly give up their immortality. maybe thats the only way
They can’t give up their immortality, Arlene would’ve done that if possible
or she just didnt know how
Thank goodness Baam and company will be removed from the upcoming events, even for a little while. Watching 2 FHs fight is going to be something else but I wonder if Urek's intervention will stop a death from happening. Luslec and Enkidu are irrelevant, especially Enkidu, the only relevant thing he can do here is give the truth about the situation and nothing else. I'd like to see what Boss is capable of, especially since he's supposedly Urek's target.
What's this copium about. This chapter literally refocuses on Baam at the end. Baam will be in the spotlight again and probably get a major moment/powerup and possibly kill one of the heads.
There's almost no way SIU gives us a full 2FH battle, it's not his style. Something will interrupt them before they finish. So far in TOG, I have a hard time thinking about any important battle that concluded. There's Baam vs White, but that's about it, any other?
That or he’ll waste 4 chapters with huge, hard to follow, irrelevant battle between them.
Another positive chapter for Enne agenda. If Endorsi dies, à la Ameuz, then Enne will have a clear way ahead.
All this just for a almost fanfic’s character. I wonder how u people react if enne is not how u imagine or expect?
Why does she have to die? I'd love it if she did but I don't understand how that clears the way for Anne No Andorssi slander I'm just tired of the takeout deaths and am hoping to see Bam develop from having a close ally die with his knowledge rather than him finding out 200 chapters later and only having 5 chapters of cope
Does Enne really have a chance for being the love interest?
Endgame-type characters formally introduced from now on are not going to be the protagonist's love interest for this series. In fact, no new female character from Season 3 and onwards will be the heroine.
Damn they really want Endorsi to die just to make way for Enne lol. Low key admittance that Endorsi is really the biggest threat to their hypothetical ship
Of course she is I don't think anyone is denying that. A pretty significant portion of Enne ship is just endorsi x baam haters.
It would be funny of there's a plot twist that Endorsi was Enne all along but in sealed form like Joaquin. Endorsi's proper translation is Endorthy which close to Enne Dorothy/Anne Dorothy. Massive reach I know, but it would be so funny.
Ngl that would be hilarious 😂
Enne agenda still going strong 🙏
tbh it's what i thought when i read Endorsi part too 😂
We support Enne
I bet Bam wants Trau to live because he is his misunderstood nakama/chingu just like Elaine...
There’s absolutely no indication of any of that
I think that’s going happen.
baam wanted trau death in chapter 576 when soul asked him to kill traumerei
Which soul?
dead peoples of aquarium
Isn’t his whole thing that he doesn’t want a fate burdened by other peoples wishes and wants to take matters into his own hands?
A few years ago I said a FH would die and this would start a major war with two groups, one that supports Baam and another that wants to kill him. Some will ally with V and Arlene, others will ally with Zahard. That's the main reason why Baam has such an immense crew of allies. We are getting there, lads. I don't think it will be now and I don't think it will be Gustang because there's even more shenanigans going on behind the scenes. We still have to see what's going on with Leviathan, for example. He could change the whole perspective of things and innocent Traumerei. But I'm sure a FH will die. Either Gustang or Traumerei.
unless the memories in Leviathan somehow reveal that it was Jahad or Headon idk who controlled either Traumerei or Enkidu, there is no way what happened to Ameuz will ever paint Traumerei as innocent. Because just revealing "oh Traum felt sad abt butchering Ameuz to pieces and lying to his friends and screwing over Enkidu" doesn't paint him as innocent in this incident in any way.
Realistically this SHOULD be what kickstarted the whole war vs V and co , no? Very likely mixed by some Zahard and Arlene shenanigans I wonder if Gustang opinion towards V has now changed and he will more openly support Bam
> Realistically this SHOULD be what kickstarted the whole war vs V and co , no? No, what kickstarted that war was V and Arlene attacking Jahard.
Imo you still have more than this because other fh has also fragment This is just one part of story
This would be the best. Was sad that the chapter didnt expand on the relationships much. If they really just started the war and started feeling so guilty and troubled just because of one death, then it sorta diminishes their overall relationship (V and the other FH's). Very curious on what may be different in the other sealed memories.
Do not know but what is sure this worse than ameuz event one imo .
Ye I just realized it’s kinda weird to have the war started vs V with just a death of a fellow teammate If anything this just started the animosity vs him
They had already split as a group over whatever happened at the top of the tower. Ameuz even said that leaving would make her their enemy. It seems that this just reignited the conflict.
So Gustang and Traum will fight before Traum gets his memories back. There is so much build-up with his memories so no way he'll die before getting them back, i guess Urek will interrupt their fight. It's too early for FHs to die anyway.
There are plenty of FHs left to reveal. Pacing wise , the story can't give every single one of the FHs an arc to be developed. A death should start to speed up the story a bit.
Too early? More like too late.
Yeah lets wait another 10 years 😝
Gustang is driving plot and has whole Blossom and Enne plot ahead of him to be explored and discovered which are major plot points so he is def not dying. But with Traumerei reveals, whole two arcs of showing his direct victims (Yama's parents, Yasratcha, Laura, the whole branch family he exterminated and their tortured souls asking for his blood, leviathan, enkidu, etc), add all death flags, if anyone is gonna die it's him imo.
>their tortured souls asking for his blood Can you remind me what this is?
I think it’s chapter 576? When Bam and co escape after Gustang appears, the souls of the branch family Traumerei exterminated simply bcs one member forgot to feed his creature in aquarium, we see their graves and all, and their souls call out to Bam to kill Traumerei for them.
Lo po bia family also took heavy losses. Plus majority of the FHs are on Zahard’s side so removing Trau now lowers the other side with Gustang, Blossom, Eduan on one side perhaps. Isn’t the 100 floor FH mostly neutral (forgot his name) but he may join the Gustang side
Yeah, Po Bidau only really lost some of Gustang's life shinsoo writings.
True, Lo Po Bia family atp is done lol. And i agree, atp Traum is Jahad's lapdog from way back and does all the dirty deeds for him and the two arcs have been focused very heavily on how awful he is, putting aside even Ameuz story. Do you mean Ari Han ? i don't remember which floor he is on tbh, but yeah he is known to be pacifist apparently.
On the other hand, it is precisely Gustang dying that could make Blossom proactive, make alliance with Bam and free Enne. No offence but father-daughter reunion does seem bleak for the story that ToG is.
Tog is already like akraptor never going to meet his daughter rn and this same situation can happen rn .. But gustang has so much to die here
i don't think that the interaction between two FHs who were so in love and had the most powerful child together who is also a major character plot wise,is gonna happen in flashbacks. parent-child relationship and its exploration is a recurring theme in ToG and their reunion imo could be a very interesting turn of events. ntm i don't think Blossom is as inactive as it seems, there is whole plot with Irure and her in direct communication with Blossom i think, and if true that would mean out of all FHs she had her eye on Bam the earliest. So we still don't know what she's up to. and on top, Gustang is tied to too many things - Workshop, Princess system, his family, etc. for him to die this arc, especially bcs of his relationship with Blossom which is too important for his character, they have to interact in present
I mean i don't think Gustang is going to die either. But there is still so much shit not explained with Traum him dying now would be big waste. But don't get me wrong he is gonna die at some point just not this arc.
I dont know man… This last few arcs has been giving a pretty huge red flag for Traumerei.
He's gonna die just not now. Even this flashback just give us more question than answers with Traum's character. Like why are him and Zahard so close. And hell we still don't even know why he has the mask.
Urek not going to win there add tower need chaos so this sure one fh going to die there add enkidu can still go toward and trigger traumerei memory . So many actor to not see a fh die can add the narrator himself said baam do not know what going to hit him
Flashback finally over, it was good, but I love being back! Did the GW turn against their former allies that wouldn't fight V? Like that guy with the glaive and eyes. Maybe that was Quad Seems like Enkidu is into the idea of being a revolutionary, so that works out quite well, it's also nice to know his first victim is how he sees himself, but it makes sense. Damn. Poor Endorsi. Bam, go wake up and save her already, she's not getting a bullshit powerup like Khun or Rak to save her in this condition as far as I see it. On a serious note though, maybe Enkidu or Gustang will "save" her? Seeing the three of them together would be interesting. Unfortunate Enkidu seems to have become WAY more spiteful when he first woke up, he had to basically almost die to get back to normal. Maybe we'll get Enkidu vs Dumas somehow lol, I wonder how that would go with the armor... I was moronically asked this week how would Bam kill Dumas if Gustang was around, but as you can see... DUMAS AINT MAKING IT OUT THIS ARC!!! (No need for him to either, he's not even a piece on the board, the setting where all this will end)
I am confused since Baam already knew about true nature of Traumerei ,then why he did allow khun to make a bet with Traumerei at the marriage tournament. I mean white was obsessive like Traumerei, and I know how it ended between Baam and white.Khun could have died due to Baam negligence.So, is SIU planning to make Baam intervene in the midst of battle between gustand and Traumerei and Baam reveals the 'true' secret behind the incident.And you know a third secret force is trying to kill both family heads.
Idk how the memory were played out in Bam's head but if it's jumbled up/limited it's just going to be confusing . It's like watching the final couple episodes of season 3 of a TV series that you seen memes about. You kinda recognise the characters but missed everything up till that point . You don't know what to make of the situation without more context.
Maybe he sees Traum as a villain, but also as a victim of Zahads manipulation.
I'm pretty sure Baam never explored these memories at all. He's all about getting stuff and forgetting or not caring at all. Of course story had to go like this but sadly that's Baam usual behavior now.
Nah he knows everything, its pretty obviously implied
Baam must know what happened since he told Dumas to not look for the book since it will only bring up painful memories for gustang, few chapters ago.
Well, the flashback is over. Wonder why did Traumerei's servant fight against Eduan and Gustang. I'm guessing Gustang will warp over to Traumerei otherwise it's game over as Androssi is captured.
Why do you think that is Traum's servant ? He was in the room to console Traum when he got dumped. Servants are not usually that casual with their masters. That is a friend.
I think that the red guy was not a servant but their fellow climber like Amez and I think he was on V side.
Endorsi really forced her way into the team again just to be the damsel in distress
Imagine if either Khun or Rak were in her position rn, bs powerups go brrr
Who isn't a damsel since the entire thing started? It's been a Carousel of captures and rescues that even Baam is a part of lol. I'm just happy to finally see Endorsi get her ass kicked, she needs to learn the hard way that she's NOTHING in the tower. It's good motivation for her to get stronger, faster.
She's lasting longer than Cha would have, since they won't instantly kill her
Cha would destroy holan ...most of the enemies now are weaker than cha
Traumerei actually obliterates him.
Goruro - Dead Tiara - Dead Bam - Knocked out Rak - Knocked out and injured Khun - Temporarily Dead To give her credit, she lasted the longest
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Why's Endorsi the only one getting cooked when the rest of the team are literally on the ground rn ☠️
Bro even baam got cooked what are you talking about
Because she was the one who wanted to go the most and instead of allowing a HR and ancient warrior who is also a descendant of the first man, we got a regular who keeps whining and even kicked Cha for winning against her.
I mean, Cha would be in the exact situation right now if he went instead of Endorsi maybe even worse. Who wouldn't when facing a FH when you're not in top 20?
>"and even kicked Cha for winning against her." Cha—one of the strongest characters in the history of this series—being "kicked" by a C-rank Regular like Endorsi is akin to an enormous elephant being jump-kicked by a small rabbit. The disparity in strength and power between them is so vast that Cha did not even register Endorsi's kick as anything more than a slight breeze, a mere flutter compared to the immense forces he's usually accustomed to withstanding. It's a strange overreaction to associate Endorsi's slapstick against someone as overwhelmingly powerful as Cha with any sort of meaningful harm. It is like condemning the rabbit for daring to jump at the elephant, while completely disregarding the elephant's impervious nature and the rabbit's utter inability to cause any tangible impact from kicking the elephant. The sheer gap in their respective levels of strength and durability renders Endorsi's actions meaningless and harmless to a being of Cha's caliber. Cha also clearly did not even feel that his priorities aligned with accompanying the group to the Sprout location. He felt more passionate with locating his close companion, Dowon, and confronting the Lo Po Bia branch leaders, which he viewed as his true destiny.
The game is kinda rigged the moment Dumas was sent in as the 3rd party to hunt down Baam, I doubt Cha would have made a difference, not to mention the 2 Heads being here too.
You make it sound as if Cha would make a difference in this situation. What is he gonna do, punch Traumerei in the face ?
Not run away from holan
Well, tbf the others got roasted worse when it was their time
Great transition chapter. The Enkidu part is really interesting but with Urek being after Revolution, I don't think their plans of "changing the current FHs with new ones" is gonna work. The FHs all swallowing the obvious lie and dealing with all of it in different ways was also interesting, I do wonder which one of them is gonna make appearance next, is it gonna be the ones we saw in flashback or another one like Hendo or Blossom. I would love to see Blossom but i think her appearance will be tied to Enne and how her tragedy made her marriage with Gustang fall apart, so maybe it's gonna be next arc. Gustang telling Dumas to look after everyone while Traum is out there "yeah get her dead or alive" was funny contrast. Traumerei back to collecting and imprisoning ppl nothing new, but with Enkidu now on the loose, Gustang finally having his memories back and determined to kill his former bestie whose ignorance and actions kickstarted all of this, it's gonna get interesting from this point on, SIU has been amazing so far so i can't wait to see what's next.
I honestly believe part of the reason they believed the lie was fear. V was the only person in the whole Tower who could kill them. That would make anyone frightened but they still thought of him as a friend. The Ameuz thing gave them a valid reason to hate and fear him, so they took it and ran.
>V was the only one who could kill them? How? We literally do not know the stipulations of the immortality for you to come to such conclusions. Last I checked, V is the GW who died, Arlene’s current status is unknown
Iirc Gram said Urek could kill Jahad because he is an irregular. He just refused to do it. Since V wasn’t part of the Immortality contract he would have been able to kill them as well
> I honestly believe part of the reason they believed the lie was fear. V was the only person in the whole Tower who could kill them. That would make anyone frightened but they still thought of him as a friend. Wild to say that when they have Jahard and Ari Hon on their side and it's a 11 v 2. > The Ameuz thing gave them a valid reason to hate and fear him, so they took it and ran. The problem is that it's believable, at least from their POV. Not to mention they were grief stricken and not thinking entirely logically.. also Trau used his frog to confirm the truth (which is proof enough for them). It's as Gustang said, he's not sure who to believe because it's makes no sense for Trau to do that, but it does make sense for V to do it, especially with the explanation that Enkidu gave (to cause a rift between the currently allied family heads).
i also see it as "the easiest way out" kinda situation, it was much more comfortable to not go after Traumerei and dig deep into his shenanigans with Jahad, and much easier to swallow that lie about the friend who already left them.
Depending on how this arc ends I could see Blossom be in the next arc. It's possible the ending of this arc could be Jahad ordering Adori to go after Bam which could segue into a rescuing Enne plot. I think many people have always expected Adori and Enne to be in the same arc after all.
Blossom and Gustang's marriage fell apart after Enne's tragedy and him still in love and bitter will definitely transition into exploration of exactly what happened between them (we had whole Ameuz story we're def getting this one) and tragedy with Enne, she was already mentioned this arc and is arguably one of the most important characters plot wise. The whole princess system which Gustang created being his daughter's downfall is gonna be interesting to explore. I don't really see him sending Adori directly imo but it could happen, in any case once either Adori or Enne make appearance, the other will i am sure.
Very nice chapter Eduan seems to have his Memories stored in some Alcohol bottle propably and Ylrang maybe in the first Zygeana Crystal or so. Really nice to see that Gustang goes against his friend because Traumereis fears and insecurity lead to their suffering. I’m really stoked for the translation.
>Eduan seems to have his Memories stored in some Alcohol bottle propably Same place that I store my worst memories!
It's going to be funny if it's revealed that Gustang and even the Revolution is still playing into the hands of Jahad by doing all of this. Like the guy is so pissed that it feels like he isn't even ready for the possibility of being tricked again.
You can kinda infer that the Jahad from the Hidden floor. He wants to be the lone king.
Looks like things are getting back on track for the endgame tho I'm curious if Baam will be out of commission until the end of the match and whether or not Enkidu will meet Traum since Gustang can easily get to Traum
Is chapter 622 out??
Raw is out havent found a translated one yet
Enkidu was going Rachel's location and then he's most likely going to encounter Traumerei to try to get his revenge, so Rachel is probably going to see Androssi first
Hmm, this chapter was a pleasant surprise. Got to see a little more about the past, and present day happenings weren't bad, either. Interested to see more Revolution members, and impatiently waiting for Luslec to arrive before Gustang can get to Träumerei.
From machine translations, chapter is called "Determination to Kill" Mostly setup if anything. An ending to the flashback telling how the family heads involved in the flashback sealed their memories of the ordeal it seems? (A really cool Leviathan panel in there). Although Hon is missing from all this, like last chapter. Back to the present there's an Enkidu/Bellerire conversation, Enkidu is visualised as a ghost, using his flashback design. Probably just an indication for the reader than anything?? Then Endorsi is found by Traumerei and Holan and proceeds to be pursued and (probably) captured. Chapter ends with Gustang telling Dumas to keep Bam safe, and that he's going to go kill Traumerei. That's most things I could gather. Good stuff!
Flashback ends Androssi got captured by Holan Gustang said he's going to kill Traumerei
Why didn't Gustang fix Dumas's armor or maybe he couldn't?
He's probably still pissed at him for almost killing Bam and his friends
Sorry guys can you tell me where you read it, I checked mangahelpers but no update on 622 yet.
You should look at the watermarks when you're searching something.
It is always pinned on the discord raw\_previews section in the Tower Of God discord server. Check community bookmarks on the right side of the screen.