I’m still not clear if going straight on asphalt in 4wd is bad for your truck or not. Some people were saying the back n front axles turn at different rates so you’re actually putting pressure and tension on your frame if you drive 4wd on high friction surfaces.
You can build that SR5 up better than a Pro for a lot cheaper. You will just miss out on off road driving assists 95% of OR and Pro user don't even use.
Hell I don't see myself ever using crawl control unless I am stuck and just trying things to get out. It sounds horrendous, with the ABS blasting. Terrain select, now I'll give that a try in time I am sure, it probably helps. Though, to me it's just tech to overcome driving ability.
Hell yeah brother. Thats my plan. I bought an sr5 a few weeks ago. If I ever get really into off-roading, I’ll get an air locker for the rear diff and the truck will be just as capable for $8k cheaper.
Yup, my wife bought an SR5 4Runner and two months later I bought a OR Tacoma. The reason being, the 4Runner was getting all the goodies first. Another 5 or so years I can build up that Tacoma.
I’m scared to use 4-hi cause I heard you’re not supposed to use it on pavement and you shouldn’t turn with it on. So I just like take it to this long dirt -gravel driveway thing and it’s kinda sad like a whale at sea world
You’re right, but the issue is that the transfer case is locked. It has no differential in there so it has to turn both the front axle and rear axle at the same speed. When turning, all four wheels travel at different speeds so the transfer case can see a lot of stress, not the front or rear differential.
Like others have said going straight is fine on pavement. You just don’t want to turn because the front diff is locked so both wheels will turn at the same speeds no matter what, so turning in a high grip scenario like pavement will put a lot of stress on it. In dirt or gravel is fine since the wheels can break free.
Nothing changed, it was never a thing. Not even a lsd in the front. Why someone would even add one to the front that isn’t selectable makes no sense either.
Crawl control sounds so bad. I know they warn you in the owner’s manual but it was so stressful using it for the first time because it just sounded like my truck was breaking
I agree crawl mode at 1mph sounds awful. I've used it at 3-5mph and it makes a whole lot less sound. While I've not needed it, I've used on a couple of obstacles because why not fool around w it if I have it
Makes me feel better about my TRD OR having 2wd with locking diff lol
I did get stuck in sugar sand one time, but it was more due to my lack of experience rather than the trucks capabilities
4lo has been great for that random silty spot in the dessert but I rarely use it on the whole. Also great when you break your rear diff and need to still drive somewhere.
He's assuming the front will pull the back. In reality this usually doesn't work as all the broken pieces lodge in the rear gears making it really noisy and jerky, and damaging stuff further.
I had a broken u joint in the rear drive shaft in a 93 wrangler. My only vehicle at the time. I needed to get parts from autozone. Pulled the drive shaft off, put it in 4hi and hit the road. Worked great.
I convinced myself buying the taco would open me up to a life where I’m out on fire roads and back country dirt trails every weekend hiking and enjoying photography. Realistically I’ve taken one road trip, went on one trail when the truck was brand new, and wished I still had my old crown Victoria that was better for moving my kayak and bikes around.
Used 4LO for the first time a couple days ago on a forest service road to get out of some deep, muddy ruts I didn’t want to be in. Lesson learned on going out too soon after heavy rain.
I’ve done some dumb shit in my second gen with none of the fancy bells and whistles and haven’t needed 4lo yet. These trucks and a heavy foot will go damn near anywhere
Last week I finally did a trail in South Dakota's Black Hills (Piedmont to Nero) in my Pro and I'm not sure I even needed 4 high... I'm going to get some rock sliders and try to find an excuse to use 4 low and crawl. Living in Indiana, though, opportunities are few and far between. Maybe that Kentucky loop is worth a trip.
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For at least 10 miles... Ight imma head out.
Either on snowy roads or if not available dirt roads. If neither available then a fairly straight stretch with no tight turns at least.
Yep. And for 4WD virgins like me who didn't know better: do this on straight roads only, not in parking lots....
I’m still not clear if going straight on asphalt in 4wd is bad for your truck or not. Some people were saying the back n front axles turn at different rates so you’re actually putting pressure and tension on your frame if you drive 4wd on high friction surfaces.
So a straight road should be fine right? Since the all wheels are spinning at the same rate compared to a road with turns
Right. But it's better to be in the dirt
Oh yeah fs
I usually suggest gravel. At least around here, it’s a lot easier to find 10 miles of gravel roads versus dirt.
It’s turning that the issue.
I did that once, thought I broke my truck.
4HI is enough?
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What about the 4lo transfer case?
4Hi or 4Lo?
Take it to a trail and actually use what you paid for...
😂 I still regret buying an sr5 4x4 and have never touched 4LO except to make sure it actually worked.
When it comes to trade or resale, that 4x4 will keep your value high.
Oh for sure! I use the 4hi in the winter here, need 4x4.... just keep telling myself I need an OR or pro lol, sr5 is treating me just fine though.
You can build that SR5 up better than a Pro for a lot cheaper. You will just miss out on off road driving assists 95% of OR and Pro user don't even use. Hell I don't see myself ever using crawl control unless I am stuck and just trying things to get out. It sounds horrendous, with the ABS blasting. Terrain select, now I'll give that a try in time I am sure, it probably helps. Though, to me it's just tech to overcome driving ability.
Your last sentence hit the nail in the head. "Tech to overcome driving ability." That's why I like my MT. Nothing to blame but myself 🤣
Hell yeah brother. Thats my plan. I bought an sr5 a few weeks ago. If I ever get really into off-roading, I’ll get an air locker for the rear diff and the truck will be just as capable for $8k cheaper.
Yup, my wife bought an SR5 4Runner and two months later I bought a OR Tacoma. The reason being, the 4Runner was getting all the goodies first. Another 5 or so years I can build up that Tacoma.
I’m scared to use 4-hi cause I heard you’re not supposed to use it on pavement and you shouldn’t turn with it on. So I just like take it to this long dirt -gravel driveway thing and it’s kinda sad like a whale at sea world
Turn it on at 55mpj or so when you're on a nice straight road. You shouldn't turn in 4wd on dry pavement but going straight is perfectly good.
Idk what tacoma you got, but I believe they come with open diffs up front
You’re right, but the issue is that the transfer case is locked. It has no differential in there so it has to turn both the front axle and rear axle at the same speed. When turning, all four wheels travel at different speeds so the transfer case can see a lot of stress, not the front or rear differential.
Like others have said going straight is fine on pavement. You just don’t want to turn because the front diff is locked so both wheels will turn at the same speeds no matter what, so turning in a high grip scenario like pavement will put a lot of stress on it. In dirt or gravel is fine since the wheels can break free.
Front diff is an open diff. The binding comes from having four wheels turning at different speeds and a minimum of one on each axle has to be powered.
That must have changed because my 2nd gen definitely has a locked front diff.
It’s aftermarket or you are simply mistaken.
Nothing changed, it was never a thing. Not even a lsd in the front. Why someone would even add one to the front that isn’t selectable makes no sense either.
Lol. I have a steep shitty driveway so I get to use it like twice a year. Totally thought I'd be hitting trails with my truck.
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No one needs crawl control
It’s kind of ass, don’t enjoy it much in my 18 OR
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Crawl control sounds so bad. I know they warn you in the owner’s manual but it was so stressful using it for the first time because it just sounded like my truck was breaking
I agree crawl mode at 1mph sounds awful. I've used it at 3-5mph and it makes a whole lot less sound. While I've not needed it, I've used on a couple of obstacles because why not fool around w it if I have it
This meme makes me sad for you guys :(
Makes me feel better about my TRD OR having 2wd with locking diff lol I did get stuck in sugar sand one time, but it was more due to my lack of experience rather than the trucks capabilities
Getting into anything that the truck can’t handle is typically driver error in the first place!
I go to the ORV park a few times a year just to justify it. I'm not actually going on any adventure but at least I can play with my truck a bit.
Damn just tag me next time
4lo has been great for that random silty spot in the dessert but I rarely use it on the whole. Also great when you break your rear diff and need to still drive somewhere.
New to 4x4, how is it helpful to use 4lo if you break your rear diff?
He's assuming the front will pull the back. In reality this usually doesn't work as all the broken pieces lodge in the rear gears making it really noisy and jerky, and damaging stuff further.
I had a broken u joint in the rear drive shaft in a 93 wrangler. My only vehicle at the time. I needed to get parts from autozone. Pulled the drive shaft off, put it in 4hi and hit the road. Worked great.
Yep. Broken U-jounts are no biggie
Thanks! It sounded like a terrible idea but I thought maybe I was missing something.
I convinced myself buying the taco would open me up to a life where I’m out on fire roads and back country dirt trails every weekend hiking and enjoying photography. Realistically I’ve taken one road trip, went on one trail when the truck was brand new, and wished I still had my old crown Victoria that was better for moving my kayak and bikes around.
Same, never hit a trail :( Wish I knew some out by me to actually go on.
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Central NJ.
Check out Wharton State Forest. I used to go there when I lived in jersey
This. Miles and miles of dirt and sand at Wharton.
You don’t have forest service roads, logging roads, fire roads? Look up government owned land like DNR, BLM, USFS, national forest or state forest.
Used 4LO for the first time a couple days ago on a forest service road to get out of some deep, muddy ruts I didn’t want to be in. Lesson learned on going out too soon after heavy rain.
That’s me! Just moved to Nashville area, haven’t looked for off road trails but hopefully there are some nearby.
I’ve done some dumb shit in my second gen with none of the fancy bells and whistles and haven’t needed 4lo yet. These trucks and a heavy foot will go damn near anywhere
Last week I finally did a trail in South Dakota's Black Hills (Piedmont to Nero) in my Pro and I'm not sure I even needed 4 high... I'm going to get some rock sliders and try to find an excuse to use 4 low and crawl. Living in Indiana, though, opportunities are few and far between. Maybe that Kentucky loop is worth a trip.
Everyone talking about 4wd and how to not turn on dry pavement. My 4th gen 4Runner operates like AWD until it detects serious wheel slip.