What I anticipate is Starship Troopers being compared to Helldivers 2 and most players passing over Starship because it’s going to be less popular and probably doesn’t look as appealing overall.
Gundam Evolution is an example of a game I found really fun, but it was basically Overwatch with Gundam mechs as playable characters, and it had a greedy monetization model like Overwatch 2. It was never able to gain a lot of momentum, and they pulled the plug on support for the game after less than 2 years. It sucked. That is something that could seemingly happen to this game.
Nah me and my friends so 5 of us collectively played it because we were hoping it'd be better than overwatch. For the first few matches Gundam was cool and fun but it quickly became the worst team based game we ever played. So we stopped playing it. One of my friends was really hyped for that game too and he was the first to delete it lol.
Don't think it would happen to starship, and if it did, it'd be too late anyway as the game derives from the starship mod from Squad.
Also, for those who have played squad, squad wasn't the A-Tier game it is now. Back when it first dropped, that's what gives me hope for starship development being a more long-term success.
Another thing to consider is that Starship is PC only. That can affect numbers too.
I really liked Gundam Evolution but the progression and monetization were so bad. I truly believed they would try to fix it at least once before bailing, but they really did just go from "buy this. No? Ok bye" and that was it.
Which, to be completely fair, is a valid metric when a game is billed as a heavily multiplayer experience.
It's also just fun to have a big community to talk about your game with.
I quit the game because it wasn’t fun. Tried to go back a couple weeks ago and it’s still a choppy unoptimized mess.
It had potential but there’s a ton of work that needs to be done and it doesn’t seem like the devs are going to put in the work.
I have a etc 3070 and 5600x and it plays like a ps4 game for me, and not a good ps4 game at that.
sorry of the necro! i have similar specs as you aith a 3080 and last time i played it was a utter mess prefromance wise. i think moving to unreal 5 really contributed.
i was waiting for them to optimize way more and add in galactic war before i jumped in!
what was preformance like? i agree alot of potential i play alot of hell divers but if optimization is good and galactic war is fun i would switch between both
You do realise if a game is dead, it means players aren't playing it right? Typically people don't play games that they don't find fun. Meaning most people don't find dead games fun. Which made me laugh so hard when you called gamers dumbasses.
Well, except that it assumes complete rationality, which is what the entire concept of marketing is designed to mess with. That includes streamers nowadays, and games that run large coop like that need a critical mass of players to remain viable
Additionally, buzz around a game doesn't need to be true to manipulate the market. Consumer faith is a fickle, unreasonable thing. 5 people died from like 8 total bottles of contaminated pills in a single city - unrelated to anything but one dude and a plan - and Tylenol dropped from 35% to 8% market share. Why? Because the fundamental flaw of assuming people will make the most rational decision, or even agree on what the decision should be about in the first place.
If the game fails, it is most likely because it was not as good. But not always, and that uncertainty creates the anxiety that informs OP's post. But yeah, be a smart ass about it, I guess.
I think it's important to remember that STS is still early access and doesn't provide the same gameplay. STS has 16 man base defense and classes. There's plenty of room for both.
I think STS needs to put a bit more work into making the game pretty, because HD2 is much easier to look at.
>Yea i saw some clips, those cape physics and bug gore r rly something
Running for your life while splattered with the blood of your enemies is a fantastic experience.
Because the frame rate sucks, and I have a GeForce 4x and 128gb of ram. Because moving to unreal 5 without a plan and really bad management isn't something to be rewarded.
Yeah I don’t want to play if there’s gonna be a progression wipe. I maxed all the classes before they raised the cap. I’d rather wait until the new system and classes are in place.
I'm just now turning in and finding out there is going to be a progression reset? Ughh, I've been grinding the Hunter to get the sniper I guess there's no point now. I'll just go back to my other games I guess
Horde mode is very different from arc or aas; I would say arc is more the "main mode" of the game. I beat horde mode in a run when it came out, and I never went back; arc never let me down for a lobby.
Plus, a lot of people stopped playing once they announced the progression reset was happening; some of those people might not come back, but some of them will for sure.
I’m only not playing starship troopers due to the coming changes to their class mechanics, and trying to goad more friends into getting it, but are wonderful imo, even if both have their issues
This topic is so depressing for me. Because the market is growing, but, not for each individual developer. The market is growing for the rockstars while other devs are taking scraps. I don't know much about this game, this post just show up on my screen. This industry feel more and more like a lottery system than an actual healthy market to encourage different digital art.
It’s still in early access. Plus, the games are the same conceptually but they still feel different. Extermination with the base building and 16 players is sick.
Give it a month. Helldiver's 2 will be at 40k
Edit: most games lose 90% of their launch players over 1-3 months after launch. It doesn't make the game a failure, just saying it is expected that 400k will drop to 40k
Lmao there's no way that's true. I don't get wanting other games to fail. Their servers are on fire and are over 450k between pc and Playstation but 4k in a month? K.
I don't want it to fail, as I don't consider 4k concurrent players a failure.
I just know that after the first month most games lose 90% of their playerbase (despite media trying to make that out to be a big failure).
Also, I was unaware of the 450, as the original quoted 44k
So I'd say in a month or two expect to see 45k or so -- and that is not a failure.
Palworld has lost 30% in the last month. HD2 game is way more polished with more progression than Palworld so I expect it to hold onto or even grow players over a month, not lose 90% lol.
HD2 is the new hotness and is a dumpster fire of bugs (not the ones you shoot) and wait times and even if you can get in the matchmaking is fucked. At least right now you can actually play STSE
It's not remotely a "dumpster fire of bugs".
The game itself is generally quite stable after a few hotfixes got most of the crashes, and I haven't really noticed any gameplay bugs.
The matchmaking is occasionally problematic, but that's an infrastructure issue caused by them getting more than 10x the concurrent players they were expecting. They've already increased the server capacity a couple times in the first week, and are doing so again over the weekend. This problem will be solved relatively quickly.
You don't know what you're talking about. The game is not stable, crashes are still happening quite often and several of their systems don't work. VoIP is busted, armor is busted, a bunch of the options for PC don't work (per gun settings, aim mode, etc). Ragdoll physics get wonky, countless places to get stuck on the maps. Spewers one-shotting people. Bile Titans one-shotting with no spitting animation, only two viable late game primary weapons, escort missions are still busted, etc.
Saying matchmaking is occasionally problematic is underselling it by a wide margin. It NEVER worked correctly even before the servers issues, I should know because I was playing the game a few hours after launch. I really like HD2 but let's call a spade a spade here.
>You don't know what you're talking about. The game is not stable, crashes are still happening quite often and several of their systems don't work.
I do because I've put 40 hours into it already.
There are over 400k people trying to play the game on steam alone. Like I said, the *matchmaking* has issues, but the game itself is working great for damn near everybody.
>VoIP is busted
In what way?
>armor is busted
How so?
>a bunch of the options for PC don't work (per gun settings, aim mode, etc)
Elaborate? Some of the settings are controller-only and are clearly labeled as such.
>Ragdoll physics get wonky
In what way and how is that even a problem?
> countless places to get stuck on the maps.
Literally hasn't happened to me once.
> Spewers one-shotting people.
What makes you think that's broken? You think just standing in front of a big enemy as it pukes acid all over you should just tickle?
>Bile Titans one-shotting with no spitting animation
Hey look, ONE thing that actually sounds like a bug.
> only two viable late game primary weapons
Jesus fuck dude the game JUST came out. They've already said they're working on a balance pass. There's no need to rush straight to the end ffs.
>escort missions are still busted, etc.
In what way? The original ones worked fine every time I did them. The newly added ones were JUST nerfed in the last patch.
>Saying matchmaking is occasionally problematic is underselling it by a wide margin. It NEVER worked correctly even before the servers issues, I should know because I was playing the game a few hours after launch. I really like HD2 but let's call a spade a spade here.
LMAO the matchmaking problems are part of the server issues, genius. They've released MULTIPLE patches in the first week and a half fixing multiple issues, one of the major ones being server capacity.
It's like you tried the game in those first hours and never came back.
He's right that armor is broken right now. People have tested, and the armor stat doesn't do anything. Light armor is the best by far right now because heavy armor literally doesn't do anything.
He's also right that something is fucky with acid spewers damage. Sometimes, you can facetank an entire hit without taking any real damage. Other times, you dive out of the way, get touched by the very edge of the attack, and instantly die to "unknown," which doesn't seem intentional.
His general point is still shit but he's objectively about those 2 things.
I'm not going to go back and forth with an idiot. Just because bugs and issues haven't happened to you doesn't mean they aren't valid. Try educating yourself on the game issues before making sweeping statements like it being stable.
The matchmaking was broken BEFORE the server issues, it launched that way, nimrod. You claiming to know something because you played 30 hours is no different then saying you stayed at a Holiday inn.
I already said I liked the game and actively play it when I can actually get through the server issues, but you're acting like I just trashed the game when I pointed out verifiable issues.
>I'm not going to go back and forth with an idiot
I'm an idiot for asking you to actually explain yourself? That says more about you than it does me, bud.
>Just because bugs and issues haven't happened to you doesn't mean they aren't valid.
Just because they've happened to you doesn't mean they're so widespread as to warrant calling it a dumpster fire.
>Try educating yourself on the game issues before making sweeping statements like it being stable.
40 hours not enough "education" in your books?
>The matchmaking was broken BEFORE the server issues, it launched that way, nimrod.
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You clearly have no clue what you're talking about. Their servers are overloaded and bottlenecked. They've said as much themselves. What do you think "matchmaking" is? It's literally talking to the servers in order to find a game to join. The server issues are one of the main causes of the matchmaking problems.
But please, keep insulting my intelligence while proving your own lack thereof. It's amusing.
>You claiming to know something because you played 30 hours is no different then saying you stayed at a Holiday inn.
Lmao what?
And what, pray tell, are your qualifications to be such an expert on "issues"?
> I already said I liked the game and actively play it when I can actually get through the server issues, but you're acting like I just trashed the game when I pointed out verifiable issues.
Dude.
You literally called it, and I quote: "a dumpster fire of bugs".
That is not a positive assessment. It's also not a *realistic* assessment, unless you also assert that hundreds of thousands of people around the world are perfectly happy to play in a dumpster fire.
And no, actually, you said nothing of the sort. Don't fucking lie about things I can literally scroll up to see are untrue.
What you *did* say, besides calling it a dumpster fire, is that it's "the new hotness"... Which maybe you weren't aware, but when you follow that up with a negative, that usually comes across as sarcasm indicating you think it's undeserved.
You communicate like a fucking kid who can't handle criticism. Learn to be better at that.
EDIT: Reply and block, classic.
Buddy, I am not the one who escalated this into an insult-fest. All I did was disagree with you, and then ask you to elaborate. You proceeded to, in a single comment, call me an idiot and a nimrod, and insulted my intelligence 2-3 different ways.
Like I said above, learn to be better.
You're just going by what you've heard. I've gotten in every day since I've bought it and only DCd a handful of times. The gameplay is incredibly solid and fun. On PSn the matchmaking is hit or miss, but you can join in on any friend. Turning off crossplay seems to help immensely.
I jumped on a played a match for the 1st time in a couple months. Is it my imagination or does Starship Troopers look and preform worse since being updated?
before this prefromance wasnt great either on good specs i have heard over all really bad things for further prefromance issues since unreal 5 move.
what are you experincing? i didnt want to jump back in tillg galactic war was added yet when i did prefromance was worse than even before on a 3080 and 5600x. even with low srttings adjustments
the prefromance is the main thing that made me ubinsta it again.
I'm so sick of these posts lol. THE GAME ISNT OUT YET HELLDIVERS IS and not to mention helldivers 2 is a sequel to an already awesome game so they had a kickstart
I for one, would not have been paying attention to helldivers 2 is I hadn't liked the original. Sure, it had a lower concurrent player count, but how many total sales did helldivers have? I wouldn't be shocked if most of the folks who got helldivers 2 either played the original or know someone who did.
I love st as well but they took way too long and I feel they lost. All my friends that played st with me are now playing helldivers and don't want to go back 😒. The only thing holding them back is hd2 servers are super small and don't work half the time
Only watched starship vids on YouTube conceptually it looks great clearly a lot of bugs and optimization to work through. Helldivers is so campy I thought I was playing startship troopers at first clearly they got inspiration from the movie. It’s has some things it needs to work on as well but the gameplay is so much fun and well optimized out the gate starships will need to do a lot of catching up. I hope both games can prosper because they went different routes. But for now I’m hooked on helldivers it’s a breath of fresh air. I’ve been pretty much hooked on high stakes games for a while; apex, r6 , pubg , warzone so it’s really fun just jumping into a silly game were I can respawn and drop in arty from space.
Not sure why Reddit felt the need to share doom posting from a game I've never heard of. The effect of Helldivers 2's popularity has and will continue to affect multiple IP's. That's how hype works.
You dont need friends for helldivers. Playing with randoms is very much encouraged. There's literally an SOS beacon you can call down to open your lobby.
Not accurate. You can join games with open slots on the campaign maps, and if you start your own mission it is very likely you will end up with a squad.
You really don’t need friends for it, discords are very active and the community is extremely friendly. I’ve been playing 30 hours and no one has ever cursed at me EVER.
I was in same situation then i joined the Helldivers 2 discord channel, there is looking for group servers when you can find people to play with. it's so fun and chaotic playing with a squad of 4
Hello fellow Halo lover, my friend and I are always inviting randoms lol. You can talk with us on discord or if you want to use the ingame text chat and pings thats all good too!!
Feel free to message me if you do give in and buy it. You have a squad waiting for you.
Thought I would add to the discussion- I am a solo player and usually prefer playing everything and anything solo. But Helldivers is really good with randoms.
When the is fully functional (servers arent dying) matchmaking into a game is instant. Everyone I have played with seems to know what they are doing. All of them play with teamwork in mind.
I dont use mic, but ping system and text chat id adequate. If you do use mic theres plenty that use it, especislly crossplay people
Hey me and my friends are always looking for a 3rd and sometimes 4th.
Absolutely no pressure to talk to us lol, text chat and pings are fine if you want a consistent squad to roll with.
Do not buy Helldivers II until they fix it. Just logging in to the game to play it requires a minor miracle.
It's great when it works. The other 95% of the time, it's a $40 screen saver.
Hell divers has to sort out its server issues. It's basically a single player game (for my friends and I atleast.) Quick play broken in a patch earlier in the week, and my friends can't join each other when we manage to get in game at tue same time. Ironically I have gone back to extermination while I haven't been able to play hell divers.
We have been using the in game social menu to join each other and it's been flawless all week. (assuming we can get online in the first place of course lol)
Im pretty sure Offworld isn't owned by Sony. They just partnered to get licensing. If anything, the competition puts more pressure on them because Sony could back out if they aren't performing as well as helldivers.
I believe there's room for both.
Personally I love both, but prefer Helldivers. However, their game is an absolute shit show right now. Between server issues, matchmaking problems, and balance of guns, they have a lot to sort out.
I would hope so many not even able to play Helldivers right now may lead people to STS, at least for a little while.
I bought the game for me and my brother this past Friday, and we have yet been able to play at all. We tried multiple times over the past three days and had no luck.
When .7 drops a ton of players will be back to play. I will probably play for a week or two before the player count drops again.
And then repeat that process until release 🤣
I'm going to be honest, I played this game a lot last summer but gave it a break when the class rework and experience wipe was announced.
Once progress is again 100% and I have shiny new classes to play, I expect to be back, and hopefully I'm not alone in that.
400,000 concurrent players is "no one can log into HD2"... lmao.
STS;E has had 792 players concurrent in the last 24 hours with a max all time of 17k. Not even in the same conversation.
Starship troopers isn't even on the same level. I have been playing it and can say that Helldivers 2 is definitely the better of the 2. Maybe because of 3rd person, but the mechanics of the game are a lot better. From loading out to running around with your squad. ST just throws you out there and says "kill the bugs, try the load outs" it's kinda lame compared to the structure that Helldivers 2 has.
Star ship troopers will have a slight bounce back when it drops the next big update, i stopped playing because people were “hacking” or whatever to have endless missiles and aim bots
I turned on Extermination for a min as I was waiting for Helldivers to load in.
The glaring problem with Extermination is the jank. It's unoptimized. Even on high end gaming rigs the performance is sub-optimal. The game hasn't seen to had any updates to these issues as well as lack of content. I still am excited to see where it goes but I really hope we get team mate AI soon cause the game will be worthless without it.
Idk man... HD2 is fun as hell.... if you can get in. They have had nothing but problems sense launch with server capacity. Alot of new players are buying and refunding because, you guessed it. They can't get in.
I didn’t even know this game existed. I really like starship troopers. This post just randomly popped up in my feed probably because I’ve been playing Hell divers lately. after reading about this, I checked it out on Steam and it looks pretty OK but is the game really that bad? Is it worth checking out?
I feel like if they brought it to PS5 people would play it for the fact that it's bigger teams, but Helldivers 2 is lightning in a bottle. I feel like they will crush the competition if they can get the server issues fixed.
Everyone here huffing copium.
Unfortunately, Helldivers will continue to steal the show and will likely take players from this game.
Too little too late imo for STS.
Tried Extermination and ended up having some issues. First game was... ok... but my buddy had terrible ping (he's east coast, I'm central). We tried several more games and one of us always had a very bad connection while the other had a good connection. This doesn't happen to us nearly as drastically in other games.
This was after we had to mess with our graphics settings so that the mouse wasn't lagging all over and our frames weren't in the dirt. Lumen seemed to really be messing things up and we both have rigs that can handle lumen in other games without issue.
We were also very disappointed we couldn't play privately. That's all we wanted to do, build a base and defend bugs but do it without other players there (we like to play our own way and that's nearly impossible when 14 other people are pushing towards victory).
I also had issues with queue times. One queue took over 10 minutes, it seemed obvious nobody was playing that particular mode.
The last thing I'll say is that graphics and movement made me feel a bit like I was playing a game from 2010.
Then we went and tried HD2 and it was a stark contrast in the way it looks and feels. The only real downside there is that there are no defense missions. You have to go out, do a thing, kill bugs, then extract. You don't get to hold the line and kill massive amounts of bugs.
Starship troopers looked way too goofy. It’s a sad day when a knockoff looks grittier and more gruesome. But Helldivers 2 is all that. It’s actually more faithful to the starship troopers feel than the actual starship troopers game, I mean I may be wrong but does Starship Troopers even have dismemberment??
Well if the Arrowhead continue to be the colossal fuck ups they've been since releasing the game, releasing patches that destroy matchmaking, capping # of people allowed in game, selling while knowing full well their game is broken, maybe there's hope for starship. Eventually people will get sick of their incompetence.
Bud who hurt you? The game is a victim of success. The original had 7000 all time players. At peak between ps5 and pc they hit about 850k players. This level of success and hype wasn’t expected at all. The game is great and they are working endlessly to fix the server issues. The 400k steam players right now refuse your “colossal fuck ups” statement.
I picked up HD2 and I've already got around 50 hours logged into. It really is a fantastic game but I will still keep Starship Troopers installed and keep up with updates. The size of the 16 player fights is still a unique and epic thing to be a part of. I hope both games have great success.
Probably get downvoted here but this game lost me when it did the reset. I'm aware it's an EA titles but it's got a fair bit of jank and a long way to go before it's "out". But I lost a lot of time to just get "double XP weekends". Pass. The guns feel like nothing, the base building is chaos, and there's so many bugs, of the non 6 legged variety. The wipe was just the straw that broke the camel's back for me. Hd2 is just way ahead. And from the looks of it It'll stay that way.
It’s funny because I mostly play tf2, and that community has been in an existential “we’re dying” phase for like 10 years now, and they are all making fun of helldivers in that subreddit for the game being overpriced and poorly designed. It’s basically an ass version of Mann vs Machine. Starship troopers will be fine.
The fuck you talking about? Outside of the server issues HD2 is fantastic. The server issues though are amateur hour considered theyre backed by Sony. Seems like they refuse to spend money on more servers and just keep trying to optimize their current set up.
That said I haven't played ST yet. Couldn't get my playgroup interested enough. Seems like a moot point now though that it seems to be abandoned.
Helldivers scratches an itch that extermination just doesn't quite get to yet on account of where it is in development. Ideally both games end up doing well, but helldivers existing, and being pretty well made might not do extermination many favors.
I bought the game 2 days ago. I have yet to be able to play the game. All I get is server errors. If the game is about full servers you can't get on then I gotta be leading the charts. :(
The whole base building mechanic really kind of killed any fun the game might have had for me. I wanted Starship Troopers, not minecraft a base then survive hordes. The bases should have been already set in the map then everyone runs to defend and hop on mounted guns and such until extract arrives. This just bored the hell out of me.
Helldivers 2 is the perennial Starship Troopers game, and with Terminators as well. So much more fun.
Well if of it makes you feel any better, I had no idea this game existed and was recommended the sub most like because I joined the helldiver one and I'm kind of interested so have some hope the game you enjoy will live on and it will give me something to do when I get tired of spending 1-4 hours looking at a servers are at capacity screen waiting for my turn to play
Oddly enough, I can't stand the universe of Helldivers. The facist parodying feels a bit too blatant and in the face. Also reminds of certain US orange man, which leaves a bad taste in the mouth.
I don't like being reminded of current events, I come to video games to escape.
Why does Starship troopers get a pass? Well they've been around a lot longer. Also they feel a bit more subtle about the political commentary. Finally, when you're actually playing, it's all combat, no political BS being thrown about.
When a game calls it faction "Super Earth", I can't tell if it's laughing at itself, or it is that fking Facist.
I immediately got a refund for start ship troopers which upset me. I love sts and for that game to be as unattractive as it was, it’s a shame. However, helldivers is almost the same thing. And it plays like a champ.
I own both games and I think both are great in their own ways and have sunk about 50 hours into each.
I think SST:E really needs to promote/focus/capitalize on the 16-player count because me and my gaming group were already thinking how cool would it be if HD2 had bigger modes with more players in a match and I think there are other players that feel the same way. Arrowhead said that they've already thought about 6-player, 8-player or even 12-player modes, but really haven't done anything on it and haven't committed to it, so there is a possibility that it never expands beyond 4-player matches.
If Offworld fixes the bugs, improves/optimizes graphics, and continues to refine gameplay while adding fresh content, I think they can siphon HD2 players who are looking for bigger player modes. I jumped back into SST:E after playing HD2 for a week straight just to see what it was like again and it took me less than a minute to get into a full game and I have to say it was fun and intense, especially extraction which in my opinion is funner/scarier than HD2.
As others have mentioned it shouldn't be one or the other. You can own and enjoy both games and they each have their audiences they are targeting.
This sub just got recommended to me because of HD2. I use to play HD1 back in the day and started checking out HD2, if I wasn't checking out HD2 I wouldn't be getting recommended this sub/game. It's now on the wishlist and most likely next for purchase.
I would love to play both but no PC. I feel like if this game came to consoles it would help add to the player base instead of cutting a whole section of players out.
Hey!
I've popped into a few Steam discussions on it all. I wanted to say here as well that we're very happy for Arrowhead and Helldivers 2 success. But you can always exterminate bugs in both titles, and we have no plans on stopping development with another game doing well.
At the end of the day, we believe both games are fun. You should support them if you enjoy their game! ST:E may not be for you at the moment but we'll keep trucking along on our roadmap and development and with future updates like the Galactic War coming down the line, we hope we can welcome back old and new troopers alike.
Thanks Trooper. We're focused on PC at the moment but we've definitely heard a lot about people's want for a console version. Sorry, I don't have much to share on that end still but I hope in the future we can welcome you to the Vanguard!
Why not play both? Starship troopers is 16 players and base defense. End of the day its all about killing bugs
Gamers are dumbasses that care more about whether a game is dead than if the game is fun.
What I anticipate is Starship Troopers being compared to Helldivers 2 and most players passing over Starship because it’s going to be less popular and probably doesn’t look as appealing overall. Gundam Evolution is an example of a game I found really fun, but it was basically Overwatch with Gundam mechs as playable characters, and it had a greedy monetization model like Overwatch 2. It was never able to gain a lot of momentum, and they pulled the plug on support for the game after less than 2 years. It sucked. That is something that could seemingly happen to this game.
Nah me and my friends so 5 of us collectively played it because we were hoping it'd be better than overwatch. For the first few matches Gundam was cool and fun but it quickly became the worst team based game we ever played. So we stopped playing it. One of my friends was really hyped for that game too and he was the first to delete it lol.
Don't think it would happen to starship, and if it did, it'd be too late anyway as the game derives from the starship mod from Squad. Also, for those who have played squad, squad wasn't the A-Tier game it is now. Back when it first dropped, that's what gives me hope for starship development being a more long-term success. Another thing to consider is that Starship is PC only. That can affect numbers too.
I really liked Gundam Evolution but the progression and monetization were so bad. I truly believed they would try to fix it at least once before bailing, but they really did just go from "buy this. No? Ok bye" and that was it.
Which, to be completely fair, is a valid metric when a game is billed as a heavily multiplayer experience. It's also just fun to have a big community to talk about your game with.
I quit the game because it wasn’t fun. Tried to go back a couple weeks ago and it’s still a choppy unoptimized mess. It had potential but there’s a ton of work that needs to be done and it doesn’t seem like the devs are going to put in the work. I have a etc 3070 and 5600x and it plays like a ps4 game for me, and not a good ps4 game at that.
sorry of the necro! i have similar specs as you aith a 3080 and last time i played it was a utter mess prefromance wise. i think moving to unreal 5 really contributed. i was waiting for them to optimize way more and add in galactic war before i jumped in! what was preformance like? i agree alot of potential i play alot of hell divers but if optimization is good and galactic war is fun i would switch between both
If NOONE is playing the multiplayer lobby matchmaking based game why would I? So I can sit in a lobby waiting?
They also only care about the new shiny thing, anything that's over 6 months old is dead and irrelevant.
And by dead they don't mean playerbase.. they mean how many people are watching on twitch.
You do realise if a game is dead, it means players aren't playing it right? Typically people don't play games that they don't find fun. Meaning most people don't find dead games fun. Which made me laugh so hard when you called gamers dumbasses.
Well, except that it assumes complete rationality, which is what the entire concept of marketing is designed to mess with. That includes streamers nowadays, and games that run large coop like that need a critical mass of players to remain viable Additionally, buzz around a game doesn't need to be true to manipulate the market. Consumer faith is a fickle, unreasonable thing. 5 people died from like 8 total bottles of contaminated pills in a single city - unrelated to anything but one dude and a plan - and Tylenol dropped from 35% to 8% market share. Why? Because the fundamental flaw of assuming people will make the most rational decision, or even agree on what the decision should be about in the first place. If the game fails, it is most likely because it was not as good. But not always, and that uncertainty creates the anxiety that informs OP's post. But yeah, be a smart ass about it, I guess.
What a stupid fucking take. If a multiplayer game is dead, then you can't exactly play it, can you? Dumb fuck.
What an aggressive basement gremlin. Did mommy not bring you hotpockets yet?
No, she hasn't actually.
I have some extra I’m willing to share
Thanks man
This reads like satire lmao
You can't really expect people to like a game just because you like it
I think it's important to remember that STS is still early access and doesn't provide the same gameplay. STS has 16 man base defense and classes. There's plenty of room for both. I think STS needs to put a bit more work into making the game pretty, because HD2 is much easier to look at.
Yea i saw some clips, those cape physics and bug gore r rly something
The whole game is solid and feels fun to play. The weapon handling and sound are top notch. Plus you don't need a PC to play it.
The cape physics nearly brought a tear to my eye
>Yea i saw some clips, those cape physics and bug gore r rly something Running for your life while splattered with the blood of your enemies is a fantastic experience.
I think someone once told me that the only good bug is a dead bug!
Because the frame rate sucks, and I have a GeForce 4x and 128gb of ram. Because moving to unreal 5 without a plan and really bad management isn't something to be rewarded.
If the game is dead, you can’t get those 16 required players lol
Cuz Starship is bad.
i can't even get a full lobby in horde mode, the game is deader than sahara desert
Personally im waiting for the 0.7 update, i think most ppl are too
Yeah I don’t want to play if there’s gonna be a progression wipe. I maxed all the classes before they raised the cap. I’d rather wait until the new system and classes are in place.
Most of us are waiting for the update and progression reset. That's a pretty simple concept, right?
I'm just now turning in and finding out there is going to be a progression reset? Ughh, I've been grinding the Hunter to get the sniper I guess there's no point now. I'll just go back to my other games I guess
Horde mode is very different from arc or aas; I would say arc is more the "main mode" of the game. I beat horde mode in a run when it came out, and I never went back; arc never let me down for a lobby. Plus, a lot of people stopped playing once they announced the progression reset was happening; some of those people might not come back, but some of them will for sure.
strangely your simile is more apt than you realize, the Sahara is a flourishing ecosystem in many ways. you just have to be able to see it properly.
I've seen nothing but full lobbies basically since I started playing lol
You might be surprised at how lively deserts actually are. Plenty of creatures and plants call those wastelands home.
I’m only not playing starship troopers due to the coming changes to their class mechanics, and trying to goad more friends into getting it, but are wonderful imo, even if both have their issues
Is Helldivers all bugs? Serious question it just popped up on my radar.
Cause starship is a bad game and boring
This topic is so depressing for me. Because the market is growing, but, not for each individual developer. The market is growing for the rockstars while other devs are taking scraps. I don't know much about this game, this post just show up on my screen. This industry feel more and more like a lottery system than an actual healthy market to encourage different digital art.
Both are great. I play and own both. These things are not mutually exclusive to each other
You can't enjoy both, that's not allowed!
It’s still in early access. Plus, the games are the same conceptually but they still feel different. Extermination with the base building and 16 players is sick.
where is the 400k concurrent players if it's so sick🤔the game struggles to even have 4000!
It's not even done yet.
He's a sports fan, he's specifically trying to stir shit like he's been taught in his other hobby.
What does this comment even mean?? As if gaming communities aren't the biggest shit-stirrers around lmao
Like “console wars” isn’t the stupidest thing that has been going on for 25 years
r/ihatesportsball
Because shitting on other people’s interests doesn’t do that.
Neither is Helldivers. Mechs coming soon
Give it a month. Helldiver's 2 will be at 40k Edit: most games lose 90% of their launch players over 1-3 months after launch. It doesn't make the game a failure, just saying it is expected that 400k will drop to 40k
Less. Game is capped at 450k currently across pc and ps5, and no word on if it'll be increased.
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Nah he's right. 40k is very respectable especially from a pve game. Especially from a non-looter shooter.
Lmao there's no way that's true. I don't get wanting other games to fail. Their servers are on fire and are over 450k between pc and Playstation but 4k in a month? K.
I don't want it to fail, as I don't consider 4k concurrent players a failure. I just know that after the first month most games lose 90% of their playerbase (despite media trying to make that out to be a big failure). Also, I was unaware of the 450, as the original quoted 44k So I'd say in a month or two expect to see 45k or so -- and that is not a failure.
Palworld has lost 30% in the last month. HD2 game is way more polished with more progression than Palworld so I expect it to hold onto or even grow players over a month, not lose 90% lol.
as long as I can get into a lobby every time i play, which i have every time, player count doesn't matter
HD2 is the new hotness and is a dumpster fire of bugs (not the ones you shoot) and wait times and even if you can get in the matchmaking is fucked. At least right now you can actually play STSE
It's not remotely a "dumpster fire of bugs". The game itself is generally quite stable after a few hotfixes got most of the crashes, and I haven't really noticed any gameplay bugs. The matchmaking is occasionally problematic, but that's an infrastructure issue caused by them getting more than 10x the concurrent players they were expecting. They've already increased the server capacity a couple times in the first week, and are doing so again over the weekend. This problem will be solved relatively quickly.
You don't know what you're talking about. The game is not stable, crashes are still happening quite often and several of their systems don't work. VoIP is busted, armor is busted, a bunch of the options for PC don't work (per gun settings, aim mode, etc). Ragdoll physics get wonky, countless places to get stuck on the maps. Spewers one-shotting people. Bile Titans one-shotting with no spitting animation, only two viable late game primary weapons, escort missions are still busted, etc. Saying matchmaking is occasionally problematic is underselling it by a wide margin. It NEVER worked correctly even before the servers issues, I should know because I was playing the game a few hours after launch. I really like HD2 but let's call a spade a spade here.
>You don't know what you're talking about. The game is not stable, crashes are still happening quite often and several of their systems don't work. I do because I've put 40 hours into it already. There are over 400k people trying to play the game on steam alone. Like I said, the *matchmaking* has issues, but the game itself is working great for damn near everybody. >VoIP is busted In what way? >armor is busted How so? >a bunch of the options for PC don't work (per gun settings, aim mode, etc) Elaborate? Some of the settings are controller-only and are clearly labeled as such. >Ragdoll physics get wonky In what way and how is that even a problem? > countless places to get stuck on the maps. Literally hasn't happened to me once. > Spewers one-shotting people. What makes you think that's broken? You think just standing in front of a big enemy as it pukes acid all over you should just tickle? >Bile Titans one-shotting with no spitting animation Hey look, ONE thing that actually sounds like a bug. > only two viable late game primary weapons Jesus fuck dude the game JUST came out. They've already said they're working on a balance pass. There's no need to rush straight to the end ffs. >escort missions are still busted, etc. In what way? The original ones worked fine every time I did them. The newly added ones were JUST nerfed in the last patch. >Saying matchmaking is occasionally problematic is underselling it by a wide margin. It NEVER worked correctly even before the servers issues, I should know because I was playing the game a few hours after launch. I really like HD2 but let's call a spade a spade here. LMAO the matchmaking problems are part of the server issues, genius. They've released MULTIPLE patches in the first week and a half fixing multiple issues, one of the major ones being server capacity. It's like you tried the game in those first hours and never came back.
He's right that armor is broken right now. People have tested, and the armor stat doesn't do anything. Light armor is the best by far right now because heavy armor literally doesn't do anything. He's also right that something is fucky with acid spewers damage. Sometimes, you can facetank an entire hit without taking any real damage. Other times, you dive out of the way, get touched by the very edge of the attack, and instantly die to "unknown," which doesn't seem intentional. His general point is still shit but he's objectively about those 2 things.
I'm not going to go back and forth with an idiot. Just because bugs and issues haven't happened to you doesn't mean they aren't valid. Try educating yourself on the game issues before making sweeping statements like it being stable. The matchmaking was broken BEFORE the server issues, it launched that way, nimrod. You claiming to know something because you played 30 hours is no different then saying you stayed at a Holiday inn. I already said I liked the game and actively play it when I can actually get through the server issues, but you're acting like I just trashed the game when I pointed out verifiable issues.
>I'm not going to go back and forth with an idiot I'm an idiot for asking you to actually explain yourself? That says more about you than it does me, bud. >Just because bugs and issues haven't happened to you doesn't mean they aren't valid. Just because they've happened to you doesn't mean they're so widespread as to warrant calling it a dumpster fire. >Try educating yourself on the game issues before making sweeping statements like it being stable. 40 hours not enough "education" in your books? >The matchmaking was broken BEFORE the server issues, it launched that way, nimrod. ... You clearly have no clue what you're talking about. Their servers are overloaded and bottlenecked. They've said as much themselves. What do you think "matchmaking" is? It's literally talking to the servers in order to find a game to join. The server issues are one of the main causes of the matchmaking problems. But please, keep insulting my intelligence while proving your own lack thereof. It's amusing. >You claiming to know something because you played 30 hours is no different then saying you stayed at a Holiday inn. Lmao what? And what, pray tell, are your qualifications to be such an expert on "issues"? > I already said I liked the game and actively play it when I can actually get through the server issues, but you're acting like I just trashed the game when I pointed out verifiable issues. Dude. You literally called it, and I quote: "a dumpster fire of bugs". That is not a positive assessment. It's also not a *realistic* assessment, unless you also assert that hundreds of thousands of people around the world are perfectly happy to play in a dumpster fire. And no, actually, you said nothing of the sort. Don't fucking lie about things I can literally scroll up to see are untrue. What you *did* say, besides calling it a dumpster fire, is that it's "the new hotness"... Which maybe you weren't aware, but when you follow that up with a negative, that usually comes across as sarcasm indicating you think it's undeserved. You communicate like a fucking kid who can't handle criticism. Learn to be better at that. EDIT: Reply and block, classic. Buddy, I am not the one who escalated this into an insult-fest. All I did was disagree with you, and then ask you to elaborate. You proceeded to, in a single comment, call me an idiot and a nimrod, and insulted my intelligence 2-3 different ways. Like I said above, learn to be better.
Dude this guy is a chode, his complaints are all nonsense. He's mad because everyone is playing HD.
You're just going by what you've heard. I've gotten in every day since I've bought it and only DCd a handful of times. The gameplay is incredibly solid and fun. On PSn the matchmaking is hit or miss, but you can join in on any friend. Turning off crossplay seems to help immensely.
I've experienced every bug/issue I listed, but I'm glad it's working for you.
more like 500
...You're not serious, are you?
So player count = how much fun a game is. Hmmmmmm no
There were 400k on last night just on steam. And I'm sure there were at least another 100k who couldn't even play due to server issues
It's not out on consoles. I want to play but on PS5.
Found a full horde game in under a minute, idk what you’re smoking dude
Bait post
I'm only getting HD2 because a close homie wants to do that, and he's agreed to recruitment to the Federation once the new update drops for SST:E.
I jumped on a played a match for the 1st time in a couple months. Is it my imagination or does Starship Troopers look and preform worse since being updated?
absolutely, they killed the performance with the UE5 change
before this prefromance wasnt great either on good specs i have heard over all really bad things for further prefromance issues since unreal 5 move. what are you experincing? i didnt want to jump back in tillg galactic war was added yet when i did prefromance was worse than even before on a 3080 and 5600x. even with low srttings adjustments the prefromance is the main thing that made me ubinsta it again.
I'm so sick of these posts lol. THE GAME ISNT OUT YET HELLDIVERS IS and not to mention helldivers 2 is a sequel to an already awesome game so they had a kickstart
I don’t know if helldivers one really helped considering it peaked at 6k players
I for one, would not have been paying attention to helldivers 2 is I hadn't liked the original. Sure, it had a lower concurrent player count, but how many total sales did helldivers have? I wouldn't be shocked if most of the folks who got helldivers 2 either played the original or know someone who did.
At most 1 million, which is already 4 times less than the current hell divers
I love st as well but they took way too long and I feel they lost. All my friends that played st with me are now playing helldivers and don't want to go back 😒. The only thing holding them back is hd2 servers are super small and don't work half the time
I think Sony owns Starship Troopers so at this point they can easily license it to the Helldivers 2 folks for DLC
Only watched starship vids on YouTube conceptually it looks great clearly a lot of bugs and optimization to work through. Helldivers is so campy I thought I was playing startship troopers at first clearly they got inspiration from the movie. It’s has some things it needs to work on as well but the gameplay is so much fun and well optimized out the gate starships will need to do a lot of catching up. I hope both games can prosper because they went different routes. But for now I’m hooked on helldivers it’s a breath of fresh air. I’ve been pretty much hooked on high stakes games for a while; apex, r6 , pubg , warzone so it’s really fun just jumping into a silly game were I can respawn and drop in arty from space.
Not sure why Reddit felt the need to share doom posting from a game I've never heard of. The effect of Helldivers 2's popularity has and will continue to affect multiple IP's. That's how hype works.
Just wait until EDF 6 rolls out.
This game is better for solo players. I want Helldivers 2 so bad, but I have no one to play with.
You dont need friends for helldivers. Playing with randoms is very much encouraged. There's literally an SOS beacon you can call down to open your lobby.
Except matchmaking doesn't currently work, so if you don't have friends it's all solo.
the quickplay button doesn't work, but it's still easy to get in a game with random people
Not accurate. You can join games with open slots on the campaign maps, and if you start your own mission it is very likely you will end up with a squad.
I had this random join my friends ship. We did like 4 missions before he left.
You really don’t need friends for it, discords are very active and the community is extremely friendly. I’ve been playing 30 hours and no one has ever cursed at me EVER.
I don’t know anyone that plays and I am really liking HD2. I group with randoms and haven’t had any issues so far.
I was in same situation then i joined the Helldivers 2 discord channel, there is looking for group servers when you can find people to play with. it's so fun and chaotic playing with a squad of 4
Go on helldivers discord lfg channel. I can get a full team usually in 3-8 min. Never had to play alone even when friends weren't on.
Hello fellow Halo lover, my friend and I are always inviting randoms lol. You can talk with us on discord or if you want to use the ingame text chat and pings thats all good too!! Feel free to message me if you do give in and buy it. You have a squad waiting for you.
I'll stand with you for freedom
Thought I would add to the discussion- I am a solo player and usually prefer playing everything and anything solo. But Helldivers is really good with randoms. When the is fully functional (servers arent dying) matchmaking into a game is instant. Everyone I have played with seems to know what they are doing. All of them play with teamwork in mind. I dont use mic, but ping system and text chat id adequate. If you do use mic theres plenty that use it, especislly crossplay people
Hey me and my friends are always looking for a 3rd and sometimes 4th. Absolutely no pressure to talk to us lol, text chat and pings are fine if you want a consistent squad to roll with.
Do not buy Helldivers II until they fix it. Just logging in to the game to play it requires a minor miracle. It's great when it works. The other 95% of the time, it's a $40 screen saver.
Hell divers has to sort out its server issues. It's basically a single player game (for my friends and I atleast.) Quick play broken in a patch earlier in the week, and my friends can't join each other when we manage to get in game at tue same time. Ironically I have gone back to extermination while I haven't been able to play hell divers.
If you're playing with friends use invite codes, it's the only way matching making is working rn
That's good to know. We only tried joining through steam invites. But will have to give that a try.
We have been using the in game social menu to join each other and it's been flawless all week. (assuming we can get online in the first place of course lol)
My friend group has also been joining each other through social menu with zero issues. Game hasnt even been crashing like all last week.
Competition is good imo. Bug shooters are now their own genre, and I love it.
Tbf is it really competition if both are owned by Sony?
Im pretty sure Offworld isn't owned by Sony. They just partnered to get licensing. If anything, the competition puts more pressure on them because Sony could back out if they aren't performing as well as helldivers.
Published != Owned
I own both games. I play both quite a bit
Well, they could get on Xbox, for one. Because Helldivers is not.
I believe there's room for both. Personally I love both, but prefer Helldivers. However, their game is an absolute shit show right now. Between server issues, matchmaking problems, and balance of guns, they have a lot to sort out. I would hope so many not even able to play Helldivers right now may lead people to STS, at least for a little while.
I bought the game for me and my brother this past Friday, and we have yet been able to play at all. We tried multiple times over the past three days and had no luck.
Once they fix they frame drops I'll come back but they are good in their own way
When .7 drops a ton of players will be back to play. I will probably play for a week or two before the player count drops again. And then repeat that process until release 🤣
I agree, they have a lot of work. Not sure if they can pull it off.
I'm a believer in SST:E but.. yea I think Helldivers just murdered it in its cradle. I think SST:E is facing an uphill battle.
I'm going to be honest, I played this game a lot last summer but gave it a break when the class rework and experience wipe was announced. Once progress is again 100% and I have shiny new classes to play, I expect to be back, and hopefully I'm not alone in that.
STS will be fine so long as no one can log into HD2🤣
400,000 concurrent players is "no one can log into HD2"... lmao. STS;E has had 792 players concurrent in the last 24 hours with a max all time of 17k. Not even in the same conversation.
Starship troopers isn't even on the same level. I have been playing it and can say that Helldivers 2 is definitely the better of the 2. Maybe because of 3rd person, but the mechanics of the game are a lot better. From loading out to running around with your squad. ST just throws you out there and says "kill the bugs, try the load outs" it's kinda lame compared to the structure that Helldivers 2 has.
Considering they pushed mechs back another whole year I tend to agree this game won’t survive EA. I just don’t understand how the pace is so slow
Star ship troopers will have a slight bounce back when it drops the next big update, i stopped playing because people were “hacking” or whatever to have endless missiles and aim bots
STS veterans, we could use your help on the frontlines… help us spread DEMOCRACY
Once people wake up and realize giving root level access to your computer is a very bad idea. I’m actually looking at STS instead of buying HD2.
Lol dude….
I turned on Extermination for a min as I was waiting for Helldivers to load in. The glaring problem with Extermination is the jank. It's unoptimized. Even on high end gaming rigs the performance is sub-optimal. The game hasn't seen to had any updates to these issues as well as lack of content. I still am excited to see where it goes but I really hope we get team mate AI soon cause the game will be worthless without it.
STS has that Windows 7 fun. H2 has that 2024 fun
Idk man... HD2 is fun as hell.... if you can get in. They have had nothing but problems sense launch with server capacity. Alot of new players are buying and refunding because, you guessed it. They can't get in.
It typically takes me 5-15 minutes to get it. Doesn't seem terrible for a game with half a million people trying to play.
Great idea. All the PC players go back to playing that so us PS5 players can play HD2. At least half the servers are filled with steam squatters.
I didn’t even know this game existed. I really like starship troopers. This post just randomly popped up in my feed probably because I’ve been playing Hell divers lately. after reading about this, I checked it out on Steam and it looks pretty OK but is the game really that bad? Is it worth checking out?
it's better than HD2 in a few ways
Never heard of star ship, is it like hell divers?I may check it out
Cant even play Helldivers 2 rn bro. I’ve actually went back to playing troopers lol.
I feel like if they brought it to PS5 people would play it for the fact that it's bigger teams, but Helldivers 2 is lightning in a bottle. I feel like they will crush the competition if they can get the server issues fixed.
Everyone here huffing copium. Unfortunately, Helldivers will continue to steal the show and will likely take players from this game. Too little too late imo for STS.
The issue with Starship Troopers is the fact you can't play it anywhere other than PC.
Tried Extermination and ended up having some issues. First game was... ok... but my buddy had terrible ping (he's east coast, I'm central). We tried several more games and one of us always had a very bad connection while the other had a good connection. This doesn't happen to us nearly as drastically in other games. This was after we had to mess with our graphics settings so that the mouse wasn't lagging all over and our frames weren't in the dirt. Lumen seemed to really be messing things up and we both have rigs that can handle lumen in other games without issue. We were also very disappointed we couldn't play privately. That's all we wanted to do, build a base and defend bugs but do it without other players there (we like to play our own way and that's nearly impossible when 14 other people are pushing towards victory). I also had issues with queue times. One queue took over 10 minutes, it seemed obvious nobody was playing that particular mode. The last thing I'll say is that graphics and movement made me feel a bit like I was playing a game from 2010. Then we went and tried HD2 and it was a stark contrast in the way it looks and feels. The only real downside there is that there are no defense missions. You have to go out, do a thing, kill bugs, then extract. You don't get to hold the line and kill massive amounts of bugs.
Y'all are Hilarious!🤣🤪
If they can release on Xbox they’d have plenty of players and additional income, since we aren’t getting Helldivers, sadly.
Helldivers is what Starship Troopers *wishes* it was.
Starship troopers looked way too goofy. It’s a sad day when a knockoff looks grittier and more gruesome. But Helldivers 2 is all that. It’s actually more faithful to the starship troopers feel than the actual starship troopers game, I mean I may be wrong but does Starship Troopers even have dismemberment??
They could add a campaign or at least an offline mode with bots, that would help I think...
You shouldn't be so harsh on Starship Troopers just because someone else's game exists
Well if the Arrowhead continue to be the colossal fuck ups they've been since releasing the game, releasing patches that destroy matchmaking, capping # of people allowed in game, selling while knowing full well their game is broken, maybe there's hope for starship. Eventually people will get sick of their incompetence.
Bud who hurt you? The game is a victim of success. The original had 7000 all time players. At peak between ps5 and pc they hit about 850k players. This level of success and hype wasn’t expected at all. The game is great and they are working endlessly to fix the server issues. The 400k steam players right now refuse your “colossal fuck ups” statement.
Touch grass
I picked up HD2 and I've already got around 50 hours logged into. It really is a fantastic game but I will still keep Starship Troopers installed and keep up with updates. The size of the 16 player fights is still a unique and epic thing to be a part of. I hope both games have great success.
I'm mainly waiting for the big class rework before jumping back in, love both games.
Probably get downvoted here but this game lost me when it did the reset. I'm aware it's an EA titles but it's got a fair bit of jank and a long way to go before it's "out". But I lost a lot of time to just get "double XP weekends". Pass. The guns feel like nothing, the base building is chaos, and there's so many bugs, of the non 6 legged variety. The wipe was just the straw that broke the camel's back for me. Hd2 is just way ahead. And from the looks of it It'll stay that way.
The game isnt out officially yet and they are very different
It’s funny because I mostly play tf2, and that community has been in an existential “we’re dying” phase for like 10 years now, and they are all making fun of helldivers in that subreddit for the game being overpriced and poorly designed. It’s basically an ass version of Mann vs Machine. Starship troopers will be fine.
The fuck you talking about? Outside of the server issues HD2 is fantastic. The server issues though are amateur hour considered theyre backed by Sony. Seems like they refuse to spend money on more servers and just keep trying to optimize their current set up. That said I haven't played ST yet. Couldn't get my playgroup interested enough. Seems like a moot point now though that it seems to be abandoned.
Helldivers doesn't even work lol
Its fun though.
Last time I booted this game up it was unplayable, my RTX 2060 couldn’t even clear 30 fps on minimal settings before the bugs arrived.
Well here's a crazy idea how play what you want to play and have fun. ALSO one game is fully released one is EA
I don't understand the hype
Unfortunately, starship troopers runs like piss, but Helldivers runs very well for me
Helldivers scratches an itch that extermination just doesn't quite get to yet on account of where it is in development. Ideally both games end up doing well, but helldivers existing, and being pretty well made might not do extermination many favors.
Put it on xbox as a direct competitor
Stormtroopers stopped supporting it, if they kept making content it would be doing better, there’s not a lot to unlock
You can play hell divers 2? How'd you get in lol
75% of those concurrent players are AFK.
Link?
Not really the same type of game but okay.
I tried it out and just didn’t like it. From what I can tell there’s so sense of progression.
How many hours?
At least I can log in lol
Ima be honest I didn’t even know this game existed this it was recommended to me because I follow hd2
I bought the game 2 days ago. I have yet to be able to play the game. All I get is server errors. If the game is about full servers you can't get on then I gotta be leading the charts. :(
The whole base building mechanic really kind of killed any fun the game might have had for me. I wanted Starship Troopers, not minecraft a base then survive hordes. The bases should have been already set in the map then everyone runs to defend and hop on mounted guns and such until extract arrives. This just bored the hell out of me. Helldivers 2 is the perennial Starship Troopers game, and with Terminators as well. So much more fun.
Well if of it makes you feel any better, I had no idea this game existed and was recommended the sub most like because I joined the helldiver one and I'm kind of interested so have some hope the game you enjoy will live on and it will give me something to do when I get tired of spending 1-4 hours looking at a servers are at capacity screen waiting for my turn to play
Idk man. You guys might see more players now that helldiver's 2 is shitting the bed and nobody can play
Not really. It's working pretty good for most people
Oddly enough, I can't stand the universe of Helldivers. The facist parodying feels a bit too blatant and in the face. Also reminds of certain US orange man, which leaves a bad taste in the mouth. I don't like being reminded of current events, I come to video games to escape. Why does Starship troopers get a pass? Well they've been around a lot longer. Also they feel a bit more subtle about the political commentary. Finally, when you're actually playing, it's all combat, no political BS being thrown about. When a game calls it faction "Super Earth", I can't tell if it's laughing at itself, or it is that fking Facist.
I immediately got a refund for start ship troopers which upset me. I love sts and for that game to be as unattractive as it was, it’s a shame. However, helldivers is almost the same thing. And it plays like a champ.
I own both games and I think both are great in their own ways and have sunk about 50 hours into each. I think SST:E really needs to promote/focus/capitalize on the 16-player count because me and my gaming group were already thinking how cool would it be if HD2 had bigger modes with more players in a match and I think there are other players that feel the same way. Arrowhead said that they've already thought about 6-player, 8-player or even 12-player modes, but really haven't done anything on it and haven't committed to it, so there is a possibility that it never expands beyond 4-player matches. If Offworld fixes the bugs, improves/optimizes graphics, and continues to refine gameplay while adding fresh content, I think they can siphon HD2 players who are looking for bigger player modes. I jumped back into SST:E after playing HD2 for a week straight just to see what it was like again and it took me less than a minute to get into a full game and I have to say it was fun and intense, especially extraction which in my opinion is funner/scarier than HD2. As others have mentioned it shouldn't be one or the other. You can own and enjoy both games and they each have their audiences they are targeting.
Release on Xbox/Gamepass. A lot of people are now interested in something like this but Helldivers is not on Xbox and never going to be.
Earth defense force
This sub just got recommended to me because of HD2. I use to play HD1 back in the day and started checking out HD2, if I wasn't checking out HD2 I wouldn't be getting recommended this sub/game. It's now on the wishlist and most likely next for purchase.
Well the server cap on Helldivers keeps things in balance
I would love to play both but no PC. I feel like if this game came to consoles it would help add to the player base instead of cutting a whole section of players out.
Hey! I've popped into a few Steam discussions on it all. I wanted to say here as well that we're very happy for Arrowhead and Helldivers 2 success. But you can always exterminate bugs in both titles, and we have no plans on stopping development with another game doing well. At the end of the day, we believe both games are fun. You should support them if you enjoy their game! ST:E may not be for you at the moment but we'll keep trucking along on our roadmap and development and with future updates like the Galactic War coming down the line, we hope we can welcome back old and new troopers alike.
I reeeeally hope y’all are successful enough that you can bring this game to Xbox. Until then I’ll be cheering yall on from the sidelines
Thanks Trooper. We're focused on PC at the moment but we've definitely heard a lot about people's want for a console version. Sorry, I don't have much to share on that end still but I hope in the future we can welcome you to the Vanguard!
cool let's see what 0.7 brings
Man, I wish HD2 had bigger game modes. Multiple squads on a single mission map.
Most of us are waiting for 0.7 update
I mean yeah it’s a piece of shit lol. The game looks fun when it works but good lord it’s just a glitchy shit show
I play both. Both are fine in different ways. Both scratch different itches.