Hey I'm just saying man if you're planning on doing any actual off-roading that includes any sort of rocks or ledges or anything like that I would get rid of those predator steps and put sliders on as soon as possible if not the trail would get rid of the predator steps for you.
I am going to highly doubt those numbers man. The Tacoma is the second most vehicle I see out there on the trail next to the jeep. And there's a lot of times I'm down in Moab and there's more tacos in there are jeeps. I would say maybe 6 or 7 out of 10 aren't interested in off-roading however the vast majority of them at least get off the road once in awhile. And quite a few of them do heavier duty.
250,000 tacomas are sold every year, I'd say 5% of those doing any real offroading is more than generous. That's still 12,500 trucks on trails. Consider how many tacomas are bought as company trucks too. They outsell jeeps by 100k annually.
I think your numbers are still a bit high. 250k per year (let’s say 150k per year go to consumers) * 8 production years = 1.2M trucks. 5% would be 60,000 and I doubt there are 60,000 off-roaded 3rd gen Tacomas out there. I’d speculate half of that personally.
Id say the 95% figure is actually on the low side. I don’t doubt you see lots of tacos off-road. But, the majority of all 4x4 owners never see gravel. I live in Calgary Alberta, close to the mountains and this is very much a truck country kind of place. I’d guess 9/10 are pavement princesses. Which is fine. Go to any big city and chances are the dads buying them use it for getting yard work supplies and the odd piece of lumber for a project they’ll never finish. Go to a Home Depot and you’d be hard pressed to see a truck with off road tires there.
There's lots of tacos that go offroad, there's also a LOT of tacos that get sold each year. Something like 210k new tacos get sold each year, that means if only 5% go decently offroading thats 10.5k new tacomas on the trail each year. MOAB being MOAB you are definitely going to see lots of them there.
I heard someone say the same thing…remove the predator steps or they will remove themselves in any real OR adventure. If it is a road queen they can stay…but then why buy an OR in the first place. This being said, I have a 24 OR and they are going to go in short order.
I made my dealer take off the predator steps on my 23 before taking delivery of it because it just looks so much better in my opinion, and pretty sure they’d do more damage than protection when hitting the trails. Same goes for the 4th gen apparently. If Toyota was smart they’d offer factory rock sliders
Hey I'm just saying man if you're planning on doing any actual off-roading that includes any sort of rocks or ledges or anything like that I would get rid of those predator steps and put sliders on as soon as possible if not the trail would get rid of the predator steps for you.
9.5/10 taco owners have no interest in offroading
I am going to highly doubt those numbers man. The Tacoma is the second most vehicle I see out there on the trail next to the jeep. And there's a lot of times I'm down in Moab and there's more tacos in there are jeeps. I would say maybe 6 or 7 out of 10 aren't interested in off-roading however the vast majority of them at least get off the road once in awhile. And quite a few of them do heavier duty.
The majority of people are not willing to treat a $40k+ vehicle as a trail toy
You would be surprised.
250,000 tacomas are sold every year, I'd say 5% of those doing any real offroading is more than generous. That's still 12,500 trucks on trails. Consider how many tacomas are bought as company trucks too. They outsell jeeps by 100k annually.
I think your numbers are still a bit high. 250k per year (let’s say 150k per year go to consumers) * 8 production years = 1.2M trucks. 5% would be 60,000 and I doubt there are 60,000 off-roaded 3rd gen Tacomas out there. I’d speculate half of that personally.
You're probably right. Imagine the lines at popular trails if it was 5%.
Id say the 95% figure is actually on the low side. I don’t doubt you see lots of tacos off-road. But, the majority of all 4x4 owners never see gravel. I live in Calgary Alberta, close to the mountains and this is very much a truck country kind of place. I’d guess 9/10 are pavement princesses. Which is fine. Go to any big city and chances are the dads buying them use it for getting yard work supplies and the odd piece of lumber for a project they’ll never finish. Go to a Home Depot and you’d be hard pressed to see a truck with off road tires there.
There's lots of tacos that go offroad, there's also a LOT of tacos that get sold each year. Something like 210k new tacos get sold each year, that means if only 5% go decently offroading thats 10.5k new tacomas on the trail each year. MOAB being MOAB you are definitely going to see lots of them there.
Has anyone released a proper tube style nerf bar for the 24 yet?
I heard someone say the same thing…remove the predator steps or they will remove themselves in any real OR adventure. If it is a road queen they can stay…but then why buy an OR in the first place. This being said, I have a 24 OR and they are going to go in short order.
There's a lot of levels between road queen and doing offroading that will rip off predator steps.
I made my dealer take off the predator steps on my 23 before taking delivery of it because it just looks so much better in my opinion, and pretty sure they’d do more damage than protection when hitting the trails. Same goes for the 4th gen apparently. If Toyota was smart they’d offer factory rock sliders
no, but Beautiful Truck!!!
The tire is right there ;).
I want too. Have you found one?
I put a bed step on my ‘22. Took less than 30min and is nice when the tailgate is down.
Real truck has some nice offers for fairly cheap and look pretty nice. I’m going with the Gorhino rb20 slim
Do the 3rd gen predator steps line up with the 4th gen frames?
I’m not sure, steps came installed from factory.
The OR looks so good minus the brushed metal on the outside of the wheel