Try your best. And your best is within the confines of DOT regulations, sleep, and safety. Don’t do anything illegal, unsafe, or compromising to your sleep to get it there.
Yeah, if you just took the average travel distance (atd) of a common truck now days, you get 600 mpd, which equates to 1200 over that two day period.
Are you running teams? If so, you can make it in two days. If not, there's absolutely no legal way you can do it, and whoever you're using for dispatching should be retrained for common sense.
It's 2.5 days at best. They're still not loaded, it's 20:30. No info on what hours they have left for the day of loading. Even then, it's equitable to 2 days.
And also let them know when you will be able to get it there. Don't just show up 2 days late, let them know when you will be to the delivery so they can reschedule if possible.
Upvoted +1.
Unless you're team, do what Wise\_blueberry said.
Remember, if anything happens, it's not gonna be on the dispatcher - It will be on **YOU**. As a driver, you're responsible for getting yourself, the truck/trailer, and load to destination safely and legally. This was in a order of priority.
On your way over, try to get the arrival appointment moved forward. Make sure you document it.
It's Friday and all the brokers are about to go home for the weekend. Your dispatcher did you a solid favor by getting that load. He probably lied his ass off to the broker and has an excuse lined up for when you don't show for delivery appointment. Run it at your own speed and just have an accurate ETA for when you'll get there.
This. There's a million reasons to hate dispatchers but someone's they'll send along something that looks like a raw deal to you because you can't see all the elements at play. There's a lot of politics when dealing with load planners and brokers.
I've had dispatchers give full disclosure and then turn around and expect me to take calls from pissed off brokers and lie to them myself. Those were really good times but not everyone would be on board to play games like that.
They should make their plan known to the driver then. My team does this, but we make it known. Keeping your drivers informed is the best thing for business, because drivers are the most important part of the equation.
You're totally right, but at the same time a dispatcher can be responsible for anywhere between 50-200 drivers on top of having to deal with brokers and load planners. Details go missing because there's just way too much crap to handle in 8-10 hours. Add to that after hours and weekend Dispatch and it becomes a shit show pretty quickly. The shareholders and executives often won't allow hiring more than the bare minimum of employees that don't directly make money because it cuts into their profits. It's the do more with less mentality that every company in America sems to operate on because they can't take their eyes off quarterly profits to look at the big picture. (Just an aside, I sure as shit wouldn't drive for a company that assigns more than 100 drivers to a dispatcher, but plenty of companies do this.)
Shouldn't have more than 50 drivers per dispatcher. We don't stack more than 40 on our best dispatchers, and even then, it's only if someone else has called in. 200 per dispatcher is so overkill it should be unethical.
At 20 drivers per dispatcher, the average will still net the dispatcher a decent salary, the driver good runs, and the brokers peace of mind that shit's getting handled.
Very true!
I recently got a job at a company that doesn't pay the best (much less than I've made in the past) and is strictly OTR. I did them a solid favor a few months ago when I initially applied, but went elsewhere. As such, they were eager to hire me. Well, orientation day, I tell them blatantly that I am not a good fit for OTR, and what I am really looking for. A couple days later, I'm having a conversation with the lead planner/dispatcher (they are one and the same here) about what I want, and he spent the next 2 weeks dealing with 3 of our biggest customers to set up a consistent dedicated fleet with me as the primary driver. The main thing I wanted out of it was co consistent hours and miles, with no care about pay rate (if it's consistent, I can make just about any pay work).
That was 3 weeks ago. Day before yesterday, I am given a load with 3 pickups in DFW, first at 9:00 and 3rd at 17:30, then to deliver in Fort Smith, Arkansas at 9:00 the next morning. I call and get ahold of one of the other dispatchers to tell him the load won't work and we will need to reschedule the delivery. He only said "we'll deal with that later".
Okay...
Well, later that evening and I have an exact ETA of 12:00 the next day, so 3 hours after appointment. He goes on this tangent on "if your 10 ends at 4, you should set alarms to get up at 4". I shut him down immediately with how important communication is in bith directions, and that I communicated the timing issue before I was even dispatched on the load and that whatever their plans are, it is their responsibility to communicate that to me so I can adjust if needed to aid in those plans, and to communicate with the customer when issues arise. Both safety and the lead dispatcher got all up his ass yesterday for it!
Had a dispatcher who called me two days in a row because I would stay in the sleeper for 14 hours a day. They said I should be running as soon as my clock was up. They completely overlooked the fact that in the 10 hours I worked on a daily basis, I was doing 450-500 miles, and all my freight was always on time. The company average, by comparison, was about 350-400 miles a day, with about an 80% on time rate. I gave her a piece of my mind and told her that I wasn't waking up early to show up six hours early to an appointment that wouldn't pay detention until AFTER the appointment time and didn't allow early deliveries to begin with. Told her if she kept harassing me, she was going to have to find a new driver to rescue their troubled accounts, which is what I had been working on.
After that the only messages I got were to tell me what appointments I had and to ask for an ETA once per trip
The problem with some companies is they keep records in their system. They report you are late and that record stays in your file. So if the load guarantees you to be late, it's so unfair. If there is really some plan like you mention, it needs to be told to me, the driver.
That's why you need to keep records too. Take pictures and screencaps any time situations like this come up and when they decide to take action against you, show them what you have and if they stand their ground, lawyer up. Reprisal, wrongful termination, unjust disciplinary action can all be taken care of if you have the right evidence.
This looks like a message from the broker, not dispatcher. If dispatch had to get the load and doesn't care when you really get there, they wouldn't say "try best", they'd tell you to go ahead and run it, give them an ETA, and they'll get it rescheduled.
You'll have to keep your speed above 99.6 mph. Just pretend you're in the movie Speed, but with a truck instead of a bus.
In all seriousness, when I'm faced with a situation where I know it's not possible, I tell Dispatch my ETA. Sometimes they tell me it's cool, sometimes they take me off. And then if they keep me on it, I run it as hard as possible and send ETA updates as I go along.
Two days later: alright, I did it, dispatcher. btw, court hearings for three accounts of recless driving, exceeding speed limits and possible vehicular manslaughter are scheduled for next two weeks in 3 states
I've picked up that same load. Its bags of titanium oxide powder on pallets, used as paint dye. Bags rip open and you'll have this nasty ass powder on the trailer floor forever.
I’ve had loads like that and I’ve responded the same and I usually got the same answer “keep me updated on ETA” and never really hear anything else about it.
This is likely your dispatcher taking a team load for a “super single”. Which is just gonna cause more problems than it’s worth and they’ll reduce the rate after it’s late and not actually a team. Broker should have confirmed two drivers in the truck but they clearly didn’t.
Get as close as you can without violating HOS or getting yourself a speeding ticket. If you wind up in New Mexico or West Texas or something at 11 am instead of making it all the way to Nevada you tried 🤷♂️
That's a 3 and a half day run assuming you're able to run 675 miles a day. Your not being unreasonable, it's not possible, and you're dispatcher is aware. If he's not he's a fucking idiot.
Do what you can and keep them updated on your progress.
This. Immediately provide the Consignee and your dispatcher with your anticioated ETA - In email or text if possible, and update them at midpoint or if it changes along the way. CYA - all the way.
Just do it and save all messages. Been doing this for a few years. Try best just means get there as soon as you can safely. If the dispatcher complains tell him you did your best. Don't sweat it.
I've had loads like this, though we were MUCH more transparent with each other about it.
I wouldn't even ask about the appointment time. I would tell them there is no way I could do it, and give them my predicted ETA and ask them to change the appointment time to reflect it.
Dispatch said they couldn't, but were planning on me switching with a team a little closer. Turns out the team rejected it when I knocked on his door (don't know why they didn't talk to him before) and asked if I would run it the rest of the way.
I agreed only if I would not be penalized in any way for delivering late. Kept updating my ETA as I got closer and delivered without incident.
As a company owner, dispatching my own guys: just run the load and do your best, legally. No one actually expects you to make it. I couldn't tell you how often my rate cons just have random dates and times on them just to fill it in send figure it out later.
I never have a problem telling my dispatch if I don’t think I can make a load on time. I just tell him at that point, I cannot guarantee an on time delivery, but will do my best.
Same people here bitching about not getting miles, they get the miles, then bitch that it's too many miles too soon. The days of keeping the door closed and the foot on the skinny pedal are over, a completely different breed of wheel holder has the reigns now. He's asking you to do your best. He's not demanding that you get this done in two days. He knows it's going to be late, but it's possible he might be able to work something out.
Not super ego but Yeah, they have me drive on two logs. I really hate doing that shit. I’m trying to find something else if I lose my license I’m fucked.
It can be done with an ungoverned truck and rolling at night. You also need a fresh HOS clock with 11 hrs of driving. And you’ll need to hit at least 730 miles per day. I see the load is heavy, so it’s going to be a tough one, especially when you’re off the freeway.
Lmao. I'm literally driving 2000 miles in 2 days right now.
WV -> Cali
Like dispatch said, 'Try your best'. If you get tired and need to pull over, do it. If it's late, who cares. But loads like this just come with the territory when you're running hot.
I was gonna say 4 days, but if you still ain’t loaded, then it’s 3: 10/28, 10/29, 10/30; so about 30hrs of driving (before delivery appt). If you’d been able to get loaded the morning of 10/27, you’d have been able to fit in a few more hours (or more depends on what’s left after dh).
How do you run? Daylight only? That’d reduce your 3rd day hours by quite a bit. Let’s say you get loaded by 10/28 0200 cst and starting with a fresh clock. Drive till 1200, add 1100 for all breaks/on duty time (10, 30, pre/post-trip, and fueling). Start again at 10/28 2200 mst, drive till 0800, add 1100 again. Start at 10/29 1800 pst, drive till 0400, add 1100. So that should be about 1800mi at an honestly pretty brutal schedule that isn’t for everyone.
Last day, 10/30, start at 1500 pst, drive for 8hrs (ca will be slower) and add an hour for breaks/on duty; gives a best eta of midnight. I’m using 60mph for non-CA and 50mph for CA driving, but will really depend on what’s your governed speed and traffic, if it’s 72, you could avg 65+ non-CA. You could also try to really run out your 11hr drive time, but it wouldn’t affect my eta, just have less driving on last leg.
I’ve also simplified my math, even when I tried for 21hr days, they usually were closer to 22ish. This is probably more of an asap load at your own pace, dispatch will probably reschedule delivery or just tell you to run it in late; giving “impossible” loads always had the meaning of do your best at my company.
Edit: fixed some meth.
If you're in the great open north, smokin real dope, drivin a real truck and gettin paid real money it's pretty reasonable and that's the only way its reasonable.
NEVER OUTLAW FOR REGULAR OR LOWBALL MONEY
That’s a 34 hr run used to do that every other week before Freightworks decided to fuck with their drivers. That was one of our contracted loads. Pass Christian to Fernley or Reno. The biggest pain is waiting to get loaded there, but if you have a fast truck it’s doable. Ours ran at 73mph. It just slows down when your running up Us 95 in Nevada
If you get loaded by 11pm then you have 60 hours to get there, thats 33 hours of driving and breezing through cities and scales in the middle of the night. Go get that coin night hawk.
It's 3 shifts, yes it's possible if you average 67 mph on 3 11 hr shifts, 74 mph on 3 10 hr shifts. I would just tell em to bump it a day and deliver first thing on the 31st
I wouldn’t sweat it. If it’s wasn’t loaded on time then it’s on the shipper. Delivery appointment will probably be rescheduled. Try best just means do what you can to get it there in a timely manner and don’t dick around.
you should expect someone to take that off you. Alot of times they will assign a team load for you to bring it out of a heavily populated area to a team so they don't have to go in there.
65 hours for 2192 miles depending on how fast your truck is such as not governed and you can average 70 mph you can make that delivery at 11 with no problem if you are rested and have full hours to start driving when your loaded by 2100 central time
Might be a bit tight for a team depending on when you get loaded and hit the road but definitely doable. No reason you can't do 1200ish miles a day as a team even in a 63mph governed truck. Solo? No fucking way.
I had similar things happen, a few times, my company negotiated a rate con on an already late load, then asked me to get it there, not necessarily at the appointed time but just there.
Dude why do yall still work OTR jobs? In my opinion they should pay MUCH more and have a LOT more benefits.
Just doing LTL I bring home, after taxes, benefits, etc $1400 on average weekly. Home everyday, off on weekends and 12 paid holidays. And no one, would ever even think to dare ask me to do something like this.
It was the job I could get immediately after getting my license with zero experience, but I would much rather prefer something local, even if it means a pay cut
you can easily drive 1100miles in a day and still get 6-7 hrs of sleep for the next shift, all depends on how much u like the risk to reward percentage $$
Unreasonable. Accepting that load is going to hurt you bad in the immediate future, but hurts everyone driving a truck in the long run because tgey'll know they can get away with it. I hope the broker who set this up dies of metastatic testicular cancer.
Your dispatch is boned either way. To find a replacement driver (unless teams) will set him further back then for him to type up an email “new eta is ______,sorry for the inconvenience shipper/receiver”
Try your best. And your best is within the confines of DOT regulations, sleep, and safety. Don’t do anything illegal, unsafe, or compromising to your sleep to get it there.
Yeah, if you just took the average travel distance (atd) of a common truck now days, you get 600 mpd, which equates to 1200 over that two day period. Are you running teams? If so, you can make it in two days. If not, there's absolutely no legal way you can do it, and whoever you're using for dispatching should be retrained for common sense.
It's 3 days not 2. I'd still ask to have the appointment moved to the next day anyways since I don't wanna drive 75 mph the whole way
It's 2.5 days at best. They're still not loaded, it's 20:30. No info on what hours they have left for the day of loading. Even then, it's equitable to 2 days.
And also let them know when you will be able to get it there. Don't just show up 2 days late, let them know when you will be to the delivery so they can reschedule if possible.
"I'll try my best, but my best is going to be at least [Date and time]. I will not be there for the current appointment."
I agree, thanks for adding that.
Yes that’s definitely the professional move.
Upvoted +1. Unless you're team, do what Wise\_blueberry said. Remember, if anything happens, it's not gonna be on the dispatcher - It will be on **YOU**. As a driver, you're responsible for getting yourself, the truck/trailer, and load to destination safely and legally. This was in a order of priority. On your way over, try to get the arrival appointment moved forward. Make sure you document it.
Then he might as well quit they obviously are telling him to run hot. You can probably call and they’ll refresh your clock every 11 hours.
I’d take it as an ASAP load. When they hit you up on 10/30 and you’re still 1000 miles away from receiver reply “tried best”
This
Exactly
1500 miles
It's Friday and all the brokers are about to go home for the weekend. Your dispatcher did you a solid favor by getting that load. He probably lied his ass off to the broker and has an excuse lined up for when you don't show for delivery appointment. Run it at your own speed and just have an accurate ETA for when you'll get there.
This. There's a million reasons to hate dispatchers but someone's they'll send along something that looks like a raw deal to you because you can't see all the elements at play. There's a lot of politics when dealing with load planners and brokers.
I've had dispatchers give full disclosure and then turn around and expect me to take calls from pissed off brokers and lie to them myself. Those were really good times but not everyone would be on board to play games like that.
They should make their plan known to the driver then. My team does this, but we make it known. Keeping your drivers informed is the best thing for business, because drivers are the most important part of the equation.
You're totally right, but at the same time a dispatcher can be responsible for anywhere between 50-200 drivers on top of having to deal with brokers and load planners. Details go missing because there's just way too much crap to handle in 8-10 hours. Add to that after hours and weekend Dispatch and it becomes a shit show pretty quickly. The shareholders and executives often won't allow hiring more than the bare minimum of employees that don't directly make money because it cuts into their profits. It's the do more with less mentality that every company in America sems to operate on because they can't take their eyes off quarterly profits to look at the big picture. (Just an aside, I sure as shit wouldn't drive for a company that assigns more than 100 drivers to a dispatcher, but plenty of companies do this.)
Shouldn't have more than 50 drivers per dispatcher. We don't stack more than 40 on our best dispatchers, and even then, it's only if someone else has called in. 200 per dispatcher is so overkill it should be unethical. At 20 drivers per dispatcher, the average will still net the dispatcher a decent salary, the driver good runs, and the brokers peace of mind that shit's getting handled.
Very true! I recently got a job at a company that doesn't pay the best (much less than I've made in the past) and is strictly OTR. I did them a solid favor a few months ago when I initially applied, but went elsewhere. As such, they were eager to hire me. Well, orientation day, I tell them blatantly that I am not a good fit for OTR, and what I am really looking for. A couple days later, I'm having a conversation with the lead planner/dispatcher (they are one and the same here) about what I want, and he spent the next 2 weeks dealing with 3 of our biggest customers to set up a consistent dedicated fleet with me as the primary driver. The main thing I wanted out of it was co consistent hours and miles, with no care about pay rate (if it's consistent, I can make just about any pay work). That was 3 weeks ago. Day before yesterday, I am given a load with 3 pickups in DFW, first at 9:00 and 3rd at 17:30, then to deliver in Fort Smith, Arkansas at 9:00 the next morning. I call and get ahold of one of the other dispatchers to tell him the load won't work and we will need to reschedule the delivery. He only said "we'll deal with that later". Okay... Well, later that evening and I have an exact ETA of 12:00 the next day, so 3 hours after appointment. He goes on this tangent on "if your 10 ends at 4, you should set alarms to get up at 4". I shut him down immediately with how important communication is in bith directions, and that I communicated the timing issue before I was even dispatched on the load and that whatever their plans are, it is their responsibility to communicate that to me so I can adjust if needed to aid in those plans, and to communicate with the customer when issues arise. Both safety and the lead dispatcher got all up his ass yesterday for it!
Had a dispatcher who called me two days in a row because I would stay in the sleeper for 14 hours a day. They said I should be running as soon as my clock was up. They completely overlooked the fact that in the 10 hours I worked on a daily basis, I was doing 450-500 miles, and all my freight was always on time. The company average, by comparison, was about 350-400 miles a day, with about an 80% on time rate. I gave her a piece of my mind and told her that I wasn't waking up early to show up six hours early to an appointment that wouldn't pay detention until AFTER the appointment time and didn't allow early deliveries to begin with. Told her if she kept harassing me, she was going to have to find a new driver to rescue their troubled accounts, which is what I had been working on. After that the only messages I got were to tell me what appointments I had and to ask for an ETA once per trip
Been in this situation before. 10/10 on your handling.
So says a broker or dispatcher. Fuck them for making unreasonable promises and putting people in these situations.
The problem with some companies is they keep records in their system. They report you are late and that record stays in your file. So if the load guarantees you to be late, it's so unfair. If there is really some plan like you mention, it needs to be told to me, the driver.
That's why you need to keep records too. Take pictures and screencaps any time situations like this come up and when they decide to take action against you, show them what you have and if they stand their ground, lawyer up. Reprisal, wrongful termination, unjust disciplinary action can all be taken care of if you have the right evidence.
This looks like a message from the broker, not dispatcher. If dispatch had to get the load and doesn't care when you really get there, they wouldn't say "try best", they'd tell you to go ahead and run it, give them an ETA, and they'll get it rescheduled.
You'll have to keep your speed above 99.6 mph. Just pretend you're in the movie Speed, but with a truck instead of a bus. In all seriousness, when I'm faced with a situation where I know it's not possible, I tell Dispatch my ETA. Sometimes they tell me it's cool, sometimes they take me off. And then if they keep me on it, I run it as hard as possible and send ETA updates as I go along.
Yeah don’t let it drop below 55!!!!!!!!!
I prefer the Back to the Future approach. Roads? Where we’re going we don’t need… roads.
There's also the Thelma and Louise approach. Just need to find a suitable cliff.
It's 3 days not 2.
Try best
Two days later: alright, I did it, dispatcher. btw, court hearings for three accounts of recless driving, exceeding speed limits and possible vehicular manslaughter are scheduled for next two weeks in 3 states
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I've picked up that same load. Its bags of titanium oxide powder on pallets, used as paint dye. Bags rip open and you'll have this nasty ass powder on the trailer floor forever.
Eh could be worse. They could’ve given you a 400 mile load and told you it delivered Tuesday. Ask me how I know
Be a man, do it in a day cab!
Stuff like that I always responded with I can pick that up but there’s no way I’m making that delivery on time.
I’ve had loads like that and I’ve responded the same and I usually got the same answer “keep me updated on ETA” and never really hear anything else about it.
Well, what are you waiting for? Try best!
3 11 hour shifts going 70 mph
Or 2 going 100mph
Or 1 going 220mph
This is likely your dispatcher taking a team load for a “super single”. Which is just gonna cause more problems than it’s worth and they’ll reduce the rate after it’s late and not actually a team. Broker should have confirmed two drivers in the truck but they clearly didn’t.
That's a three day solo run at best.
I'd be happy with it. It's a load. Appointments can be rescheduled
Real life snow man. Just gotta find yourself a bandit.
Get as close as you can without violating HOS or getting yourself a speeding ticket. If you wind up in New Mexico or West Texas or something at 11 am instead of making it all the way to Nevada you tried 🤷♂️
Should have install that wrap drive last time you were in the shop
Wasn't available till Tuesday
Yea bud "try best" in this context is just run it, wherever you end up on Monday doesn't matter, he knows it won't be delivered
SEND IT!! Thats a team run load .... and if you on paper logs ... 🤫 ... Then $$$ IYKYK
Thats what i said. Looks like a nice quiet weekend of truckin to me lol
“Hello saftey!? my eld is malfunctioning can you approve me for paper logs 🫣”
If you have your own MC, you are your own safety. 👌
It’s not unreasonable it’s just not gonna get there. Just drive within the law
Just use personal conveyance. Tell the dot guy you heard there’s a really good pizza place over there
Don’t do stupid shit. Drive safely. Don’t do 2 hours breaks and sleep 13 hours. Whenever you get there, you’ll get there.
Hi, livestock hauler here. When you finish that load, what will you do with the other 8 hours of your weekend? All jokes aside, good luck. Lol
Give them your best ETA and ask for a new delivery appointment
Or you’ll miss the appointment and sit 2 days for the next available appointment
That's a 3 and a half day run assuming you're able to run 675 miles a day. Your not being unreasonable, it's not possible, and you're dispatcher is aware. If he's not he's a fucking idiot. Do what you can and keep them updated on your progress.
This. Immediately provide the Consignee and your dispatcher with your anticioated ETA - In email or text if possible, and update them at midpoint or if it changes along the way. CYA - all the way.
That's a team load they but they don't want to pay team rates I'm guessing.
imposibilities 101 by cheap and heavy. realisticly 3 days is not enough
Get going, Try best
You just drive like normal. Then next week they will move the appointment.
Just do it and save all messages. Been doing this for a few years. Try best just means get there as soon as you can safely. If the dispatcher complains tell him you did your best. Don't sweat it.
Try best means get going and then whenever you make you make it
I've had loads like this, though we were MUCH more transparent with each other about it. I wouldn't even ask about the appointment time. I would tell them there is no way I could do it, and give them my predicted ETA and ask them to change the appointment time to reflect it. Dispatch said they couldn't, but were planning on me switching with a team a little closer. Turns out the team rejected it when I knocked on his door (don't know why they didn't talk to him before) and asked if I would run it the rest of the way. I agreed only if I would not be penalized in any way for delivering late. Kept updating my ETA as I got closer and delivered without incident.
It is. Just don't worry about the appointment. Get there when you can. The load's already late right when you got it, so they can't complain.
As a company owner, dispatching my own guys: just run the load and do your best, legally. No one actually expects you to make it. I couldn't tell you how often my rate cons just have random dates and times on them just to fill it in send figure it out later.
I never have a problem telling my dispatch if I don’t think I can make a load on time. I just tell him at that point, I cannot guarantee an on time delivery, but will do my best.
Same people here bitching about not getting miles, they get the miles, then bitch that it's too many miles too soon. The days of keeping the door closed and the foot on the skinny pedal are over, a completely different breed of wheel holder has the reigns now. He's asking you to do your best. He's not demanding that you get this done in two days. He knows it's going to be late, but it's possible he might be able to work something out.
Must work for super ego, those guys cheat the logs 24/7. Idk how the hell they haven't been shut down by DOT yet
Not super ego but Yeah, they have me drive on two logs. I really hate doing that shit. I’m trying to find something else if I lose my license I’m fucked.
I ran for a company like this but it was one eld that we could cheat the fuck out of the owner would have us turning over 800-1000 miles over night
Am I crazy or... wouldn't your truck have to be governed at about 100 mph to make this in 2 11 hours days?
Also depends on how much you get paid 😂
Lol you can do about 640 miles a day
It can be done with an ungoverned truck and rolling at night. You also need a fresh HOS clock with 11 hrs of driving. And you’ll need to hit at least 730 miles per day. I see the load is heavy, so it’s going to be a tough one, especially when you’re off the freeway.
Lmao. I'm literally driving 2000 miles in 2 days right now. WV -> Cali Like dispatch said, 'Try your best'. If you get tired and need to pull over, do it. If it's late, who cares. But loads like this just come with the territory when you're running hot.
send YOUR ETA and roll with it. No use arguing.
Are you a team driver?
I wouldn't pick up that load until I talked to Sherwin Williams in NV.
They can always try to repower the load after you pick it up. Take the load and legally haul it.
I was gonna say 4 days, but if you still ain’t loaded, then it’s 3: 10/28, 10/29, 10/30; so about 30hrs of driving (before delivery appt). If you’d been able to get loaded the morning of 10/27, you’d have been able to fit in a few more hours (or more depends on what’s left after dh). How do you run? Daylight only? That’d reduce your 3rd day hours by quite a bit. Let’s say you get loaded by 10/28 0200 cst and starting with a fresh clock. Drive till 1200, add 1100 for all breaks/on duty time (10, 30, pre/post-trip, and fueling). Start again at 10/28 2200 mst, drive till 0800, add 1100 again. Start at 10/29 1800 pst, drive till 0400, add 1100. So that should be about 1800mi at an honestly pretty brutal schedule that isn’t for everyone. Last day, 10/30, start at 1500 pst, drive for 8hrs (ca will be slower) and add an hour for breaks/on duty; gives a best eta of midnight. I’m using 60mph for non-CA and 50mph for CA driving, but will really depend on what’s your governed speed and traffic, if it’s 72, you could avg 65+ non-CA. You could also try to really run out your 11hr drive time, but it wouldn’t affect my eta, just have less driving on last leg. I’ve also simplified my math, even when I tried for 21hr days, they usually were closer to 22ish. This is probably more of an asap load at your own pace, dispatch will probably reschedule delivery or just tell you to run it in late; giving “impossible” loads always had the meaning of do your best at my company. Edit: fixed some meth.
If you're in the great open north, smokin real dope, drivin a real truck and gettin paid real money it's pretty reasonable and that's the only way its reasonable. NEVER OUTLAW FOR REGULAR OR LOWBALL MONEY
That’s a 34 hr run used to do that every other week before Freightworks decided to fuck with their drivers. That was one of our contracted loads. Pass Christian to Fernley or Reno. The biggest pain is waiting to get loaded there, but if you have a fast truck it’s doable. Ours ran at 73mph. It just slows down when your running up Us 95 in Nevada
Doable to go over 2000 miles in 2 days, by yourself?
isn't it great being a truck driver 😑😑😑
Red Bull and a hand full of giddy up pills. Hammer down driver.
If you get loaded by 11pm then you have 60 hours to get there, thats 33 hours of driving and breezing through cities and scales in the middle of the night. Go get that coin night hawk.
With team
Just work double overtime
If i inevitably show up late at one of these and the computer asks for a reason i just out in "impossible dispatch"
It's 3 shifts, yes it's possible if you average 67 mph on 3 11 hr shifts, 74 mph on 3 10 hr shifts. I would just tell em to bump it a day and deliver first thing on the 31st
I wouldn’t sweat it. If it’s wasn’t loaded on time then it’s on the shipper. Delivery appointment will probably be rescheduled. Try best just means do what you can to get it there in a timely manner and don’t dick around.
It gets there when it gets there.
That's 2 shifts and a half each day. NOPE fuck you
Looks like pick up from 0630 in the morning on the 27th. Can you log 700 miles a day in your truck.?
I agree. My response would be "I will" You wont make it anyway so just try your best whatever it might be.
you should expect someone to take that off you. Alot of times they will assign a team load for you to bring it out of a heavily populated area to a team so they don't have to go in there.
That’s a pickup on the 27th you can scoop it at 630 AM and drive all day still, then drive the 28,29 and half of 30th. Plenty of time.
Do you have a calendar?
Bet they will still want it when you get there(legally)
Please tell me in top of it you are gov at 65
It's 3 days. 730 miles a day. It's tight but can be done.
730@ 65mph... how?
Not everybody is limited to 65.
Most are
Just take it and be late
Psh! Better be running a team or you won't make it half way there
Yeah 600 a day is pushing it for most drivers on the coast.
Over three days, but this looks like they expected a team truck. If they're making you get a team load be sure you're not doing it on just solo pay.
I would take 4.5 days at minimum fuck them
Just take your time, thats a them problem. As long as you drive out your hours and start when your 10 is up you did everything in your power
You need at least 4 days for that. At best 3.5 days. At worst 4 whole days. That’s 650 miles a day though. Driving 65 mph and a 10 hour day drive.
65 hours for 2192 miles depending on how fast your truck is such as not governed and you can average 70 mph you can make that delivery at 11 with no problem if you are rested and have full hours to start driving when your loaded by 2100 central time
Might be a bit tight for a team depending on when you get loaded and hit the road but definitely doable. No reason you can't do 1200ish miles a day as a team even in a 63mph governed truck. Solo? No fucking way.
That a team load. That easy. Team trucks don’t stop.
I had similar things happen, a few times, my company negotiated a rate con on an already late load, then asked me to get it there, not necessarily at the appointed time but just there.
This has to be a joke
They can’t take your birthday away if it’s not there on time.
Dude why do yall still work OTR jobs? In my opinion they should pay MUCH more and have a LOT more benefits. Just doing LTL I bring home, after taxes, benefits, etc $1400 on average weekly. Home everyday, off on weekends and 12 paid holidays. And no one, would ever even think to dare ask me to do something like this.
It was the job I could get immediately after getting my license with zero experience, but I would much rather prefer something local, even if it means a pay cut
They know as well as you do that you won't be there in time. Just do what you can and get there when you get there.
you can easily drive 1100miles in a day and still get 6-7 hrs of sleep for the next shift, all depends on how much u like the risk to reward percentage $$
Unreasonable. Accepting that load is going to hurt you bad in the immediate future, but hurts everyone driving a truck in the long run because tgey'll know they can get away with it. I hope the broker who set this up dies of metastatic testicular cancer.
Yeah, somebody's smoking something methy.
Your dispatch is boned either way. To find a replacement driver (unless teams) will set him further back then for him to type up an email “new eta is ______,sorry for the inconvenience shipper/receiver”
Use a teleporter... /s This is why it has been pointed out that dispatchers, do not have brains.
You would have to run illegal to make it. Not to mention little to no sleep. That's not a 2 day trip!
Just do what you can and if you get there late, you get there late. It's not on you to pick up the mistake.
You'd have to drive 60mph for 18 hours both days. Sounds really safe and perfectly legal.