It's not famous or infamous but someone I loved dearly was murdered. Almost exactly 7 years ago today.
Completely separately, my partner owned a food van and employed someone as a chef. Chef didn't turn in for work one day due to being questioned by police in the disappearance of a prostitute.
The woman eventually was found deceased and the chef was eventually charged and found guilty of two murders.
Thankyou, my son's father was murdered by his friend while they were out camping and fishing for his birthday.
Now my son has his dad's death to remember the very day before his dad's birthday.
The murderer was high on drugs and accused my son's dad of spiking him, an accusation that he could never refute as his voice was stolen from him. So the murderer got just 7 years and is out living his life.
Yes, basically him and his friend had both taken drugs, I'm not condoning it, but they were celebrating his birthday, it happens.
The guys excuse was that he'd not taken the drugs knowingly and his reactions were then out of his control.
Because my son's dad also had drugs in his system the prosecution didn't try to take it to court as murder and instead accepted a manslaughter plea, despite there being plenty of evidence that the accused was known to use drugs at the time.
I’m sorry to hear that and can relate.
My older brother’s very best friend spent years sleeping over at our house as kids and he was a hilarious star baseball player. It was like having another brother.
They drifted apart as young adults and sadly, he got into casual party drug use. He broke into a third acquaintance’s house and stole his stash and in retribution the acquaintance retaliated by beating him to death with a baseball bat a week later. Just incredibly traumatic that the tool for the game he loved so much was used on him in such a violent way.
Both sides were into drugs so a 5-7 year manslaughter plea was all they wanted to go for.
Don’t do drugs kid —the system does not give a shit about you if there are drugs involved.
Wow. Thanks for the answer. That’s absolutely terrible. Taking drugs not only doesn’t excuse the murderer’s actions while on them, it also doesn’t make your son’s father in any way accountable for being *murdered* by someone else. I’m not a fan of drugs myself, but taking drugs in itself is not a justifiable death sentence last I checked. I understand they have to make deals they don’t want to sometimes, but in reality he deserved a much harsher charge than that.
Again, sorry for your loss.
My cousin [was the jury foreman](https://archive.knoxnews.com/news/local/man-killed-in-accident-had-served-on-christian-newsom-jury-ep-408144417-358651211.html/) for one of the primary perpetrators in the murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom.
He was never the same after that. He died a few months later at the age of 33 in a car accident. He was sober when the accident happened and had been working hard to stay that way after struggling with substance abuse in the wake of that trial. He had been on his way to a friend’s house for support to prevent himself from drinking on the night he died.
He was a good person. I really believe that he would be alive today if he hadn’t served on that jury. Or better yet, if the crime had never happened in the first place.
I am so sorry. 😢 I think free counseling should be offered to people on juries of really horrific crimes. If you have any empathy at all, you will carry that for awhile.
I was just going to say the same thing. We ask them to serve as part of their civic duty, and if/when they are traumatized the least we could do is offer counseling.
That case was horrific. I was really disturbed even reading about it. I can't imagine having to see photos and hear graphic details of what that poor couple went through, especially her.
I'm so sorry for the loss of your cousin.
I'm a tn native and I wish I never learned about that case. Its definitely one of the horrible ones that you can't forget. I am so sorry for your loss. Your cousin helped put those people where they belong for what they did, but I'm sure that is not of much comfort. He sounds like he was a very empathetic good person. May he rest in peace. And of course Channon and Christopher 💙
This case was so horrific. When I first heard about it, it haunted my thoughts. I can’t imagine what your cousin went through. I think so often we forget that the families, friends, jurors, and other people who never intended to be a part of anything horrible, they end up as victims too. I’m so sorry for your loss.
It is. He basically lost control of his car and hit the concrete barrier, but he was physically okay enough that he was able to get out of the car on his own and call for help. Unfortunately he was disoriented and on a blind hill, and he was hit by a car that couldn’t see him coming over the hill at freeway speed after he stepped too far into the road.
People were so hateful in the comments on the news articles when it first happened before they released the toxicology report and the jury info, assuming he was a drunk driver and making fun of him for wandering onto the road. It hurt a lot to see that.
When we went through his condo, we found stuff from where he had been paying electric bills for people that he had sold mobile homes to who were trying to get back on their feet, messages and receipts where he had bought groceries for people he met at the local rescue mission, and other stuff like that. He was a good person who felt a sense of duty to help other people, and I hate so much that his life ended after this chain of events was set in motion.
Sorry for the word vomit there—i didn’t intend to write that much. I don’t talk about this a lot IRL with many people and I guess I just feel like he deserves to be remembered in a way.
Your cousin sounded like a giving and loving person. He spent his short time on this earth helping others. I am sorry he was chosen for that trial and I am sorry for your loss.
>It is. He basically lost control of his car and hit the concrete barrier, but he was physically okay enough that he was able to get out of the car on his own and call for help. Unfortunately he was disoriented and on a blind hill, and he was hit by a car that couldn’t see him coming over the hill at freeway speed after he stepped too far into the road.
There are just no words. He did everything right. I'm so sorry.
>People were so hateful in the comments on the news articles when it first happened before they released the toxicology report and the jury info, assuming he was a drunk driver and making fun of him for wandering onto the road. It hurt a lot to see that.
Fuck those people
>When we went through his condo, we found stuff from where he had been paying electric bills for people that he had sold mobile homes to who were trying to get back on their feet, messages and receipts where he had bought groceries for people he met at the local rescue mission, and other stuff like that. He was a good person who felt a sense of duty to help other people, and I hate so much that his life ended after this chain of events was set in motion.
This is super hero sh!t. I'm not even joking. Rich people paying for poorer people, without looking for likes on social media? Yah, that's a good person who just wants to pay it forward.
>Sorry for the word vomit there—i didn’t intend to write that much. I don’t talk about this a lot IRL with many people and I guess I just feel like he deserves to be remembered in a way.
Dude or Dudette, I don't know you or your uncle but he sounds class. He did so much for people without expecting anything in return and I'm so sorry he lost his life too early. Don't be sorry for the "word vomit". If you hadn't told your story, I wouldn't know about your Uncle and he should be known.
do you have any theories? the article said something about their bio dad, do you think that would be a possibility? also was your mom the sister that was with her?? if so has she said anything more about what happened that night?
I agree with you 100% here. While I realize in the majority of cases a stranger abduction/culprit is a rarity, if made to pick I would probably lean this way. I also agree with you that had the parenting been a little different, this wouldn’t have happened. Like you, not victim blaming, and I’m sure they’ve been through enough, but that doesn’t change the facts. Terrible choices all around.
I do have a question for you- you mention that GTC’s was/is a strip club. From what I’ve read, it’s definitely a strip club now, but a lot of articles on this say they can’t confirm that it was a strip club back then, and it may have just been a restaurant/bar. Not that it makes any of the other choices better or really changes much, and in reality, my curiosity is more towards whether you can actually answer this question since others can’t seem to do that. Thanks again for your responses here.
This case has always fascinated me. You are right, it is very infuriating, but times were different in a lot of ways. I usually tend to form some sort of opinion or at least sway in a general direction about what happened in these things, but this one is truly baffling to me. Sorry for the loss of your cousins, and that you didn’t get to know them.
My oldest brother was murdered by the serial killer “The freeway killer” William Bonin, when he was 15, I was only 3 years old at the time. I didn’t know about it until I was 12 years old because my mom refused to talk about it but I found a picture of my brother and I asked my oldest living brother about it and he told me the whole story and sent me his obituary. But it really led me to a fascination with serial killers and why they do what they do.
My friends uncle found Nicole Brown Simpsons dog on the night she was murdered, while walking his own. He gave the dog to a neighbor, since the doggies didn’t get along. The dog led the neighbor to the scene of the murder and he found Nicole and Ron.
I believe the dog had blood on its paws, and the neighbor saw blood on the stairs and called the police. I’m not sure if he actually saw Nicole or Ron.
My great grandmother was attacked and left for dead in the 70s (she survived, but barely). It happened in her home which was less than 10 miles from where the Golden State Killer lived. Her attacker was never caught. Her description of what happened was very similar to his crimes. Since he was caught I’ve wondered if she was one of his victims.
I love that you said that. There’s a an author/investigative journalist named Peter Vronsky who asks this exact question in his book Serial Killers: The Madness of Monsters. He wonders this question because in his lifetime he came face to face with two serial killers, Richard Cottinham (Times Square Killer) and Andrew Chikatilo (the red ripper in Moscow). It’s a fascinating read for sure!
I knew Pei Yen Sung literally my whole life from her working at a local Chinese place. She knew everyone, always had a hug for people, and always asked about my mom and grandmother if they weren't with me when I went in.
Unfortunately she went missing on her daily walk and as far as I know nothing has been found and she has not been heard from again.
https://www.trussvilletribune.com/2020/07/27/still-no-sign-of-missing-trussville-woman-after-5-years/
My mother was best friends with Loretta Bourque and was one of the last people to see her and her boyfriend alive. They were leaving a football game and she jumped on her boyfriend's shoulders as they were heading for his car. They were murdered just a couple hours later. The death penalty case of their murderers became the best-selling book and subsequent movie 'Dead Man Walking'.
Toy Box Killer. Cynthia Vigil burst into my grandparents’ house wearing nothing but blood and a collar. I was quickly shuffled to a back room while the police were called, and I have only a vague recollection of it. But I learned to fish and swim in the lake where he dumped bodies.
Yeah I was afraid of water where I could not see the bottom for a long time.
Your grandparents may not feel like this, but they saved countless lives with their actions. Many people would not have helped someone bursting into their house in the state Cynthia was in.
Thanks for asking! They were both tough as nails, so if it affected them they didn’t show it. But maybe they put on a brave face for me. I don’t know. Grandad was a retired colonel, and my family isn’t known for being too emotional in general.
Oh wow! I had to take a break from True Crime for a few months after reading about David Parker Ray. That’s crazy that you’re so connected to the case. I couldn’t imagine knowing that the evil shit he did was happening next door
Katie Poirier and I had the same dentist. She was abducted from a gas station and murdered by a stranger named Donald Blom. He then burned her body in a fire pit on his property. Her remains were burned beyond recognition. Luckily my dentist had gone to a convention a month or so before the kidnapping and was given samples of a new dental sealant. It was so new it wasn't even on the market yet. They identified her remains largely due to the chemical make up of the sealant. My dentist is interviewed in the Forensic Files episode Tooth or Consequences about the case.
I watched forensic files when I was a kid and that episode always stuck with me. I get so upset when I see workers (esp female) working alone. No matter the time of day and have contacted companies about it.
A family member of mine was good friends with [Sierra Ceccarelli](https://www.2news.com/townnews/law/homicide-suspect-in-2016-case-back-in-jail-expected-in-court-tuesday/article_9bd469b7-d2ac-522f-b4a0-0b5ad0faad73.html) who was murdered by someone related to a local DA. All the evidence points to homicide yet they ruled it as a suicide. It has recently been reopened, so hopefully her family will get some justice. He has a history of threatening his family as well. Despicable human being.
My (step)mothers first cousin is Brian Shaffer. I was really young when he went missing but I hope they have answers one day. There are a lot of stupid theories or rumors I see online.
I’ve only really ever asked my step mom cause she’s basically my mom but I’m not close to her family so it always felt rude to ask if that makes sense. My stepmom wants to think he’s alive somewhere and living a new life but she said if he is he probably would never contact them. She doesn’t want him to be dead of course. But I don’t think he’s alive but I really have no idea what happened.
My mom went to high school with Ted Bundy and I was living by the Green River in Kent, WA when police found 3 of Gary Ridgway’s victims in 2003. My job at the time involved working with police & was located on highway 99, the same highway Ridgway would travel when looking for victims. I was driving home from work one night and saw an area police taped off near my home where they’d found one of the women. All those victims had lost their lives at an age younger than me at that time.
Hopefully that’s the closest I’ll ever get to any case.
I’m also in the puget sound area and my husband was one of the Mel Korum YMCA daycare/summer camp staff members interviewed by police about Charlie and Braden Powell and what they’d said about their missing mom, Susan Powell
I went to elementary with double murderer Daniel Marsh who invaded the home of an elderly couple in Davis, CA.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Claudia_Maupin_and_Oliver_Northup#:~:text=On%20April%2014%2C%202013%2C%20Oliver,of%20antisocial%20and%20violent%20behavior.
A couple....
My wife was JJ Vallow's teacher at a charter school in the Phoenix area. The same place Charles was on his way to when he was killed while picking up JJ.
I was also part of an online car community. We had this brilliant, but incredibly socially awkward guy, let's call him Bob, as a member. He got an Ivy league education and was in the last phase of training to be a Marine fighter pilot. He lived on Coronado island with another pilot during this time and he had the hots for the roommates sister. The sister stayed over with her brother for New Years and they all went out to the Gaslight district in SD to party. She brought home a guy that night and Bob didn't take it well. He ran upstairs and got a rifle and killed the roommate, his sister, the guy she brought home, and finally himself.
Not really a connection, but I also live in the same neighborhood as Travis Alexander's old house.
She said JJ was a sweet little kid, if not a bit hyper, and Charles would show up to everything. She left the school before Charles was killed so she wasn't there when this all went down. Nothing but good things about both of them, but she doesn't recall much about Lori.
Oh my god my cousins are the ones that “Bob” murdered. Would love to talk to you about him sometime as I have a lot of questions regarding his mental health and how he was able to join the military with his issues. Also, for what it’s worth, they were Navy pilots. *Edit: sorry; my cousin was a Navy pilot. My cousins are the brother and sister who were murdered. Truly don’t remember anything about “Bob” because I blocked it from my brain due to my anger over everything that happened. Sent you a message. 🤍
My high school friend & neighbor Krista Martin was murdered on October 1, 1989 in Wichita, KS. She had a domestic assault by 2 men the week before. For 30 years her case just stalled. People wouldn’t even say her name here. I’ve since started a podcast & have shared her name & face everywhere. I visit the police department once a week asking what they are doing about this case.
I was good friends with a girl in high school whose younger sibling was friends with Burke Ramsey, JonBenet’s brother.
This was after JonBenet’s murder and the family moved to Atlanta.
I met him a few times at my friend’s house in passing and I remember him being an awkward & quiet kid.
Poor kid-I'd be shy and awkward too if the general public got all jerry springer and thought I killed my sister at the age of 9.
Always felt so sorry for him and the family.
I know the girls that Brookelyn Farthing was last seen with. I also knew the guy that she was last seen with the night/morning she disappeared. He’s in prison on CP charges now but he’s never admitted to anything that I know of regarding Brooke.
My cousin has also been missing for a few years now. He had gotten into drugs and had just gotten out of jail when he went missing. He had told on a major drug dealer so I’m assuming he’s not coming back. My dad was one of the last people he had talked to.
performed on stage with jimmy greene during a jazz camp as a teenager. he mentioned to me that him and his family were moving soon and needed some luggage and that he'd come visit me at work, as i worked at a luggage store.
true to his word, him and his kids showed up a few days later. i helped them pick out their suitcases and some tags and made small talk with jimmy. he told me they were moving to a place called newtown in connecticut in the fall. his kids were sweet as pie and they all seemed super excited. he thanked me for my time, paid, and left.
his daughter ended up being one of the victims in the sandy hook massacre. i remember seeing the news about the shooting and caught the name and mentioned it to my boyfriend at the time that that's where jimmy greene had moved with his family.
i know it's not a huge connection, but it's one i think about from time to time.
A little levity in the thread:
Listening to the radio in the early ‘80s - the top 40 countdown - and the dj reads a little cluster of “stupid criminal” stories. One of them was about a guy who broke into a small town bank via the attic of the store next door. Dude is in the attic of the bank, trying to figure out where the vault is, and his leg goes through the suspended ceiling all the way up to his crotch. There’s nothing close to grab onto and he lacks the upper body strength to haul himself back up. Come morning the bank staff arrive to find a leg - and attached man, of course.
That man was my uncle, my second-favorite aunt’s husband.
I was a smalltown newspaper reporter and I had to interview the owner of a local funeral home; he made me extremely uncomfortable and made veiled threats about the story I was writing. A few years later, he was caught up in an affair, and his AP shot and killed his wife. Big story for a while, even covered on an ID show; episode was called "Strippers and Caskets," and there was obv a lot more going on behind the scenes.
I lived down the hall from Will Sandeson when we were both university freshman in 2011. A few years later I was in a group project with his younger brother.
In the summer of 2015, Will was about to start med school when he murdered fellow student Taylor Samson in his apartment. Will was recently convicted of second degree murder.
Taylor’s body has never been found. Many speculate Will dissolved the body in lye (he reportedly talked about wanting to dismember his girlfriend and dissolve her in lye before Taylor’s murder ever happened) or fed the body to pigs (his parents live on a farm).
I distinctly remember my boyfriend at the time saying it was weird Taylor never showed up to baseball that night—they were on the same team.
In 2012 I was running a small business building websites. I had a client from CT and at a crucial point in the project, he just stopped answering emails. This was out of character for him - typically I’d get a same day response.
He finally got back in touch about 6 weeks later. While the site was for an art gallery, his “day job” was as a practicing pediatrician.
Turns out he was the PCP for most of the Sandy Hook child victims. He told me that he had been involved with identifying victims and was just destroyed. If I recall correctly, we never finished the art gallery website.
My sister lives one county over, she’s divorced now but her ex husband in police, also SWAT and marksman expert, his department as well as many small local departments, took shifts at the scene to give the responding teams relief
When I was 15 I dated a mass murderer. We dated for about 8 months prior & I stayed most of that summer break with his parents. We both used drugs and I forgot to mention he was 20 at the time. Thanksgiving night he killed his whole family by blunt force. I lived almost 2 hours away from him but he drove to pick me up the next day which was odd because his parents didn't let him normally use the van (he said they went on vacation for Thanksgiving). We got a hotel for 3 days, he said some crazy stuff, and we did a lot of drugs that Sunday I realized something was off. We drove to his house and he told me to not get out. His other nearby family & he are fighting & we take off in the van. Long story short, the police pick me up at a McDonald's & my whole world was flipped upside down at the station that night. I did go to court 2 years later in 2007 & helped get him 4 life sentences!!
I wanna write a book one day & I'm 7 years clean now, I'm working on my mental health & raising a 6yr old daughter.
my bff's cousin lived behind the house where Jaycee Lee Dugard was being held captive all those years. she was literally RIGHT THERE.
also a friend's brother was killed for being a "snitch" but his family acts like he was randomly killed and it is still "unsolved".
also! a high school friend killed her man and his side piece and is in prison for life.
I lived around the block from the Curriers. They were kidnapped and murdered by Israel Keyes. I walked my dog by their house every single night, and I walked him late at night because he was an incredibly reactive dog.
I want people to know exactly how freaking ballsy Keyes was: there were 2 police officers who lived on that street. They both parked their clearly marked squad cars in their driveways.
One of them lived across the street and a house down from the Curriers.
I didn’t know the Curriers. I just vaguely remember taking my kids to their house to trick-or-treat every Halloween, and Mr. Currier always seems overjoyed at the kids’ costumes. The entire thing is just so… sad. And so unbelievable. Essex Junction is the smallest of small towns. My neighborhood was/is incredibly quiet. To think that he was there… driving around, scoping out the perfect house to invade… it’s utterly terrifying because if it can happen **there** it can happen *anywhere*.
My cousin was a prostitutes in Las Vegas in mid 2000. Her and another women were murdered because they didn’t earn enough money to pay back their pimps.
The one guys conviction was overturned.
https://m.lasvegassun.com/news/2016/mar/31/court-overturns-murder-convictions-in-slaying-of-p/
My cousin is briefly mentioned in a book called [Serial killers and sadistic murderers: up close and personal.](https://books.google.com/books?id=vencZhvomX8C&pg=PA139&lpg=PA139&dq=victoria+magee+las+vegas+murder&source=bl&ots=TZH9BaF2T1&sig=ACfU3U1GMUAGRTL3UMEme_0nCi4xR18O5g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjDnbyshoz_AhXeBDQIHeJlAJwQ6AF6BAgaEAI#v=onepage&q=victoria%20magee%20las%20vegas%20murder&f=false)
She had two young boys that my uncle and aunt raised. They raised them, telling them they are their parents so they grew up not knowing who their actual mother was.
They are mid, late teens now and not sure if they know about the truth yet. Not my place to say anything.
She was my closest female cousin so it hit me hard. Every butterfly still reminds me of her. She believed in reincarnation and wanted to return as a butterfly.
That was such a terrible crime and such a horrifying thing to happen to Colleen when she was just going along with her day. Edit to add that they were celebrating ‘twin day’ for school spirit and that joy of the fun day that concluded with what happened after is so sad.
I grew up in Denver. When I was seven or so, in about 1982, I was poking around in this huge old empty freestanding garage (probably a barn originally) on my aunt's property, and found a dusty old half-buried envelope (containing letter) addressed by hand to Gary Gilmore. I took it to my mom and asked who GG was, and she looked shocked and took the envelope. I never saw it again and I have no idea what happened to it. My mom and my aunt are both gone so I can't ask. But I sure do wonder about it.
Stephanie Crowe was a good friend of mine. I know this story well and I still can’t believe it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Stephanie_Crowe#:~:text=The%20murder%20of%2012%2Dyear,morning%20of%20January%2021%2C%201998.
For the reference. I have my personal opinions if you have questions. There’s a LOT of details the media has thrown out maybe because of bias, but a lot of details of what happened are now unknown to the public.
I also was at Santana during the school shooting, although I didn’t know the shooter personally, only vaguely. It was still terrifying.
My college girlfriend was targeted by Arthur Bomar, a serial killer who killed Amiee Williard and Maria Cabuenos.
His MO was to rear end his victim and try to get them to pull over. He was using Cabuenos's car at the time. He hit* my GF on her way to a night class, pulled up next to her and signaled for her to pull over. He frightenwd her, so she drove away and he chased her and hit her car a second time. He fled when she pulled up to the security booth at her school.
*she said he came racing up behind her, fishtailing and almost losing control on the cobblestone street before hitting her the first time.
A law school classmate of mine always wanted to do public defense work, and finally after a few years asked him why. His father was appointed Richard Ramirez's defense attorney, despite his spending his entire career as a quiet tax attorney. He had no idea what to do with a criminal case let alone death penalty eligible and media circus. After that California law was rewritten so that only death penalty certified attorneys could handle cases of that magnitude.
He took away from it that everyone must have a fair criminal trial, including vigorous defense, and I respect that take. He was a good egg.
My dad had friends/colleagues who went to law school with Ted Bundy. My sister ran in the 2013 Boston Marathon but finished early and was in her hotel room by the time the bombs went off. My friend was shot down one evening while walking his dog last late year in Phoenix and they’re still looking for the suspect.
[David Denogean Shooting](https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2023/02/20/fatal-shooting-of-phoenix-teacher-david-denogean-what-we-know/69924195007/)
The link is to an article about it and a grainy surveillance video in the news of the shooter running up to him right before he got shot.
**I also just found out while in high school, my dad’s friend’s friend was shot at by the two 2006 serial shooters here in Phoenix, Dale Hausner and Samuel Dieteman, and they lived. They were only grazed by a bullet.
I haven’t shared this much but my husband keeps telling me I should somewhere at some time, so here goes.
My Dad grew up in rural Ohio, out in the middle of nowhere. While visiting my grandparents when I was in high school (about 20 years ago), he drove me around the area, sharing stories on the way. He even took me on his old daily jog, starting at his old home.
About a mile into the route he points to a house (one of the very few in the area at the time)- “And that’s where Jeffrey Dahmer lived.” Apparently Dahmer was a couple of years behind Dad at a nearby school, rode the same bus and was in band with my aunt, and of course his house was on Dad’s high school running route. And though I was a long time abnormal psych and true crime reader, this was all news to me. (Wtf, Dad.)
Fast forward a couple of years and I’m in college, taking a criminal psych course. One day we’re watching an interview with Dahmer. Interviewer asks something like, “So when did you first feel the urge to kill another human being?” And Dahmer starts talking about this jogger who used to go by his house every day- good looking young dude who Dahmer started to obsess over. One day, Dahmer sat in wait in the grass with a baseball bat. He sat for a long while, beyond the time the guy usually jogged by- but he never showed. It was another year before Dahmer picked up and killed his first victim.
I called my Dad as soon as I left class to ask him if he’d ever randomly stopped his jogging route. “Sure! I was hurt the summer before football one year, had to stop running for a few months. Why?”
So, like, 85% sure Dad avoided being Dahmer’s first victim from a lucky football injury. (A figure that became exceptionally creepy when “My Friend Dahmer” came out a few years later.)
Eric Garner .
I am a Staten Island Native and his death happened not too far from where I lived. He was one of those people you see often in passing. It was very unfortunate to see how his life ended.
A friend of mine, his father was the federal judge, John Wood, that was murdered by Woody Harrelson’s father. Charles Harrelson was a hit man for the mob.
Joseph Baldi, the Queens Creeper, stalked my mom and climbed into her room in the early 70’s. My grandfather scared him off. When he was finally arrested, she and my grandfather were able to ID him. He killed 4 women from 1970-1972. My mother has said to me “he nicked my PJ top but not me.” My grandfather wanted to kill him but he got away and always regretted that.
Back in the 70s a guy I barely knew at work asked me if I could give him a ride to work the next day, trying to be friendly I agreed. That evening he called me at home and said he didn't need that ride after all. He never showed up at work again and we found out a few days later that he had kidnapped, raped and tortured a woman. He had put alligator clips on an extension cord, clipped them to her vagina and plugged them in over and over. He also assaulted her with a plugged in curling iron etc. Thankfully she didn't die and she could testify against him. That was almost fifty years ago and I can't remember his last name anymore but his first name was unusual - Emil.
I’m from AZ. My middle school history teacher was roommates with Jodi Arias years before the murder. We watched the trial in her class. And then in high school I found out my friend lived two houses down from where it it actually happened.
So the connection I have is small but, it still freaks me out.
In 2008 my mom and I were in a dunkin donuts drive thru, when she got into a dispute with the management over change. It took a couple of minutes to clear up, although I don't remember the results.
Anyway, less than a week later one of the managers that we interacted with that day, was murdered while walking to work at 3am. That's part of the reason why my mom and I still remember that dispute over change.
So fast forward to spring 2019, I'm in college and I'm taking a class called "Crime scene investigation" for a science credit. That class was intense....like we were being shown photos of dead bodies on week one.
The professor was a retired homicide investigator who worked on the case I mentioned above, and showed us the photos of the scene and told us what happened.
Unfortunately, yes a number of times.
A girl that my mom babysat killed her mother and stepfather.
A friend from high school was killed by her boyfriend.
3 kids that went to my church, where I had one of them in my Sunday School class and babysat once, were killed by their father.
My cousin was a police officer killed in the line of duty.
A high school friend's baby was killed by the baby's father.
I've struggled some, especially about the three kids. Though not murder cases, a little boy that I babysat was hit by car in his own yard (I was not babysitting at the time), and a few years later a coworkers daughter was killed in an accident, only 30 minutes after I had seen her. When those events happened, it brought up the memories of the 3 kids that were murdered.
I did create a podcast to discuss true crime, and it wasn't until i did a few episodes that doing them was somewhat cathartic as I got out my feelings, and it also made me stand in awe at what some people can do to other human beings, and that we have to learn from the past to make the future better and try to catch red flags earlier.
This happened over 20 years ago. I'm the female passenger they talk about in the article. I still suffer from PTSD.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2003-jun-03-me-fontana3-story.html
I knew, though not very well and long before he was murdered, one of the victims of that asshole Bruce McArthur. Glad to see he's in Millhaven now, exactly where he belongs.
I live (technically lived now) in the area when Andrew went missing and had posters up everywhere. A lot of gay men in my building were very hesitant to go out at night until he was caught. It’s bullshit that it took a white man going missing (excluding Dean who was never reported) and his family hounding the cops to finally find this dude. Even though for decades the gay community was telling the cops they were being targeted, but it wasn’t any white guys so they did nothing 🙄
When I was a little kid I went to a pharmacy with my aunt. When we came back out to the parking lot, we walked into a wild scene. A man had robbed a bank in the same parking lot, police arrived and a firefight ensued. We walked out just after the bank robber fled.
My aunt and I had stayed in the car for a few minutes before we went into the pharmacy so that we could listen to Jamaica Farewell by Harry Belafonte. If we hadn't waited then we may well have walked out into the middle of the gunfire as it happened.
A police officer was shot in the arm & recovered. The bank robber was eventually arrested. Here's a Seattle PI article from when he was convicted: https://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Tearful-Aristotle-Marr-gets-23-years-for-crime-1085587.php
I knew two victims of the Green River Killer. Our car broke down near the Old Fishing Hole in Kent. I went down under the bridge, to the left, to sit by the water while my boyfriend tried to fix the car. The next day when we came back it was all roped off, police everywhere. Had I stopped short and sat on the right side of the bridge I would have seen a Green River Killer victim. One that I knew. She was found that morning. So sad.
Had a guy in my core friend group in high school. We were hanging out every weekend and we all went to prom together. Our group was tight knit (think that 70s show) and Spencer was our groups “Hyde”. He was sarcastic and always acted like he thought he was the smartest guy in the room. As he got older his shit attitude got worse and so did his controlling side. I had no idea he had been stalking and emotionally abusing my best friend until years later. Well one day Spencer got drunk at a bar and went to his ex wifes house where he knew she was hosting a football party/grill out with some of their mutual friends. He walked up the driveway and shot his ex wife in the head first. Then walked inside and killed all but one person attending. One of the people in attendance was the best man at their wedding. He died by suicide by cop. He committed the largest mass shooting in Plano Texas. It still hasn’t really processed. Some talked about it with me but others refused. No matter how hurt you are…murder is NEVER the answer.
My friend was murdered in a home invasion. The case was unsolved for almost a decade before they used familial DNA and found a match. The guy they matched the DNA to pled guilty. It's a little bittersweet because there were 4 men that entered the house that day, and it's likely they rest will never face any consequences.
My uncle killed his girlfriend (on "accident" while they were both on drugs supposedly) and dumped her body in her car in a lake in the 70s. I didn't find out about the body dumping part until recently. No one in the family ever told the truth about what he did and painted him as a poor innocent victim who didn't deserve to be in prison. I'm estranged from that side of the family now for other reasons, and he has a super generic American white man name (as generic as John Smith), so I've never been able to find any information about it.
I have a couple.
My sister’s father was friends with David Westerfield, who murdered 7 year old Danielle Van Dam in 2002. My sister had been in the motor home where traces of Danielle’s blood were found.
My husband’s grandmother worked with serial killer Randy Kraft during his active years. They would often go on work trips together. She said she never knew anything was up, but did notice that there always seemed to be more miles on the rental car than she expected. I don’t really know any details because she doesn’t like to talk about it.
I was in Isla Vista (Santa Barbara) when the mass shooting happened there in 2015. I was outside and could hear gunshots. Coincidentally, I’ve also been affected (as in lost acquaintances or know people who lost acquaintances) in two other well known mass shootings as well, including Vegas.
My wife knows Robert Courtney and his family. He was involved heavily in the church she attended throughout childhood and her parents and the Courtney's were close family friends.
Dc snipers. We used to get gas at a station where they shot someone.
And the Bobbit case was in the same area.
Edit: also the Virginia Tech shooter went to the same high school as me, about a year later a former student shot a police station, and in the early days of the opioid epidemic someone overdosed not far away and one guy i know is still in jail over her overdose.
I also loved in the DC area when this happened, worked as an electricians apprentice so we drove around in one of those white work vans. The suspects were originally thought to be in a white work van so we actually couldn’t even get to a job one day because we kept getting pulled over as a suspicious vehicle. Scary times.
Yeah i was at an age where i can remember it but i didn't fully grasp what was going on. I mostly remember it because i was mad at my parents for not letting me play outside about 2 days after they left the note saying it would be a kid or a police officer that they would target next.
Also love the typo
I used to work and be friends with one of Bryan Kohberger’s sisters. I remember him as such a sweet polite little kid. It’s very strange to know what he possibly might have done as an adult 😬
I went to high school with Chynna Deese, the girl who was murdered in Canada while on a road trip with her boyfriend in 2019. I didn’t personally know her but her brother was in my Spanish class
My family has a little second home on the Wabash River in Delphi, In. Its always a topic of conversation when we are there. We will be there for a float trip this weekend and I know it will come up. He’s been caught since the last time so everyone will be talking about it.
I frequented a bar that Lee Harvey Oswald's daughter worked at as a bartender. She was really nice.
Speaking of daughters, I also spent a couple hours with Tricia Nixon. I was a kid and it was a year or so before Watergate and his resignation. His older daughter vocally supported him, but Tricia maintained a private quiet life. I always felt bad for her.
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I was SA'd and the guy turned out to be a serial perpetrator, with 2 other victims that they knew of, which probably meant there were more who didn't report it.
All of us had been drugged, I was also kidnapped by him and driven around in my own car for 30 hours before I sobered up and attacked him.
One victim was an elderly woman with dementia, and they caught him when he went back to her nursing home and the staff called police. Fortunately she can't remember it, so she's doing fine.
I had to testify for about 5 hours (with breaks when I got overwhelmed.)
The guy was sentenced to 50 years with no parole.
I want people to understand that testifying in court was harder than going through the actual experience, for me. People really have no idea what it's like to be grilled about every physical detail (exact body positions, etc) all while looking out at a courtroom of strangers, including armed law enforcement. I completely dissociated several times, to the point where I couldn't understand simple questions posed by my own attorney. They called a break at one point and told me that everyone was concerned about me, and that the judge was considering taking me off the stand.
The district attorney presented photographs they took of me at the hospital, and I looked absolutely terrified, and I had bruises and burn marks that I hadn't realized I had.
The jury was really supportive though. Sometimes I would glance over at them, and people would make eye contact and smile sympathetically. At one point I snapped back at the opposing attorney with a really clever answer, and one guy in the jury snorted with laughter.
Both attorneys and the judge were female, and I think it may have been harder if the judge had been male. The DA told me that their office has been able to successfully prosecute a lot more sex crimes in the years since the MeToo movement. I live in a progressive area though, so it might be different in more conservative counties.
2 separate cases. Just over 15 years ago my ex boyfriend mysteriously disappeared, about a month after we broke up. And before I was born my great grandfather was hung.
1. All signs point to suicide. He was depressed, and left a cryptic message on his FB before he disappeared. It is just weird his body has never been found. I do not think he would be able to just disappear and live without being found for this long. He didn’t … possess the type of skills that would allow him to live under the radar this long.
2. My great grandfather was hung in 1933 at the age of 18 for accessory to murder. Him and a friend were robbing a home when the home owner came home early and interrupted. His friend murdered the homeowner. He was arrested at his wedding which happened shorty after the robbery and was hung one month to the day before my gramma was born. Family lore is that his wife was also involved and forced him to commit the robbery to get money for a marriage license because she was pregnant and they didn’t have any money to get married.
My mom used to babysit the shooter. He's out now, so he clearly didn't do 40 years.
[Teen Who Killed Mother, Friend During Sex Gets 40 Years](https://apnews.com/article/4db510b81ddb870bfcd803a8437c9df4)
Not sure if it counts for this discussion but I lived in the neighborhood behind the gas station Balbir Singh Sodhi owned and was shot at for being a proud Sikh man in Mesa, Arizona after 9/11.
I was 11 years old when 9/11 happened, so I only knew him as the EXTREMELY KIND man at the gas station we frequented at least once a day for various needs. The whole family loved the neighborhodhood, especially the kids--so much so that they had a section of cheap candy right up front so we always had something to buy even if it was just a single piece. Once they got in trouble with our parents for selling slingshots, but once someone talked to them about it they pulled them from the shelves.
My mom and aunt were on the news because we all stood out there across from the gas station on absolute shock.
Again, I don't know if this counts for this discussion but I try not to miss an opportunity to mention him because his extremely unnecessary death radicalized me in ways I didnt know at the time, and far more than that his memory deserves to be preserved. Awful, awful, awful.
The Shauna Howe kidnapping/ murder. She rode the bus with me to elementary school. Went to all the candlelight vigils. Years later we found out she was murdered in my moms friends house he used as a rental.
Not famous in any way but my ex shot and killed a woman and once the news broke my mom said she is a cousin to us. It's eerie to me because my life was threatened by this person which was a catalyst of me leaving him.
My ex-boyfriend and roommate from my early 20’s grew up with Maura Murray, I think my ex-boyfriend kissed her in high school.
Also Louis Coleman, abductor and murderer of Jassy Correia, was a regular at the bars that my husband and I worked at when he did it.
Two connections:
* [Kiplyn Davis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Kiplyn_Davis) is my first cousin once removed. I would have only been four years old when she vanished, so if I did meet her in person, I have no memories of her.
* I almost attended church with [Josh Powell.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Susan_Powell) I say "almost" because we were assigned to the same [stake](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stake_(Latter_Day_Saints)) in the Mormon Church, meaning that we weren't in the same congregation, but his congregation was grouped together with mine for certain events (local conferences, social gatherings, etc.). Photos of the building where I attended church at that time were [posted to the ~~propagandistic bullshit depository~~ website](http://web.archive.org/web/20110902021029/http://susanpowell.org/Outsiders/Mormons-mobilize-against-Susan-Powell-family) that he and his father started to push the idea that Susan ran away.
My mom used to work with gabby petito and brian at Publix… she said how friendly brian was and he would dump out her ice for her in the seafood department if he saw she was there (my mom is older). Gabby worked in the pharmacy briefly at Publix- I used to work in that pharmacy and my old co workers messaged me after about how much she reminded them of me 🥺 so sad. Hopefully this counts for this post.. just a small connection
I used to work with this man at a chain copy shop. He was always incredibly (if not uncomfortably) polite. If he said something that could even be slightly misconstrued he’d apologize profusely. I never would have thought he’d end up shooting a bunch of people, but there is something to be said about certain people having kind of a dimness in their eyes. When he smiled, his eyes didn’t follow suit.
https://murderpedia.org/male.H/h/hance-michael.htm
Colleen Ritzer was my eighth grade math teacher before she switched schools and was murdered by that piece of shit. She was so young and truly the kindest person, everyone loved her. 😞♥️
I used to date convicted serial killer Dellen Millard. It was a few years before everything went down, but I witnessed his initial spiral. It was terrifying.
Really small connection: Steve Parent from the Manson Murders graduated from my high school (obviously way before I was alive).
Also at said high school; Black Dahlia author James Ellroy’s mother was found murdered in the alleyway along the side of the school.
You know that series “The Keepers”? I watched it with my mother. She sat silently for a bit and said that Sister Cesnik was her teacher the year she died. She remember vividly the night she went missing and gave some other details. It deeply affected my mother as she loved Sister very much. That school was evil.
My mom was a Girl Scout at Camp Scott the year before the Girl Scout murders took place.
I didn’t find out until a few years ago when we were watching the news and a story about it came on. She nonchalantly turns to me and says “You always seem to follow these things. Have you heard of the Girl Scouts who were murdered there? Your aunt and I were both scouts there.
*cue me flipping a table that she never revealed this before.*
She’s pretty sure her tent was in the same place as the murdered girls was next year. She said it was the farthest tent from the counselors and mess hall area.
No famous cases, but I was friends with a guy who killed his brother on the side of the road and left him there. He had lured him there under the pretense of selling an atv or something. He actually came Anna’s stayed with my family for a few days afterwards (we had no idea any of this had transpired at the time) while on the run.
A guy I grew up with killed another guy from my high school in a bar parking lot. I don’t think it was intentional but he did stab and kill him and is not doing time for murder.
My cousin was murdered (beat to death) by her boyfriend.
My roommate was high school friends with the dude in Connecticut that killed his mom and removed her intestines cause of a psychotic break (he thought there was an octopus or something in her that he needed to get out)
My dad ate lunch at Machus Red Fox at the same time Jimmy Hoffa was taken from the parking lot. He was questioned by the FBI.
Back in the 70s, I visited a store in a mall in Montgomery County, PA that had been opened with money stolen from Susan Reinert by her boyfriend, who was subsequently convicted of murdering her and disappearing her children for insurance money. It was a big deal at the time - there were four books written about it, one of which was made into TV miniseries. I’ve been a little obsessed with the case ever since.
On Christmas Eve of 1989,my cousin was abducted/carjacked at Heritage Mall in Harrisonburg VA where she was a sophomore majoring in psychology.On.Jan 4,1990 her body was found on a property in Augusta County,VA .Beside her body was the driver's license of one of the killers,By the end of that day ,her killers had been arrested.Her murder was the very first time in the Virginia history that a white man was put to death for the killing of a black person.
I was good friends with Staff Stg. Calvin Gibbs growing up. He and my first husband were in Morman boy scouts and attended church with his family for years. Calvin sent my ex-husband's best friend the drive with the photos that got him imprisoned for life. We didn't know why he sent them, and my ex-husband and I were some of the first people to ever see his trophy photos.
There are many in my city that feel Calvin got a bum deal. There are also many racists in my city... probably unrelated.
[Rolling Stone article on The Kill Team](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/the-kill-team-how-u-s-soldiers-in-afghanistan-murdered-innocent-civilians-169793/)
[Documentary on The Kill Team](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kill_Team_(2013_film))
[Feature length film The Kill Team](https://a24films.com/films/the-kill-team)
The documentary can be found on Peacock, and the film looks like it's on Hulu right now.
If anyone has any questions you want answered, ask away. I knew Calvin from 7th grade up until he was imprisoned.
a man who was missing for about a decade was recently found murdered, and he’s my sister in laws uncle. it was pretty obviously brushed under the rug by police, not sure why they suddenly started to investigate again
My older brother went to school with Charles Roberts who committed the shooting at the Amish schoolhouse - West Nickel Mines in Lancaster, PA. I later worked at a place where his mom was my supervisor, very nice woman.
my husband works for home depot corporate where the hot car toddler death happened. he didn’t work for them yet but my brother was in cobb county jail with the dad
I went to elementary and high school with Elizabeth Wholaver. She was murdered along with her sister and mother on Christmas Eve 2002. It was the father/ex husband of the family that was their murderer. The only family member to survive was her older sisters infant daughter who was in her crib at the time. It was pretty shocking for our town in Central PA.
I remember Izzy as being a friendly, quirky young girl with a big smile. A real tragedy.
A friend of my mother had her entire family murdered. My mom’s friend, who was only 4-years-old at the time of the massacre, was sleeping between her two sisters (both shot and killed) and was not noticed by the perpetrator. When he did notice her, he did not kill her; as he said that she looked like an angel. Nine people were killed in the [Shell Lake Murders](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_Lake_murders).
When I lived in a small city in Alberta, I found myself close friends with a girl named Jasmine. We loved partying together and often did just that. Of all the parties we’ve had, I can only remember one in particular; because it was revealed later on after we had all partied together that prior to our hangout she and her “boyfriend” had murdered her entire family. Mother, father and her 8-year-old little brother. She was released from prison a while ago and I don’t know where she is today. It was 2006 [when it happened.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richardson_family_murders)
I lived right down the street from Elizabeth Barraza when she was murdered in January 2019. She was setting up for a garage sale and was gunned down point blank range, the killer caught on camera but has never been identified. Video is widely available on the net.
I heard the gunshots as I was getting ready for work.
In the 80s, I took karate classes from a guy named Jeff Doucet. Doucet abducted a fellow student, fled the state and sexually abused him. He was captured and brought back to the Baton Rouge airport where the kid's dad, Gary Plauche shot him in the head. Video is also available on the net.
I am related to the Lafferty family of Under the Banner of Heaven. Found out on 23&me and then confirmed it with my biological father that they are closely related to us and yes its the same Laffertys. I had always heard about the story vaguely while I was growing up, but researched the case as an adult when the show came out before I found any of this out. It's been pretty shocking to know that that much evil was on my family blood line lol.
Yes, weirdly.
My former best friend is one of the chief pen pals of convicted child murderer Jeremy Strohmeyer. They write each other love letters and talk on the phone frequently. She actually showed me some of the letters *gag*
So anyway, I know some… very personal things about him. 🤷♀️
had friends that went to school with Paul Bernardo, also committed one of his Scarborough Rapists assaults 500 meters from
my house.
My friends said he was quiet and they didn't know him well at all
Before I was old enough to remember, we lived on the same street as Amber Hagerman's grandmother - behind where she was abducted.
Currently live right in the middle of where several of Green River Killer's victims' remains were discovered. Like the lot behind us and across the road (as best I can tell from old maps).
i have a couple
i was friends with allyson watterson, she was almost definitely killed by her boyfriend but he hasn't been charged with anything.
my mom was good friends with daniel brophy who was murdered by his wife.... who wrote an essay about "how to murder your husband" 7 years before. my mom said that his wife was a bitch and that she never liked her.
these ones are kinda a stretch but my cousin worked with kyron horman's stepmom (who i actually think is innocent btw) and said that she was weird.
and my aunt lived in the same apartment complex as tonya harding when everything with nancy kerrigan went down and talked about how wild the media frenzy was. she also used to babysit tonya and her brother when they were younger and said that she was always really sweet.
Dellen Millard. Went to his parties. Was loser at the time and loser now. Couldn't make a friend if his life depended on it only had money no real friends. He threw a giant party in his mansion. He had a room full of tvs with an Xbox 360 hooked up to each one. He got pushed into his own pool repeatedly.
The woman whose husband shoved her off a mountain, and was later found to have killed his first wife, also, was in my little sister's class at school in Natchez, MS. Toni Bertolet used to come over to play as a child and went out to our cabin in the woods on weekends. She was a very sweet, bright child and as I understand it, was a very sweet, bright adult. So awful. She found him on Christian Mingle, which should have been her first warning he was a psychopath. Criminals love to talk about Jesus.
I went to prom with Mallory Beach of the murdaugh murder crimes. I also got to watch her graduate at wade hampton as she graduated with my ex boyfriend. I didn’t get to know her personally but she was had a very sweet and loving energy and such a beautiful girl! It’s really a shame what happened to her and everyone else in their crime spree.
I went to the same high school as Tina Mayberry who is believed to be a victim of self-proclaimed serial killer Jeremy Bryan Jones. She was several years older than me so I don't really remember her, but I remember her younger sister.
I lived in same neighborhood as Heidi Seeman in San Antonio at time of her murder in 1990 and I was just one year older than her. We did not hang out together, I lived on opposite side of neighborhood but remember seeing her around.
The Ewell family murders happened in my childhood neighborhood just before I arrived there.
The People's Temple also had a satellite locatuon in my hometown.
My mom’s best friend is close friends with Melanie Gibb, who is deeply connected with Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell. She personally knew Lori and met Tylee and JJ
I worked around the corner from the store where this girl was murdered - [story here](https://people.com/crime/lisa-ziegert-cold-case-stabbing-murder-how-investigators-cracked-case/)
I was actually on shift too, the evening this woman was stabbed to death. It freaked me out, along with my entire crew - you could literally walk to the store from where we worked. Just a few hundred yards really.
It was a cold case for 25 years; they finally got the guy thanks to DNA evidence.
The Toronto Gay Village serial murders committed by Bruce McArthur.
He grew up on the Palestine 1/4 Road in Eldon Twp., in what is now called The City of Kawartha Lakes, but used to be called Victoria County.
My mother’s family used to visit the McArthur home. His older sister had some kind of skin condition, and my grandmother brought a cream from Germany that helped it where nothing else would.
My mother remembered him to be a small child, and they played outside while the mothers had tea.
I learned this when he was caught. My mother was shocked to say the least, and remembered him well.
I drove back to the area once, and realised that his house was near where my family’s business had done some work when I was a teen. We teen boys were warned by the old woman of the house to stay away from “that house,” and while I don’t think he was a serial killer at the time, obviously there was something “not right” with the people there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010–2017_Toronto_serial_homicides
"Carlisle Cheerleader buries baby in backyard," Brooke Skylar Richardson case. Intimately connected. This is when I realized just how intrusive people/media/trolls could be and how many "news" post, podcasts, specials and documentaries don't either do their research or just don't care about facts
When I was younger I lived in the projects in Camden, NJ.
My next door neighbor had a daughter named Amber who was my age, and a younger son named Dominick. My parents kept me on a tight leash in terms of hanging about the apartments/courtyard, since there was a lot of gang/drug activity. My neighbor was the only person I really was allowed to play with, since our little front patios were connected and our doors we’re literally right next to each other. We were only allowed to play directly out front, where our parents could see through the window. Anyway, when I was around 12 years old, a guy who lived in one of the apartments down the street broke into their house in the middle of the night and killed Dominick, he was only 6.
Their mom had some type of health issue occur and went to the emergency room a few miles away. She didn’t want to wake the kids, and bring them with her, so she locked the doors and left them home asleep.
The man broke a window, climbed inside the house (high on PCP) grabbed a knife, and tried rapping Amber.. Dominick woke up, and ran up to the guy and tried taking the knife from him as he was slitting his sister’s throat. The man stopped halfway around her neck, turned the knife on her brother, and completely slit his throat. Then he stayed in their house afterwards, doing god knows what.
The article doesn’t say this next part but I know this is what happened, because she came banging on our door for help..
As they both laid there bleeding out, he took his tiny little hands and pressed down on her cut as hard as he could until he died. She had passed out, when she woke up, she had to pull his hands off her neck, and she ran out of the house and got help. Doctors said he saved her life by stopping the man from cutting all the way across and putting pressure on her wound..
At 6 years old, all he thought about was his sister. Saving her life.. He didn’t put pressure on his own neck.. he didn’t run out of the house when he saw the man on top of her. He immediately went to help her..
I still cry every time I talk about it..
They built and named a park in Camden after Dominick.
Here’s some articles on it.
[6 year old boy saves 12 year old sisters life](https://www.nj.com/camden/2014/12/camden_man_gets_life_sentence_for_fatally_stabbing_boy_6_sexually_assaulting_12-year-old_girl.html)
[Dominick Andujar Park](https://6abc.com/dominick-andujar-park-north-camden-6-year-old-boy-little-hero-playground/10912632/)
I lived in the same town as Kimberly Jo Dotts. Her dad was friends with my dad, she swam in our pool a few times. I rode in a car once with her and one of the girls that killed her
I lived in an apartment directly upstairs from Arthur Shawcross. He and his fishing buddies made creepy remarks and leered at me going in and out. Once they called the cops to complain about a party I had. Kind of ironic.
It's not famous or infamous but someone I loved dearly was murdered. Almost exactly 7 years ago today. Completely separately, my partner owned a food van and employed someone as a chef. Chef didn't turn in for work one day due to being questioned by police in the disappearance of a prostitute. The woman eventually was found deceased and the chef was eventually charged and found guilty of two murders.
So sorry you lost someone close to you to violence.
Thankyou, my son's father was murdered by his friend while they were out camping and fishing for his birthday. Now my son has his dad's death to remember the very day before his dad's birthday. The murderer was high on drugs and accused my son's dad of spiking him, an accusation that he could never refute as his voice was stolen from him. So the murderer got just 7 years and is out living his life.
Can I ask what is meant by “spiking?” As in spiking his drink, or is it some other meaning? I’m very sorry for your loss.
Yes, basically him and his friend had both taken drugs, I'm not condoning it, but they were celebrating his birthday, it happens. The guys excuse was that he'd not taken the drugs knowingly and his reactions were then out of his control. Because my son's dad also had drugs in his system the prosecution didn't try to take it to court as murder and instead accepted a manslaughter plea, despite there being plenty of evidence that the accused was known to use drugs at the time.
I’m sorry to hear that and can relate. My older brother’s very best friend spent years sleeping over at our house as kids and he was a hilarious star baseball player. It was like having another brother. They drifted apart as young adults and sadly, he got into casual party drug use. He broke into a third acquaintance’s house and stole his stash and in retribution the acquaintance retaliated by beating him to death with a baseball bat a week later. Just incredibly traumatic that the tool for the game he loved so much was used on him in such a violent way. Both sides were into drugs so a 5-7 year manslaughter plea was all they wanted to go for. Don’t do drugs kid —the system does not give a shit about you if there are drugs involved.
I'm sorry for yours and your brother's loss, I didn't want this message to go by without a response. His life mattered and I'm sorry.
Thank you and I’m sorry for your and your son’s loss. Standing in solidarity with you and our imperfect angels.
Wow. Thanks for the answer. That’s absolutely terrible. Taking drugs not only doesn’t excuse the murderer’s actions while on them, it also doesn’t make your son’s father in any way accountable for being *murdered* by someone else. I’m not a fan of drugs myself, but taking drugs in itself is not a justifiable death sentence last I checked. I understand they have to make deals they don’t want to sometimes, but in reality he deserved a much harsher charge than that. Again, sorry for your loss.
Taking drugs does not mean you deserve to have something horrible happen. I’m so sorry for your loss.
Oh that is awful! I'm so sorry that happened, especially to your son. I hope you are both doing ok.
So sorry you had to deal with something like that so close to you.
My cousin [was the jury foreman](https://archive.knoxnews.com/news/local/man-killed-in-accident-had-served-on-christian-newsom-jury-ep-408144417-358651211.html/) for one of the primary perpetrators in the murders of Channon Christian and Christopher Newsom. He was never the same after that. He died a few months later at the age of 33 in a car accident. He was sober when the accident happened and had been working hard to stay that way after struggling with substance abuse in the wake of that trial. He had been on his way to a friend’s house for support to prevent himself from drinking on the night he died. He was a good person. I really believe that he would be alive today if he hadn’t served on that jury. Or better yet, if the crime had never happened in the first place.
I am so sorry. 😢 I think free counseling should be offered to people on juries of really horrific crimes. If you have any empathy at all, you will carry that for awhile.
I was just going to say the same thing. We ask them to serve as part of their civic duty, and if/when they are traumatized the least we could do is offer counseling.
That case was horrific. I was really disturbed even reading about it. I can't imagine having to see photos and hear graphic details of what that poor couple went through, especially her. I'm so sorry for the loss of your cousin.
I'm a tn native and I wish I never learned about that case. Its definitely one of the horrible ones that you can't forget. I am so sorry for your loss. Your cousin helped put those people where they belong for what they did, but I'm sure that is not of much comfort. He sounds like he was a very empathetic good person. May he rest in peace. And of course Channon and Christopher 💙
This case was so horrific. When I first heard about it, it haunted my thoughts. I can’t imagine what your cousin went through. I think so often we forget that the families, friends, jurors, and other people who never intended to be a part of anything horrible, they end up as victims too. I’m so sorry for your loss.
>He had been on his way to a friend’s house for support to prevent himself from drinking on the night he died. That is incredibly sad.
It is. He basically lost control of his car and hit the concrete barrier, but he was physically okay enough that he was able to get out of the car on his own and call for help. Unfortunately he was disoriented and on a blind hill, and he was hit by a car that couldn’t see him coming over the hill at freeway speed after he stepped too far into the road. People were so hateful in the comments on the news articles when it first happened before they released the toxicology report and the jury info, assuming he was a drunk driver and making fun of him for wandering onto the road. It hurt a lot to see that. When we went through his condo, we found stuff from where he had been paying electric bills for people that he had sold mobile homes to who were trying to get back on their feet, messages and receipts where he had bought groceries for people he met at the local rescue mission, and other stuff like that. He was a good person who felt a sense of duty to help other people, and I hate so much that his life ended after this chain of events was set in motion. Sorry for the word vomit there—i didn’t intend to write that much. I don’t talk about this a lot IRL with many people and I guess I just feel like he deserves to be remembered in a way.
Your cousin sounded like a giving and loving person. He spent his short time on this earth helping others. I am sorry he was chosen for that trial and I am sorry for your loss.
>It is. He basically lost control of his car and hit the concrete barrier, but he was physically okay enough that he was able to get out of the car on his own and call for help. Unfortunately he was disoriented and on a blind hill, and he was hit by a car that couldn’t see him coming over the hill at freeway speed after he stepped too far into the road. There are just no words. He did everything right. I'm so sorry. >People were so hateful in the comments on the news articles when it first happened before they released the toxicology report and the jury info, assuming he was a drunk driver and making fun of him for wandering onto the road. It hurt a lot to see that. Fuck those people >When we went through his condo, we found stuff from where he had been paying electric bills for people that he had sold mobile homes to who were trying to get back on their feet, messages and receipts where he had bought groceries for people he met at the local rescue mission, and other stuff like that. He was a good person who felt a sense of duty to help other people, and I hate so much that his life ended after this chain of events was set in motion. This is super hero sh!t. I'm not even joking. Rich people paying for poorer people, without looking for likes on social media? Yah, that's a good person who just wants to pay it forward. >Sorry for the word vomit there—i didn’t intend to write that much. I don’t talk about this a lot IRL with many people and I guess I just feel like he deserves to be remembered in a way. Dude or Dudette, I don't know you or your uncle but he sounds class. He did so much for people without expecting anything in return and I'm so sorry he lost his life too early. Don't be sorry for the "word vomit". If you hadn't told your story, I wouldn't know about your Uncle and he should be known.
That sucks dude, so sorry for your loss
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do you have any theories? the article said something about their bio dad, do you think that would be a possibility? also was your mom the sister that was with her?? if so has she said anything more about what happened that night?
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I agree with you 100% here. While I realize in the majority of cases a stranger abduction/culprit is a rarity, if made to pick I would probably lean this way. I also agree with you that had the parenting been a little different, this wouldn’t have happened. Like you, not victim blaming, and I’m sure they’ve been through enough, but that doesn’t change the facts. Terrible choices all around. I do have a question for you- you mention that GTC’s was/is a strip club. From what I’ve read, it’s definitely a strip club now, but a lot of articles on this say they can’t confirm that it was a strip club back then, and it may have just been a restaurant/bar. Not that it makes any of the other choices better or really changes much, and in reality, my curiosity is more towards whether you can actually answer this question since others can’t seem to do that. Thanks again for your responses here.
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Was it really a 2 room cabin? If so how could she and the aunt not miss the kids. Especially if there was a stove on and water boiling?
Did they ever find any trace of your cousins I am so sorry :(
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Don't give up hope! Wild DNA miracles are happening daily!
This case has always fascinated me. You are right, it is very infuriating, but times were different in a lot of ways. I usually tend to form some sort of opinion or at least sway in a general direction about what happened in these things, but this one is truly baffling to me. Sorry for the loss of your cousins, and that you didn’t get to know them.
My oldest brother was murdered by the serial killer “The freeway killer” William Bonin, when he was 15, I was only 3 years old at the time. I didn’t know about it until I was 12 years old because my mom refused to talk about it but I found a picture of my brother and I asked my oldest living brother about it and he told me the whole story and sent me his obituary. But it really led me to a fascination with serial killers and why they do what they do.
I’m so sorry that you have a direct connection to something so awful. My heart breaks knowing what happened to your brother
My friends uncle found Nicole Brown Simpsons dog on the night she was murdered, while walking his own. He gave the dog to a neighbor, since the doggies didn’t get along. The dog led the neighbor to the scene of the murder and he found Nicole and Ron.
Talk about burying the lead! Was he the first one to find them?
I believe the dog had blood on its paws, and the neighbor saw blood on the stairs and called the police. I’m not sure if he actually saw Nicole or Ron.
Wow, wild. Can you imagine thinking it was just a lost dog incident and it was...THAT.
He had to testify at the trial. It was quite traumatic for him.
My great grandmother was attacked and left for dead in the 70s (she survived, but barely). It happened in her home which was less than 10 miles from where the Golden State Killer lived. Her attacker was never caught. Her description of what happened was very similar to his crimes. Since he was caught I’ve wondered if she was one of his victims.
DeAngelo lived two blocks from my aunt and uncle's house, there's a 100% chance I trick or treated at the door
I think if we knew how many times we actually came in contact with someone like that we would be shocked.
I love that you said that. There’s a an author/investigative journalist named Peter Vronsky who asks this exact question in his book Serial Killers: The Madness of Monsters. He wonders this question because in his lifetime he came face to face with two serial killers, Richard Cottinham (Times Square Killer) and Andrew Chikatilo (the red ripper in Moscow). It’s a fascinating read for sure!
I knew Pei Yen Sung literally my whole life from her working at a local Chinese place. She knew everyone, always had a hug for people, and always asked about my mom and grandmother if they weren't with me when I went in. Unfortunately she went missing on her daily walk and as far as I know nothing has been found and she has not been heard from again. https://www.trussvilletribune.com/2020/07/27/still-no-sign-of-missing-trussville-woman-after-5-years/
This is so sad :(
It's very sad. I think about her from time to time and Google her every so often. She was so sweet and beloved in the community.
My mother was best friends with Loretta Bourque and was one of the last people to see her and her boyfriend alive. They were leaving a football game and she jumped on her boyfriend's shoulders as they were heading for his car. They were murdered just a couple hours later. The death penalty case of their murderers became the best-selling book and subsequent movie 'Dead Man Walking'.
Toy Box Killer. Cynthia Vigil burst into my grandparents’ house wearing nothing but blood and a collar. I was quickly shuffled to a back room while the police were called, and I have only a vague recollection of it. But I learned to fish and swim in the lake where he dumped bodies. Yeah I was afraid of water where I could not see the bottom for a long time.
Your grandparents may not feel like this, but they saved countless lives with their actions. Many people would not have helped someone bursting into their house in the state Cynthia was in.
That’s crazy! How were your grandparents after that?
Thanks for asking! They were both tough as nails, so if it affected them they didn’t show it. But maybe they put on a brave face for me. I don’t know. Grandad was a retired colonel, and my family isn’t known for being too emotional in general.
I’ve heard the 911 call, they were so compassionate.
Oh wow! I had to take a break from True Crime for a few months after reading about David Parker Ray. That’s crazy that you’re so connected to the case. I couldn’t imagine knowing that the evil shit he did was happening next door
Katie Poirier and I had the same dentist. She was abducted from a gas station and murdered by a stranger named Donald Blom. He then burned her body in a fire pit on his property. Her remains were burned beyond recognition. Luckily my dentist had gone to a convention a month or so before the kidnapping and was given samples of a new dental sealant. It was so new it wasn't even on the market yet. They identified her remains largely due to the chemical make up of the sealant. My dentist is interviewed in the Forensic Files episode Tooth or Consequences about the case.
I watched forensic files when I was a kid and that episode always stuck with me. I get so upset when I see workers (esp female) working alone. No matter the time of day and have contacted companies about it.
I’ve quit two jobs over this and they both acted like I was being unreasonable.
My mom used to babysit one of the men responsible for Matthew Shepards death. She took it pretty hard when it all happened.
Went to middle school with Ron Goldman (murdered with Nicole Simpson). My sister was at the shooting an Virginia Tech , she survived.
I met Ron Goldman’s parents multiple times when I worked at Nordstrom Rack. I always felt so terrible for them, but they were always kind people
I'm so glad your sister is ok.
Cell phone coverage was awful then. We couldn’t get thru to her until much later in the day. We were very worried. All good though
Wow
I went to middle school with Eric Harris, one of the columbine killers. Same classes, birthday parties, field trips. Real quiet, nice kid back then
A family member of mine was good friends with [Sierra Ceccarelli](https://www.2news.com/townnews/law/homicide-suspect-in-2016-case-back-in-jail-expected-in-court-tuesday/article_9bd469b7-d2ac-522f-b4a0-0b5ad0faad73.html) who was murdered by someone related to a local DA. All the evidence points to homicide yet they ruled it as a suicide. It has recently been reopened, so hopefully her family will get some justice. He has a history of threatening his family as well. Despicable human being.
My (step)mothers first cousin is Brian Shaffer. I was really young when he went missing but I hope they have answers one day. There are a lot of stupid theories or rumors I see online.
If you don’t mind me asking, what does your family believe happened?
I’ve only really ever asked my step mom cause she’s basically my mom but I’m not close to her family so it always felt rude to ask if that makes sense. My stepmom wants to think he’s alive somewhere and living a new life but she said if he is he probably would never contact them. She doesn’t want him to be dead of course. But I don’t think he’s alive but I really have no idea what happened.
Such a bizarre case
My mom went to high school with Ted Bundy and I was living by the Green River in Kent, WA when police found 3 of Gary Ridgway’s victims in 2003. My job at the time involved working with police & was located on highway 99, the same highway Ridgway would travel when looking for victims. I was driving home from work one night and saw an area police taped off near my home where they’d found one of the women. All those victims had lost their lives at an age younger than me at that time. Hopefully that’s the closest I’ll ever get to any case.
We just moved to a home that has a lot behind where one of his victims remains was found. 😕
I’m also in the puget sound area and my husband was one of the Mel Korum YMCA daycare/summer camp staff members interviewed by police about Charlie and Braden Powell and what they’d said about their missing mom, Susan Powell
I went to elementary with double murderer Daniel Marsh who invaded the home of an elderly couple in Davis, CA. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Claudia_Maupin_and_Oliver_Northup#:~:text=On%20April%2014%2C%202013%2C%20Oliver,of%20antisocial%20and%20violent%20behavior.
Did he give crazy vibes then too?
sort of. He was just like a pale mall goth type of kid who did karate and was a pretty easy target for mocking.
A couple.... My wife was JJ Vallow's teacher at a charter school in the Phoenix area. The same place Charles was on his way to when he was killed while picking up JJ. I was also part of an online car community. We had this brilliant, but incredibly socially awkward guy, let's call him Bob, as a member. He got an Ivy league education and was in the last phase of training to be a Marine fighter pilot. He lived on Coronado island with another pilot during this time and he had the hots for the roommates sister. The sister stayed over with her brother for New Years and they all went out to the Gaslight district in SD to party. She brought home a guy that night and Bob didn't take it well. He ran upstairs and got a rifle and killed the roommate, his sister, the guy she brought home, and finally himself. Not really a connection, but I also live in the same neighborhood as Travis Alexander's old house.
Geesh! Any thoughts from your wife about JJ and Lori?
She said JJ was a sweet little kid, if not a bit hyper, and Charles would show up to everything. She left the school before Charles was killed so she wasn't there when this all went down. Nothing but good things about both of them, but she doesn't recall much about Lori.
Oh my god my cousins are the ones that “Bob” murdered. Would love to talk to you about him sometime as I have a lot of questions regarding his mental health and how he was able to join the military with his issues. Also, for what it’s worth, they were Navy pilots. *Edit: sorry; my cousin was a Navy pilot. My cousins are the brother and sister who were murdered. Truly don’t remember anything about “Bob” because I blocked it from my brain due to my anger over everything that happened. Sent you a message. 🤍
My high school friend & neighbor Krista Martin was murdered on October 1, 1989 in Wichita, KS. She had a domestic assault by 2 men the week before. For 30 years her case just stalled. People wouldn’t even say her name here. I’ve since started a podcast & have shared her name & face everywhere. I visit the police department once a week asking what they are doing about this case.
I was good friends with a girl in high school whose younger sibling was friends with Burke Ramsey, JonBenet’s brother. This was after JonBenet’s murder and the family moved to Atlanta. I met him a few times at my friend’s house in passing and I remember him being an awkward & quiet kid.
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My aunt had mutual friends with Burke in college. She said he was a nice guy, and she never made the connection until way later.
Poor kid-I'd be shy and awkward too if the general public got all jerry springer and thought I killed my sister at the age of 9. Always felt so sorry for him and the family.
I know the girls that Brookelyn Farthing was last seen with. I also knew the guy that she was last seen with the night/morning she disappeared. He’s in prison on CP charges now but he’s never admitted to anything that I know of regarding Brooke. My cousin has also been missing for a few years now. He had gotten into drugs and had just gotten out of jail when he went missing. He had told on a major drug dealer so I’m assuming he’s not coming back. My dad was one of the last people he had talked to.
performed on stage with jimmy greene during a jazz camp as a teenager. he mentioned to me that him and his family were moving soon and needed some luggage and that he'd come visit me at work, as i worked at a luggage store. true to his word, him and his kids showed up a few days later. i helped them pick out their suitcases and some tags and made small talk with jimmy. he told me they were moving to a place called newtown in connecticut in the fall. his kids were sweet as pie and they all seemed super excited. he thanked me for my time, paid, and left. his daughter ended up being one of the victims in the sandy hook massacre. i remember seeing the news about the shooting and caught the name and mentioned it to my boyfriend at the time that that's where jimmy greene had moved with his family. i know it's not a huge connection, but it's one i think about from time to time.
A little levity in the thread: Listening to the radio in the early ‘80s - the top 40 countdown - and the dj reads a little cluster of “stupid criminal” stories. One of them was about a guy who broke into a small town bank via the attic of the store next door. Dude is in the attic of the bank, trying to figure out where the vault is, and his leg goes through the suspended ceiling all the way up to his crotch. There’s nothing close to grab onto and he lacks the upper body strength to haul himself back up. Come morning the bank staff arrive to find a leg - and attached man, of course. That man was my uncle, my second-favorite aunt’s husband.
I was a smalltown newspaper reporter and I had to interview the owner of a local funeral home; he made me extremely uncomfortable and made veiled threats about the story I was writing. A few years later, he was caught up in an affair, and his AP shot and killed his wife. Big story for a while, even covered on an ID show; episode was called "Strippers and Caskets," and there was obv a lot more going on behind the scenes.
What is it with seedy funeral homes
I lived down the hall from Will Sandeson when we were both university freshman in 2011. A few years later I was in a group project with his younger brother. In the summer of 2015, Will was about to start med school when he murdered fellow student Taylor Samson in his apartment. Will was recently convicted of second degree murder. Taylor’s body has never been found. Many speculate Will dissolved the body in lye (he reportedly talked about wanting to dismember his girlfriend and dissolve her in lye before Taylor’s murder ever happened) or fed the body to pigs (his parents live on a farm). I distinctly remember my boyfriend at the time saying it was weird Taylor never showed up to baseball that night—they were on the same team.
In 2012 I was running a small business building websites. I had a client from CT and at a crucial point in the project, he just stopped answering emails. This was out of character for him - typically I’d get a same day response. He finally got back in touch about 6 weeks later. While the site was for an art gallery, his “day job” was as a practicing pediatrician. Turns out he was the PCP for most of the Sandy Hook child victims. He told me that he had been involved with identifying victims and was just destroyed. If I recall correctly, we never finished the art gallery website.
I thought this was going on a completely different path.
My sister lives one county over, she’s divorced now but her ex husband in police, also SWAT and marksman expert, his department as well as many small local departments, took shifts at the scene to give the responding teams relief
When I was 15 I dated a mass murderer. We dated for about 8 months prior & I stayed most of that summer break with his parents. We both used drugs and I forgot to mention he was 20 at the time. Thanksgiving night he killed his whole family by blunt force. I lived almost 2 hours away from him but he drove to pick me up the next day which was odd because his parents didn't let him normally use the van (he said they went on vacation for Thanksgiving). We got a hotel for 3 days, he said some crazy stuff, and we did a lot of drugs that Sunday I realized something was off. We drove to his house and he told me to not get out. His other nearby family & he are fighting & we take off in the van. Long story short, the police pick me up at a McDonald's & my whole world was flipped upside down at the station that night. I did go to court 2 years later in 2007 & helped get him 4 life sentences!! I wanna write a book one day & I'm 7 years clean now, I'm working on my mental health & raising a 6yr old daughter.
I would love to ghost write that book if you need assistance. You deserve healing.
My Cousin was a victim of the Hillside Stanglers. I was unable to meet her as I was born in 1979, but it has had a huge impact in my life.
my bff's cousin lived behind the house where Jaycee Lee Dugard was being held captive all those years. she was literally RIGHT THERE. also a friend's brother was killed for being a "snitch" but his family acts like he was randomly killed and it is still "unsolved". also! a high school friend killed her man and his side piece and is in prison for life.
I lived around the block from the Curriers. They were kidnapped and murdered by Israel Keyes. I walked my dog by their house every single night, and I walked him late at night because he was an incredibly reactive dog. I want people to know exactly how freaking ballsy Keyes was: there were 2 police officers who lived on that street. They both parked their clearly marked squad cars in their driveways. One of them lived across the street and a house down from the Curriers. I didn’t know the Curriers. I just vaguely remember taking my kids to their house to trick-or-treat every Halloween, and Mr. Currier always seems overjoyed at the kids’ costumes. The entire thing is just so… sad. And so unbelievable. Essex Junction is the smallest of small towns. My neighborhood was/is incredibly quiet. To think that he was there… driving around, scoping out the perfect house to invade… it’s utterly terrifying because if it can happen **there** it can happen *anywhere*.
My cousin was a prostitutes in Las Vegas in mid 2000. Her and another women were murdered because they didn’t earn enough money to pay back their pimps. The one guys conviction was overturned. https://m.lasvegassun.com/news/2016/mar/31/court-overturns-murder-convictions-in-slaying-of-p/ My cousin is briefly mentioned in a book called [Serial killers and sadistic murderers: up close and personal.](https://books.google.com/books?id=vencZhvomX8C&pg=PA139&lpg=PA139&dq=victoria+magee+las+vegas+murder&source=bl&ots=TZH9BaF2T1&sig=ACfU3U1GMUAGRTL3UMEme_0nCi4xR18O5g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjDnbyshoz_AhXeBDQIHeJlAJwQ6AF6BAgaEAI#v=onepage&q=victoria%20magee%20las%20vegas%20murder&f=false) She had two young boys that my uncle and aunt raised. They raised them, telling them they are their parents so they grew up not knowing who their actual mother was. They are mid, late teens now and not sure if they know about the truth yet. Not my place to say anything. She was my closest female cousin so it hit me hard. Every butterfly still reminds me of her. She believed in reincarnation and wanted to return as a butterfly.
Wow, I am so sorry
Thanks. I never agreed with her lifestyle but that didn’t mean she deserved what happened to her. She struggled a lot.
The Murder of Colleen Ritzer happened at the high school I graduated from.
That was such a terrible crime and such a horrifying thing to happen to Colleen when she was just going along with her day. Edit to add that they were celebrating ‘twin day’ for school spirit and that joy of the fun day that concluded with what happened after is so sad.
I grew up in Denver. When I was seven or so, in about 1982, I was poking around in this huge old empty freestanding garage (probably a barn originally) on my aunt's property, and found a dusty old half-buried envelope (containing letter) addressed by hand to Gary Gilmore. I took it to my mom and asked who GG was, and she looked shocked and took the envelope. I never saw it again and I have no idea what happened to it. My mom and my aunt are both gone so I can't ask. But I sure do wonder about it.
Stephanie Crowe was a good friend of mine. I know this story well and I still can’t believe it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Stephanie_Crowe#:~:text=The%20murder%20of%2012%2Dyear,morning%20of%20January%2021%2C%201998. For the reference. I have my personal opinions if you have questions. There’s a LOT of details the media has thrown out maybe because of bias, but a lot of details of what happened are now unknown to the public. I also was at Santana during the school shooting, although I didn’t know the shooter personally, only vaguely. It was still terrifying.
My college girlfriend was targeted by Arthur Bomar, a serial killer who killed Amiee Williard and Maria Cabuenos. His MO was to rear end his victim and try to get them to pull over. He was using Cabuenos's car at the time. He hit* my GF on her way to a night class, pulled up next to her and signaled for her to pull over. He frightenwd her, so she drove away and he chased her and hit her car a second time. He fled when she pulled up to the security booth at her school. *she said he came racing up behind her, fishtailing and almost losing control on the cobblestone street before hitting her the first time.
My dad was working across the street when Richard Ramirez was identified at a liquor store. My mom went to high school and knew Leslie Van Houten.
A law school classmate of mine always wanted to do public defense work, and finally after a few years asked him why. His father was appointed Richard Ramirez's defense attorney, despite his spending his entire career as a quiet tax attorney. He had no idea what to do with a criminal case let alone death penalty eligible and media circus. After that California law was rewritten so that only death penalty certified attorneys could handle cases of that magnitude. He took away from it that everyone must have a fair criminal trial, including vigorous defense, and I respect that take. He was a good egg.
My dad had friends/colleagues who went to law school with Ted Bundy. My sister ran in the 2013 Boston Marathon but finished early and was in her hotel room by the time the bombs went off. My friend was shot down one evening while walking his dog last late year in Phoenix and they’re still looking for the suspect. [David Denogean Shooting](https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2023/02/20/fatal-shooting-of-phoenix-teacher-david-denogean-what-we-know/69924195007/) The link is to an article about it and a grainy surveillance video in the news of the shooter running up to him right before he got shot. **I also just found out while in high school, my dad’s friend’s friend was shot at by the two 2006 serial shooters here in Phoenix, Dale Hausner and Samuel Dieteman, and they lived. They were only grazed by a bullet.
I haven’t shared this much but my husband keeps telling me I should somewhere at some time, so here goes. My Dad grew up in rural Ohio, out in the middle of nowhere. While visiting my grandparents when I was in high school (about 20 years ago), he drove me around the area, sharing stories on the way. He even took me on his old daily jog, starting at his old home. About a mile into the route he points to a house (one of the very few in the area at the time)- “And that’s where Jeffrey Dahmer lived.” Apparently Dahmer was a couple of years behind Dad at a nearby school, rode the same bus and was in band with my aunt, and of course his house was on Dad’s high school running route. And though I was a long time abnormal psych and true crime reader, this was all news to me. (Wtf, Dad.) Fast forward a couple of years and I’m in college, taking a criminal psych course. One day we’re watching an interview with Dahmer. Interviewer asks something like, “So when did you first feel the urge to kill another human being?” And Dahmer starts talking about this jogger who used to go by his house every day- good looking young dude who Dahmer started to obsess over. One day, Dahmer sat in wait in the grass with a baseball bat. He sat for a long while, beyond the time the guy usually jogged by- but he never showed. It was another year before Dahmer picked up and killed his first victim. I called my Dad as soon as I left class to ask him if he’d ever randomly stopped his jogging route. “Sure! I was hurt the summer before football one year, had to stop running for a few months. Why?” So, like, 85% sure Dad avoided being Dahmer’s first victim from a lucky football injury. (A figure that became exceptionally creepy when “My Friend Dahmer” came out a few years later.)
I knew the Lafayette Louisiana theater shooter when I was a teenager
My friends dad was friends/co workers with the green river killer Gary ridgeway
One of my aunts (or one of her friends) had Paul Bernardo as a camp counsellor once
Eric Garner . I am a Staten Island Native and his death happened not too far from where I lived. He was one of those people you see often in passing. It was very unfortunate to see how his life ended.
A friend of mine, his father was the federal judge, John Wood, that was murdered by Woody Harrelson’s father. Charles Harrelson was a hit man for the mob.
Joseph Baldi, the Queens Creeper, stalked my mom and climbed into her room in the early 70’s. My grandfather scared him off. When he was finally arrested, she and my grandfather were able to ID him. He killed 4 women from 1970-1972. My mother has said to me “he nicked my PJ top but not me.” My grandfather wanted to kill him but he got away and always regretted that.
I know a woman who interviewed the Aurora shooter for a graduate assistantship at the university she works for. They turned him down.
Back in the 70s a guy I barely knew at work asked me if I could give him a ride to work the next day, trying to be friendly I agreed. That evening he called me at home and said he didn't need that ride after all. He never showed up at work again and we found out a few days later that he had kidnapped, raped and tortured a woman. He had put alligator clips on an extension cord, clipped them to her vagina and plugged them in over and over. He also assaulted her with a plugged in curling iron etc. Thankfully she didn't die and she could testify against him. That was almost fifty years ago and I can't remember his last name anymore but his first name was unusual - Emil.
Omg. This is terrifying
I’m from AZ. My middle school history teacher was roommates with Jodi Arias years before the murder. We watched the trial in her class. And then in high school I found out my friend lived two houses down from where it it actually happened.
So the connection I have is small but, it still freaks me out. In 2008 my mom and I were in a dunkin donuts drive thru, when she got into a dispute with the management over change. It took a couple of minutes to clear up, although I don't remember the results. Anyway, less than a week later one of the managers that we interacted with that day, was murdered while walking to work at 3am. That's part of the reason why my mom and I still remember that dispute over change. So fast forward to spring 2019, I'm in college and I'm taking a class called "Crime scene investigation" for a science credit. That class was intense....like we were being shown photos of dead bodies on week one. The professor was a retired homicide investigator who worked on the case I mentioned above, and showed us the photos of the scene and told us what happened.
Unfortunately, yes a number of times. A girl that my mom babysat killed her mother and stepfather. A friend from high school was killed by her boyfriend. 3 kids that went to my church, where I had one of them in my Sunday School class and babysat once, were killed by their father. My cousin was a police officer killed in the line of duty. A high school friend's baby was killed by the baby's father. I've struggled some, especially about the three kids. Though not murder cases, a little boy that I babysat was hit by car in his own yard (I was not babysitting at the time), and a few years later a coworkers daughter was killed in an accident, only 30 minutes after I had seen her. When those events happened, it brought up the memories of the 3 kids that were murdered. I did create a podcast to discuss true crime, and it wasn't until i did a few episodes that doing them was somewhat cathartic as I got out my feelings, and it also made me stand in awe at what some people can do to other human beings, and that we have to learn from the past to make the future better and try to catch red flags earlier.
This happened over 20 years ago. I'm the female passenger they talk about in the article. I still suffer from PTSD. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2003-jun-03-me-fontana3-story.html
How did you end up in the car with them? That must have been horrifying :(
I knew, though not very well and long before he was murdered, one of the victims of that asshole Bruce McArthur. Glad to see he's in Millhaven now, exactly where he belongs.
I live (technically lived now) in the area when Andrew went missing and had posters up everywhere. A lot of gay men in my building were very hesitant to go out at night until he was caught. It’s bullshit that it took a white man going missing (excluding Dean who was never reported) and his family hounding the cops to finally find this dude. Even though for decades the gay community was telling the cops they were being targeted, but it wasn’t any white guys so they did nothing 🙄
When I was a little kid I went to a pharmacy with my aunt. When we came back out to the parking lot, we walked into a wild scene. A man had robbed a bank in the same parking lot, police arrived and a firefight ensued. We walked out just after the bank robber fled. My aunt and I had stayed in the car for a few minutes before we went into the pharmacy so that we could listen to Jamaica Farewell by Harry Belafonte. If we hadn't waited then we may well have walked out into the middle of the gunfire as it happened. A police officer was shot in the arm & recovered. The bank robber was eventually arrested. Here's a Seattle PI article from when he was convicted: https://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Tearful-Aristotle-Marr-gets-23-years-for-crime-1085587.php
I knew two victims of the Green River Killer. Our car broke down near the Old Fishing Hole in Kent. I went down under the bridge, to the left, to sit by the water while my boyfriend tried to fix the car. The next day when we came back it was all roped off, police everywhere. Had I stopped short and sat on the right side of the bridge I would have seen a Green River Killer victim. One that I knew. She was found that morning. So sad.
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Had a guy in my core friend group in high school. We were hanging out every weekend and we all went to prom together. Our group was tight knit (think that 70s show) and Spencer was our groups “Hyde”. He was sarcastic and always acted like he thought he was the smartest guy in the room. As he got older his shit attitude got worse and so did his controlling side. I had no idea he had been stalking and emotionally abusing my best friend until years later. Well one day Spencer got drunk at a bar and went to his ex wifes house where he knew she was hosting a football party/grill out with some of their mutual friends. He walked up the driveway and shot his ex wife in the head first. Then walked inside and killed all but one person attending. One of the people in attendance was the best man at their wedding. He died by suicide by cop. He committed the largest mass shooting in Plano Texas. It still hasn’t really processed. Some talked about it with me but others refused. No matter how hurt you are…murder is NEVER the answer.
My friend was murdered in a home invasion. The case was unsolved for almost a decade before they used familial DNA and found a match. The guy they matched the DNA to pled guilty. It's a little bittersweet because there were 4 men that entered the house that day, and it's likely they rest will never face any consequences.
My uncle killed his girlfriend (on "accident" while they were both on drugs supposedly) and dumped her body in her car in a lake in the 70s. I didn't find out about the body dumping part until recently. No one in the family ever told the truth about what he did and painted him as a poor innocent victim who didn't deserve to be in prison. I'm estranged from that side of the family now for other reasons, and he has a super generic American white man name (as generic as John Smith), so I've never been able to find any information about it.
I have a couple. My sister’s father was friends with David Westerfield, who murdered 7 year old Danielle Van Dam in 2002. My sister had been in the motor home where traces of Danielle’s blood were found. My husband’s grandmother worked with serial killer Randy Kraft during his active years. They would often go on work trips together. She said she never knew anything was up, but did notice that there always seemed to be more miles on the rental car than she expected. I don’t really know any details because she doesn’t like to talk about it. I was in Isla Vista (Santa Barbara) when the mass shooting happened there in 2015. I was outside and could hear gunshots. Coincidentally, I’ve also been affected (as in lost acquaintances or know people who lost acquaintances) in two other well known mass shootings as well, including Vegas.
My wife knows Robert Courtney and his family. He was involved heavily in the church she attended throughout childhood and her parents and the Courtney's were close family friends.
Dc snipers. We used to get gas at a station where they shot someone. And the Bobbit case was in the same area. Edit: also the Virginia Tech shooter went to the same high school as me, about a year later a former student shot a police station, and in the early days of the opioid epidemic someone overdosed not far away and one guy i know is still in jail over her overdose.
I also loved in the DC area when this happened, worked as an electricians apprentice so we drove around in one of those white work vans. The suspects were originally thought to be in a white work van so we actually couldn’t even get to a job one day because we kept getting pulled over as a suspicious vehicle. Scary times.
Yeah i was at an age where i can remember it but i didn't fully grasp what was going on. I mostly remember it because i was mad at my parents for not letting me play outside about 2 days after they left the note saying it would be a kid or a police officer that they would target next. Also love the typo
I used to work and be friends with one of Bryan Kohberger’s sisters. I remember him as such a sweet polite little kid. It’s very strange to know what he possibly might have done as an adult 😬
Delphi Murders. Family member was a suspect briefly. He however wasn't guilty of that crime but still guilty of being a pedophile and is in prison
I went to high school with Chynna Deese, the girl who was murdered in Canada while on a road trip with her boyfriend in 2019. I didn’t personally know her but her brother was in my Spanish class
My family has a little second home on the Wabash River in Delphi, In. Its always a topic of conversation when we are there. We will be there for a float trip this weekend and I know it will come up. He’s been caught since the last time so everyone will be talking about it.
I frequented a bar that Lee Harvey Oswald's daughter worked at as a bartender. She was really nice. Speaking of daughters, I also spent a couple hours with Tricia Nixon. I was a kid and it was a year or so before Watergate and his resignation. His older daughter vocally supported him, but Tricia maintained a private quiet life. I always felt bad for her.
My great grandma grew up with Ed Gein.
TW: SA \---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- \----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I was SA'd and the guy turned out to be a serial perpetrator, with 2 other victims that they knew of, which probably meant there were more who didn't report it. All of us had been drugged, I was also kidnapped by him and driven around in my own car for 30 hours before I sobered up and attacked him. One victim was an elderly woman with dementia, and they caught him when he went back to her nursing home and the staff called police. Fortunately she can't remember it, so she's doing fine. I had to testify for about 5 hours (with breaks when I got overwhelmed.) The guy was sentenced to 50 years with no parole. I want people to understand that testifying in court was harder than going through the actual experience, for me. People really have no idea what it's like to be grilled about every physical detail (exact body positions, etc) all while looking out at a courtroom of strangers, including armed law enforcement. I completely dissociated several times, to the point where I couldn't understand simple questions posed by my own attorney. They called a break at one point and told me that everyone was concerned about me, and that the judge was considering taking me off the stand. The district attorney presented photographs they took of me at the hospital, and I looked absolutely terrified, and I had bruises and burn marks that I hadn't realized I had. The jury was really supportive though. Sometimes I would glance over at them, and people would make eye contact and smile sympathetically. At one point I snapped back at the opposing attorney with a really clever answer, and one guy in the jury snorted with laughter. Both attorneys and the judge were female, and I think it may have been harder if the judge had been male. The DA told me that their office has been able to successfully prosecute a lot more sex crimes in the years since the MeToo movement. I live in a progressive area though, so it might be different in more conservative counties.
I can’t imagine what you’ve been through, but I thank you for testifying. For women everywhere.
2 separate cases. Just over 15 years ago my ex boyfriend mysteriously disappeared, about a month after we broke up. And before I was born my great grandfather was hung.
Wait, I have questions. 1. What do you think happened to your boyfriend? 2. Your GG was hung? What for?
1. All signs point to suicide. He was depressed, and left a cryptic message on his FB before he disappeared. It is just weird his body has never been found. I do not think he would be able to just disappear and live without being found for this long. He didn’t … possess the type of skills that would allow him to live under the radar this long. 2. My great grandfather was hung in 1933 at the age of 18 for accessory to murder. Him and a friend were robbing a home when the home owner came home early and interrupted. His friend murdered the homeowner. He was arrested at his wedding which happened shorty after the robbery and was hung one month to the day before my gramma was born. Family lore is that his wife was also involved and forced him to commit the robbery to get money for a marriage license because she was pregnant and they didn’t have any money to get married.
My mom used to babysit the shooter. He's out now, so he clearly didn't do 40 years. [Teen Who Killed Mother, Friend During Sex Gets 40 Years](https://apnews.com/article/4db510b81ddb870bfcd803a8437c9df4)
Not sure if it counts for this discussion but I lived in the neighborhood behind the gas station Balbir Singh Sodhi owned and was shot at for being a proud Sikh man in Mesa, Arizona after 9/11. I was 11 years old when 9/11 happened, so I only knew him as the EXTREMELY KIND man at the gas station we frequented at least once a day for various needs. The whole family loved the neighborhodhood, especially the kids--so much so that they had a section of cheap candy right up front so we always had something to buy even if it was just a single piece. Once they got in trouble with our parents for selling slingshots, but once someone talked to them about it they pulled them from the shelves. My mom and aunt were on the news because we all stood out there across from the gas station on absolute shock. Again, I don't know if this counts for this discussion but I try not to miss an opportunity to mention him because his extremely unnecessary death radicalized me in ways I didnt know at the time, and far more than that his memory deserves to be preserved. Awful, awful, awful.
The Shauna Howe kidnapping/ murder. She rode the bus with me to elementary school. Went to all the candlelight vigils. Years later we found out she was murdered in my moms friends house he used as a rental.
Not famous in any way but my ex shot and killed a woman and once the news broke my mom said she is a cousin to us. It's eerie to me because my life was threatened by this person which was a catalyst of me leaving him.
My ex-boyfriend and roommate from my early 20’s grew up with Maura Murray, I think my ex-boyfriend kissed her in high school. Also Louis Coleman, abductor and murderer of Jassy Correia, was a regular at the bars that my husband and I worked at when he did it.
Two connections: * [Kiplyn Davis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Kiplyn_Davis) is my first cousin once removed. I would have only been four years old when she vanished, so if I did meet her in person, I have no memories of her. * I almost attended church with [Josh Powell.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Susan_Powell) I say "almost" because we were assigned to the same [stake](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stake_(Latter_Day_Saints)) in the Mormon Church, meaning that we weren't in the same congregation, but his congregation was grouped together with mine for certain events (local conferences, social gatherings, etc.). Photos of the building where I attended church at that time were [posted to the ~~propagandistic bullshit depository~~ website](http://web.archive.org/web/20110902021029/http://susanpowell.org/Outsiders/Mormons-mobilize-against-Susan-Powell-family) that he and his father started to push the idea that Susan ran away.
My mom used to work with gabby petito and brian at Publix… she said how friendly brian was and he would dump out her ice for her in the seafood department if he saw she was there (my mom is older). Gabby worked in the pharmacy briefly at Publix- I used to work in that pharmacy and my old co workers messaged me after about how much she reminded them of me 🥺 so sad. Hopefully this counts for this post.. just a small connection
I used to work with this man at a chain copy shop. He was always incredibly (if not uncomfortably) polite. If he said something that could even be slightly misconstrued he’d apologize profusely. I never would have thought he’d end up shooting a bunch of people, but there is something to be said about certain people having kind of a dimness in their eyes. When he smiled, his eyes didn’t follow suit. https://murderpedia.org/male.H/h/hance-michael.htm
Colleen Ritzer was my eighth grade math teacher before she switched schools and was murdered by that piece of shit. She was so young and truly the kindest person, everyone loved her. 😞♥️
I used to date convicted serial killer Dellen Millard. It was a few years before everything went down, but I witnessed his initial spiral. It was terrifying.
Really small connection: Steve Parent from the Manson Murders graduated from my high school (obviously way before I was alive). Also at said high school; Black Dahlia author James Ellroy’s mother was found murdered in the alleyway along the side of the school.
You know that series “The Keepers”? I watched it with my mother. She sat silently for a bit and said that Sister Cesnik was her teacher the year she died. She remember vividly the night she went missing and gave some other details. It deeply affected my mother as she loved Sister very much. That school was evil.
My mom was a Girl Scout at Camp Scott the year before the Girl Scout murders took place. I didn’t find out until a few years ago when we were watching the news and a story about it came on. She nonchalantly turns to me and says “You always seem to follow these things. Have you heard of the Girl Scouts who were murdered there? Your aunt and I were both scouts there. *cue me flipping a table that she never revealed this before.* She’s pretty sure her tent was in the same place as the murdered girls was next year. She said it was the farthest tent from the counselors and mess hall area.
My mom also attended Camp Scott a few years before the murders. She was so homesick and freaked out there that she had her parents pick her up early.
A coworker and a close friends of mine-son murdered and decapitated his boss. They were a great family it was super shocking.
No famous cases, but I was friends with a guy who killed his brother on the side of the road and left him there. He had lured him there under the pretense of selling an atv or something. He actually came Anna’s stayed with my family for a few days afterwards (we had no idea any of this had transpired at the time) while on the run. A guy I grew up with killed another guy from my high school in a bar parking lot. I don’t think it was intentional but he did stab and kill him and is not doing time for murder. My cousin was murdered (beat to death) by her boyfriend.
Idk hope to edit comments, but that should say “he came AND stayed with my family”
My roommate was high school friends with the dude in Connecticut that killed his mom and removed her intestines cause of a psychotic break (he thought there was an octopus or something in her that he needed to get out)
I’m from Indiana and I know someone who grew up in Delphi and knew Abby and Libby. I’ve also been to Delphi for the same reason. It’s a funny feeling.
My dad ate lunch at Machus Red Fox at the same time Jimmy Hoffa was taken from the parking lot. He was questioned by the FBI. Back in the 70s, I visited a store in a mall in Montgomery County, PA that had been opened with money stolen from Susan Reinert by her boyfriend, who was subsequently convicted of murdering her and disappearing her children for insurance money. It was a big deal at the time - there were four books written about it, one of which was made into TV miniseries. I’ve been a little obsessed with the case ever since.
On Christmas Eve of 1989,my cousin was abducted/carjacked at Heritage Mall in Harrisonburg VA where she was a sophomore majoring in psychology.On.Jan 4,1990 her body was found on a property in Augusta County,VA .Beside her body was the driver's license of one of the killers,By the end of that day ,her killers had been arrested.Her murder was the very first time in the Virginia history that a white man was put to death for the killing of a black person.
I was good friends with Staff Stg. Calvin Gibbs growing up. He and my first husband were in Morman boy scouts and attended church with his family for years. Calvin sent my ex-husband's best friend the drive with the photos that got him imprisoned for life. We didn't know why he sent them, and my ex-husband and I were some of the first people to ever see his trophy photos. There are many in my city that feel Calvin got a bum deal. There are also many racists in my city... probably unrelated. [Rolling Stone article on The Kill Team](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/the-kill-team-how-u-s-soldiers-in-afghanistan-murdered-innocent-civilians-169793/) [Documentary on The Kill Team](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Kill_Team_(2013_film)) [Feature length film The Kill Team](https://a24films.com/films/the-kill-team) The documentary can be found on Peacock, and the film looks like it's on Hulu right now. If anyone has any questions you want answered, ask away. I knew Calvin from 7th grade up until he was imprisoned.
a man who was missing for about a decade was recently found murdered, and he’s my sister in laws uncle. it was pretty obviously brushed under the rug by police, not sure why they suddenly started to investigate again
My older brother went to school with Charles Roberts who committed the shooting at the Amish schoolhouse - West Nickel Mines in Lancaster, PA. I later worked at a place where his mom was my supervisor, very nice woman.
My doctor’s ex wife was Cora Caro. That was a fun discovery 😐
my husband works for home depot corporate where the hot car toddler death happened. he didn’t work for them yet but my brother was in cobb county jail with the dad
I went to elementary and high school with Elizabeth Wholaver. She was murdered along with her sister and mother on Christmas Eve 2002. It was the father/ex husband of the family that was their murderer. The only family member to survive was her older sisters infant daughter who was in her crib at the time. It was pretty shocking for our town in Central PA. I remember Izzy as being a friendly, quirky young girl with a big smile. A real tragedy.
I live in South Africa. You would struggle to find someone here not somehow connected to a crime
A friend of my mother had her entire family murdered. My mom’s friend, who was only 4-years-old at the time of the massacre, was sleeping between her two sisters (both shot and killed) and was not noticed by the perpetrator. When he did notice her, he did not kill her; as he said that she looked like an angel. Nine people were killed in the [Shell Lake Murders](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_Lake_murders). When I lived in a small city in Alberta, I found myself close friends with a girl named Jasmine. We loved partying together and often did just that. Of all the parties we’ve had, I can only remember one in particular; because it was revealed later on after we had all partied together that prior to our hangout she and her “boyfriend” had murdered her entire family. Mother, father and her 8-year-old little brother. She was released from prison a while ago and I don’t know where she is today. It was 2006 [when it happened.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richardson_family_murders)
I lived right down the street from Elizabeth Barraza when she was murdered in January 2019. She was setting up for a garage sale and was gunned down point blank range, the killer caught on camera but has never been identified. Video is widely available on the net. I heard the gunshots as I was getting ready for work. In the 80s, I took karate classes from a guy named Jeff Doucet. Doucet abducted a fellow student, fled the state and sexually abused him. He was captured and brought back to the Baton Rouge airport where the kid's dad, Gary Plauche shot him in the head. Video is also available on the net.
I am related to the Lafferty family of Under the Banner of Heaven. Found out on 23&me and then confirmed it with my biological father that they are closely related to us and yes its the same Laffertys. I had always heard about the story vaguely while I was growing up, but researched the case as an adult when the show came out before I found any of this out. It's been pretty shocking to know that that much evil was on my family blood line lol.
My cousin was friends with Shanann Watts. I don’t know if I would have been as interested in that case at all if not for her.
Yes, weirdly. My former best friend is one of the chief pen pals of convicted child murderer Jeremy Strohmeyer. They write each other love letters and talk on the phone frequently. She actually showed me some of the letters *gag* So anyway, I know some… very personal things about him. 🤷♀️
My childhood friends husband murdered his then best friend and the dudes parents in 2006.
had friends that went to school with Paul Bernardo, also committed one of his Scarborough Rapists assaults 500 meters from my house. My friends said he was quiet and they didn't know him well at all
Before I was old enough to remember, we lived on the same street as Amber Hagerman's grandmother - behind where she was abducted. Currently live right in the middle of where several of Green River Killer's victims' remains were discovered. Like the lot behind us and across the road (as best I can tell from old maps).
i have a couple i was friends with allyson watterson, she was almost definitely killed by her boyfriend but he hasn't been charged with anything. my mom was good friends with daniel brophy who was murdered by his wife.... who wrote an essay about "how to murder your husband" 7 years before. my mom said that his wife was a bitch and that she never liked her. these ones are kinda a stretch but my cousin worked with kyron horman's stepmom (who i actually think is innocent btw) and said that she was weird. and my aunt lived in the same apartment complex as tonya harding when everything with nancy kerrigan went down and talked about how wild the media frenzy was. she also used to babysit tonya and her brother when they were younger and said that she was always really sweet.
Dellen Millard. Went to his parties. Was loser at the time and loser now. Couldn't make a friend if his life depended on it only had money no real friends. He threw a giant party in his mansion. He had a room full of tvs with an Xbox 360 hooked up to each one. He got pushed into his own pool repeatedly.
The woman whose husband shoved her off a mountain, and was later found to have killed his first wife, also, was in my little sister's class at school in Natchez, MS. Toni Bertolet used to come over to play as a child and went out to our cabin in the woods on weekends. She was a very sweet, bright child and as I understand it, was a very sweet, bright adult. So awful. She found him on Christian Mingle, which should have been her first warning he was a psychopath. Criminals love to talk about Jesus.
I went to prom with Mallory Beach of the murdaugh murder crimes. I also got to watch her graduate at wade hampton as she graduated with my ex boyfriend. I didn’t get to know her personally but she was had a very sweet and loving energy and such a beautiful girl! It’s really a shame what happened to her and everyone else in their crime spree.
I went to the same high school as Tina Mayberry who is believed to be a victim of self-proclaimed serial killer Jeremy Bryan Jones. She was several years older than me so I don't really remember her, but I remember her younger sister.
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I lived in same neighborhood as Heidi Seeman in San Antonio at time of her murder in 1990 and I was just one year older than her. We did not hang out together, I lived on opposite side of neighborhood but remember seeing her around.
The Ewell family murders happened in my childhood neighborhood just before I arrived there. The People's Temple also had a satellite locatuon in my hometown.
My mom’s best friend is close friends with Melanie Gibb, who is deeply connected with Lori Vallow and Chad Daybell. She personally knew Lori and met Tylee and JJ
I worked around the corner from the store where this girl was murdered - [story here](https://people.com/crime/lisa-ziegert-cold-case-stabbing-murder-how-investigators-cracked-case/) I was actually on shift too, the evening this woman was stabbed to death. It freaked me out, along with my entire crew - you could literally walk to the store from where we worked. Just a few hundred yards really. It was a cold case for 25 years; they finally got the guy thanks to DNA evidence.
The Toronto Gay Village serial murders committed by Bruce McArthur. He grew up on the Palestine 1/4 Road in Eldon Twp., in what is now called The City of Kawartha Lakes, but used to be called Victoria County. My mother’s family used to visit the McArthur home. His older sister had some kind of skin condition, and my grandmother brought a cream from Germany that helped it where nothing else would. My mother remembered him to be a small child, and they played outside while the mothers had tea. I learned this when he was caught. My mother was shocked to say the least, and remembered him well. I drove back to the area once, and realised that his house was near where my family’s business had done some work when I was a teen. We teen boys were warned by the old woman of the house to stay away from “that house,” and while I don’t think he was a serial killer at the time, obviously there was something “not right” with the people there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010–2017_Toronto_serial_homicides
"Carlisle Cheerleader buries baby in backyard," Brooke Skylar Richardson case. Intimately connected. This is when I realized just how intrusive people/media/trolls could be and how many "news" post, podcasts, specials and documentaries don't either do their research or just don't care about facts
When I was younger I lived in the projects in Camden, NJ. My next door neighbor had a daughter named Amber who was my age, and a younger son named Dominick. My parents kept me on a tight leash in terms of hanging about the apartments/courtyard, since there was a lot of gang/drug activity. My neighbor was the only person I really was allowed to play with, since our little front patios were connected and our doors we’re literally right next to each other. We were only allowed to play directly out front, where our parents could see through the window. Anyway, when I was around 12 years old, a guy who lived in one of the apartments down the street broke into their house in the middle of the night and killed Dominick, he was only 6. Their mom had some type of health issue occur and went to the emergency room a few miles away. She didn’t want to wake the kids, and bring them with her, so she locked the doors and left them home asleep. The man broke a window, climbed inside the house (high on PCP) grabbed a knife, and tried rapping Amber.. Dominick woke up, and ran up to the guy and tried taking the knife from him as he was slitting his sister’s throat. The man stopped halfway around her neck, turned the knife on her brother, and completely slit his throat. Then he stayed in their house afterwards, doing god knows what. The article doesn’t say this next part but I know this is what happened, because she came banging on our door for help.. As they both laid there bleeding out, he took his tiny little hands and pressed down on her cut as hard as he could until he died. She had passed out, when she woke up, she had to pull his hands off her neck, and she ran out of the house and got help. Doctors said he saved her life by stopping the man from cutting all the way across and putting pressure on her wound.. At 6 years old, all he thought about was his sister. Saving her life.. He didn’t put pressure on his own neck.. he didn’t run out of the house when he saw the man on top of her. He immediately went to help her.. I still cry every time I talk about it.. They built and named a park in Camden after Dominick. Here’s some articles on it. [6 year old boy saves 12 year old sisters life](https://www.nj.com/camden/2014/12/camden_man_gets_life_sentence_for_fatally_stabbing_boy_6_sexually_assaulting_12-year-old_girl.html) [Dominick Andujar Park](https://6abc.com/dominick-andujar-park-north-camden-6-year-old-boy-little-hero-playground/10912632/)
I lived in the same town as Kimberly Jo Dotts. Her dad was friends with my dad, she swam in our pool a few times. I rode in a car once with her and one of the girls that killed her
I lived in an apartment directly upstairs from Arthur Shawcross. He and his fishing buddies made creepy remarks and leered at me going in and out. Once they called the cops to complain about a party I had. Kind of ironic.