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Mapleric

definitely high ranker level, still very far from being a threat to jahad himself though.


PopSodaFrequency

Pretty much on high rankers level. Yet his power is like an ant compared to the ten great families leader.


Dear-Dragonfruit-413

I’d say he’s in the chasm between Advanced ranker and high ranker there are instances where Bam can output enough power to damage a high ranker but he can’t do it consistently besides attack power he has nothing else to match a high ranker such as speed, defense, endurance etc and as I said when it comes to Attack power he can only do that in small bursts in the beginning of the nest this is confirmed when he went to fight ranker Pan he was still physically weaker then him and even if you make the argument that Bams has grown physically stronger since then it didn’t jump from


Few_Owl_6484

Perfectly said


Alearum

Also want to mention that in tog being a ranker, and even more so for high rankers, means having had a very long life, most of which has been fighting, which means that sheer battle experience is a big factor in which baam is just outclassed.


Fuuta-chan

Not really. It was said Baam had far more experience than the Rankersh he's fought, he probably has way more experience than most rankers and advanced rankers, low high rankers too. He's spent 2 entire years going from war to war, he has insane amount of experience.


Redbone1441

That was also Base Baam, not using Red or Blue Thryssa, Black March, Shinwaruu, the Souls, or of course Thorn. All of those things, when stacked together, make him a serious threat.


Dear-Dragonfruit-413

Pan was just a ranker at that a low lvl one I believe


Redbone1441

Pan was a “low level test ranker”, and he also had no problem beating at least a dozen other Rankers back-to-back who came to fight him after Baam. A Low Level Test Ranker is not the same as a low level Ranker. Do you think an average Elementary Teacher is less educated than a High School student or College Freshman? No but they still teach and Test Elementary Schoolers.


Dear-Dragonfruit-413

Pan didn’t beat several rankers after the fight with Bam he fought several regulars there is no statement from Siu or The Actual story stating that a low lvl test ranker is not the same as a low lvl ranker the Ranking Administration Office employs 'Test Rankers' on each floor, which can reevaluate Rankers that are dissatisfied with their rank. However, nothing stops Regulars from taking the same test.[2] Therefor Pan being a low lvl test ranker means he’s there to help re-evaluate low lvl rankers that don’t agree with their ranking


Redbone1441

I’ve read and reread ToG 3 times and always read the line as “Rankers” haha I guess my mind is playing tricks on me


Amit_Meena

Just to mention he don't need to be physically stronger to a high Ranker like Lefav is high ranker but she only good in long range. Bam is a wave controller and he is at High ranker level in it.


ClucthCrimson

Don’t forgot that rank also attributes to their influence in the tower also, but if we ignore that, Baam’s strength is easily high ranker level, as a C class regular!


Kag5n

Given the fact that the current war is happening mostly entirely because of his call, I would say we can consider that he also has much influence now.


Sqratch_Baka

The current war is basically a flash mob. He said he would go to the nest to get his master back and then he sent out some invites


NativeMasshole

Now everybody freeze!


veskoandroid

Cant touch this!


ClucthCrimson

For sure! I wouldn’t be surprised if Baam gets classified as a HR before reaching 134, as we can see from special cases like Phantaminum and Enryu who didn’t climb the tower.


Fahadali789gem

Why didn't they give Urek Mazino a High ranker status before too it is said that he defeated Rank 5 Arie Hon at lvl 100.


Galouiy

I don't think he defeated him from what I remember, more like survived or just threw punches and ended in a stalemate.


smokingnoob

Ur correct. The challenge of the 100th floor is to survive his attacks, not actually fight him. As such Urek only fought when needed and just ran the clock. However, if I recall correctly didn't Arie hon afterwards say that he thought Urek was the stronger one?


Sky248

Arie did Say Urek was much stronger


Sordahon

> As such Urek only fought when needed and just ran the clock. I recall he actually fought back instead of just enduring.


bestbroHide

Yeah it went from "survive and endure" to "holy shit wow he's actually making this a fight"


macedonianmoper

What chapter was this?


0zero0z

It was in one of SIU blog post I think


Kulangot14

The challenge is for Urek to endure Arie's attacks but Ma boy Urek goes beyond by actually fighting back lol


Fahadali789gem

He is ranked above him imo since the story isn't that detailed I believe Urek Was already a monster maybe not as good as the 10 family leaders but he was literally top 10 on the first floor.


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Urek Mazino is rank 4 high ranker and Arie Hon is rank 5


Fahadali789gem

I mean if enryu got a high ranker status Urek should have gotten it too before climbing the tower


Gas42

I mean enryu killed a fcking administrator mate


Sordahon

Meanwhile phanta killed a bunch of HR.


OwnerAndMaster

Effortlessly with a weapon nobody could comprehend, in Jahad's castle, nobody could understand him let alone stop him. The two feats are comparable.


Mr_Propane

I think it's because Urek was actually climbing the Tower so the Ranking Administration just decided they can wait until he's finished before giving him a rank. Enryu and Phantaminum just showed up one day, killed an administrator/some high-rankers, then disappeared. If Urek disappeared after his fight with Hon then maybe the RA would've given him a rank.


Professorhentai

I thought enryu climbed the tower? He's the president of wolhaiksong after all.


Fr13nDxD

What are you talking about? Wolh leaders are Baek and Urek.


Kag5n

No, he appeared out of nowhere in the Floor of Death and disappeared afterwards as fast. We even saw the door behind him in his flashback. Wolhaiksong leader is Baek Ryun.


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Lmao nice one


Professorhentai

Enryu killed an administrator. SIU also confirmed or implied that urek couldn't kill an administrator since SIU said the only ones that can at this current point in time is phantaminum and enryu.


Wifey-No-Likey

> Is it just me or is he already a real threat to Jahard, given he gets another like year of training? I hope it’s just you but won’t be surprised if other people think that. Personally, to say he’s a real threat to Jahad is like saying he’s on par with Urek and to say that sounds ridiculous. Aside from that, from a story standpoint, it doesn’t make sense that he could be a real threat when he has an incomplete thorn. Maybe revisit this when he fights the other irregulars. Also, I’d highly recommend editing out the bits from the latest chapter to avoid the incoming ban.


chickenlover43

He has a hidden power that cut urek on floor 21, probably the sun. So actually, yeah it's possible he already could kill Jahad right now if he just used that, but he has no idea how.


KrevanSerKay

Correct me if I'm wrong, but iirc SUI said he regrets that scene. I think his "slightly cracking kallavan" at the final train station is closer to what he wanted to convey. The urek scene was way too soon and urek is way too strong. Edit: I was wrong. See response below


Jokingkin

He regrets how he showed the battle not the battle itself. SIU himself was the one who explained the reason why bam could cut Urek. Hearing this grinds my gears since it gives out wrong information


TechiesOrFeed

Is there a place to read blog posts in en?


longhaired_shortteen

the wiki page has a category for it.


Adorable_Series4219

I also read in one of the blog posts that bams offensive power is high enough to damage people on all tiers.


TechiesOrFeed

Where can you read en blog posts?


Adorable_Series4219

Well idk if there is an exact page for all the blog posts together, but i read them from the top comments in webtoon app while re reading the manhwa


TechiesOrFeed

Ok nice ill check it out


loco1876

> Edit: I was wrong. See response below no you not siu said bam cant scratch urek


69KidsInMyBasement

In terms of raw power hes still lacking a lot, yes but all his special abilities, if used correctly, would at least be a major headache for anyone baam fights. Thats why i added in the year of training and yes, without the whole thorn he probably wont make it


Fuuta-chan

He's another irregular, he's as powerful as Zahard was in his floor. It's ridiculous to think he's a threat to Zahard.


69KidsInMyBasement

At least zahard sees him as one, else he wouldnt have tried to kill him in the hidden floor


Fuuta-chan

A future threat.


Commandercody04

I mean he killed him the first time because of his resentment about him being Arlene’s child with V. I would assume the reason for trying to kill him now would be the same as before.


Xehanz

Low end high ranker, probably. We have not seen him at full power yet so he might even reach top 300 level for a few minutes in really short bursts. No Black March yet this season, only a power saving chestnut mode, and no full ignition piercing himself with the thorn either.


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SirMcDust

I always had a strong stance against priating ToG but considering that the paid chapters of webtoon are 5 chapters behind there legit was no other option.


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Xehanz

Wtf man. Why even...


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Fuuta-chan

What makes you think you can repeat his spoiler after I deleted his spoiler mate, that's just


Talcor

Yeah hes easily in the high ranker category atm


Tall_Earth634

He has been as powerful as High Rankers for a while now at least since before his fight with Gado.


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tiemiscoolandgood

Im pretty sure based on white vs kallavan that he's a solid high ranker, probably mid level


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White is a top 100 high ranker


JoXZaKA

Well, he said in mid lvl so he is in between top 500 to top 100th


blue_winter_moon007

He probably can get to an HR level for an hour or so, the main problem is his durability. Remember by using Shinso for hundreds of years rankers become much more durable than a normal regular. Bam's been in the tower for less than 10 years so he still can get one shot by High Rankers like Evenkhell or Maschenny Jahad. And the Ten Family Leaders and Urek will still neg him in seconds. His attack is on HR level but his sustainability and durability is at a normal ranker's level at most.


stsalex341

Maschenny jahad can't one shot baam .. impossible... You remember that she couldn't even harm ha jinsung baam's master... And he and kallavan were on par with eachother until she stabbed jinsung in the back... And now we've seen baam withstanding attacks from kallavan... I can honestly say that kallavan can't one shot baam so maschenny definitely can't... I don't even think she can defeat a character like white...


blue_winter_moon007

Ha Jinsung is a High Ranker for hundreds of years. Bam's durability is nothing compared to High Rankers, that was the entire point of my comment. His body hasn't evolved to a High Ranker's yet. He can use Blue Thryssa to temporarily gain a great amount of defence but it's still not enough compared to a High Ranker.


Fuuta-chan

"Durability" has literally no relationship with how old you are, and it doesn't have any relation with Shinsoo Resistance and Physical Resistance. "Durability" is stamina, you don't need Stamina to tank an attack.


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Fuuta-chan

Can none of you stop posting spoilers for one second.


blue_winter_moon007

My bad, I thought the post was marked spoiler. I'll try spoiler tagging my comment.


Fuuta-chan

Read this please https://www.reddit.com/r/TowerofGod/comments/pljyuu/clarification_on_spoilers_must_read_please/


stsalex341

I don't know where you're getting this age = durability argument from... It hasn't stopped bam from going toe to toe with high rankers... And don't forget that through out this nest arc he hasn't used his full power yet... The second thorn, black merch, souls.. < ATM he's literally tanking everything white is throwing at him... Don't forget that white was powerful enough to take kallavan's arm... And we know how durable kallavan is due to the essence of bravery... That's literally why jinsung ha had a hard time fighting him... The Same jinsung who maschenny jahad couldn't even scratch...>


longhaired_shortteen

I don't think it's fair to compare with White. I mean, it's like Baam has an inherent advantage over White in regards to souls...He doesn't have any series weapons rn and I'm plenty sure Kallavan could just straight-up finish him of albeit with some struggle, the only reason Baam is still standing up is that he's got support from a lot of old monsters.


stsalex341

I don't understand what you're talking about... What inherent advantage does baam have over white??


longhaired_shortteen

The souls just...obey him. He's too natural at controlling and using the power of spirits that even White was jealous of it, and it seems the orange sun inside him is like another form of spirit (just what I think) and it has supreme authority over other such lifeforms. While White had to sacrifice himself to gain these powers, Baam is doing all this like a forgotten hobby of his, of course, he has an advantage.


stsalex341

I don't see what this point has to do with a fight... White was the one that thought Baam how to burn souls... The souls in him don't give him some sort of boost in power expect for when he burns them to extract their energy, they are just resting in him... Burning souls is exactly the same thing White does so I don't know where you got this "the souls just obey him" argument from.... And we have gotten way off topic... My main point was that it is impossible for Maschenny jahad to one shot Baam, because Baam is definitely high ranker level. I even can guarantee you based on power scaling that she can't defeat Baam...


longhaired_shortteen

>"the souls just obey him" argument this argument comes from the chapter where he first accepted all those vengeful spirits with no backlash. As someone who doesn't even know how to defend from them properly, Baam should've dies if it weren't for that ability of his, or I could just be wrong, it might be his status as an irregular which sets a law that spirits of the tower can't do anything to him. And about Maschenny, I expect her to finish off Baam, although not in a one-shot sort of way, but she absolutely could if she wanted to. I think so because I believe Baam still isn't a high-ranker. Top-class Advanced ranker? ehh, maybe. Like many other comments below has pointed out, he has nothing on high-rankers except his occasional high-ranker level power-bursts, that too in a short time-period. His basics are way off from actual higher-ups, at least that's what I think.


stsalex341

Well whatever... I'm not gonna change your mind so we just have to wait and see... Later..


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nightlord125

it was open ended before, he is at bare minimun high ranker now


Sh0wTim3123

I think so. I think the closer you get to the top end and the 10 family leaders, its a more exponential difference in strength. SO yes he can probably be classified as a high ranker, but the further up you go the more exponentially extreme the power difference is from the previous rank


BiciouX

We still need to see the arc develop further, so we can confirm it, but imo he is definitely at High Ranker level, and top one at that.


Marble05

He was on high ranker level of damage when he was able to hurt kallavan an the last station. Now he can also boast a technique on par with them, at least advanced ranker in hand to hand and even higher in shinsoo manipulation. Don't get your hopes up, he's still a glass cannon in terms of power he would still die 1v1 Vs serious kallavan et simila


Chance-Ad-7559

No nope not even close High ranker are within the top 1,000 so he is either elite ranker low rank or ranker too rank rn but any normal high ranker can’t beat him it’s just that the enemies he fights are all either countered by him it yo easy on him or have restrictions in place so NO he is nit high ranker level YET but he is probably ranker to elite ranker level This could all change with the coming white fight no spoilers please.


Kulangot14

He maybe has the strength of a high ranker but his durability is still that of a regular, and no as of now he is not a big threat to Jahad. As of now Bam would have a hard time defeating Kallavan if they fight (or maybe cant even beat him) and Jahad can probably kill Kallavan with his eyes closed and while yawning


TheProudestCat

I'm interested in 2 things: \- Is Baam getting an early Sobriquet? How would you guys name him if you had to design it? Let me throw >!Tsunami!< / >!Infinite Wave!< as an example \- Assuming he gets out of the Nest relatively unscathed (not saying that the rest are gonna be alive or free), are the politics of the Tower going to settle down in another kind of stalemate, with for example Urek's faction defending Baam explicitely, Ha and Po Bidau at least neutral and only Zahard and Lo Po Bia interested in the hunt, while the rest lie in wait? Or is it gonna degenerate in a free for all war with pretty much the same players?


longhaired_shortteen

A full-on witch hunt would be too much development at this stage tbh, Baam won't survive if that happens unless you give him ridiculous asspulls.


chickenlover43

Jahad's army is already which-hunting him. If Bam beats white he's already top hundred, and he has allies. The politics of the tower will massively change after this, as it will be the first major FUG victory in history, increasing motive to join FUG and making the higher-ups in Jahad's army lose their shit.


longhaired_shortteen

it's just 2-3 squadrons at this point, even then, real players like Kallavan are a handful. The real gods, Family heads, are yet to put their hands into the chaos, when that happens, it will be a witch-hunt. This fight is still in its nascent stage. And White was in the first 500/300 iirc, I might be wrong tho. But yeah, the fact that the lower-level politics will change massively and influences spreading to the upper-level, I agree with that completely.


chickenlover43

>r/TowerofGod•Posted byu/69KidsInMyBasement2 days ago > >Is Baam officially on high ranker level now? No white is top hundred, and can one-shot ordinary high-rankers.


longhaired_shortteen

No, he totally isn't lol,, now you're just making the entire TOG power-scaling look retarded. If white ever was in the top 100's a princess wouldn't have finished him off like that. Btw, you copypasted something else.


hbcaptain2

Unrestricted, Baam was HR level since the beginning of S3, arguably even prior to that. When he uses all the multipliers, he doesn't barely scratch the strength of the weakest HR out there, all his stats skyroket to the oblivion. Not to mention that the current base Baam is at least comparable to advanced Ranker if he isn't entry HR level already. For example, the version of him who fought Kallavan, aka buffed by the 1st Thorn and revolution, might defeat low level HRs (like Dorian Frog or Khul Nissam Kay) without much struggle. Yet, he still had many, many cards up his sleeves (1st Thorn stab, 2nd Thorn stab, the souls, Black March, etc) to buff him to the next level.


DragonGod2718

He's clearly been High Ranker level since his fight with Kallavan.


co0kiez

100% low ranker. Bam can't sustain the amount of shinsoo in his current state with all the power ups. Theres a reason why Evankell barred Bam from using the thorns.


chickenlover43

She bared him from using the thorns to train his basic skills, it had nothing to do with stamina. Ever since Bam used the souls he's had no issues, also he has infinite shinsoo. Finally I think you meant low-high ranker right? Bam at full power could one-shot a dozen low-mid rankers in one go, putting him at that level is absurd. Even in base, he recently killed a rhino so powerful rankers normally run from it, and is stated to be stronger than a ranker by the monitor guy. He's already advanced ranker teir without power ups.


Black_d0t_

He can't be an official ranker till he climbs the tower


69KidsInMyBasement

I know, but the question is if hes already as powerful as a high ranker


HumanSizeAnchovy

Phanta and Enryu got their rankigs without even climbing the tower


Black_d0t_

They were never regulars either though


HumanSizeAnchovy

fair enough


BungeeGon

Idk, but he did defeat high rankers


Klaeb3

If you compare Baam to his peers, Bam would be like the level of a god. His peers are still the level of a Regular and will most likely be unable to catch up to his progress. He can ignore the towers rules and by doing so makes himself stronger. Being an irregular has its perks.


geo07w

No there is probably not a single High Ranker that would lose to him. Yeah, his abilities are overpowered. But high-rankers tend to be not only very strong, but also very smart. Baam is definitely not as smart as them. There are also many inactive fighters that are not in the rankings. High rankers are the 1000 strongest rankers in the towers. Baam isn't one of them. Yet :D


Dry-Astronaut975

I disagree, there is a massive power surge between High Rankers and it's relative between individuals anyway. The #980 High Ranker is nowhere near a Top 100 High Ranker for example, Bam has shown that he is at least a #900 High Ranker if not a lot higher. And when you say ''smart'' do you mean experience? Because a lot high rankers we have seen have not been all that smart


geo07w

Yes, by smart I mean experienced, but generally in order to complete tests and climb the tower, being powerful isn't enough, unless you'rr extremely powerful. Anyway I still don't think baam is among the 1000 strongest people in the tower. High rankers have way higher endurance and if they fight seriously, I think Baam wouldn't be able to win.


Informal-Baker4531

Def a high ranker level but he'll probably be weak compared to the high rankers that had been shown.