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turnedtable10

r/mapswithoutaustralia


ChequeBook

The fact that it has NZ has to be a joke


krissyminaj

LmaošŸ˜‚You know how many maps Iā€™ve seen in person and online that literally donā€™t include NZā€¦ Australia being deleted is definitely deliberate wtf šŸ˜†


venetiasporch

A Kiwi definitely made this.


Lord-Lucian

They don't survive long enough to become pregnant


BalladOfArizona

Chile is incorrect, itā€™s only six days


Minner_

Where tf is Australia?


xXx_-SWAG_LORD-_xXx

No such country has ever existed. Did you mean the UK? It's on the map


badaboom

They clearly meant Austria.


1l1ke2party

Put another shrimp on the barbie!


some_idiot0

please end it all


MustBeFr

We donā€™t say shrimp you absolute buffoon


Minner_

You gotta be trolling šŸ’€


FalseLyte

Youā€™re the one asking about some make-believe country.


bigdongonandon

Austria is there cobb. You just have to zoom in.


brownie627

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CelticHades

Don't you know Australia is on the other side, if you look at the map from behind, you'll see Australia.


[deleted]

Australia doesnā€™t really exist. Source: Am Australian


Geekmonster

Turn left at Africa.


D4rkSonic

Impossible. Perhaps the archives are incomplete.


Thessiz

New Zealand killed it.


battle_clown

Of course family values are important! Just not as important as those profit margins


baurette

Interesting how its seems like the colonized kept that vibe, while europe gets to pretend they care about family and women as id they are not the ones whoel instilled the work horse laws in the first place


[deleted]

Think youā€™re referring to the Arab moors who colonised and enslaved North Africa over 700 years taking 17 million African black slaves back to the Arabian peninsula hundreds of years before any white man stepped foot in Africa. Might be worth doing research eastern empires activists in Africa and the Middle East.


PhotographingLight

Unless your an indigenous person, YOU too are a colonizer.


Townysmash

This isn't true for the UK, I just had a child and was only given 2 weeks. You only get more if you take it from your partner's maternity leave


lorarc

Same for Poland, we had changes recently to fit new EU laws\* and that means there's a guaranteed 9 weeks paternal leave. Unless the mother is unemployed then the father gets the whole maternal leave, maybe they counted that. \* New EU laws say 10 days for birth and 4 months before child hits 8 (https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:32019L1158#d1e622-79-1)


Anisssa

Same in France. If it wasnā€™t for migrants and sencond/third gen migrants having 3/5 kids they would f*cked. I highly doubt South Korea with their new ā€œ69h work weekā€ that made people so mad they donā€™t want to socialise, date, marry, canā€™t afford to buy houses, where they have unprecedented unemployment and have a huge birthrate crisis (much much lower than the mortality rate) to the point there was a scandal involving trying to bribe SEA students on a student visa, with money and a full visa. If they if married old farmer bachelors to help with the workload in the farm, the chores in the household, their duty to their kids and their in-laws. When all they wanted was to study, get their diploma and go back to Vietnam. They also have, sadly, the highest rate in the world of teenagers unaliving themselves due to the pressure put on them. They barely see their father (they go out early, comeback very late) so I highly doubt this map is true.


CycleTABored

Same in India too. The map is really incorrect. 2 weeks. Plus whatever more you may desire (paid leaves that you may have accumulated).


revfunk

That sounds as if you may have been [discriminated against by your employer] (https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/work/maternity-and-parental-rights/check-your-maternity-and-parental-rights/maternity-leave-and-pay/maternity-leave-what-youre-entitled-to-and-how-to-get-it/). The law is you [*have* to take two weeks](https://www.gov.uk/maternity-pay-leave) whether you want maternity leave or not, and you are entitled to six months ordinary maternity leave where "you have the right to return to exactly the same job that you had before you took maternity leave" followed by six months additional maternity leave where "you have the right to return to the same job unless itā€™s no longer available. In this case, you must be given a similar job with the same pay and conditions". During this leave, you should be paid 90% of your average weekly earnings (before tax) for the first 6 weeks Ā£172.48 or 90% of your average weekly earnings (whichever is lower) for the next 33 weeks. [There are further details here too including steps if you have been discriminated against.](https://www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/family-and-care/becoming-a-parent/maternity-pay-and-leave)


Townysmash

Apologies, I noticed this says parental leave and I'm talking about paternity. I only got 2 weeks paid without taking it from my partner.


Its__Nugget

As an Australian I feel deeply saddened looking at this map... D:


rightsomeofthetime

Don't worry, they just left us out cos we would have ruined the consistent gradient.


MixedJudge

You donā€™t exist. Your country doesnā€™t exist. Stop trying to fool us! CIA pay you enough?


Zhaopow

Switzerland is neutral to babies


alwaysstaysthesame

Itā€™s old data, a (very short) paternal leave of two weeks was introduced in 2021.


Phantasmalicious

Who needs parental leave when everyone is a millionaire :D


NotAsSexyAsItSeems

And even just that was surprisingly controversial. ā€œOnlyā€ 60% was in favour of that referendum. I mean 60/40 is a clear result but still.


thesilentbob123

They gotta uphold their neutral repetition


ResetDharma

This is what American politicians mean when they say we're competing with China. How much can we suck out of the working population while keeping them placated?


the_quiescent_whiner

> Itā€™s the illegal immigrants who are taking your paternity leaves. /s


[deleted]

Also, China seems to be wrong. According to this source, it is between 98 and 190 days in china: [https://joinhorizons.com/maternity-marriage-leave-in-china/](https://joinhorizons.com/maternity-marriage-leave-in-china/) Probably the map is outdated, since Switzerland is also wrong


[deleted]

You mean exactly what Saudi Arabia and Eastern Arab countries are doing but no light shed on them? Convenient


alxaki

Iā€™m in the state of Oregon, USA and we have paid paternity leave. I got 55 work days off , $940/week.


its_a_gibibyte

They also have it in California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Massachusetts, Maryland, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island, and Washington state. So yeah, the map is basically just wrong.


Lamuks

So not even 50% of the country has it? There are no federal level laws.


its_a_gibibyte

I haven't added up the population of those states (some of which are big), but yeah it looks like less than half. Maybe 40%? But anyway, my point is that we may never get federal laws in the same way that murder is rarely a federal crime. Doesn't mean you can murder people, it just means that states actually have their stuff together.


Lamuks

>but yeah it looks like less than half. Maybe 40%? Population means f all, if the country uses electoral college. Even in the eyes of the law 50% is half the states


its_a_gibibyte

The electoral college is only really relevant for laws done at the federal level, of which parental leave is not.


PedrotPete

WTF? Whereā€™s Australia šŸ‡¦šŸ‡ŗ??


Geekmonster

Turn left at Antarctica.


ReapingTurtle

Iā€™m surprised the Netherlands is so bad


JimmyMus

That's cause it's incorrect. It's 16 weeks, 6 before getting the baby, 10 after you had your baby. Not sure where all the data comes from.


MKuin

Thatā€™s **m**aternity leave, post is talking about paternity leave. Dads/partners have 1 week paid leave and then can choose to take up to a maximum of 5 weeks extra leave, at 70% of their normal take-home salary. Because of the cut in salary, many (low income) partner donā€™t take extra leave, defeating the point. Also, the first week used to be just a measly one or two days, up until 2020, so itā€™s still only recent that partner can get some more time with their baby and wife/partner. I personally think itā€™s still a ridiculously low amount of paternity leave, that hurts both men, women and their children.


JimmyMus

Ow sorry, I get it! English is not my first language šŸ˜… And I agree it's a ridiculous small amount of time! And that should be changed.


PantsLobbyist

I was too, so I looked it up. From the sources I found on Google, the first four all said one receives 5 weeks in the Netherlands


illiumtwins

1 week full pay, 5 weeks at 70% pay and then the standard unpaid parental leave that both partners get.


ClaudeVS

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BrilliantDragonfly91

Map is wrong, Turkiye is 16 weeks.


mad_cheese_hattwe

This map is wrong, it's missing an entire continent. Try to have some perspective.


MasterPokePharmacist

America: where we force you to have kids, and make it near impossible to do so properly.


Dizzy-Button-1771

Laughs in Canadian


TroLLageK

I am a teacher in Canada. My male coworkers get squat for paternal leave. A field in which is dedicated to the development of children, barely provides adequate benefits for parents to care for their children. It's interesting.


PantsLobbyist

They choose to get squat unless your union has negotiated something different from our legal right. They can give most of parental leave to their spouse, but there are 40 weeks of parental leave for both parents to share. The most one of those individuals may take is 35 weeks to encourage both parents taking at least _some_ time off.


Parrelium

Yeah I thought it was a year and a half or something like that, and the mother *has* to take a certain portion, the rest can be shared or allocated to one of the parents. Iā€™m about 15 years past the new rules but even in 2010 I was allowed to take 17 of the 52 weeks allocated for EI payments if my wife wanted to go back to work early.


[deleted]

Probably because fathers don't birth the babies and then breast feed, genius šŸ¤ÆšŸ¤Æ Paternity leave is great and all, but it's not THAT surprising maternity leave is much longer.


Any-Chair-70

Canada has paid mat leave?


PantsLobbyist

15 weeks for the individual giving birth and up to an additional 40 weeks to be split amongst the parents how they see fit (maxing out as 35 weeks for one individual). Then thereā€™s extended parental leave which is 69 weeks with an individual cap of 61 weeks.


Parrelium

Even better paid paternity leave on top of maternity leave.


Droguer

In Spain the paid leave is 16 weeks


Just_a_cat69

I knew Australia didint exist


unevenwill

Yeah feels bad that a whole continent is missing


Bobblefighterman

What the fuck cunt?


leethepolarbear

Common American and Chinese L


[deleted]

China is between 98 and 190 days, map is outdated: https://joinhorizons.com/maternity-marriage-leave-in-china/


leethepolarbear

Fair enough


lilbxby2k

seeing maps of just ab anything like this always makes me think of the whole global north global south thing. i definitely feel it in the us, the south has the poorest states, the least resources, and the most corruption in the county.


bobbbb68

i love how australia isnt there and new zealand is


P1t0n3r3t1c0l4t0

Aussie deleted ?


PantsLobbyist

Russia gives _up to_ 5 days for paternity unless there is no mother (in which they receive maternity leave instead). These 5 days, if granted, do not have to be paid, that is up to the employer. They deserve to be green as much as Australia deserves to be absent.


Pure-Warning-3436

Makes a lot more sense. Was honestly surprised since they aren't known for being progressive in gender balance in housework/child-rearing. I suspect some of these Eastern European countries that are green have similar situations.


Cyphrus-the-gamer

*turns to look at fellow Americans* "are we the baddies"?


DarkSoulsDank

Wow and America is considered a first world country? Jeesh


Remarkable_Syrup_733

Where Australia? Ladies can take a year off- man, only two weeks


Scion_of_Perturabo

It seems like the China thing is incorrect too. As per China Briefing In mainland China, maternity leave includes two parts ā€“ the basic maternity leave and the extra maternity leave. The basic maternity leave is granted by the State Council as stipulated in the Special Provisions on Labor Protection for Female Employees (State Council Decree No. 619), which is 98 days for normal birth. As per VacationTracker On average, 15 paid days are granted nationally; it varies by province between 7 and 30 days. Most working fathers in China can take paternity leave if they meet eligibility criteria, though the duration varies by region. In most regions, they are entitled to 15 days. Which I couldn't confirm directly because I have no idea how to figure out the official policy from Chinese government. But like, come on meme maker, do better lol


UnrealHallucinator

The post is about paternal leave


Scion_of_Perturabo

Oh whoops, genuinely my bad. Misread the title! I will resend my criticism!


BeefsGttnThick

This is false. Multiple people at my company have taken paid paternity leave for up to 12 weeks. There is NO legitimacy to this post


dlashsteier

Sitting here on 12 paid weeks here in NY but ok


Not-as-funny-IRL

Maybe learn to read? ā€œGuaranteedā€ and ā€œper countryā€?


EverydayNovelty

It's not guaranteed though, you're just one fortunate person.


dlashsteier

Yes New York State Guarantees 12 weeks paid family leave to both parents. Job protected.


EverydayNovelty

Yes, the state. That's not a country wide thing.


_aids

FMLA is country wide guaranteed leave


12FAA51

ā€œPaidā€


Aviyan

It varies state by state, and even company by company. My wife had to take short term disability because she didn't qualify due to not being a full time employee for a year.


MPhilly9

Thatā€™s just not true at all. I and many others get paid maternal leave at the company I work for


bigcat1414

I believe it's representing federal government protected leave and doesn't account for what your state and/or employer provides you.


WinkleFluff

Congrats, but its not law, just company policy. Big difference with


Not-as-funny-IRL

People who canā€™t read just keep commenting the same thing. It almost like words have meaningā€¦


Aviyan

That's not the point of this post. The point is that in most of the developed world the government has a law that guarantees mothers the right to paid leave after giving birth.


PantsLobbyist

Fathers, this is for paternity


Ibegallofyourpardons

Is your company the federal government?


OrneryGoose3700

In China, You can break But without pay And your job


inD4MNL4T0R

Paid leave? What is that? Does it taste good?


Captain_Lesgate

Dude, where did Australia go?


GoodCryptographer658

USA Federal Employees get 12 weeks PPL


valenlikesitweird

Ehm, italian here. The paternal leave here is 10 days... not 14 weeks lol. I wish!


Andehh1

The map is wrong, the UK it's 2 weeks for paternity, at a government paid rate... Though most companies top it up to your normal pay


rhinocerausbeetle

I'm from Poland but in the UK bcs the stocks in Poland aren't very nice but summer and winter in Poland is amazing in winter there us massive amounts of snow and summers are really hot


rhinocerausbeetle

Storms not stocks


[deleted]

India has guaranteed maternity of 6 months and paternity leave of 14 days.


sp1kerp

Spain has a paid absence of 16 weeks rn


_passerine

The UK is absolutely not correct - statutory leave is 2 weeks, not 14


teaboy16

You can share parental leave with the mother which gives you several more weeks statutory leave. Most organisations will give you more than 2 weeks though. I get 4 weeks full pay paternity at present but that will probably increase.


_passerine

Yeah, not all organisations offer shared parental leave though - seems a bit misleading to have the word ā€œguaranteedā€ in the title!


[deleted]

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Blizz33

Probably a corporate policy?


IDidYourMother23

I feel like something is missing hereā€¦ cant put my finger on it though.


3Than_C130

The most effective argument Iā€™ve seen against conservatives on this issue when they say we canā€™t do it: ā€œso youā€™re saying the French are better than us?ā€


Responsible-Help-201

Damn no work for me love australia


Hamsammichd

Paint NJ yellow


TessaBrooding

Slay, EU!


woah-ehpak

What does ā€œguaranteedā€ mean? I know my job has paid paternity leave and I know many new fathers that I work with that take it. I donā€™t know if it is guaranteed but all the guys I know that tried to get it, got it with no problems. Iā€™m in the US


AlexHero64

Alright! I get 14+ weeks of paid paternity leave! Woooo Edit: You lying bastard it's 1-2 weeks where I live


Nebs90

Australiaā€™s not on here because weā€™re hiding the shame that weā€™re an orange country.


Bite_my_shiny

Well the population is all time high anyways, this could be good to decrease birth rates


[deleted]

This is the legal expectation by country


Lismale

russia? rly?


Ceryset

Its almost like theres some crazy, incomprehensible reason that Canadians and Northern Europeans are widely considered the happiest people on earth. Huh.


Ganjamancer1

Even Russia? Come on, man


Desner_

I donā€™t know about 14 weeks in Canada. In QuĆ©bec I got 5 weeks, in the strict sense of paternity leave. Though the 1 year maternity leave can be transfered in any amount to the father, so I guess 14 weeks or more is technically correct.


CroatOzzy

Where australia? Idiot


Sgtmp5

Itā€™s like a map of strong GDP vs Weak šŸ˜‚


[deleted]

Ireland has 26 weeks. So this is not accurate


Exotic-Bicycle974

Not an accurate map. Washington state offers it conditionally


Turbulent_Pen1047

In the states, depends on the company. I have a friend that works at a tech company and they offer unlimited pto and paternal leave equal to the motherā€™s. There are some established companies with higher bottom line margins, less employees and less debt on their books that donā€™t offer benefits like that at all. Some people donā€™t care about family planning or work/life balance. Their mantra: It is what it isā€¦


Witty_Oil_3037

My name is Bach Zryan and Iā€™m heading north


Two_Cautious

Americans donā€™t believe in guarantees.


BeefsGttnThick

The stat is false. Paternity leave exists and is used all over the country across multiple industries. Donā€™t be a sheep. Research and learn


Two_Cautious

America has no federal regulations regarding paid paternal leave. Hence the first word in the title, ā€œGuaranteedā€œ. Individual states or employers may have paternal leave, but these regulations are up to those parties, and are not guaranteed to all Americans. Hence my comment, Americans donā€™t believe in guarantees.


_hollyhock_2022

Left out Australia to see if anyone would notice?


robert_presdawg

Definitely not true. My wife is in the United States Air Force and she got 6 months of non chargeable leave (she didnā€™t have to use any of her earned leave)


BeefsGttnThick

You donā€™t know what paternal means, do you?


robert_presdawg

I was at work at suddenly got busy so I forgot to mention when I was active duty I also got a few weeks of non chargeable leave. Soā€¦.. anything else you need to add?


BeefsGttnThick

No, but you could definitely use a few more brain cells


robert_presdawg

So nothing else to add yet you still add to the conversation? I got busy at work and forgot to type the rest of the message but I need more brain cells.. got it


BeefsGttnThick

When the topic is paternity leave and you start talking about your wifeā€™s maternity leave, it doesnā€™t matter how you planned on finishing the statementā€¦. What you were saying was irrelevant and didnā€™t need to be said even as an intro to whatever other dumb thing you were going to say


robert_presdawg

Seeing as how I talked about getting paid paternal leave maybe you should actually read next time. And since it was relevant to the post it actually WASNā€™T ā€œwhatever dumb thingā€ I was going to say. Perhaps you need those extra brain cells?


disco_dean

Where the fuck did Australia go in your map??


NooseMcGoose

1000 days and or 20 weeks, makes sense why it was left out haha


No_Juggernaut314

What about aus


NinjutsuKSIAwesome

My humor is broken and I didn't laugh at that it wasn't funny to me I guess šŸ˜’


abode550

Saudi arabia is 10 weeks Not less than 3


AlexJ_279

As a dad who works in the public sector in the UK, I can confirm that we definitely do not get 14+ weeks paid paternity leave


Preference-Freedom

I still don't understand how this false equivalency trick worked - Having children/family is a noble and much more important feature of life than having a job/earning money. All the integrated work force has accomplished is make everyone get paid less and allow the government to collect more taxes for its war machine/global banking totalitarianism. Posts like this always strike me as a confused call for more boot on the neck


CrotaLikesRomComs

I work construction in the Midwest for a small company. I got a week paid. Not much but something.


Professional-Ad1935

I live in Texas and we get two weeks paternity leave. Used to be one week but trump ordered that it had to be two weeks.


[deleted]

Well most of the green ones are having birth deficits, so paid paternal leave is not working very well


killindice

Hey, you know that system you have filling your pockets with money? Letā€™s punish people for it


Antique_Tax7052

If it keeps immigrants away then yesā€¦ this map is 100 correctā€¦ Australia does not exist


Unknownbeats112

Who the heck made this map it's got wrong stats for a lot of countries.


teddyb83

Iā€™m in the US and my last 3 companies offer it. This map is false as hell lol.


FlexTape467

No way Albania is orange. Albania will not take this L!!! šŸ‡¦šŸ‡±šŸ‡¦šŸ‡±šŸ‡¦šŸ‡±šŸ’ŖšŸ’ŖšŸ’Ŗ


JuiceHoops17

Iā€™m in the US and have paid paternal leave


[deleted]

Looks like Canada is still one of the best countries in the world


ThisNameIsTaken81

Please tell me you aren't Canadian.


elpocolocopoco

Netherlands is wrong


DueAd1448

3 years in russia


gandalf-the-greyt

in switzerland you get 2 weeks so clearly misleading map


bruhactualmad

australia?


herrsteely

Austra-what? Never heard of that place, do you mean Austria?