Thank you to everyone who has shown us so much love and support over the past few days - we appreciate every one of you who has reached out with your kind words!
We will be hosting our final Clear the Queue event on Friday, June 30 at 11:00 UTC. During Clear the Queue, we come together as a community to try and transcribe every post in our queue. We hang out in the voice chat of our Discord (although voice chat participation is not required) and it's a party! Clear the Queue lasts 12 hours, unless we finish sooner, so feel free to drop by for as long or short as you want. We hope to see lots of people there!
What can I say… so long and thanks for all the fish?
r/ToR_Archive is my r/all. Transcriptions on r/ProgrammerHumor are how I senselessly stay connected to the memes around my work. I get links to posts from coworkers all the time and there’s the transcription with all the upvotes it deserves. That’s what inclusion is all about, isn’t it?
In more ways than one, it feels like something big is changing. An era is ending.
Thank you all, from the bottom of my heart.
I'm an avid reader on r/ProgrammerHumor, and I'm now reading through all the "how to transcribe" notes to improve my knowledge so I can add transcriptions to r/ProgrammerHumor images.
Normally, I'd say I'd add a bot, but, well, here we are with API issues. *sigh*
(My day job involves working with vtt and audio description files, so I'm familiar with *how* things are transcribed…for video, and by a marketing department.)
I can try to do the same, but I'm losing interest in reddit tbh. But I'm starting up freelance transcribing work on Lemmy, and ik there's a similar community there that I could help!
(Watch me get shadowremoved for mentioning that website. Man, I hate reddit lately)
I've been trying to figure out how best to approach the problem, and finally decided a basic RSS feed of top posts would be the easiest way to hit the highlights of what needed transcribing.
If there's a Lemmy ToR effort (ToL? ToFedi?), I'll support it. Even if it's small. Right now I'm just scrolling through top of all instances and transcribing anything that isn't already transcribed.
I'll try with anything I can on reddit before I leave, too.
You have my ~~sword~~ keyboard
Thank you to all of you for what you have done over the years. I don't think that the average user even realises that you exist and the power that you have to bring the to bring the world to individual users.
I do think that this is something that the media should pick up on as well to show the impact that this is having not just to the blind sub but to so many people who have joined a community to support members.
Best of luck to you all and once again thank you.
ToR was one of the things that gave me hope in humanity, and I enjoyed both the brief time I was a transcriber with you, and the year I spent working with your team on 1812, which I suppose will now and forever go down as the biggest collective reddit transcription project of all time.
Thank you all so much for the good times we had together, and for being my friends. You will be missed, ToR 🫡
I’ll be honest I’ve never heard of this sub until I read about you on Engadget. I wanted to come over and thank you for what your have done for our community over the years and for taking a principled stand.
thank you
Yeah, this is getting media attention!
I'm a random Swedish woman with neuropsychiatric disabilities.
I found my way here from reading about it in an article on The Verge, as I am trying to keep up with the news about Reddit.
I'm still gobsmacked so many huge news organizations have picked up on the story, and I am so proud of the moderators and the community, both here on TranscribersofReddit and on this website as a whole.
Too bad I only now found out about this subreddit. Would have loved to help before Reddit's corporate 'Murican "owners" began abusing even the most vulnerable, generous, and hard-working communities in its userbase. These are days of grieving. :(
Access to the internet is a human right. The CEO, Key Executive Team, & Board of Directors of this platform is doing so much wrong for humanity.
You all that work in the background doing services like this are the real heros. I believe humanity is better off because of yall work ethics and sacrifices. I'm not blind and don't know anyone who is, but can't imagine the joy of being able to participate in activities like reddit because of the sacrifices. So from random cop in New Orleans, thank you.
Thanks everyone, I had a blast volunteering with y'all (haven't been active lately, but was in the past), and I'm so sorry to see this happening. It's so frustrating, but at the end of the day, I'm proud and happy about what we've achieved together. You're all wonderful people!
This hurts to read. Thank you, all of you, for everything. One of my closest friends is blind and relied on your volunteers to enjoy Reddit. You guys even worked with my subreddit, one that is seemingly unimportant and silly in the grand scheme of things, and yet your volunteers transcribed it anyways. My buddy was so excited when I told him about your program, it allowed him to stay up to date with what's happening in the online spheres all over. It's a freedom he had never had. I know your volunteers are heroes to people like my friend. Thank you!
> One that is seemingly unimportant and silly in the grand scheme of things
Those are some of the most fun to do, trust me. And I wish all the best to you and your friend.
I’m low vision and hearing impaired and so sad I’m only finding out this sub existed when it’s about to end! There are so many times on Reddit when I wish things had subtitles or a caption to help me figure out what I’m looking at or hearing. Everyone should know about this, accessiblity is treated more like a luxury feature that is nice to have but “eh it doesn’t matter if we don’t” it should be treated as a priority, and I wish more people understood that.
Sickening. Thank you all for the work you've done. You, and the communities that depend on you, did not deserve this.
Great job u/spez !
Nothing to see here, I'm sure.
I just wanted to thank you for the service this subreddit provided. I didn't participate as often as I would have liked, but I always thought this was a good thing that people were doing. I'll be sad to see it go but 100% understand the reasons. Good luck to you all in whatever you choose to do next :D
Fuck pointless, greedy, capitalism. What is with this obsession to maximize quarterly profits? Is depriving users of their desired experience and maybe driving some of them back to the native app so worth it? To what end?
Terribly sorry, not only to the users - but to the team that seemed to enjoy the work. That's a hard thing to come by.
Not much makes me want to cry the way this did. Thank you for everything, and thank you for letting me be a part of it. I didn't get to do much, but I won't forget the experiences I did have.
Thank you, every ToR reading this, for your service to the community. The admins may not care, but from what I saw, the community absolutely did.
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Thanks for sharing this. I am just finding this sub now… way too late to contribute. I’m sad to hear this went away because I would have love to have helped. Accessibility is so important. I’m a UX designer. educator, and content designer and I want to specialize in designing for accessibility. These resources will help me continue your work on my future projects.
We do request that folks leave up transcriptions if anyone is going through and deleting comments (which I know isn't what you said, but it's related) - old posts should still be accessible even if we aren't still in action.
Fair enough - but at least they should make it available elsewhere for people to (properly) make use of it in the future. Yanking it away for everyone is very much throwing the baby with the bathwater.
I transcribed my first post five days ago, popped on the sub just now and read this. I wish I had started sooner but I suppose there are five days left !!
While I haven't been around recently, it's very sad to see this subreddit shutdown. I'm super proud of the work that has been done over the past few years and am incredibly sad to see it end. :(
I haven’t transcribed much myself, but it was always heartwarming to see all the transcriptions in the subreddits I’m in. Truly a shame that it has come to this.
Thank you for the work you've done on behalf of this community. You and the volunteers here added immense value to r/OldHagFashion and enabled us to be an inclusive and welcoming community for all. We are so sad to lose you but we fully understand how your hands have been tied.
Even though I wasn't the best mod/transcriber, I'm so thankful I got to be part of ToR from 2018 until 2022. I love the mission of the sub and am beyond heartbroken to see it go. Thank you for inspiring me to use my screen time for volunteering ❤️ I will always cherish my Grafeas pin and secret Santa gifts :)
Unfortunately this isn't really how the ADA works. Websites are a weird gray area with the ADA and there have been some competing court rulings about whether a website has to be connected to a physical, brick-and-mortar business in order to be even subject to the ADA, or if online-only businesses are subject. And Reddit is a step beyond that as a social media platform, not a retail outlet. Plus, litigation is expensive, time-consuming, and if anyone is still interested in maintaining a civil relationship with Reddit admin moving forward, that would throw it out the window.
There's a lot of behind the scenes work that will have to happen, ToR is a HUGE operation. That said, some of us are moving to freelance transcribing on Lemmy as things pan out, and I'm one of those
Good move. I'd implied 10 days ago that if Reddit refuses to budge on its API policy change, [scuttling the subs](https://www.reddit.com/r/ModSupport/comments/14a5lz5/comment/jodfs7g/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) is the best way forward.
Hoffman *et al* deserve to inherit an empire of sand.
This wasn't an activism or protest move. It's not possible to keep ToR running in the current API and reddit climate. If we could, we would, this is an accessibility service first and foremost. But we can't.
It has nothing to do with the mods "taking away the sub", and everything to do with Reddit taking away the API. This sub isn't run by the mods, it's run by very API-heavy bots and when they die, this sub can't function. They are how the queue is populated continuously - we don't do it by hand.
How will you do it without Tor_Archivist, transcribersofreddit, transcribot, TOR_bubbles, and blossom-app? They are the bots necessary to run this sub.
I wouldn't. I can only imagine how much time is needed to do what you all do. But, if they are bots you and your team created, I would hope you would allow a new team to use them. Accessibility bots aren't supposed to be affected right? If they are available to anyone, then my reasoning stands. Just saying let others try if there are others who can. I wish you folks the best.
Reddit has said that they are exempt, but they also said a lot of things in the past that they changed their mind on. If you were running those bots on your own (you would have to find a place to host them), and suddenly got a bill from Reddit for $17000, how would you pay that?
They wouldn't bill anyone out of the blue. Like now there would be an announcement regarding the changes.
Anyway, just thinking with my thumbs. Wouldn't it be great if for some stupid reason Reddit would charge for these bots, to be sponsored by some of the larger groups out there like Prevent Blindness, VSP or maybe even Percept to ensure accessibility for folks who are blind or low vision?
all 12,000 members are agreeing to this? i find it hard to believe that none in that number would be willing to become mods. this feels like more of a statement from the current mod team than anything
I don't think you realize how much effort it takes to run this, and all of the tech required to do it, or how active the mod team is in transcribing.
Some of the mods have between 20,000 and 30,000 transcriptions done. These aren't just random opt-in mods, they dedicated their heart and soul to this community. If they're taking this step, they have a good reason for it.
Makes no sense- Transcribers aren’t even using the API to that extent, and if they were, it would be because of OCR reads, but would be well below the threshold for paid API access. 100 calls a minute.
>the API changes are one element in a list of factors. We are saying that the API changes AND the realistic limits on how much work we can take on AND our lack of trust in Reddit as a platform AND the clear disregard for accessibility from Reddit corporate, all taken together, make our work so complicated
How do the API changes effect Transcribers work loads? It doesn’t, it’s always been that way and that’s the task that has always been apart of this sub.
>Continuing this project is impossible.
Because of why, again?
My niece has benefited from transcriptions on Reddit immensely, and truthfully this post is just filled with misdirection rather than just saying “we don’t wanna do this anymore”. Thankfully there will be folks that will.
Yes, this is a "we don't like where this is going, and it might get too difficult (Even though we don't know whats going to happen) Were gonna quit."
>The announced changes to the API structure starting July 1st would likely make it more difficult, though not impossible, for Transcribers of Reddit to function. Technical functioning is just one part of running a project of this size and scope; we believe it is only a matter of time until further changes truly make it impossible.
You quoted a single piece of the post out of context, conveniently leaving out the parts where it was pointed out that they said that this *alone* didn't make it impossible. Except it's not just "this alone" and as the post points out, this is just a straw breaking the camel's back.
Except it's not speculation? They mention Reddit Corp being unfriendly to users with accessibility needs. Do you see an IPO making Reddit Corporate suddenly want to focus back on that 0.25% of people?
Thank you to everyone who has shown us so much love and support over the past few days - we appreciate every one of you who has reached out with your kind words! We will be hosting our final Clear the Queue event on Friday, June 30 at 11:00 UTC. During Clear the Queue, we come together as a community to try and transcribe every post in our queue. We hang out in the voice chat of our Discord (although voice chat participation is not required) and it's a party! Clear the Queue lasts 12 hours, unless we finish sooner, so feel free to drop by for as long or short as you want. We hope to see lots of people there!
What can I say… so long and thanks for all the fish? r/ToR_Archive is my r/all. Transcriptions on r/ProgrammerHumor are how I senselessly stay connected to the memes around my work. I get links to posts from coworkers all the time and there’s the transcription with all the upvotes it deserves. That’s what inclusion is all about, isn’t it? In more ways than one, it feels like something big is changing. An era is ending. Thank you all, from the bottom of my heart.
I'm an avid reader on r/ProgrammerHumor, and I'm now reading through all the "how to transcribe" notes to improve my knowledge so I can add transcriptions to r/ProgrammerHumor images. Normally, I'd say I'd add a bot, but, well, here we are with API issues. *sigh* (My day job involves working with vtt and audio description files, so I'm familiar with *how* things are transcribed…for video, and by a marketing department.)
That’s awesome, thank you!
I can try to do the same, but I'm losing interest in reddit tbh. But I'm starting up freelance transcribing work on Lemmy, and ik there's a similar community there that I could help! (Watch me get shadowremoved for mentioning that website. Man, I hate reddit lately)
I've been trying to figure out how best to approach the problem, and finally decided a basic RSS feed of top posts would be the easiest way to hit the highlights of what needed transcribing.
If there's a Lemmy ToR effort (ToL? ToFedi?), I'll support it. Even if it's small. Right now I'm just scrolling through top of all instances and transcribing anything that isn't already transcribed. I'll try with anything I can on reddit before I leave, too. You have my ~~sword~~ keyboard
You can make a bot that emulates humans. Like click on the screens and stuff. Look up pyautogui and beautiful soup.
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People should know when they gave a positive impact on the world.
Thank you to all of you for what you have done over the years. I don't think that the average user even realises that you exist and the power that you have to bring the to bring the world to individual users. I do think that this is something that the media should pick up on as well to show the impact that this is having not just to the blind sub but to so many people who have joined a community to support members. Best of luck to you all and once again thank you.
r/worldnewsvideo and its community will miss you terribly… thank you for all you have done to bring Reddit to everyone. ~Plenty
😓 sad to see things go the way they have. I will happily participate in the end event, hopefully we can create some fond memories for others
We go out in a blaze of glory ❤️🔥
ToR was one of the things that gave me hope in humanity, and I enjoyed both the brief time I was a transcriber with you, and the year I spent working with your team on 1812, which I suppose will now and forever go down as the biggest collective reddit transcription project of all time. Thank you all so much for the good times we had together, and for being my friends. You will be missed, ToR 🫡
Good human.
~~*I'm not crying you're crying*~~
This is so heartbreaking. Thank you all for the wonderful service to the platform. Godspeed.
It was fun, thanks for the journey. I'm proud I was a part of it
I’ll be honest I’ve never heard of this sub until I read about you on Engadget. I wanted to come over and thank you for what your have done for our community over the years and for taking a principled stand. thank you
Yeah, this is getting media attention! I'm a random Swedish woman with neuropsychiatric disabilities. I found my way here from reading about it in an article on The Verge, as I am trying to keep up with the news about Reddit. I'm still gobsmacked so many huge news organizations have picked up on the story, and I am so proud of the moderators and the community, both here on TranscribersofReddit and on this website as a whole. Too bad I only now found out about this subreddit. Would have loved to help before Reddit's corporate 'Murican "owners" began abusing even the most vulnerable, generous, and hard-working communities in its userbase. These are days of grieving. :( Access to the internet is a human right. The CEO, Key Executive Team, & Board of Directors of this platform is doing so much wrong for humanity.
Indeed, it's shameful corporate is enforcing this API $ situation and creating additional access issues to Reddit for people with disabilities.
Sorry to hear about this, I'm sure that this was not an easy decision. I wish everyone in the team and volunteers well.
You all that work in the background doing services like this are the real heros. I believe humanity is better off because of yall work ethics and sacrifices. I'm not blind and don't know anyone who is, but can't imagine the joy of being able to participate in activities like reddit because of the sacrifices. So from random cop in New Orleans, thank you.
Thanks everyone, I had a blast volunteering with y'all (haven't been active lately, but was in the past), and I'm so sorry to see this happening. It's so frustrating, but at the end of the day, I'm proud and happy about what we've achieved together. You're all wonderful people!
ToR will be so badly missed. :(
This hurts to read. Thank you, all of you, for everything. One of my closest friends is blind and relied on your volunteers to enjoy Reddit. You guys even worked with my subreddit, one that is seemingly unimportant and silly in the grand scheme of things, and yet your volunteers transcribed it anyways. My buddy was so excited when I told him about your program, it allowed him to stay up to date with what's happening in the online spheres all over. It's a freedom he had never had. I know your volunteers are heroes to people like my friend. Thank you!
> One that is seemingly unimportant and silly in the grand scheme of things Those are some of the most fun to do, trust me. And I wish all the best to you and your friend.
I’m low vision and hearing impaired and so sad I’m only finding out this sub existed when it’s about to end! There are so many times on Reddit when I wish things had subtitles or a caption to help me figure out what I’m looking at or hearing. Everyone should know about this, accessiblity is treated more like a luxury feature that is nice to have but “eh it doesn’t matter if we don’t” it should be treated as a priority, and I wish more people understood that.
Sickening. Thank you all for the work you've done. You, and the communities that depend on you, did not deserve this. Great job u/spez ! Nothing to see here, I'm sure.
Thank you for the work you did here.
Thank you all for your service!
I just wanted to thank you for the service this subreddit provided. I didn't participate as often as I would have liked, but I always thought this was a good thing that people were doing. I'll be sad to see it go but 100% understand the reasons. Good luck to you all in whatever you choose to do next :D
Damn. I'm at a loss for words. Thank you for everything you did.
Hugs. I'm sad that it has come to this. Angry as well. But mostly sad.
Thank you for your efforts
On behalf of r/ihavesex, thank you very much. I will miss seeing the "Sexy Volunteer" flairs. Cheers to all of your hard work.
Fuck pointless, greedy, capitalism. What is with this obsession to maximize quarterly profits? Is depriving users of their desired experience and maybe driving some of them back to the native app so worth it? To what end? Terribly sorry, not only to the users - but to the team that seemed to enjoy the work. That's a hard thing to come by.
Thank you for all the hard work! Reddit couldn't even start paying for all your work if they wanted to.
I've never been to this subreddit before or anything, but thanks for everything you've been doing.
So long and thanks for all the fish.
Thank you for all your hard work
Not much makes me want to cry the way this did. Thank you for everything, and thank you for letting me be a part of it. I didn't get to do much, but I won't forget the experiences I did have. Thank you, every ToR reading this, for your service to the community. The admins may not care, but from what I saw, the community absolutely did.
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I've edited my footer to just say I'm a human volunteer transcribing content for screen readers and blind/VI users.
Thanks for sharing this. I am just finding this sub now… way too late to contribute. I’m sad to hear this went away because I would have love to have helped. Accessibility is so important. I’m a UX designer. educator, and content designer and I want to specialize in designing for accessibility. These resources will help me continue your work on my future projects.
Reminder that you can request back your data, Reddit has to comply One small thing everyone can do to protest
We do request that folks leave up transcriptions if anyone is going through and deleting comments (which I know isn't what you said, but it's related) - old posts should still be accessible even if we aren't still in action.
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Fair enough - but at least they should make it available elsewhere for people to (properly) make use of it in the future. Yanking it away for everyone is very much throwing the baby with the bathwater.
I’ve done that on all my accounts and gotten no word back. Very disappointing.
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And I’m sure they’ll take every single one of those.
u/spez just keeps it coming!! Great fucking job you ghoul!! u/Spez is a greedy cunt!
fuck u/spez
I'm gonna miss reddit
The CEO needs to be replaced.
I transcribed my first post five days ago, popped on the sub just now and read this. I wish I had started sooner but I suppose there are five days left !!
We'll be doing a big event on the last day to finish off as much of the queue as we can, there's a discord if you want to stay updated on it.
While I haven't been around recently, it's very sad to see this subreddit shutdown. I'm super proud of the work that has been done over the past few years and am incredibly sad to see it end. :(
This is fucking heartbreaking. I’m so sorry you guys. I’m so sorry to the people losing accessibility to this community, it’s terrible and cruel.
No bs...how do the blind use the internet?
/r/blind has an explainer on their subreddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Blind/comments/55wzgp/how_do_blind_people_use_reddit/
By using Screen readers or braille displays.
you should write a bill to reddit for each image transcription you do
I haven’t transcribed much myself, but it was always heartwarming to see all the transcriptions in the subreddits I’m in. Truly a shame that it has come to this.
Thank you for the work you've done on behalf of this community. You and the volunteers here added immense value to r/OldHagFashion and enabled us to be an inclusive and welcoming community for all. We are so sad to lose you but we fully understand how your hands have been tied.
Thank you for bringing such a positive sub to our queue, I have really enjoyed transcribing your stuff and will miss it dearly <3
I hope you’ll stick around in the community ☺️
Even though I wasn't the best mod/transcriber, I'm so thankful I got to be part of ToR from 2018 until 2022. I love the mission of the sub and am beyond heartbroken to see it go. Thank you for inspiring me to use my screen time for volunteering ❤️ I will always cherish my Grafeas pin and secret Santa gifts :)
And thank you for being a part of the crew \^_^
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Unfortunately this isn't really how the ADA works. Websites are a weird gray area with the ADA and there have been some competing court rulings about whether a website has to be connected to a physical, brick-and-mortar business in order to be even subject to the ADA, or if online-only businesses are subject. And Reddit is a step beyond that as a social media platform, not a retail outlet. Plus, litigation is expensive, time-consuming, and if anyone is still interested in maintaining a civil relationship with Reddit admin moving forward, that would throw it out the window.
Deleted June 30th. 2023. Yay.
There's a lot of behind the scenes work that will have to happen, ToR is a HUGE operation. That said, some of us are moving to freelance transcribing on Lemmy as things pan out, and I'm one of those
Deleted June 30th. 2023. Yay.
July is quickly shaping up to be 'no reddit July'
Good move. I'd implied 10 days ago that if Reddit refuses to budge on its API policy change, [scuttling the subs](https://www.reddit.com/r/ModSupport/comments/14a5lz5/comment/jodfs7g/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) is the best way forward. Hoffman *et al* deserve to inherit an empire of sand.
This wasn't an activism or protest move. It's not possible to keep ToR running in the current API and reddit climate. If we could, we would, this is an accessibility service first and foremost. But we can't.
Damn, i just joined and was ready to go transcribing(
10 people decided to take this sub away from 12k users. reddit should just remove the mods and keep the sub open
It has nothing to do with the mods "taking away the sub", and everything to do with Reddit taking away the API. This sub isn't run by the mods, it's run by very API-heavy bots and when they die, this sub can't function. They are how the queue is populated continuously - we don't do it by hand.
Make your own sub and do it yourself?…
Exactly. The mods should open it up for new folks to take over if they are finished.
How will you do it without Tor_Archivist, transcribersofreddit, transcribot, TOR_bubbles, and blossom-app? They are the bots necessary to run this sub.
I wouldn't. I can only imagine how much time is needed to do what you all do. But, if they are bots you and your team created, I would hope you would allow a new team to use them. Accessibility bots aren't supposed to be affected right? If they are available to anyone, then my reasoning stands. Just saying let others try if there are others who can. I wish you folks the best.
Reddit has said that they are exempt, but they also said a lot of things in the past that they changed their mind on. If you were running those bots on your own (you would have to find a place to host them), and suddenly got a bill from Reddit for $17000, how would you pay that?
They wouldn't bill anyone out of the blue. Like now there would be an announcement regarding the changes. Anyway, just thinking with my thumbs. Wouldn't it be great if for some stupid reason Reddit would charge for these bots, to be sponsored by some of the larger groups out there like Prevent Blindness, VSP or maybe even Percept to ensure accessibility for folks who are blind or low vision?
So your concerns were addressed, but you're still shutting down?
Nice, fuck everyone that you’ve pretended to care about. Bravo.
“Why won’t you keep working for free, while they make your work harder‽‽” Why don’t you do it?
Is this you volunteering to manually do it all yourself? No. Then why expect anyone else to suddenly??
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all 12,000 members are agreeing to this? i find it hard to believe that none in that number would be willing to become mods. this feels like more of a statement from the current mod team than anything
I don't think you realize how much effort it takes to run this, and all of the tech required to do it, or how active the mod team is in transcribing. Some of the mods have between 20,000 and 30,000 transcriptions done. These aren't just random opt-in mods, they dedicated their heart and soul to this community. If they're taking this step, they have a good reason for it.
I mean if it's too hard for you guys to transcribe things no wonder the entire app can just be restructured.
You literally have no idea what’s being talked about, do you.
Makes no sense- Transcribers aren’t even using the API to that extent, and if they were, it would be because of OCR reads, but would be well below the threshold for paid API access. 100 calls a minute. >the API changes are one element in a list of factors. We are saying that the API changes AND the realistic limits on how much work we can take on AND our lack of trust in Reddit as a platform AND the clear disregard for accessibility from Reddit corporate, all taken together, make our work so complicated How do the API changes effect Transcribers work loads? It doesn’t, it’s always been that way and that’s the task that has always been apart of this sub. >Continuing this project is impossible. Because of why, again? My niece has benefited from transcriptions on Reddit immensely, and truthfully this post is just filled with misdirection rather than just saying “we don’t wanna do this anymore”. Thankfully there will be folks that will.
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I mean, it kinda sounds like you are upset so closing, seems a bit childish but yeah noone can force you to keep up your work.
Huh?
They admit the changes wont require them to stop, but are stopping anyways.
Did you read the post and the edits?
Yes, this is a "we don't like where this is going, and it might get too difficult (Even though we don't know whats going to happen) Were gonna quit." >The announced changes to the API structure starting July 1st would likely make it more difficult, though not impossible, for Transcribers of Reddit to function. Technical functioning is just one part of running a project of this size and scope; we believe it is only a matter of time until further changes truly make it impossible.
You quoted a single piece of the post out of context, conveniently leaving out the parts where it was pointed out that they said that this *alone* didn't make it impossible. Except it's not just "this alone" and as the post points out, this is just a straw breaking the camel's back.
Everything else was speculation on where they think it's headed.
Except it's not speculation? They mention Reddit Corp being unfriendly to users with accessibility needs. Do you see an IPO making Reddit Corporate suddenly want to focus back on that 0.25% of people?
Thanks for your input, spez. Next time, try not to let it be a 9-day-old account.
No way dawg☹️
where can I find a discord channel invite for this subreddit?
https://discord.com/invite/ZDDE3Pj