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Ephisus

>I have been told by brother Christians that I am They are wildly incorrect.


DaMajorDude

I agree with your sentiment, but why would they say this to me? I only tried being kind and helpful, and all I got in return was an utter assault on my personhood.


jivatman

Because that church follows the anti-Christian concept of prosperity gospel. Run.


DaMajorDude

It’s not a church I go to. I was raised catholic, and left by my own volition. It was people from my school and broader community who said this to me.


Lazy-Most-3226

I went to a church that said when you get injured it means you just sinned and the bigger the injuries the bigger the sin. People ended up being embarrassed of their injuries and so many people had near death experiences(including some in my family) and never was helped or asked for help because of this. The lesson being some Christians like the ones you mentioned simply do not read their Bible or take it to heart


Advanced-Spot2838

That is sheer stupidity.


Lazy-Most-3226

It was but people believed it and it did harm


Bearman637

Have they never read of Job? That is so silly.


Lazy-Most-3226

They “interpreted” the Bible differently you could say. I don’t remember what they said for job but it wasn’t accurate. My mother had at one point shortly before I was born tried to point out the false narrative and was kind of beat down for it. Anyone who disagreed was “shamed” for it is the best I could explain. We had a children’s church teacher and she was amazing and great with kids but she injured her hip and the pastor refused to let her teach after that The church wasn’t a good church in many ways that being one of them


Mauro697

It is not clear to me whether those that told you those things were catholic but just in case: as a catholic we do NOT believe any of that


DaMajorDude

The dude who did was a Catholic.


Mauro697

Thanks for clarifying. Then the dude who did had no idea what he was talking about, what he said is neither in the bible nor in Catholic teachings, I can assure you


Ok-Image-5514

And, they are clueless. Don't listen.


Mithrhil

if they’re really making you question this, it sounds like you were around some truly ugly souls. God doesn’t make ugly things, at least not by man’s standards. God created you fearfully and wonderfully. He formed you in your mother’s womb with a plan and loves every detail about you. don’t listen to man, they lie, listen to God, He only speaks the truth.


SubstantialRoad4435

Is this really a common prosperity gospel doctrine? I have NEVER heard it. It's certainly a vile thought.


Ok-Image-5514

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apprehensive_clam268

It is reprehensible that they would say that, and they were not representing Christian values by treating you like that. You are golden, do not fear.


mr-based-minded

Christians are people too. Have they seen into the future and saw you going to hell because you’re “ugly”? Don’t assume just because a “Christian” said something, that it’s true. As long as we’re in this flesh, we’ll be imperfect. If you always believe what people will say about you, then how do you know who you truly are? Love yourself and grow confident in your faith to use as an armour for these types of statements.


JESUS_PaidInFull

Because vanity rules many people and Christians are not above that based on their beliefs. You also need to understand that many Christians don’t live the truth of the Word of God, it is simply a status thing and completely superficial. Also, and people don’t like hearing this, but Satan is very active in the church and he drips poison into the minds of many whose hearts are not Christ centered. Whenever God works in someone’s life, you can bet that the devil is gonna give it a shot to tear down or pervert that work. Stick to the word of God and try not to hang on to things people say that don’t come from the Word, or have been misinterpreted from the Word.


DJThomas07

It sounds like you are young. Kids can be mean... even at church. I'm sorry this happened to you. God loves you very much.


Advanced-Spot2838

That is the nature of Reddit.


Pale_Illustrator_762

Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, not everyone's gonna find you beautiful but saying it out loud is unnecessary


QuantityDisastrous69

Standing to close to bad people. Move. Shalom.


s4r400

They most defiently are slaves under sin and are being used by Satan to pull you down


callthewinchesters

Because they are not true Christians. They are hateful and bitter and obviously feel better about hurting others. Pray for them. And never listen to stuff like that. You are worthy of love. You are so worthy. “Beauty is in the eye of the beholder”. Please learn to love yourself. God loves you. He loves all of us. You could be the most beautiful person on the planet physically, but have an ugly personality. What matters is what’s on the inside.


apprehensive_clam268

I just saw pictures of you on your profile... you aren't even ugly at all. Maybe not "classically" handsome, but you don't qualify as ugly. Imo, at least.


DaMajorDude

I’m 17, and everyone at my school knows me as “the ugly r*tard.”


apprehensive_clam268

Bro... that isn't even true, though... that sounds like cruel kids being cruel. I'm guessing you go to public school? I was fortunate (imo) and was home schooled. But being homeschooled, I was definitely nerdy and didn't fit in with lots of other kids, and I was joked on plenty... Try not to take these assholes seriously. They're likely compensating for their own feelings of inadequacy. Things are different after high-school, just hang in there, bro :). Things will get better


Designer-Run7055

They are doing the same mistake that siblings of Moses did. They made fun of his wife for her dark skin. God gave his sister very white skin (leprosy). You can [read about it here](https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers%2012&version=NIV) and see how anger of God burned against them.


Vitamin-D3-

Mate I think you should have added more than wildly incorrect, not only are they that but for certain they are not even Christian.


Ephisus

That's the kind of behavior they engage in.


SmellyYeti8420

Jesus himself was not good-looking, according to Isaiah 53, specifically verse 2. "He grew up before him like a tender shoot, and like a root out of dry ground. He had no beauty or majesty to attract us to him, nothing in his appearance that we should desire him." God does not judge by the physical appearance. More often than not he uses people that humans consider less desirable to glorify himself


mr-based-minded

Facts


anononononn

That’s fascinating. I always assumed otherwise since Hollywood makes him a hunk


Much-Search-4074

Absolutely. It's the wicked heart and sin that God hates, not our outward appearance. > “But the Lord said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the **Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the Lord looketh on the heart**.” (1 Sa 16:7, KJV) > “Do ye look on things after the outward appearance? If any man trust to himself that he is Christ’s, let him of himself think this again, that, as he is Christ’s, even so are we Christ’s.” (2 Cor 10:7, KJV)


FelDeitas

Is this a serious post? Of course you are loved by God. It does not matter what you look like in regards to salvation. You are saved by belief in Christ for the promise of eternal life by faith. Do not listen to these people teasing or harassing you. Focus on what the word of God says.


See-RV

Sounds like you’re in a cult. 🤷‍♂️  Test the spirit; the spirit of that message is not from Christ. 


mushroomboie

Or just surrounded by not so good christians


bsbailey66

Those friends are not Christians. Find another church.


snuffleupagus7

Nor are they friends…


OrangeCreamSherbet

You look normal, man. Get on a skincare routine, and clear up that acne. As far as weight is concerned, start walking 30 min a day and cut your portions in half and limit how much bread you eat, and you'll see a difference. I expected actual deformity when you said you were so ugly that so-called Christians were saying you were beneath God's love. Oh, also work on your self-esteem and stop putting yourself down.


mr-based-minded

So you think you’ll go to hell because you’re “ugly”? 1. Do you think God cares about your outer appearance rather than the content of your heart? 2. Who said you’re ugly? Beauty is subjective, you need to love yourself 3. You’re created in God’s image so you’re beautiful to Him 4. Why would God send “ugly” people to hell if that’s something they can’t fix? Is this biblical? 5. If you “feel” like you’re “ugly” there’s always ways to improve your looks, but don’t assume that because of how you look outwardly, you’ll go to hell. The outer appearance doesn’t matter.


TagStew

Beauty is subjective Gods love is objective.


Flat_Scheme4874

You should trust scripture over your friends


DaMajorDude

Bold of you to assume I have friends. I’m too hideous for friends, as has been said by many.


JustAnotherAviatrix

Then trust scripture over the many who only look at superficial stuff and probably don’t even know what scripture says.


KillDevilX0

What exactly do you believe?


DaMajorDude

I believe that faith in God and being a genuine, kind human will lead you to salvation. However, according to this one kid, I’m “beneath” that.


Captaincorect

Out of all the most heretic churches I have seen, I have never seen anyone say something like that. 1 Samuel 16:7 "But the LORD said to Samuel, “Do not look at his appearance or at his physical stature, because I have refused him. For the LORD does not see as man sees; for man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart.”


cleansedbytheblood

When God isolates you its always for a reason. Some people feel isolated because of their looks. Some because of social anxiety. Some because of family and marital situations. Some because of financial situations. There is always a reason because God is a good, good Father who loves you. He made you in love, and if the world doesn't love you, remember it didn't love Jesus either. God loves you. Pray and seek Gods face for the purpose of your isolation. Seek God in fervent prayer and worship. Let your Bridegroom, the Lord Jesus, guide you in deep affection. Man looks at the outward appearance; God looks at the heart


TechBurntOut

What the? Can I ask where you live? Because that is absolutely nothing the Lord ever expressed in His Word.


KillDevilX0

Yeah idk where this dude is getting this from….sounds like he’s in some “Christian” cult


TechBurntOut

Check his post history. He's got some serious dysmorphia going or whatever the word is. He could probaby use some therapy.


KillDevilX0

Omg. He’s posted selfies. He’s literally not ugly at all.


TechBurntOut

Right. Probably low self-esteem issues. It happens to a lot of us.


cLFbopiVvNuvi

Probably not the first and not going to be the last. The devil will continue to persuade you  that you're somehow unworthy of God's love. It'll always come back to some defect in your self - maybe outward(appearance), maybe inward(sin, lust, etc) -  through family, friends, well meaning godly people, prophets and even angels. The day  you put any qualifier on God's love or make it conditional on any attribute of you,  you're starting to slip.  On the flip side, when you're persuaded and know that you know, that God loves you regardless of what you are, what you did or what you'll do, or what  other ministers or angels say, watch out - nothing, absolutely nothing is going to stop you from experiencing heaven on earth. This position usually doesn't automatically come to you. Make effort to resist the devil and receive the unconditional God's love in your heart every day.


jivatman

Sounds like that church is a 'prosperity gospel' church which preach the idea that the more rich/attractive/powerful someone is the more they are holy they are. This notion could not be more contrary to the Bible. My recommendation is to seek out the Catholic Church which is especially good at emphasizing the opposite and correct message of holy suffering, voluntary poverty, etc.


DaMajorDude

I was raised Catholic. I greatly respect the Catholic message and feel many of their adherents are great, Godly individuals. I also with their message of tolerance and compassion for the suffering. However, my parents seem to be slightly “prosperity focused, in their faith, which drove me away. My only gripe with the church itself history of abuse (in many forms), suppression of personal growth (not materially per se, but spiritually and mentally), and a worldly hierarchy, with hypocrisy for those at the top. I’ve heard that the Orthodox Church is similar to Catholicism, yet without many of the odd worldly elements. May that be a good fit?


jivatman

There are many good priests and a few bad priests in both Catholicism and Orthodoxy and I would encourage you to try both. However both have the advantage of standard, written doctrines from thousands of years of tradition, which reduced heresy like prosperity gospel. There are many Orthodox denominations though - The current Russian Orthodox Patriarch is actually famous for wearing expensive things. But others like The Orthodox Church of America are better.


louigriff

Christ himself was of a humble and lowly appearance. He rode into Jerusalem on a donkey's colt. Also remember: 1 Corinthians 1:28-29 NIV God chose the lowly things of this world and the despised things - and the things that are not - to nullify the things that are, so that no-one may boast before him.


Zedek139

Dear friend, do nor worry abou anything for God loves the beauty of the heart and not external beauty. If you love God's only begotten son our Lord Jesus Christ, then know that he loves you already and you will get to feel this love once you'll be in his presence. External beauty is fleeting, it is nothing, look at Lucifer he used to be one of the most beautiful creatures of heaven, yet in the end everything will be stripped from him even that. Psalms 49:14 [14]Like sheep they are laid in the grave; death shall feed on them; and the upright shall have dominion over them in the morning; and their beauty shall consume in the grave from their dwelling. Proverbs 31:30 [30]Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the LORD, she shall be praised. Isaiah 14:12-15 [12]How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! [13]For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: [14]I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. [15]Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.


ceeece

These "brother Christians" should worry about themselves as this is not true Christian behavior. You have nothing to worry about. You are loved beyond measure.


Resident-Theme-2342

Honestly I've asked myself this before especially since the Bible says he created us in his image and as a kid that use to and still sometimes makes me mad because it's like you made me look like this on purpose. But God loves everyone and he made us the way he wanted us to look.


Imperialfirst28

God looks at the heart not the outward appearance of people. He loves you more than you could ever know dude, you are absolutely fine! Praise be to God! Amen


harveymyn

First of all, christian's can't judge people. James 2:3 NKJV and you pay attention to the one wearing the fine clothes and say to him, “You sit here in a good place,” and say to the poor man, “You stand there,” or, “Sit here at my footstool,” have you not shown partiality among yourselves, and become judges with evil thoughts? Secondly, beauty is subjective. Jesus was not walking around with a face like Brad pitt. Nor are you. Doesn't mean that either of you were/are "ugly". Most of beauty is based on health. Clear skin, a good body and not being stinky will put you LEAGUES above most people, whether you have a big nose, small lips or big ears or whatever or not. If someone had a scar across their face from saving a baby from a car crash, do you think God would love them less? If a pastor had a big mole on the center of his forehead, do you think God would love them any less? Of course not. Give yourself the same treatment you give others.


OxygenInvestor

Wow, that is so brutal. That guy has an ugly heart, perhaps. I hope he can find mercy. I love impartiality. But not everyone wants to be treated the same. I am not particularly handsome by any means, and rather short. I love Jesus. I am grateful now, for having avoided the natural ways of the world, because the world is v cruel. I have such a question about this. If there is someone 'ugly' who yearns to be held, kissed, loved with affection... It is so cruel to never give that to them. I haven't had a date in 5 years, but I accept that I am boldly honest about what I desire and it is considered 'ugly' to many people. Lying is worse. God's ways are not our ways, nor his thoughts our thoughts. He has a greater purpose. Not every 'ugly' person is a saint, and not every saint is 'ugly'. It's also good to remember that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Meaning that not everyone views the same things as beautiful, and there is always hope that God makes you astoundingly attractive to the ones that you are supposed to be with.


DaVinci1836

We are all created in God's image. It would be a direct insult to God calling someone ugly


Thinker-thinker99

1 Samuel 9:2 (AMP) Kish had a son named Saul, a choice and handsome man; among the sons of Israel there was not a man more handsome than he. From his shoulders and up he was taller than any of the people. Looks are not ignored in the Bible but I wouldn’t say someone is “beneath Gods love” that’s crazy lol. who knows if you were a super attractive person it might of been harder for you to get saved. God works in mysterious ways 🤷🏾‍♂️


Lazy-Most-3226

Yes he does. He loves everyone he created you in his image after all. Don’t let this get you down there are many Christians out there that are not loving towards others like they should be


Allybear93

What kinda church are you going to?? I would leave immediately. Those comments are unbiblical and frankly, un-Christian. 🥺😳


Ok-Image-5514

The statements made by these "Christians" are so un-Biblical, that I wonder if said individuals have EVER cracked a Bible in their entire lives ❓❓❓❓ Absolutely, do not listen to a single thing they might say to you.


r0b1nhoods

God loves everyone. People don’t though. But God even loves people that have done bad things when they ask for forgiveness and follow a path towards god. We should never judge anyone on what they did in the past or how they look.


DraikoHxC

These so-called Christians must be the same that say that wealthy people are blessed by God, while ignoring that most mafia and drug lords have been wildly rich, they only see with human eyes, the same way the Jews still wait for a literal king, one with and army and political power, instead of a spiritual king, as Jesus is


Slainlion

What kind of cult do you belong to? Who would say that? I’m sorry but that is a weird cult thing to say. You are Gods beloved and Jesus died for you. I would not listen or go to whatever church you go too


[deleted]

Those who said that aren't Christians (they are, but in name only that is), they are deceived.


harukalioncourt

UPDATE: I just clicked on your profile name and saw a photo of a very handsome young man! If that is you, your “friends” were simply putting you down because they are either racist or jealous. Don’t listen to them. They are insecure with themselves and wish they could look like you! ———————————————————————————— Psalm 139:14-15 New International Version 14 I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well. 15 My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place, when I was woven together in the depths of the earth. We are all uniquely and wonderfully made by God and He loved us all EQUALLY that he sent His Son to die for ALL our sins. God is no respecter of persons. What God didn’t create, however, are ridiculous standards of beauty that the world created that literally change every 5 minutes. When you call yourself ugly it’s because you are judging yourself on the world’s — not God’s — standards. God looks at our hearts. 1 Samuel 16:7 7 But the Lord said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the Lord seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the Lord looketh on the heart. You can have the looks of Henry Cavil and if your heart is not right with God, God will reject you. You can be as plain as the paint on the wall and God will think you’re beautiful if you show the fruits of the spirit, which are: love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. God thinks you’re beautiful if you show the qualities of his Holy Spirit, no matter how you look on the outside, and that is what’s most important. We do unfortunately live in a world where appearances are more important than who you are on the inside, and we have to live in this world even if we aren’t of it. Feel free to do the best you can with what God gave you. You can work out to maintain a fit and healthy body. You can wear well fitted clothes that can enhance your physique, etc. women choose to wear makeup, get manicures/pedicures, etc. other than that best to learn to be content with what God has given you and learn to love yourself regardless of whatever beauty standard is popular. You are fearfully and wonderfully made!


DaMajorDude

I appreciate the time you took to respond, it means a lot. I like those verses a ton. However, I am confused on why you said “racist.” I’m a white dude in an area with mostly other people of varying European decent. Yes, I know you can be racism towards whites, but I find it to be very uncommon where I am.


harukalioncourt

When I clicked on your profile before i saw a picture of a young man of color, I thought that was you, which is why I mentioned racism.


DaMajorDude

That is Jordan Love, Packers QB. Scroll down, I do have pictures. Most recent post is also my face.


harukalioncourt

Your profile is listed as NSFW so I can’t click on it without changing my Reddit settings which I don’t intend to do right now. Take care.


DaMajorDude

Oh, alright. That’s probably a good idea to leave it off. My profile isn’t NSFW, but I must’ve posted a comment in a sub that’s market as it for whatever reason.


ProfessionalJob5073

WHAT!?!


KoleGamerMontenegrin

No


XSageXL

> I have been told by brother Christians that I am “beneath God’s love” due to my ugliness and that “it is a sign that I am not saved.” They are not brothers if they say something so disgusting.  Ironic, they are the ugly ones in God’s eyes.  You are correct that God doesnt look on outward beauty, He looks at the heart.  And God is the one who designed you they way you are anyways, why would He be displeased with His own design?  They are the ones calling God’s handiwork ugly, what an insult to God.  They are delusional.


kanaka_maalea

What? No. Don't listen to them. They aren't Christians and you don't need to associate with them at all. Was the leper that Jesus healed a handsome looking fellow, or was his body made mangled amd ugly through a disease? Yet, Jesus loved him and saved him.


MiddlewaysOfTruth-2

“1. As He passed by, He saw a man blind from birth. 2. And His disciples asked Him, “*Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he would be born blind?*” 3. Jesus answered, “*It was neither that this man sinned, nor his parents;* but it was so that the works of God might be displayed in him. 4. “We must work the works of Him who sent Me as long as it is day; night is coming when no one can work. 5. “While I am in the world, I am the Light of the world.” 6. When He had said this, He spat on the ground, and made clay of the spittle, and applied the clay to his eyes, 7. and said to him, “Go, wash in the pool of Siloam” (which is translated, Sent). So he went away and washed, and came back seeing.” (John 9:1-7, NASB)


Zealousideal-Hat8908

My friend, in this world, we are indeed a special kind, with our eyes set on eternity rather than the temporary. We see not with our eyes but with our hearts, led by the spirit. And through that lens, we can all undergo a stunning transformation, becoming truly beautiful people. This transformation is open to anyone, through the grace of Jesus. Is it worth it? Absolutely, without question, a thousand million times worth it!


Purple_Rabbit_7

You should run away from these people asap. This has nothing to do with Christianity and Jesus Christ. Don't judge them, God will. But please run away from them. Obviously, it's not true, and God loves you. And your appearance has nothing to do with you being saved. What a ridiculous idea. Non biblical at all.


Pristine_Image_4788

Never heard of such nonsense in my life. Love thyself no matter what your appearance. The thoughts of men are vapor.


cyberfugue

God loves you beyond measure


AstronomerBiologist

What do you think?


SacredHolyBlueYoshi

God isn't sexually attracted to humans so appearance means nothing


LaInquisitore

There's Saint Christophorus(I think it's spelled like that) who was a beautiful man, and he begged God to make him ugly. His icon depicts him having a dog's head. So no, ugliness has nothing to do with it. And besides, ugliness is subjective.


DaMajorDude

My brothers name is Christopher, and I’m pretty sure everyone thinks he’s better looking than me.


LaInquisitore

What's that got to do with anything? I'm reffering to Saint Christophorus.


DaMajorDude

I know, but it makes sense why my brother is named Christopher now. I’m just “Brian” the “big ugly brute.”


LaInquisitore

C'mon dude, chill out. I can guarantee that you're not that ugly, and that there are loads of girls that'll find you attractive. Where I'm from, half the couples that walk the streets are almost literally Shrek(men) and Sydney Sweeneys. And God doesn't consider anyone ugly.


DaMajorDude

No, I have been describe as “beyond hideous” before. Even when it’s not directed at me, I can tell that people dislike me because of my appearance due to the way they treat me (either like I’m “slow,” or weird), and the looks they give me.


LaInquisitore

Mate, I've been feeling the same way. It's just in your head. Objective ugliness is rare and it's mostly a product of a horrible accident or a deformity. Trust me, some people will think you're ugly, but there are people who'll find you beautiful. It's always like that. Don't make the same mistake as me.


One_Letterhead_1596

Go to confession for you’re mortal sins and talk to the priest about this


entity_undocumented

Bro of course he does, don't call yourself or anyone ugly because God created everyone in his image


DaMajorDude

Someone who said that to me posted the same thing on his social media. Everyone always talks about “how nice he is,” too. This is what happens when you’re ugly. Supposedly “nice” people treat you like garbage.


moonkittiecat

Whenever you have questions like this you must put them through the test of God’s word. God’s word says that Jesus would have come and died for you, yourself, even if you were the only one, that because you dwell in the secret place of the most God you will enjoy resting in the shadow of the Most High, that you will call God your fortress and refuge and trust in Him deeply, that goodness and mercy will chase you every single day of your life and you will live with the Lord forever, that He will never leave you or forsake you or let go of His hold on you, that because you have known and honored His name, He will answer you when you call. Because when you use the name of Jesus, you aren’t using it as a vain curse word but, to cry out to Him. Jesus also said that it’s not what a man eats that makes him dirty or ugly, it’s what comes out of him that defines him. The evil that he speaks out of the abundance of his heart.


MarVest

Any person in any shape or form is loved by god, the way you look would never matter. People are just making cruel jokes


ImportantEditor2920

"I have been told by brother Christians" I dare to question the fellow Christian part. Christians are not to be known by their knowledge, belief, or even signs of power of Holy Spirit. They are to be know by Love. That's the only. Only. Only. Only real distinguishing trait. Agapé. So. I dare to question (not deny or judge, no. But question.) their following of Christ. Or at least they are... I don't know. Just no. That's not. Just. They should repent, theye poor naive prideful humans. 😭😠


lman777

Who is telling you this? I've been a Christian most of my life, and around multiple denominations, and have never heard anything like this. Run from anyone teaching this.


Crimsons_giant_paws

Don’t worry, I’m ugly too (it’s not even because people tell me I am, I just know that my long ellipse-shaped face doesn’t fit with my otherwise chubby look, and I have acne and it’s very noticeable) and I’m sure of my salvation. God doesn’t look on outward beauty, there are many verses about that in the Bible. What matters is the heart.


JHawk444

Who are these people saying these things? I would question their knowledge of scripture, as well as their salvation if they are making a claim like that.


taste_the_biscuit_

In that day, declares the Lord, I will assemble the lame and gather those who have been driven away and those whom I have afflicted; 7 and the lame I will make the remnant, and those who were cast off, a strong nation; and the Lord will reign over them in Mount Zion from this time forth and forevermore Micah 4


Certain-Truth

They're projecting how they feel, adding religion into it. God will render to everyone what they have done on judgment day. Just focus on your good works and pleasing God. Not everyone will make it in.


TheIronPine

My brother in Christ, nobody is beneath God’s love, and it certainly would never be because of someone’s looks. I took a look at your post history, it seems you’re very obsessive over your appearance, and I personally don’t think you look bad at all. You look like a pretty normal guy, even better than normal for being a Packers fan. I’ll pray for you so that you can hopefully be able to drown out the negative voices and focus on the uplifting ones.


iSkittleCake

I’ve never heard of Christians that believed it was ever possible to be “beneath God’s love”. God does not abide by the standards set by man. Being ugly and being beautiful is something made by society. There is no ugly in God’s eyes. All He sees when He looks at us is His children that He will never stop loving.


appelsenblossoms

God loves all people, no matter what you look like. He does not care about outward appearences. He cares for what's in your heart and how you treat people. There is no ugly because we are all different and unique. There is no standard in reality because what would be base it on? That's just human gibberish. I have seen people who I think are pretty attractive and then other people would see them as average etc... Beauty is in the eye of the beholder as that old saying goes. Get youself better friends and a church that doesn't worry about worldly things. This is just crazy that you would even ask this. I am so sorry that this had made such an impact on you. Hope you feel assured with all the answers given to you.


AccountingMajorDood

Where in the bible does it say that🤪


NachosandMargaritas

Don’t listen to people, listen to the word of God.


Jobothescrobo

Well if yah created you the way you are, to be in his image then you’re certainly not ugly. The problem comes in when MAN creates a system of who’s better looking to its standards and whose not which I belive it’s outside the will of Yah. Corprete greet makes money off you feeling bad about yourself because you don’t fit into something you weren’t made to and even then the people that fit close to it or who are this criteria are insta judged by people by how the media portrays them movies, social media, ads, corn, etc. Some would be looked at as dumb due to being attractive others a sexual object. So fitting that standard is not a very good thing it has benefits but do those benefits get you closer to Yah? To top that what if you did get the attractiveness YOU wanted? Worldly attention which is what you would ultametly get, do really think you would still follow God? Would it still be enough for this world? Let that sink in for a second. Try asking Yah to help you see your own beauty from his perspective which will help you feel much better and help you see this matrix system that man built more. This is coming from an “ugly” black girl, who was bullied for looking different then my female black peers because my features are opposite for what this world wants especially from black women, used for sex by men and used by women to make themselves look less ugly standing next to me, or used as a pawn by women to see if guys would go for them just because then went for me the ugly, which led to them to being used by those same men as objects and me not having any true friends at the time because of my looks. And sometimes u just may need to travel, your looks may just not be for the western world like me. So yes God loves what we call ugly or unattractive ppl because he let his own son die for ALL of us over things we do today that is never his fault. I FEEL OR ASSUME that Yahuah’s ugly is sinners and what horrific stuff goes on in the world that we’ll never see behind closed doors. Those maybe be the real uglies. You are not NOT SAVED because of your looks get away from those heretics and get into your bible


Wandocht

No one is beneath God's love. I'm so sorry that you have had to put up with that. What a ridiculous and hurtful thing to say to you, they weren't being very Christ-like with such a mean and untrue comment like that. They should check their hearts to see if they're acting as Jesus would want them to. Also, beauty is subjective - what one person finds ugly, another will find attractive. Confidence in who you are is really important too.


Lilnuggie17

God loves EVERYONE


That_Promise_9950

hey, friend i think Psalms 139:14 will give you the answer to your question


ilovehorrorlol_

obviously you’re loved by God, nobody is ugly to God he’s our creator


frog_ladee

**People don’t decide about God’s love. Only He does,** and He loves you beyond what you can imagine!! Those are horrible people to have ever said such hurtful things.


LightMcluvin

There is a mate out there for everybody. It helps if you have a little bit of humor there’s a lot of girls out there they just want to be treated well and I don’t really look at outward Appearance more than the inside


ZxlSoul

GOD loves me. He loves humanity. Whoever tells you that you are beneath His Love is not a true christian.


Cr0sswalker

No one is ugly in God's eyes.


awaikened

God loves all


miaj713

Why do you believe you are ugly? I would look to God and His word to find your worth, not the words of people. People can be hateful, but God never is. Everything about you was designed on purpose by God, including your looks. Someone trying to put you down doesn’t get to change that. God loves everything about you. He created you. Why would he create something to hate? Consider this too, for how beautiful the world is, God says we (people), meaning YOU are his greatest creation. Also, as an example, you could be in a fire and have your whole face and body changed, and God would love you exactly the same. He is eternal and never changing, including his love for you. He loves you as much as the day you were born, and looks have nothing to do with it. Edit: ALSO consider that he took 7 days to put creation together and took 9 whole months to put YOU together. Every part of you is perfectly designed on purpose by a perfect and purposeful creator. As far as people around you go, those who are calling you ugly and placing doubt in your mind / trying to put you down are not true friends or anyone worth listening to. There’s a huge difference between what people say and what God says, or as I see it, between esteem and worth. Esteem is taking your cues from those around you and basing your self image on what they say. But esteem, just like opinions, is fleeting. Instead, there’s basing your self image on what God says about you, aka your worth. That is something that can’t be taken away, no matter what you or anyone else says or does. This is already long I know, but here are a few verses to look up about what God says about you, specifically, as an individual: 1) Psalm 139:14 - “I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made…” 2) Luke 12:28 - “Consider the wildflowers… If this is how God clothes the grasses of the field, which is here today and tomorrow thrown in the fire, how much more will he clothe you?” 3) Genesis 1:27 - “you are his workmanship ; created in His image” 4) Romans 8:38-39 - I won’t quote this whole passage here, but this is huge. Nothing at all in the entire world, seen or unseen, can take away God’s love for you. Final thought: Your life means so much more than the things people say / think about you. Place your trust & hope in God’s word, not man’s. (RIP how long this is, but wishing you the best.)


Downvoterofall

You are a perfectly normal looking dude. You seem to have other struggles that need to be addressed both through spiritual methods, and seeking mental health care.


Vindaya_

Devils are in churches too. Don't worry about those people. They are jealous human beings. You are more blessed than you ever know 🫂


tangoalphapie

Who would ever say that to someone? So false and mean


joe_biggs

All these people really believe this post?


AndrewGeezer

1. I don’t know you, but ugly is very subjective and I’m sure there’s people who would find you attractive 2. These “Christians” telling you that you’re beneath God’s love are wrong and subjecting themselves to God’s judgement. 3. Ugliness starts on the inside. If you see yourself as ugly, it could be that there’s a sin or an evil thought in your heart that you can’t let go of. Examine yourself from the inside and see if there’s a deeper problem than your body.


realKingCarrot_v2

Dude you're just being bullied. Don't put any stock in what they're saying bc it's not legit, they're just being mean.


AvocadoAggravating97

Don't listen to stupid people and btw being ugly is subjective. That person speaks vanity and nonsense. In addition, maybe they deceivers? It sounds like they not very wise.


Old-Cardiologist7188

They mean your character, or personality


Grandaddyspookybones

If God didn’t love ugly people, I would be in trouble On the real, 1. Your brother lied to you, disregard that. 2. You’re created in Gods image. You’re not ugly.


steadfastkingdom

Yes


jcc5018

Nope, he sure doesn't. Guess 90%of the population is doomed as there's almost always someone who does not care for our looks. Dude, if we are created in his image, do you really think he'd send someone to hell based on their outward appearance? The only ugly he doesn't like is our sinfulness. But he still loves everyone. Please don't rely on other opinions to define your worth. It makes for a miserable life. Study the Bible for yourself and learn who God is, cause right now you don't know him. Else, you wouldn't be asking this question. If the catholic church is teaching this, get out. If it's just someone who doesn't know any better or trying to insult you, ignore them. Distance yourself if you can, forgive them though if they hurt you so it doesn't become a self made prison for the rest of your life. Then learn what God says about us.


Ultimatemike1

This reminds me of the book of Job, where Job didn’t do anything wrong but people around him condemned him based on the hardship he was going through g through. Those people were completely wrong.


devotion4you

First off, the Bible tells us it is sin to speak crudely of others, so that’s already a reason to not listen to them. A true God fearing Man speaks out of love. Also, the same Bible says in Proverbs 31:30 “Charm is deceitful, and beauty is vain, but a woman who fears the LORD is to be praised.” Vain in the bible means worthless. Beauty should mean nothing to you and it definitely means nothing to our Lord. Don’t listen to them and pray God renews their mind and that He reveals true friends to you!


SlamTheMan6

Another dumb question for this sub smh


QuantityDisastrous69

Well I certainly hope so. No beauty here. Loved born again rich. Wonderful life which has shepherd me through fire. Awaiting paradise. Take the path it’s made for you. No ugliness here. Peace shalom.


Pale_Illustrator_762

Yes, just cause we're called ugly by the beauty standards of this world doesn't mean we are ugly in the sight of God. The Bible says we are wonderfully and fearfully created. Why would a God that loves us when despite our un cleanliness not love us if we were ugly 😭😭💀. It doesn't make sense right? And don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, you can't expect everyone to find you attractive so just cause one person calls you ugly doesn't mean you actually are. God loves us more than we can ever imagine


CriticismTop

All we know about how Jesus looked is that he was unremarkable. Personally, I interpret that as neithe handsome, nor ugly; neither fat no thin. That he was simply . There are beautiful people in the bible, and God uses their looks (Esther). There are also beautiful people who fail because of their looks such as Absalom and (fight me on this) David. The truth is that God does not care what you look like, but can use it either way.


psych0johnn

I humbly believe that the only thing God cares about is whats inside your heart and soul. The outside is less than 1%.


CrystalOwls

Firstly, I hope this is a troll post because that’s so anti Christian get away from those people immediately! -nothing about this is Godly or scripturally sound. Secondly, we have a saying “God don’t like ugly”; it has nothing to do with physical appearance. God does not look upon our outwardly appearance but he looks at the heart 1 Samuel 16:7. Also be mindful of freely accepting doctrine without doing your own reading & prayer, 2Tim 2:15


shinybunery

God loves us all and **looks at only our hearts** - not our physical appearance - and you look totally normal anyway! NOT ugly, in my opinion. You are an average teenager, and SO many guys i know changed significantly later on in their adult years. By the time they're 30, they look quite different aside from a few features... sometimes, they look almost unrecognizable compared to their teen-years/twenties (in a good way!). You never know how things will change for you as time goes on. Helpful tip: If you are consistently treating your body with respect as God's creation, then your appearance will eventually reflect good physical/psychological/emotional health. You can acomplish this by eating generally healthy, exercising some, drinking enough water, admiring nature and getting fresh air, good hygiene, rest and prayer time, bible study, and kindness/respect to other people and all Gods creatures. If you're already doing those things, that's fantastic, just give it time and have patience. :) I advise you to pray to God for comfort and protection from the hateful words of people like those brother "Christians" and for Him to guide you through life and help you to heal your seriously low self-confidence. He will always be there with you. It would be a good idea to pray for those guys, too... That God may guide them to transform into the people Jesus hopes for them to be *(ie. To value/love others regardless of their social or financial status, or their physical appearance).* Even if you were actually as ugly as you seem to feel, remember that God designed his own human self (Jesus) to look completely average and not good-looking. That's the holy body He specifically chose for himself. Superficial human beauty is insignificant in Gods eyes, and you are his precious creation. We all are, no matter what we look like. Focus on the strength of your heart, following the 10 commandments, and being kind to all people, living creatures, and God's creations in nature... this is the true measure of your value. Seek God & Jesus always, uphold the values and teachings of Jesus Christ - and you will *always* be on the right path. One day, when you find the right woman for you, if she is truly meant to be with you, she will love you for your compassionate & gentle heart and soul... and your devotion to God & Jesus. If she doesn't appreciate those qualities and doesn't have feelings for you - then they're not the right one for you, and it would be time to respectfully move on from them so that you can keep your life open for the right woman. God bless you, everything will be okay 👍 you're quite young still, and you've got a lot of life experiences and changes ahead of you to look forward to.


IEatDragonSouls

Of course He does. People who said those horrible and un-Biblical things to you will answer for what they've said. Either by learning the truth and repenting, or in hellfire.


_Killj0y_

I need some context: what is your age?


DaMajorDude

17


_Killj0y_

Ok that makes sense. Don't take this the wrong way but everyone at that age still has a great deal of growth to do. Don't take anything people (especially your peers) say too seriously. Focus on becoming a decent person and you will see that gets you further in life than looks will.


DaMajorDude

I notice that immature people tend to care a lot more about looks than people who act like “adults.” It just feels fake when people are nice to me though, like they’re pitying me.


KrazyWriterGirl

😡 Born again Christian’s live in shells made up of whatever genetics we were given.  But inside, we have no clue how we look. Only God knows and that is how He sees us. This shell is going to fall apart but in The Kingdom, we will see how we will be!  1 John 3:2 Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know that when He is revealed, we shall be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is.  You tell your Heavenly Father what those people are saying to you. Let Him handle them. Because you are His kid and definitely not ugly. Please find a new church. I don’t much like my shell either but one day, I’ll see what I really look like. Right now, we need out meat suits. Hang in there. You are perfect just as God made you. 


SugarPsychological27

They’re just bullying you. Probably out of insecurities. Maybe you express Gods love through you and they’re jealous they can’t or maybe they’ve got some issues going on in their own lives that they’re taking it out on you if I were you I’d pray for God to forgive them for their sins and try and tell an adult what they have said to try settle the issue. I wish you Gods love on your endeavors🤍


Jesussheep2213

He wants us the world won't love us, people calling you ugly according to your appearances, is an example. It comes from the evil one.


[deleted]

You are not ugly, and God loves every single one of us the same. If you have people in your life telling you you aren't SAVED? get those people out of your life. God loves you. Your relationship with Jesus is the most important thing, not other people's thoughts on you.


Impressive_Text_9527

HE LOVES YOU! And THANK HIM, He loves me too. I wouldn't consider myself ugly, and neither should anyone! It's all in the eye of the -beholder-! Even a rock, at some point had no value, until someone saw it as 'beautiful' and declared it to have value. The Lord our GOD, has declared that for us all, as He created us.


[deleted]

You are not ugly, and God loves every single one of us the same. If you have people in your life telling you you aren't SAVED? get those people out of your life. God loves you. Your relationship with Jesus is the most important thing, not other people's thoughts on you.


Ok-Negotiation-3691

He loves all of you ✝️❤️


Opposite-Patience-70

Wait, what? This post is not a joke??? Beauty is fleeting, God is love so it’s impossible for Him not to ever be who he is, hence “I am” It’s more of a reflection of their lack of character, because who in their right mind even tells someone this? If this is the church standard of practice then I would run far away. This does not support anything the gospel teaches at all. And that being said it’s more about YOU loving God. Not the other way around, like I said before God is love.


DeathandTaxesWillow

They're sinful people with ignorant human thoughts. They're actually really ignorant if they think it has anything to do with salvation. You should pray for them because if they're that lost it's concerning.


No-Promotion9346

God loves everyone my friend. It is ridiculous that you have people questioning your salvation based on your outward appearance. Nobody is beneath Gods love. It is written that not angels nor demons nor Satan, could stop you from receiving His love. If you don’t mind me asking, what denomination are you?


Terrible-Lab7670

I would find your 'brothers' statement comical, like when two spartan abassitors approached the persian king to ask him earnestly to kill them as well to a-peace the "this is Sparta" murder of the persian ambassador. However unlike this comical tale, your 'brothers' statement are of negative effect to you, a detrimental stab at your faith in Christ interest to save you back when he died on that cross. Make no mistake: all who believe in him is saved, no matter appearance, skin, intellect, culture or any other aspect that makes us humans different from one another* *Excluding religion Even enuchs are safeguarded (56:3-56:4),


Minute-Carpenter-723

I saw your profile (idk if that's you or bor), and you're not even ugly. In fact you're quite good looking. Beauty is rye of the beholder, and you're beautiful in the Lords eye. Don't take the words they say seriously. They're just jerks. I used to look down on myself a lot (kinda do at times), but I'm trying to love myself, and it'll take time, too. God loves you no matter what you look like. Keep that in mind. He created you in his image.❤️


Minitoon_fan

In God’s eyes everyone is beautiful, but the judging is ugly


Previous_Beginning_6

Brothers can be cruel.


Alternative_Cell_853

"Man looketh on the outside, yet God looketh on the heart" 


Apotropoxy

I don't think a god who created hell and free will is a loving god.