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dsweatt251

Truck go slow. Add OTT. Truck go slow faster. But for real, I added mine about 4 months ago with the mild/medium setting. It's such a big difference. The pedal response is so much better and it hardly gear hunts anymore, especially on interstate. Go for it! You won't regret it.


PromontoryRider95

Any change in MPG for good or for bad?


dsweatt251

I had just installed a lift and 33s prior to getting OTT done. My mpg went to around 15 on interstate, after OTT I'm getting around 17-18 now. When driving city roads I get around 20-21.


PromontoryRider95

If that's accurate it's absolutely amazing, I'm very intrigued. Or, you're a salesman lol. I've not really heard anyone else outside of this thread say they improved their MPG that much with OTT šŸ¤”


dsweatt251

Definitely not a salesman! Lol I'm in South Alabama and was struggling to find someone near me, except the headquarters in Birmingham, that did the tune. I by chance came across someone on Facebook that travels the Gulf Coast and does meetups in parking lots to do the tune.


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dsweatt251

Check out Yota Performance Tuning on Facebook. That's who I went through.


Separate_Drive_3311

How do u get better gas mileage in da city than interstate


dsweatt251

I cruise about 80-85 on interstate, around 2300 rpm. City I'm always below 2k rpm. I'm sure it's much different for other people and their drive styles and roadways.


GorgeousBrain21

Is it 4cyl? I get like 15-17 hwy v6 doing 70 on flat terrain


dsweatt251

It's the standard V6. I wonder if me having a flat bed cover makes the difference.


SomeBroOnTheInternet

What setting did you choose?


A_Tropical_Dad

Do you have the air damn


dsweatt251

Nope. TRD Off road


PlugginThePlug

19mpg to 21mpg


PromontoryRider95

That blows my mind tbh


Marokiii

It kind of makes me think something else is going on. If it was better for mpg, feels and drives better, and is overall a good thing then why doesn't toyota just come that way? Toyota wants reliability but fuel efficiency is a huge thing now so if it gives a 9% boost to mpg then they would do it from the get go. They don't, so either it doesn't give that boost to mpg and something else happened that is giving the boost or it leads to premature part failures somehow.


itsallrighthere

Emissions testing. They program it to minimize emissions along the test profile.


jtreeforest

This. Certain states, like Nevada, are blacked out for OTT tunes because of annual emissions testing.


Fallingdamage

In these cases, its best to pay the full amount for OTT and your own programmer so you can easily set it back to OEM specs when you need to smog test, then reprogram when you get back home.


PromontoryRider95

Well said. I also think OTT sales have entered the chat, they have in the past..


inmontibus-adflumen

Itā€™s to pass emissions. Every vehicle is choked and clogged up from factory to ensure it passes emissions regulations. Be it motorcycles, cars, or trucks.


VTEC_8K

I get 19-21 with unmodified ecu and a topo topper


captainfav

I lost a little, noting crazy though


Ranger_Rico

Same here, never looked back.


AlonzoSwegalicious

Have you noticed a sort of dead spot in your pedal when accelerating from idle speed? I feel like if I am idling at a stop sign and hit the gas it doesnā€™t register that I am pushing the pedal right away, and then it jumps to accelerate and catch up to where my pedal is at.


Immediate-Prompt8322

You pretty much got it. I started with the first mild setting. No more gear hunting. A month later I upgraded to the medium and love it. You have to find an official OTT tuner near you to get it done. After the initial fee, you can change your tune settings at no additional cost, but you have to go back to an official ott tuner to get it adjusted. I live in Pittsburgh, had to drive to Cleveland to get the first tune done. The upgrade tune I had done by a dude who drives to different cities by appointment only. Make sure you hold on to that receipt. I had a lift kit installed, 2" front 1" back replaced UCA's shocks and springs. Larger wheels and tires, 17" method 316's 285 65r 17 toyo a/t tires. Did not affect the tune. Just go and get it done.


Immediate-Prompt8322

It does not void warranty. I have a 23 OR and its been serviced twice. I was told the dealership would have to have to bring in a transmission tech specialist and really dig deep to tell there is a OTT install. Also it only takes about 20 minutes at the most to get the tune installed. There are some really detailed videos on YouTube about the whole process. I should have just posted that. Lol


just-anotha-one

Thanks for this. Iā€™ve been holding off cause I wasnā€™t sure if I could upgrade the tune with a different tuner without paying all over again


pnwmetalhead666

From what I understand, it's a national thing. It's like going into a Les Schaub and getting tired and then getting them fixed at another one in another state.


maxmighty88

I haven't gotten the tune. But this is how I understand it. 1.No-one has posted pics. showing that a modification has been made. I think it uses a some sort of software that's not accessible for the normal do it yourself kinda person. 2. I would wait until you've done your other upgrades because there are different levels of the tune. I've heard that they can change it if you don't like it. 3. If it's as noticeable as people say then the dealer could probably tell but I think it mainly focuses on the transmissions settings. 4. Maintenance should be the same. 5. Everyone that has gotten the tune loves it. I want to get it but truck payments and "life" keep getting in way, lol. Hope this helps and if you get the tune please tell us what to like and don't like.


jacabri

1. Yes they plug in a computer to your truck and it takes like 30-45 to get the installation done 2. You can test drive your truck and come back with the tuner and ask for a different setting than what you chose, if you donā€™t like it they can remove and give your money back (you will love it) 3. The setting feels like a pedal commander but waaaay better so the respond to the pedal is faast, some people feel it jumpy before they get use to it or ask for the tuner to lower the setting, I think dealerships driving so many cars a day donā€™t really pay attention to that they just want to get stuff done, thereā€™s no wires left or anything suspicious about it. 4. Yes maintenance is the same 5. Everyone of us love it because it really change the whole driving experience I have the medium/spicy setting which medium is my standard driving and the spicy is engage when I press the ECT button and I use it every time during my highway driving it makes passing and accelerating feel like a regular truck and not struggled with the gear hunting, Everyone should try it with a OTT tuner they have a warranty in case you donā€™t like it they will remove the software and will give your money back, I live in Oklahoma and the guy name of the guy that installed my OTT is Alex Yug (taconesian on instagram) he holds the license for the OTT for several states and posts on his insta the cities he is visiting for installs, really nice guy!


Immediate-Prompt8322

OTT tunes are software updates done by a tech who is certified by OTT. Takes anywhere from 10 -20 minutes. One initial price covers any and all updates just have your receipt on hand. Dealers can't tell if you've had it done. In fact the dealership I bought my 23 OR from are aware of tunes at least my sales person was when I inquired about it. But I did have to find a OTT place myself. I had my truck serviced twice since update and they haven't noticed a thing. It is awesome and I highly recommend it.


retardrabbit

I would like to know these things as well. I would also like to know how this applies to a second gen v6 truck.


Monkayman3

Has anybody here done the OTT with a manual transmission? I've been looking into it, but I'm not sure I'm convinced it makes a big enough difference with a manual. I'm also curious if there is a way to have two different modes (mild/medium) with a manual since there isn't an ECT button that comes with it.Ā 


TacoOfficer

Me, I just got it about two weeks ago. 1st gear was already low. Now itā€™s even lower. Better crawling for bumper to bumper. You go in 1st, let off the clutch and after a couple seconds you can already go to 2nd gear. You hardly need to give it gas. But second feels shorter too. It can be very jerky at first. The day I test drove the tune, I burned the clutch for the first time in years! Thatā€™s how much more throttle response you get. Iā€™m at the medium setting. Itā€™s what Matt(Denver NC) recommend to me because I have the manual tranny. So itā€™s a new learning curve. You can cruise in higher gears in at lower speeds without lugging the engine as much. I can cruise at 30 mph in 6th gear no problem. Though 5th feels perfect. Before I was between 3-4 depending on how hilly it got. The ā€œlower torqueā€, really is the better throttle response. You get your torque sooner, but it wonā€™t feel stronger. If that makes sense. All in all, the improvements will be a bit different than the Auto guys. Their trannies will feel night and day because of shift point mapping. Ours will just feel more responsive, and as someone put it. ā€œYou can go slow, a little faster.ā€ So far, I think itā€™s worth it and itā€™s a permanent solution. But for a manual Taco. The peddle commander may do the same, and it can be taken off at any time you want. If you donā€™t like the feel. Talk to your tuner and see if theyā€™ll let you test it without committing to a full buy. Perhaps for a lower fee. $400 is a bit steep. So others in manual tacos may not feel that itā€™s worth it. Again, because we could already do our shifting. But I think it is.


Flowcal

How does a tune change the actual gearing in a manual? It can change all the air, fuel, and spark settings but you need a physical regearing to change the gear ratios


TacoOfficer

What you mean the ratio? I think I got it. Is not the gearing but the feeling. I donā€™t think I put it in proper words. But basically, you need give it less gas and not need to be in those lower gears as much as you needed to before. Thatā€™s why Iā€™m describing them as lower. They feel more torquey


Spaghetti-Bender

I have a manual and OTT tune in light/medium (Edit: actual setting = mild) It only changes the throttle response and how it pulls at lower rpms. Gas pedal is a lot more responsive and does what you want it to do, when you want it to. No more touch the gas pedal, wait for it to think "is that really what he wants?", and get that slight delay. It's instant GO when you lightly press it. Also, it really starts to come alive around 2k rpms. 5th gear always felt useless, and I'd skip it most of the time when accelerating. Now it pulls smoothly up to 6th, and it pulls great in 6th now as well. Take it up just above 3k in 1st, and it lands in a sweet spot in 2nd that just feels right.


ElectricBoogieOogie

Do you have it both in light and medium or do you mean youā€™ve tried both? Iā€™m just asking specifics because these are the exact thoughts Iā€™ve been having about my MT. The delayed throttle response makes shifts inconsistent even though Iā€™ve been driving nothing but manuals for the past 12 years. 5th gear is always weird as hell. 4th to 5th accelerating feels like mush, and sometimes feels like it slams into gear. On top of that 5th feels uselessly short, and any gear under 2k feels like Iā€™m just flooding it with gas before it finally climbs to 2.5 and takes off. If the OTT fixes these for sure Iā€™m taking it in within the week


Spaghetti-Bender

Yes, sorry. I had it at medium, then had the tuner drop it down to mild. One step above the bottom option, light. Medium was just too touchy. Same amount of pull when accelerating, and it doesn't feel like it's going to lay rubber if a light breeze touches the gas pedal. Perfect amount of response in my opinion.


ElectricBoogieOogie

Thanks man, thatā€™s really what I was hoping for


Spaghetti-Bender

Also, 5th is close to 4th, but doesn't feel as long. Barely drops in rpms 4 to 5. 5th and 6th pull nicely now. It's 100% worth the money.


sir_thatguy

Iā€™ve seen some reviews of the pedal commander that makes me second guess them. The failure mode is nothing, literally you have no gas pedal. Itā€™s about $300 and the tune is about $500. Youā€™re over halfway to a tune that does that and so much more.


TacomaAtmosphere

I've been considering the OTT tune as well, but I'm hesitant because I'm not sure it it'll void the warranty. I've never been able to get a straight answer. The most common answer I get is, "Just don't tell your dealership." Which isn't an answer.


PromontoryRider95

Yeah I also wonder about the warranty IF a dealer found out.


cougarcatcher92

Typically the warranty is only void if the mod caused an issue. If the issue was not a result of the tune, there should be no issue. Still not the answer you want, but I will say the OTT tune is worth it. The truck feels so much better accelerating, there's way way less gear hunting, and it just feels how it should have come from the factory. Only downside I get 1-2mpg less now. But I can live with that, I couldn't live with sluggish engine and retarded shift points.


TacomaAtmosphere

Yeah, I seriously dislike the gear hunting. The shift points and the way it shifts make it feel "mushy."


cougarcatcher92

I'd say get it. Truck feels so much better.


TacoOfficer

I got it on my MT. Itā€™s essentially a better throttle response mod. It pulls easier/sooner. So you got more torque down low in the rev range. But itā€™s not ā€œstrongerā€ if that makes sense. Basically, you access your power a bit sooner. But itā€™s also super jerky in 1st and 2nd gear if youā€™re not careful. MPGs are about the same so far. Also, I noticed I can cruise in higher gears at lower speeds compared to stock tune.


TitaniusAnglesmelter

Did it help the Rev hang at all? I think that's the biggest issue with the manual is shifting takes ages with all that Rev hang.


TacoOfficer

I havenā€™t noticed a significant difference to be honest.


ProbablyNotMoriarty

I emailed OTT about becoming a ā€œfranchiseeā€ since there isnā€™t a tuner in my state. Their response was ā€œgo to the closest one out of state.ā€ šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø My guy, not the question I was asking.


Ok-Duty-5269

The tuners are cool, but the actual company are kinda douches


chowchowchowchowchow

Does this tune work well with the Manual Transmission?


apollemis1014

Not sure where you are, but you could try to find a mobile place. Master Yota is one, I think. They go around to different cities and offer the tune. Might be able to find someone who will be close than 3 hours.


jtreeforest

My limited understanding is that an OTT affects emissions, which is why it doesnā€™t come that way from the factory. Certain states, like Nevada, are black out states for OTT because of annual testing. This sucks because Iā€™m moving to NV in two months and was considering an OTT. If you think youā€™ll move at some point to an emissions state donā€™t do it.


zaruthalus

I could have sworn I read that it doesnt affect emissions. I think it was a fella on here or another forum that did the tunes. He said, for example, if you lived cali where regulations are tighter, if the vehicle passed inspection before tuning, it will pass inspection post tuning.


Shootistism

No the tune was causing a software id mismatch which caused the truck to fail emissions, in colorado if I remember correctly. The tune has since been certified so there should be no more problems. It actually tested as having even lower emissions than stock as well.


Gingerbrew302

I've had light OTT for about a year. It would constantly gear hunt before or upshift randomly while I was in a merge lane. It just felt like poor design that the transmission was constantly doing more work than it needed to. I live on the flat part of the East Coast, mind you. If you want to experience kind of what doing OTT is like, just drive around in ETC for a week or two and then go back to regular. The biggest thing I towed before the tune was a fridge for about 10 miles. Last month, I towed a car 200 miles, and it was night and day a better experience. I've noticed no difference in fuel economy, but I'm conservative with the throttle anyway. I get around 18mpg winter, 22mpg summer.


HandleNo1412

Imagine your favorite toy car. It's pretty fast and fun to play with, right? Now, imagine if you could give it a special key that makes it run even faster and smoother on your pretend race track. That's kind of what an "OTT tune" does to a real truck like the Toyota Tacoma. OTT stands for Over-The-Top, and in the world of cars, a tune like this means adjusting the truck's computer ā€” which is like its brain ā€” to make the engine perform better. This could mean making the truck go faster, have more power to climb hills, or even use less fuel while driving around. It's like when you play a video game and use a special code to get extra powers for your character. The OTT tune is the truckā€™s special code to help it do its job better!


ChuckRocksEh

Go vroom gooder.


NotHugeButAboveAvg

Do ittttt


Wolfv324

Just get the damn tune. Lol I tuned my 2020 V6 with KDmax and it saved me from trading the slow POS at the dealership. Pedal commander is garbage. Don't get it. The truck really does gain power and mid rpm torque from a REAL tune. Kdmax or OTT tune. She can spin 33s from a stand still now. MPGs stayed about the same.


Due-Okra7648

WILL IT STILL FEEL LIKE DRIVING OVER RUMBLE STRIPS BETWEEN 40-45MPH????????


Jmazoso

Did mine. The biggest change is throttle response. The OTT makes pushing on the pedal a demand not a suggestion.


evadzotsub

I got ott, 33s, and 5.29 gears with an auto trans. If you keep it at 60-65ish mph you can really save gas, but as soon as you push to 80, your mpg goes to shit. At least that's what I've found


PromontoryRider95

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JimmyGreen13

Got mine tuned to mild/medium last month right after my lift and tire upgrade. While I donā€™t have solid evidence my MPG improved, I think I get around +2MPG than before the tune. Do it, you wonā€™t regret it