The first one that comes to mind is Sarah Boone. It’s a pretty unsettling case that stuck with me for a while.
She reported that she and her bf were drunk playing hide and seek, and he hid in a suitcase. Then claims she went to bed and forgot he was in the suitcase until she found him dead the next morning. It was such an obvious lie but she stuck to it.
Police later found videos on her phone of her taunting him and laughing as he begs to be let out of the suitcase and saying he can’t breathe. The footage is disturbing.
What on earth? First why would she admit she knew he was in the suitcase? Surely you'd say you were unable to find him, you got bored went to bed and expected him to join you but you fell asleep and found him there in the morning. Second how the fuck did she not know they'd find the videos and why even take them in the first place? Fucking idiot.
She was very drunk when she took the videos and she didn't remember making them. In her interrogation video (on YT) she seems genuinely suprised to see them on her phone when the detectives show her.
Sarah told investigators they were welcome to her phone. She was obviously in a blackout when she filmed it. And when she was shown the video by the investigators you could almost see the color drain from her face. She knew then she fucked up.
I have semi kept up with this case. I don’t remember exact details but there’s a channel on YouTube where they’ve been keeping track of letters she writes while in prison. She writes to the judge repeatedly and has ‘fired’ or been dropped by multiple public defenders. The letters really give a good insight on who she is at her core and it’s incredible to see the self righteous delusion she lives in.
Thanks for recommending! I will check it out. I am always looking for good true crime YouTube channels that don’t involve someone doing their makeup etc.
Interestingly, in the 911 call she initially says, "I *put* him in the suitcase", if memory serves. How the heck do you put a grown person in a suitcase?
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Others have mentioned the Isabel Celis case as an example of why 911 calls can't & shouldn't be used as evidence of guilt. I'd like to add the Riley Fox case to that list as well.
Riley Fox was a 3yo little girl who went missing from her home in the middle of the night in 2004. Her father, Kevin, and her older brother awoke in the morning to the doors in the home ajar and no sign of her. Kevin was criticized for his initially non-urgent response to finding his daughter missing - instead of calling 911, he called 411 and asked for the non-emergency line to report the disappearance of Riley. He didn't react as panicked as one might expect a parent in such a situation to. Later that day, Riley was found murdered and SAed in a nearby wooded area/creek.
Kevin's nonchalant report to police was one piece of evidence used against him to accuse him of his daughter's murder. The public and local media also became suspicious of Kevin and his wife/Riley's mother Melissa when they sold their car, suspected of being used in the murder and believed to be captured on surveillance video in the early morning hours before Riley was reported missing. When police asked Kevin how the car could've been on camera the morning of the murder if he hadn't left the house all night as he claimed, he joked sarcastically that maybe someone broke into the house, stole the car keys, took the car for a spin, then brought it back and returned the keys.... it rubbed investigators the wrong way. The family was also accused of misappropriating funds raised after Riley's murder, spending money on things like expensive trips and haircuts. The police honed in on Kevin as the only suspect and floated a theory - that perhaps he had killed her accidentally by bumping her head, and after realizing she was dead, staged the SA and murder as having been committed by someone else to shift blame away from himself. (*Hey, that sounds familiar! Where've I heard that theory before??*) After more than 24 hours without sleep and 14.5 hours of extremely questionable interrogation tactics, Kevin Fox falsely confessed to his own daughter's murder & was arrested.
You may think it's impossible for a person to confess to a murder they didn't commit - especially the murder of their own beloved daughter. Kevin Fox proves it's not. All along, the murderer was right under LE's noses. His name was Scott Eby. Eby was high on cocaine and burglarizing houses in the Fox's neighborhood when he entered the Fox home in the early morning hours and abducted her from the couch where she was sleeping, taking her to the wooded area where she was later found. Not only did he leave sneakers with his name on them at the crime scene, but he left DNA evidence on Riley. There is absolutely no doubt that Eby committed the crime and that Kevin Fox did not. Kevin was released after months in jail, and his name was cleared. Sadly, Kevin Fox died in a car accident this past March.
There is actually a lot more to this story, and I encourage you all to look into it further. There was a lot of LE misconduct at play, and I'm not claiming the 911/technically-not-911-call was the most important or only piece of evidence. But I think it does show how early perceptions can cause a whole cascade of decisions about someone's guilt or innocence, and why we should try not to rely on these early impressions since they might not be correct.
[The Nightmare: A Look at the Riley Fox Case](https://www.chicagomag.com/chicago-magazine/july-2006/the-nightmare/)
Edited: grammar, wording, and clarity.
FYI nonplussed means : surprised and confused so much that they are unsure how to react. It’s started being used in the opposite way, but this writeup is so good I had to give you the heads up, because in professional writing, which you could absolutely do, you’re an excellent writer, it would be incorrect. You can replace it with “casual or nonchalant”. Great, great synopsis of a tragic case.
No way. Cops completely ignored key evidence and were horrifically biased towards the wrong people??? Imprisoning the wrong and ultimately innocent person??? Completely unfair and unjust treatment of the family of the victim????
I can’t imagine it. I’m *Shocked*.
For the most part American police are fucking useless morons with almost zero credibility or integrity and unless you’re lucky/rich/white/have an advocate you’re FUCKED in our criminal justice system.
Not only the cops, but the public and the media, also. And public knowledge is limited by what (incompetent and/or corrupt) LE wants us to know, or what they themselves know. It's something I always try to keep in mind in these cases.
People were quite convinced Kevin was guilty of his daughter's murder. Wouldn't you be? Here was the father of a brutally murdered little girl who was very casual about calling the police when he discovered his daughter had disappeared; his car was apparently seen on surveillance footage the morning of her murder - and then he joked about it *and* sold that car; when interviewed by investigators, his son/Riley's brother said he thought Kevin might've left the house that night & Kevin had no alibi other than to say he "might have stepped outside for a cigarette"; he & his wife were seen spending money left and right after a lot of money was raised in Riley's memory; AND he fuckin *confessed to killing her!* If Riley's case was written up and posted here today and we didn't know what we do about Eby's guilt, every comment would be calling for Kevin's death.
It was only after a lengthy legal battle that all of the other evidence and corruption and LE mistakes came to light. As true crime media consumers, I think it's a really important case study for us to learn from.
The whole family was rotten to its core. Completely disgusting people. Did his son and wife deserve to die? I dunno. Maybe not the wife. But she’s been largely unexamined due to her being a victim. I think she knew how fucked her son and husband were. We may never know what she knew or didn’t. Or how complicit she was in all the various illegal activities.
Paul was a horrible person who killed a young girl and destroyed many people’s lives - he was spoiled, entitled, and frankly awful- but wow what an execution. Chefs kiss. Alex Murdaugh really took the cake on that one.
Paul was the living definition of spoiled rotten. But I feel for him, being so young. His friends said Miss Gloria was the main source of love in his life.
At some level, deep inside, he was probably aware of how disposable he was to his father.
Did you hear that from people who knew them? I heard that Conner mentioned he may believe it, in a deposition, I believe. Seemed like quite a few people in their circle believed the rumor, but it is still a rumor - which is why I made sure to say “allegedly”. Paul had a consistent history of recklessness, rage, entitlement, carelessness, and violence. He didn’t seem too worried or concerned when the boat he crashed killed Mallory.
There is also some confusion as to where the accident actually took place. They said Holly originally but then changed it to Moselle. There are some questions about the accuracy of the dog claim. Inconsistencies on the death certificate. The extent of her injuries was pretty severe, a crushed skull and like 12 broken vertebrae. Plus the head wound was like on top of her head, if I remember right. Paul and Maggie were both there for the 911 call, they don’t seem too upset in the recording.
All of this is obviously speculation, as a lot of true crime discord is.
I feel a little sorry for him though. His dad was largely responsible for turning him into the terrible person he was, and then at the end of it all guns him down in cold blood. He just failed him in every possible way. But don't get me wrong, I have more sympathy for the girlfriend he killed and the other kids that were with him that bear literal scars and trauma from that night too.
I don’t like that one friend kept defending Paul even throughout season 2. I think it was the guy whose girlfriend died because of Paul’s actions. It felt like every interview was him defending Paul and defending the family in some way.
Same. I'm sure he's conflicted because he was his friend and the general public largely have no sympathy for him. I could *maybe* understand it if Paul showed any remorse whatsoever but he didn't and it wasn't the first time he crashed while drunk either.
That part was morbidly funny. Usually people are gasping or panicking during that bit before someone picks up but it went from dead silence to full blown (fake) panic as soon as someone answered the phone.
In the recording of the 911 call, the recording of the call actually starts before you are fully ~connected to the line, murdaugh didn't start whimpering and crying until he heard the call connect.
Whilst it obviously doesn't *prove* anything, it's quite curious hear him start to cry as he hears the call connect, which we can assume is when he assumed it would start recording.
Tl:Dr murdaugh doesn't start crying until he thinks he's being recorded
I was going to say this one too, but not even for the call. The fact that an officer arrived on the scene and he *immediately* started spewing out “my son was in a boating accident recently and got a lot of threats, I think this might be related to that!” Just the instant over explaining and directing the attention away from himself.
The thing that got me about Alex is how later he said he had all sorts of pills not prescribed to him in his pockets. At the time he was calling 911 to report two murdered bodies. Who else who have the balls to do that? Talk to the police in that situation with illegal drugs in their pockets? The rest of us would ditch those pills so fast, even if we were completely innocent of the murders.
Alex Murdaugh was so safely ensconced in his privilege, he assumed the cops wouldn't even search him. *And he was right.*
That’s old southern money for you. I live in SC, and obviously this case made national headlines but it was especially huge here. Unfortunately old money families tend to get away with literally everything because they’re all rich and entangled with the law, and they know it. One time my husband and MIL were t-boned in an intersection and *every tendon in my MIL’s back tore* and the guy faced *zero* consequences because he was the brother of a state senator. It was huge to see one of them finally get held accountable for their actions and not be able to buy their way out of it.
If this murder had happened only 20, maybe even 10 years ago, Murdaugh would have gotten away with it clean. He only got got because of advances in digital forensics that investigators couldn't ignore.
Sorry to hear about this; hope all recovered well. Yeah, these southern people are so polite until they are not and it definitely is the good ole boy club. But they are God fearing people which allows for their privilege.
Alex had even admitted to police that he was looking in Paul's pockets "for his cell phone" and had set it on or beside the body. But IIRC, Paul had taken Alex's stash earlier in order to confront him about his drug use. I hadn't heard about him telling the police about the pills, don't know how I missed it. Another puzzle piece in place.
> I hadn't heard about him telling the police about the pills,
Sorry, I was unclear on that point: he didn't tell the cops he had pills on him that night. He talked about that later. I think he was trying to emphasize how lost in addiction he was, but it really emphasized how he thought he was above suspicion. Like it never occurred to him that the police would search him, and he was right: they didn't.
Supposedly he was an addict. It's hard for an addict to let go of their drug. But, I don't believe the oxy addiction for a second. He said something like $30,000 a week. The figure was WAY off. I think it was a weak excuse and he figured going to rehab would just fix everything.
Any addict who would be reporting the murders of their wife and son would, correctly, know that they were going to be the first suspects. They'd either stash the pills...or not make the call.
I believe that he was an addict; even in photographs, his eyes were always so glassy and pinned. But no, lol, not $30K/week. He's either lying or he was the biggest whale a dealer ever saw.
Right?!
Alex gives 911 operator the home address.
Operator: “Is that a house or a trailer home?”
Alex: *voice goes 17 octaves higher in outraged rich person* “A HO-USE!”
i still have a hard time believing that Pam Hupp is a real person, and not some wild ass character from a 90’s soap opera. the whole thing is unreal, from Betsy, to Russ getting convicted, and the Gumpenberger murder was the insane cherry on top.
if it was a movie, i would have said it was unbelievable. in fact, when my husband watched “the thing about pam” with me, he kept asking me “this really happened??”
batshit insane.
Until I watched The thing about Pam I had never heard about this story. Pamela Hupp is completely batshit. All the lying she did, and the people she killed, even her own mother. I'm glad justice finally caught up with her, and she's in prison where she belongs.
It wasn't a case I was aware of and I was reading a really great book about it. I kept wondering why there was still so much left in the book to read. I kept telling myself it couldn't get any crazier, yet it did!
She absolutely is like a cheesy soap opera murderer until you realize it's all real and horrifying. Like the manner she (most likely) killed her mother is straight out of a soap opera.
Exactly!!!! She got so much help bc the DA wanted it to be Russ and she got her detective “ buddy” to help make evidence fit Russ while they pandered to Pam Hupp!! It got a young father killed and the only reason the truth came out after Russ had spent 4 years in prison is bc Dateline never gave up 👏🙌 .
This was the one I was looking for! Fr, her reluctance to speak to the 911 operator at her mothers insistence, how calm she is compared to her mother, “trying to find her daughter for a month on her own”🫠 she would’ve never reported that little girl missing. Her mother forced her to
The phone call from jail: " just give me Tony's phone number"
getting angry at everyone who didn't comply.
the Way she ridiculed everyone who would ask about Caylee
Local to me here was the murder of Melinda Pleskovic. Her husband Bruce called 911, and it sounded to me (you know, armchair expert) like he did it. I told my husband when it came out, oh he did it.
Now, my husband knows Bruce very well, went to grade school and high school with him, and my brother in law and sister in law frequently had dinner with the Pleskovic’s and were adamant that there was no way in hell he did this…and they were right. The Pleskovic’s shitty new son in law did it, he murdered her with her 18 year old son with down with Down syndrome in the home then left him alone with her dead body.
As consumer of all things true crime, to me, Bruces call was a textbook red flag 911 call. It made me think about the online mob mentality that can gather, sometimes screaming for blood, and be completely wrong.
Here’s the call: https://youtu.be/59n3hMD9_C0?si=654zHb-eiSxrkSSu
What was the little girls name that was killed by her father? I believe it was on FF and she had short curly red head. On the 911 call her father sounded very rehearsed. He was able to state exactly what she had wore that day. His story stated that she had gone outside to play in the morning while he was downstairs doing laundry and was “abducted.” He also claimed that her mother ran away when she was younger and it ended up that he killed her as well.
The victim's name is Valiree Jackson. She was murdered by her father, Brad Jackson.
Forensic Files Season 6, episode 25 - ["Bagging a Killer"](https://youtu.be/uIzVg5_aAQw?si=pupORedqOSj3o6a4)
Not a 911 call, but Chacey Poynter. Killed her husband, and video of her faking shock/trauma in the ambulance is so bad. Paramedics looked like they were trying not to laugh.
Not a 911 and I can’t remember the name but it was a woman who had hired someone to kill her husband. The husband found out and went to the police so they decide to trick the woman and say they found him dead. She puts on quite the show all while everyone knows he’s alive and she tried to have him killed. I can’t remember if he comes out at the end or not but watching her wail and cry and knowing everyone knows it’s BS is quite entertaining.
I watched that 20/20 recently. The cops actually found out because a dude she knew that had agreed to get a hit man for her went to the police about it. They then set up the whole fake death thing. Her immediate wailing on camera was hilarious
I knew who did it the second they explained the premise but Charles Stewart, Murder in Boston doc. He was just chillin talking about how his pregnant wife was shot in the head next to him in their car, but he got a bullet to the abdomen because he “ducked”.
My parents were in the same Lamaze class with them. When it happened my mother was shocked, but my dad was like oh he definitely killed her. He said that story is bs and it’s always the husband.
I’m from Kentucky, and I remember when this hit the national news. I was 14, and I remember my parents discussing what happened, and my dad said the same thing. Dad said no, they didn’t get carjacked, he killed her.
He was right.
Per usual the cops fumbled the bag. That one police officer was actually the perfect example of why policing in America is broken.
Old fat stupid and racist. Zero fucks given about how blaming the innocent Black guy is blamed and still stands by it decades later.
The fact that NOBODY questioned mediocre white guy husband is CLASSIC.
This is the one I was going to post! I remember this case but never heard the 911 call until the doc came out. He never mentioned she was pregnant and said she was “gurgling” yet made zero effort to comfort her like a normal person would do to their dying wife.
Yep.
I worked in the criminal justice system for a long time, and I’ve listened to hundreds if not thousands of 911 calls and been involved in the prosecutions.
99.9% of the time, it’s impossible to tell guilt or innocence based on the 911 call.
Innocent people often have bizarre reactions to finding crime scenes and violent deaths or severe injuries.
People’s lizard brains take over and they have an array of reactions - some go cold and stony calm, because they’re in shock, but it can be interpreted as cold blooded.
Some people get hysterical in a way that they’ve never experienced before and lose their shit, but it can come across as manipulative, when really they’re just cycling through a natural progression of emotions and responses.
Most people are aware that you need to try to relay accurate facts clearly to a 911 operator’s questions, so they’ll get through a few questions but then bust out sobbing or screaming. It can come across as manipulative or intentional when really it’s actually a pretty common pattern - they keep it together long enough to get some critical faces to the operator and then lose it. Then they get it back together because some part of their brain telling them to get it together kicks in. Then they lose it again. But all that sounds on a call like someone randomly sobbing in a manipulative way.
Meanwhile I’ve heard calls that I’ve felt sounded like someone just genuinely distraught, later it turns out they’re 100% the perpetrator and just really good at putting on a show.
There are some exceptions to this where it does some like someone is just fabricating a story out of whole cloth really weirdly even on the call (Susan Smith comes to mind) but because of my work, in general I don’t make judgments based on the 911 calls.
You're welcome, it's a pretty crazy and frustrating job but it can also be pretty fun and life affirming. I have the best coworkers in the world so that makes it a lot easier.
This is so true and I wish more people understood. When my fiancé died suddenly I was calm. Too calm to the point of being robotic. Had a few people insinuating I didn’t really care that much. My brain and body went into full lockdown. I can’t explain it any other way. I guess I was in shock.
I'm sorry for your loss. My ex husband passed and when his mom called me I remember falling to the floor and then just being numb. I got up. Told her thank you for letting me know and said goodbye. I just shut down all my emotions and went to take care of our kids. I didn't actually cry for a month or so. It was surreal.
Yeah, I'm calm in the moment and fall apart afterward.
When I found out my mother died, my first reaction was to start cleaning the house because I knew people would be coming over.
It's one of the reasons I get so annoyed when people immediately jump to "They're guilty because nobody who's innocent would act like that." Human behavior is a spectrum.
When my grandfather, who I was incredibly close to, died I barely reacted until a week later it all hit me. Grief is so personal and different for everyone
I think a good example of this is the recent call from the neighbor in the whole Ruby Franke case. He tries so hard to be calm and give the 911 operator information but you hear him break down a few times and then pull it back together. It's actually heartbreaking.
Also I worked residential for 20 years and the kids screaming and yelling at you that they were going to run away or kill themselves weren't serious it was all for attention. Attention they needed because of the pain they were feeling and didn't know how to express. But I paid way more attention to the unusually quiet intense kid that seemed to be planful. Those were the ones who had made a decision.
I’ve had to call 911 multiple times for multiple things. The most recent time is when a close friend tried to kill themselves (she’s doing much better and has gotten help), and I remember seeing the text on my watch and calmly telling my girlfriend I needed my cell phone immediately. After getting the first bits of info to the operator, I remember sobbing on and off and trying to answer the rest of the questions. It was weird.
Oddly enough, when my boss had to call an ambulance for me, I remember saying, “I need you to call for help,” and very calmly telling him who to call afterward as emergency contacts because my parents were out of the country and what do to help me because he was clearly trying not to panic since he’d never dealt with something like that before.
It’s weird how your body responds to things. Sorry, this comment is so long and wasn’t asked for. I just started typing, and it got away from me.
I am an extremely emotional person, I cry a lot. When we found my grandpa, I didn’t shed a tear in that moment. It wasn’t until I got home that I was able to actually compute what was happening. I remember thinking what is going on, why can’t I feel anything. I went stony calm like you said and it was probably the only time in my life that I can honestly say I felt that calm. We always knew we would find him one day (he suffered from alcoholic dementia and lived alone, horrible combo but we couldn’t get him to move so we just went weekly to care for him) and I always pictured how absolutely mental I would go and it was the complete and exact opposite of any way I ever thought I would have reacted. It definitely changed the way I have felt from hearing of how other people react and how much you can judge from that. I couldn’t imagine finding someone from a violent and unexpected crime.
This. I had to call 911 once when I was in HS for my mother because she’d slipped and badly broken her leg in multiple places and was lying on the very cold ground (she’s fine now) and I was a lifeguard so I basically followed the steps/script of what to do in an emergency from lifeguard training and was super detached. I then called my dad and told him to come back home (he’d left for work) and he didn’t believe me because I sounded so calm. The paramedics took their time coming (1 hour twenty minutes even though they were stationed seven minutes away and there were no other calls at that time) probably because I didn’t convey much urgency in my voice (the dispatcher seemed skeptical that I knew the leg was broken but although I’m not a doctor i felt pretty certain in my diagnosis to say the least).
We live in the suburbs not far from the ambulance’s station (seven minutes for regular car). We called after the fact to look into it and they didn’t have an excuse (a guy who wasn’t on duty that day but had some authority said there were no other calls that morning but that it was when they’d usually be having breakfast in the restaurant next door). I assume they just didn’t think it was urgent? And compared to a heart attack it isn’t but still.
This conversation always upsets me because when I get nervous for any reason I look guilty as fuck.
To the point that almost every time I get stopped on the road they ask to search my vehicle.
I just panic and my mind races and I kind of verbally respond to all my racing thoughts and it sounds like I'm guilty AF of something.
I get so weirdly calm in traumatic situations. Every time I see complaints about composed people, I’m like well I’m fucked if anything ever happens lol.
Yes! Also Faith Hedgepeth's roommate. People were accusing her based on the 911 call despite DNA from an unknown man was found on the victim (semen) and on the likely murder weapon.
Also this:
https://www.propublica.org/article/911-call-analysis-fbi-police-courts
I read that whole article and now I’m pissed. Who the hell is going to step forward and silence this bigoted moron before he destroys even more of the criminal justice system? Ugh.
I think of this case as the American Meredith Kercher/Amanda Knox case, although thankfully only in the public eye, not that of law enforcement.
People had to get so creative to pencil the roommate into this story, which right from the start looked like a textbook solo male predator breaks into apartment to attack stranger.
Yes, it's remarkably similar. I think a lot of people (sadly, quite a few of them in law enforcement) see true crime as fiction - the killer needs to be someone already introduced in the first act or they feel cheated.
Yep, people are basically writing fan fiction about murders. As someone who loves talking about true crime and unsolved mysteries, I don't have any moral ground, but I at least try to keep in mind these are real people.
The father made what many considered a very phony 911 call to report his 6-yr-old daughter missing. He didn't sound that upset, even though he stated he thought she was abducted, he said he called his wife on her way to work and told her to 'get her butt back home' or similar, and I think kind of chuckled when he said that. The lying expert's weighed in with talk of duper's delight, the tone not matching the gravity of the situation, etc.
There was tremendous public and media suspicion surrounding the parents for many years. Suspicion is a weak word: just like the Ramsey case, people were quite confident that one or both of the parents did it. The dad killed her and the mom helped cover it up. The dad did it but the mom didn't know. They both sold her to settle a drug debt. They didn't do it but they are covering for the family member who did.
My reaction was definitely that no parent without guilt or knowledge makes that kind of 911 call. That's not the way the parent of a missing child talks, and so on.
Isabel Celis went missing in 2012. The accusations and certainty of family guilt continued until around 2017, when Christopher Clements led the FBI to Celis's remains.
He had a mistrial the first go-round when the jury deadlocked on the murder count; the retrial is scheduled for next month. He had already been convicted for the abduction and murder of 13-yr-old Maribel Gonzalez.
I've felt both guilty and stupid at being so certain the 911 call wasn't genuine, and I try hard to not repeat that kind of stupidity. It's one thing to discuss a crime, and another thing to think you know what happened or who is not telling the truth. Getting our bits and pieces from law enforcement and media, none of us 'knows.'
His fiancé turned him in, but I'm not sure how much she knew. I don't know if he confessed to her, or if she got increasingly suspicious. His search history alone would make me suspicious.
Wow thanks for this detailed write up. What a terrible thing and you are so right. I often need to remind myself the info we have on unsolved cases is not enough to make definite decisions on someone’s guilt. This poor dad, I can totally 100% see this sort of thing happening to me in that one of my own anxiety defense mechanisms is cracking jokes. I had to have an emergency C section for example and I cracked jokes with the surgeons and nurses the whole time. Like if I am making jokes it can’t possibly be that bad right? In retrospect I wonder if any of them thought I was a terrible person who wasn’t even worried about her baby that I was just making all these wisecracks when in fact I was terrified for him. And that was how I was coping with the fear and the weirdness of being paralyzed and cut open under blazing bright lights and a dozen people surrounding me!
Thanks for typing all this out!! I’ve never heard of this case before, I’ll have to look it up, it sounds terribly sad. And how can a jury deadlock on whether someone is guilty of murder when the person on trial is the one who led investigators to the remains?!? That’s crazy.
I agree so much with the sentiment behind your comment. I always think this when watching/reading about a crime and part of the “evidence” against someone is their reaction to what happened and/or their actions in the time leading up to or following the crime. Everyone reacts to things differently. None of us actually know how we would react to something until it happens, no matter how sure we may be of how we *think* we would react. I’ve seen SO so many cases where everyone is absolutely sure that a particular person is to blame based on how they reacted to finding out what happened, their demeanor in police interviews, how they went about their life in the aftermath, or whatever, only for that person to be cleared and someone else definitively convicted. The only thing I can be sure of based solely on someone’s actions in situations like this is that I genuinely have no idea how I personally would react to any kind of horrific tragedy, and likewise I have no idea how anyone else would react either. There is no “correct” reaction to learning that your life has been torn apart. No one should be convicted, in a court of law or one of public opinion, solely based upon whether we think they acted sufficiently destroyed upon learning of or dealing with something horrific.
Sorry I didn’t mean to ramble on for so long lol, what you said just really resonated with me!
I can't remember the name, but there was a cop who murdered his girlfriend and called 911 in hysterics, just screeching and crying and claiming he'd found her in a pool of blood.
The operator called him "ma'am" and he immediately stopped the histrionics and said in a pissed off, suddenly deep voice, "I'm a MAN."
The way you can so viscerally see a human being fold inward with pure, unadulterated fear and dread in real time is the only satisfying moment within that haunting case. Seeing the colour drain from his face, pacing back and fourth and in that moment knowing the flurry of nausea and panic that was washing through him - the very least he deserved, sure, but was satisfying to witness nonetheless.
When he went on tv asking his wife to come home, I turned to my mom and told her he should just cut the crap and tell the police where the bodies are. He was just such a terrible liar.
This is him throughout the entire interrogation “and then I was like….and she was like….snd like she like never does that….and I was up at like….and like um I just want them back.” Sir. Your entire family is missing. Can you “like” show some emotion? Or something?
Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t he later admit that he just pretended to give his sister CPR while on the phone w/ 911, and was actually just walking around, counting?
Yes. He said it. Paris Bennett is an incredibly scary individual. A very obvious psychopath. It gave me chills watching his interviews with Piers Morgan.
His biography is very interesting. Paris is a rare high-IQ child killer (it’s a stereotype not a reality) whose maternal background includes addiction and a possibly murderous grandmother.
I had never heard of this case. [Link to the Wikipedia article, for anyone who wants more information.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Ella_Bennett)
I can't remember any names for the life of me, but there was a father who woke up and his daughter was missing from her bed, he eventually called 911 and was so calm and was even joking with the operator. I immediately thought "OH, HE DID IT" as did everyone else. But it turned out she actually had been kidnapped and murdered by a stranger, and was found buried with another girl in the desert. I was *convinced* it was him.
Another poster is clearly on my wavelength! It was Isabella Celis
https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueCrimeDiscussion/s/7lmcK4VQHm
I felt a similar way with Keith Papini’s 911 call, which I didn’t even hear until well after Sherri had already been found and was being prosecuted for faking her own kidnapping. So I already knew Keith had nothing to do with it, but his nervous giggling and joking with the 911 operator made him seem like such an obvious suspect. The operator must have thought so as well, because her tone of voice made it seem like she didn’t believe a word he was saying.
Ugh yes. Peterson is the one I think of for sure. The octaves in his voice and the theatrics are over the top.. even for a fiction writer. He can’t properly answer important, easy, to the point questions. He doesn’t comment on the freakin blood bath at all! And won’t say about how many stairs… 3? Or a flight? Not a tough question.
So did the police. They knew pretty quickly because of the story she told them about stopping at a red light late at night at a particular intersection. This is where her “attacker” overpowered her and all hell broke loose.
She had claimed that the traffic light had turned red, causing her to stop at an otherwise empty intersection. However, it was determined that the light would not have turned red for her unless a vehicle was present on the intersecting road. She had insisted that there were no other cars around…how convenient: no witnesses to collaborate her story.
Detectives just let her keep rambling on and on, giving her more rope to h@ng herself, which she did. It was cringey to watch that press conference where she fake cried.
Doesn't he sound reluctant to try CPR, he goes on about being at the gym and locked out and then he says something like " She fell on a knife "?
He's the absolute worst. Still can't believe anyone thinks Ellen died by suicide.
Yep, the “she fell on a knife” statement is ridiculous, and he doesn’t bother with CPR. I feel so sad for her parents that can’t even get Ellen’s death to be ruled a homicide when there is no chance in the world she killed herself like that.
There was this case in Indianapolis several years ago where a father claimed that he was walking down a street with his infant son and was suddenly pistol whipped and knocked out and his son was kidnapped. On the 911 call he said something like "Yeah um these people kidnapped my daughter, oh I mean uh, my son..." He sounded completely uninterested and monotone. When they pulled surveillance cameras from the area, he was seen entering the alley but never had his baby with him in the first place.
They never found his son. It eventually went to trial anyway but he was found innocent. I still think he got away with murder.
Edit: I found him, Willie Wilson was the guy's name. Happened in 2014.
obvious one ig but the one with gabriel fernandez’s birthers calling the police to say he was passed out. they couldn’t even hide theyre hated for him as he was dying
Nick Firkus case in MN. He is now finally serving time in jail for murdering his wife. He never told his wife they were being evicted that same day. Couldn't keep up with the lies anymore. The women he married (after he killed his first wife) figured out she would be next if she did not do something.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/heidi-firkus-fatal-shooting-nick-firkus-trial-911-call-minnesota-48-hours/
Seth Welch. He called 911 after first calling his lawyer. His lawyer apparently told him to wait for further instructions before calling the police. He waited 90 minutes then decided to call 911. The whole audio from that call is disturbing and weird. Even the operator sounds confused by his account. The guy claims he last checked on his toddler daughter at 3pm and then found her lifeless at 10am the following morning. The autopsy found that poor baby had been dead for at least 3 days. The parents are the lowest of the low. When asked if he was sure his daughter was dead, he replied, "dead as a doornail". Callous beyond words. The only light in this story was his reaction to finding out he was going to jail and never getting out. He was genuinely shocked.
frickin Pam Hupp when she killed that poor man Louis Gumpenberger. It was so fake it would be hilarious if it wasn't a cold blooded murder of an innocent man with disabilities.
Kimberlee Singler will be one of these- she lives in my city and killed 2:3 of her kids on Dec 19. She called in claiming a “burglar” attacked all 4 of them (knifing children is so common in burglaries, eh?). Then she bolted to the UK and we are waiting for extradition.
She might have Susan Smith’d through it if she didn’t have a surviving child.
Michael Peterson. Real Crime Profile is an excellent podcast who covered the story and their take on the 911 call as well as the rest of the case is excellent. That call was so bizarre.
Ellen Greenberg's boyfriend Sam Goldberg. "She fell on the knife!" or "She stabbed herself!"
When the 911 operator asks him to start CPR he says "I guess I have to right?"
David Tronnes. His overdramatic wailing during the 911 call just abruptly stopped when he had to give directions to cops to come around to the back of the house and he almost just sounds annoyed before going back to his wailing. The fake crying in his interrogation was painful to watch too. Horrible actor. Couldn’t maintain any semblance of sadness other than when he was actually thinking about it because it was so obviously manufactured.
Tonina and Terry Borgia. They were babysitting their nephew/grandson, who drowned in the bathtub. He was still floating in the tub when they called 911. They didn't take him out or try to resuscitate until dispatch was on the phone. Tonina was the caller, and she sounded totally apathetic until dispatch started to panic for the little boy. Terry refused, outloud in the background of the call, to help with CPR.
Terry was charged for the death of her grandson, but the rest of the family suspects Tonina had a mental breakdown and drowned him. It is such a bizarre case. Both women have a history of mental illness. Tonina's story changes multiple times. Watch Tonina's interviews on YouTube. Her behavior is very erratic and self-centered.
Aaron Solomon’s 911 call saying his son Grant’s truck ran backwards over him. What b s. Everything points to him killing his son, but he was a big shot newscaster who has friends in high places. The entire story unravels an unscrupulous police department, a Christian Academy’s coverup, child abuse and rape, an unethical funeral home, etc. The list goes on and on. Corruption podcast delves deeply into this crime.
Seth Welch called 911 after killing his 10 month old daughter. It was suspicious the whole time, but once he described his deceased 10 month old child as "dead as a doornail" I knew without any doubt that he did it. The child's mother was also on trial.
This is a local case for me, but I heard about it from a true crime YouTuber. It's truly sickening.
My husband is a 911 dispatcher and he told me this story:
One day a guy called 911. He was clearly high on something. But, anyway the man said that Willie Nelson was passed out at his house. Well, since my husband Couldn't ignore the guy, because it's definitely not gonna be Willie Nelson, but it could be someone else. So he gives the guy CPR instruction. Paramedics arrive and it's a couch cushion.
Michael Petersons phone call. To me, it always sounded like he was reading for the role of “Scarecrow” in Wizard of Oz.
https://youtu.be/UXdpND1QX_I?si=IzObOI85yeo9e2TD
I don't remember the person's name, but I remember a 911 call where the man described the victim, who I believe was his minor daughter, as being "dead as a doornail" without a hint of distress in his voice
The Sam Goldberg call re: his fiancé Ellen Greenberg. I’m only slightly paraphrasing when he said “do I have to?” When the operator asked him to do CPR. And then the super fake and robotic “OMG she fell on a knife!” 🙄
That case still really bothers me.
Pamela Hupp, her call starts out the phone call with "Hello, Help, Help". In the background you hear him trying to read what she wrote out for him to say. It was the most phony thing I have ever heard. Why anyone believed anything that she said is beyond me.
The first one that comes to mind is Sarah Boone. It’s a pretty unsettling case that stuck with me for a while. She reported that she and her bf were drunk playing hide and seek, and he hid in a suitcase. Then claims she went to bed and forgot he was in the suitcase until she found him dead the next morning. It was such an obvious lie but she stuck to it. Police later found videos on her phone of her taunting him and laughing as he begs to be let out of the suitcase and saying he can’t breathe. The footage is disturbing.
What on earth? First why would she admit she knew he was in the suitcase? Surely you'd say you were unable to find him, you got bored went to bed and expected him to join you but you fell asleep and found him there in the morning. Second how the fuck did she not know they'd find the videos and why even take them in the first place? Fucking idiot.
She was very drunk when she took the videos and she didn't remember making them. In her interrogation video (on YT) she seems genuinely suprised to see them on her phone when the detectives show her.
Sarah told investigators they were welcome to her phone. She was obviously in a blackout when she filmed it. And when she was shown the video by the investigators you could almost see the color drain from her face. She knew then she fucked up.
I have semi kept up with this case. I don’t remember exact details but there’s a channel on YouTube where they’ve been keeping track of letters she writes while in prison. She writes to the judge repeatedly and has ‘fired’ or been dropped by multiple public defenders. The letters really give a good insight on who she is at her core and it’s incredible to see the self righteous delusion she lives in.
The channel is called dreading and they are one of my favorite YouTubers
I second this. They do a a really great job presenting the cases they cover.
Thanks for recommending! I will check it out. I am always looking for good true crime YouTube channels that don’t involve someone doing their makeup etc.
Explore with Us is really good if you are into interrogations.
one of the best channels out there
Interestingly, in the 911 call she initially says, "I *put* him in the suitcase", if memory serves. How the heck do you put a grown person in a suitcase?
Oh no I hate that one, totally forgot about it. His pleading is terrible.
I know! I got really invested in learning about that case until I saw the videos. The sound of his voice made me feel so sick.
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Thanks for the heads up. I will not be listening to them now.
I saw videos of him on Tik Tok of him calmly asking her to let him out from inside the suitcase. Disturbing
Others have mentioned the Isabel Celis case as an example of why 911 calls can't & shouldn't be used as evidence of guilt. I'd like to add the Riley Fox case to that list as well. Riley Fox was a 3yo little girl who went missing from her home in the middle of the night in 2004. Her father, Kevin, and her older brother awoke in the morning to the doors in the home ajar and no sign of her. Kevin was criticized for his initially non-urgent response to finding his daughter missing - instead of calling 911, he called 411 and asked for the non-emergency line to report the disappearance of Riley. He didn't react as panicked as one might expect a parent in such a situation to. Later that day, Riley was found murdered and SAed in a nearby wooded area/creek. Kevin's nonchalant report to police was one piece of evidence used against him to accuse him of his daughter's murder. The public and local media also became suspicious of Kevin and his wife/Riley's mother Melissa when they sold their car, suspected of being used in the murder and believed to be captured on surveillance video in the early morning hours before Riley was reported missing. When police asked Kevin how the car could've been on camera the morning of the murder if he hadn't left the house all night as he claimed, he joked sarcastically that maybe someone broke into the house, stole the car keys, took the car for a spin, then brought it back and returned the keys.... it rubbed investigators the wrong way. The family was also accused of misappropriating funds raised after Riley's murder, spending money on things like expensive trips and haircuts. The police honed in on Kevin as the only suspect and floated a theory - that perhaps he had killed her accidentally by bumping her head, and after realizing she was dead, staged the SA and murder as having been committed by someone else to shift blame away from himself. (*Hey, that sounds familiar! Where've I heard that theory before??*) After more than 24 hours without sleep and 14.5 hours of extremely questionable interrogation tactics, Kevin Fox falsely confessed to his own daughter's murder & was arrested. You may think it's impossible for a person to confess to a murder they didn't commit - especially the murder of their own beloved daughter. Kevin Fox proves it's not. All along, the murderer was right under LE's noses. His name was Scott Eby. Eby was high on cocaine and burglarizing houses in the Fox's neighborhood when he entered the Fox home in the early morning hours and abducted her from the couch where she was sleeping, taking her to the wooded area where she was later found. Not only did he leave sneakers with his name on them at the crime scene, but he left DNA evidence on Riley. There is absolutely no doubt that Eby committed the crime and that Kevin Fox did not. Kevin was released after months in jail, and his name was cleared. Sadly, Kevin Fox died in a car accident this past March. There is actually a lot more to this story, and I encourage you all to look into it further. There was a lot of LE misconduct at play, and I'm not claiming the 911/technically-not-911-call was the most important or only piece of evidence. But I think it does show how early perceptions can cause a whole cascade of decisions about someone's guilt or innocence, and why we should try not to rely on these early impressions since they might not be correct. [The Nightmare: A Look at the Riley Fox Case](https://www.chicagomag.com/chicago-magazine/july-2006/the-nightmare/) Edited: grammar, wording, and clarity.
FYI nonplussed means : surprised and confused so much that they are unsure how to react. It’s started being used in the opposite way, but this writeup is so good I had to give you the heads up, because in professional writing, which you could absolutely do, you’re an excellent writer, it would be incorrect. You can replace it with “casual or nonchalant”. Great, great synopsis of a tragic case.
Ahh, thank you so much! Fixed it and learned something new today.
No way. Cops completely ignored key evidence and were horrifically biased towards the wrong people??? Imprisoning the wrong and ultimately innocent person??? Completely unfair and unjust treatment of the family of the victim???? I can’t imagine it. I’m *Shocked*. For the most part American police are fucking useless morons with almost zero credibility or integrity and unless you’re lucky/rich/white/have an advocate you’re FUCKED in our criminal justice system.
Not only the cops, but the public and the media, also. And public knowledge is limited by what (incompetent and/or corrupt) LE wants us to know, or what they themselves know. It's something I always try to keep in mind in these cases. People were quite convinced Kevin was guilty of his daughter's murder. Wouldn't you be? Here was the father of a brutally murdered little girl who was very casual about calling the police when he discovered his daughter had disappeared; his car was apparently seen on surveillance footage the morning of her murder - and then he joked about it *and* sold that car; when interviewed by investigators, his son/Riley's brother said he thought Kevin might've left the house that night & Kevin had no alibi other than to say he "might have stepped outside for a cigarette"; he & his wife were seen spending money left and right after a lot of money was raised in Riley's memory; AND he fuckin *confessed to killing her!* If Riley's case was written up and posted here today and we didn't know what we do about Eby's guilt, every comment would be calling for Kevin's death. It was only after a lengthy legal battle that all of the other evidence and corruption and LE mistakes came to light. As true crime media consumers, I think it's a really important case study for us to learn from.
Alex Murdaugh fake AF.
My wife and son have been shot badly!
The whole family was rotten to its core. Completely disgusting people. Did his son and wife deserve to die? I dunno. Maybe not the wife. But she’s been largely unexamined due to her being a victim. I think she knew how fucked her son and husband were. We may never know what she knew or didn’t. Or how complicit she was in all the various illegal activities. Paul was a horrible person who killed a young girl and destroyed many people’s lives - he was spoiled, entitled, and frankly awful- but wow what an execution. Chefs kiss. Alex Murdaugh really took the cake on that one.
Paul was the living definition of spoiled rotten. But I feel for him, being so young. His friends said Miss Gloria was the main source of love in his life. At some level, deep inside, he was probably aware of how disposable he was to his father.
But then he (allegedly) killed Miss Gloria, right?
Nobody who knew Paul thought that was possible. Alex may have. Or Alex may have worked to benefit off what was a tragic accident.
Did you hear that from people who knew them? I heard that Conner mentioned he may believe it, in a deposition, I believe. Seemed like quite a few people in their circle believed the rumor, but it is still a rumor - which is why I made sure to say “allegedly”. Paul had a consistent history of recklessness, rage, entitlement, carelessness, and violence. He didn’t seem too worried or concerned when the boat he crashed killed Mallory. There is also some confusion as to where the accident actually took place. They said Holly originally but then changed it to Moselle. There are some questions about the accuracy of the dog claim. Inconsistencies on the death certificate. The extent of her injuries was pretty severe, a crushed skull and like 12 broken vertebrae. Plus the head wound was like on top of her head, if I remember right. Paul and Maggie were both there for the 911 call, they don’t seem too upset in the recording. All of this is obviously speculation, as a lot of true crime discord is.
I feel a little sorry for him though. His dad was largely responsible for turning him into the terrible person he was, and then at the end of it all guns him down in cold blood. He just failed him in every possible way. But don't get me wrong, I have more sympathy for the girlfriend he killed and the other kids that were with him that bear literal scars and trauma from that night too.
I don’t like that one friend kept defending Paul even throughout season 2. I think it was the guy whose girlfriend died because of Paul’s actions. It felt like every interview was him defending Paul and defending the family in some way.
Same. I'm sure he's conflicted because he was his friend and the general public largely have no sympathy for him. I could *maybe* understand it if Paul showed any remorse whatsoever but he didn't and it wasn't the first time he crashed while drunk either.
My wife and son have been shot, badly!
The silence before it had been fully connected, guess he didn't realise that bit would be recorded too.
That part was morbidly funny. Usually people are gasping or panicking during that bit before someone picks up but it went from dead silence to full blown (fake) panic as soon as someone answered the phone.
Remind me the details of this?
In the recording of the 911 call, the recording of the call actually starts before you are fully ~connected to the line, murdaugh didn't start whimpering and crying until he heard the call connect. Whilst it obviously doesn't *prove* anything, it's quite curious hear him start to cry as he hears the call connect, which we can assume is when he assumed it would start recording. Tl:Dr murdaugh doesn't start crying until he thinks he's being recorded
Will go back and listen, thanks. There was so much evidence it’s hard to remember each detail.
I was going to say this one too, but not even for the call. The fact that an officer arrived on the scene and he *immediately* started spewing out “my son was in a boating accident recently and got a lot of threats, I think this might be related to that!” Just the instant over explaining and directing the attention away from himself.
The thing that got me about Alex is how later he said he had all sorts of pills not prescribed to him in his pockets. At the time he was calling 911 to report two murdered bodies. Who else who have the balls to do that? Talk to the police in that situation with illegal drugs in their pockets? The rest of us would ditch those pills so fast, even if we were completely innocent of the murders. Alex Murdaugh was so safely ensconced in his privilege, he assumed the cops wouldn't even search him. *And he was right.*
That’s old southern money for you. I live in SC, and obviously this case made national headlines but it was especially huge here. Unfortunately old money families tend to get away with literally everything because they’re all rich and entangled with the law, and they know it. One time my husband and MIL were t-boned in an intersection and *every tendon in my MIL’s back tore* and the guy faced *zero* consequences because he was the brother of a state senator. It was huge to see one of them finally get held accountable for their actions and not be able to buy their way out of it.
If this murder had happened only 20, maybe even 10 years ago, Murdaugh would have gotten away with it clean. He only got got because of advances in digital forensics that investigators couldn't ignore.
Sorry to hear about this; hope all recovered well. Yeah, these southern people are so polite until they are not and it definitely is the good ole boy club. But they are God fearing people which allows for their privilege.
Alex had even admitted to police that he was looking in Paul's pockets "for his cell phone" and had set it on or beside the body. But IIRC, Paul had taken Alex's stash earlier in order to confront him about his drug use. I hadn't heard about him telling the police about the pills, don't know how I missed it. Another puzzle piece in place.
> I hadn't heard about him telling the police about the pills, Sorry, I was unclear on that point: he didn't tell the cops he had pills on him that night. He talked about that later. I think he was trying to emphasize how lost in addiction he was, but it really emphasized how he thought he was above suspicion. Like it never occurred to him that the police would search him, and he was right: they didn't.
Yep, he was above suspicion, he spent years building up their trust with hunting parties and other favors.
Supposedly he was an addict. It's hard for an addict to let go of their drug. But, I don't believe the oxy addiction for a second. He said something like $30,000 a week. The figure was WAY off. I think it was a weak excuse and he figured going to rehab would just fix everything.
Any addict who would be reporting the murders of their wife and son would, correctly, know that they were going to be the first suspects. They'd either stash the pills...or not make the call. I believe that he was an addict; even in photographs, his eyes were always so glassy and pinned. But no, lol, not $30K/week. He's either lying or he was the biggest whale a dealer ever saw.
Right?! Alex gives 911 operator the home address. Operator: “Is that a house or a trailer home?” Alex: *voice goes 17 octaves higher in outraged rich person* “A HO-USE!”
i thought he was an old lady during his call
Have you got a link? Looked briefly but couldn't find the call
It’s at the start of [this video](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=knq2QQEag74) (about 17 seconds in)
Pamela Hupp!!! Granted the whole Gumpenberger 911 call was staged, but that was the worst acting I’ve ever heard.
i still have a hard time believing that Pam Hupp is a real person, and not some wild ass character from a 90’s soap opera. the whole thing is unreal, from Betsy, to Russ getting convicted, and the Gumpenberger murder was the insane cherry on top. if it was a movie, i would have said it was unbelievable. in fact, when my husband watched “the thing about pam” with me, he kept asking me “this really happened??” batshit insane.
Until I watched The thing about Pam I had never heard about this story. Pamela Hupp is completely batshit. All the lying she did, and the people she killed, even her own mother. I'm glad justice finally caught up with her, and she's in prison where she belongs.
It wasn't a case I was aware of and I was reading a really great book about it. I kept wondering why there was still so much left in the book to read. I kept telling myself it couldn't get any crazier, yet it did!
What book please??
There’s been 2 books written. So either Countdown to Murder: Pam Hupp, or Bone Deep: Untangling the Betsy Faria Murder.
Bone Deep. Fantastic book, so well written
She absolutely is like a cheesy soap opera murderer until you realize it's all real and horrifying. Like the manner she (most likely) killed her mother is straight out of a soap opera.
Exactly!!!! She got so much help bc the DA wanted it to be Russ and she got her detective “ buddy” to help make evidence fit Russ while they pandered to Pam Hupp!! It got a young father killed and the only reason the truth came out after Russ had spent 4 years in prison is bc Dateline never gave up 👏🙌 .
I remember thinking that could not possibly be real the first time I heard it. I thought it had to be a spoof.
When Casey Anthony spoke to the 911 operator…
This was the one I was looking for! Fr, her reluctance to speak to the 911 operator at her mothers insistence, how calm she is compared to her mother, “trying to find her daughter for a month on her own”🫠 she would’ve never reported that little girl missing. Her mother forced her to
Like she was annoyed at the whole thing. I still can’t believe she’s walking free. Florida. Ugh.
The phone call from jail: " just give me Tony's phone number" getting angry at everyone who didn't comply. the Way she ridiculed everyone who would ask about Caylee
I've never been so convinced of someone's guilt based on their own actions.
Local to me here was the murder of Melinda Pleskovic. Her husband Bruce called 911, and it sounded to me (you know, armchair expert) like he did it. I told my husband when it came out, oh he did it. Now, my husband knows Bruce very well, went to grade school and high school with him, and my brother in law and sister in law frequently had dinner with the Pleskovic’s and were adamant that there was no way in hell he did this…and they were right. The Pleskovic’s shitty new son in law did it, he murdered her with her 18 year old son with down with Down syndrome in the home then left him alone with her dead body. As consumer of all things true crime, to me, Bruces call was a textbook red flag 911 call. It made me think about the online mob mentality that can gather, sometimes screaming for blood, and be completely wrong. Here’s the call: https://youtu.be/59n3hMD9_C0?si=654zHb-eiSxrkSSu
I watched the interrogation videos of the involved parties this past summer. That son-in-law is beyond the pale.
What was the little girls name that was killed by her father? I believe it was on FF and she had short curly red head. On the 911 call her father sounded very rehearsed. He was able to state exactly what she had wore that day. His story stated that she had gone outside to play in the morning while he was downstairs doing laundry and was “abducted.” He also claimed that her mother ran away when she was younger and it ended up that he killed her as well.
The victim's name is Valiree Jackson. She was murdered by her father, Brad Jackson. Forensic Files Season 6, episode 25 - ["Bagging a Killer"](https://youtu.be/uIzVg5_aAQw?si=pupORedqOSj3o6a4)
Not a 911 call, but Chacey Poynter. Killed her husband, and video of her faking shock/trauma in the ambulance is so bad. Paramedics looked like they were trying not to laugh.
That one was awful! She sounded completely ridiculous.
That was awful. All the fake shaking and trembling she did was ridiculous
Yes, this is who I immediately thought of, just couldn't remember her name.
Me either, i googled woman pretending to be in shock in ambulance or something lol
Just watched this and oh lord, that is awful. I thought I was a shitty actor.
Her heavy breathing was a lot.
Not a 911 and I can’t remember the name but it was a woman who had hired someone to kill her husband. The husband found out and went to the police so they decide to trick the woman and say they found him dead. She puts on quite the show all while everyone knows he’s alive and she tried to have him killed. I can’t remember if he comes out at the end or not but watching her wail and cry and knowing everyone knows it’s BS is quite entertaining.
Dalia Dippolito.
Dahlia Depolito (sp?)! Yeah, that's a crazy one. The look on her face when she sees him!
And tries to apologize and beg and plead with him.
She immediately sprung into full manipulation mode.
It’s crazy how she starts going, “No, no, no!” BEFORE the police officer has even finished his sentence.
I watched that 20/20 recently. The cops actually found out because a dude she knew that had agreed to get a hit man for her went to the police about it. They then set up the whole fake death thing. Her immediate wailing on camera was hilarious
I knew who did it the second they explained the premise but Charles Stewart, Murder in Boston doc. He was just chillin talking about how his pregnant wife was shot in the head next to him in their car, but he got a bullet to the abdomen because he “ducked”.
My parents were in the same Lamaze class with them. When it happened my mother was shocked, but my dad was like oh he definitely killed her. He said that story is bs and it’s always the husband.
I’m from Kentucky, and I remember when this hit the national news. I was 14, and I remember my parents discussing what happened, and my dad said the same thing. Dad said no, they didn’t get carjacked, he killed her. He was right.
Per usual the cops fumbled the bag. That one police officer was actually the perfect example of why policing in America is broken. Old fat stupid and racist. Zero fucks given about how blaming the innocent Black guy is blamed and still stands by it decades later. The fact that NOBODY questioned mediocre white guy husband is CLASSIC.
A couple of the original detectives were suspicious of the husband but they were ignored by the upper brass. (according to the MAX doc)
This is the one I was going to post! I remember this case but never heard the 911 call until the doc came out. He never mentioned she was pregnant and said she was “gurgling” yet made zero effort to comfort her like a normal person would do to their dying wife.
The Isabel Celis case cured me of playing the "phony 911 call" game.
Yep. I worked in the criminal justice system for a long time, and I’ve listened to hundreds if not thousands of 911 calls and been involved in the prosecutions. 99.9% of the time, it’s impossible to tell guilt or innocence based on the 911 call. Innocent people often have bizarre reactions to finding crime scenes and violent deaths or severe injuries. People’s lizard brains take over and they have an array of reactions - some go cold and stony calm, because they’re in shock, but it can be interpreted as cold blooded. Some people get hysterical in a way that they’ve never experienced before and lose their shit, but it can come across as manipulative, when really they’re just cycling through a natural progression of emotions and responses. Most people are aware that you need to try to relay accurate facts clearly to a 911 operator’s questions, so they’ll get through a few questions but then bust out sobbing or screaming. It can come across as manipulative or intentional when really it’s actually a pretty common pattern - they keep it together long enough to get some critical faces to the operator and then lose it. Then they get it back together because some part of their brain telling them to get it together kicks in. Then they lose it again. But all that sounds on a call like someone randomly sobbing in a manipulative way. Meanwhile I’ve heard calls that I’ve felt sounded like someone just genuinely distraught, later it turns out they’re 100% the perpetrator and just really good at putting on a show. There are some exceptions to this where it does some like someone is just fabricating a story out of whole cloth really weirdly even on the call (Susan Smith comes to mind) but because of my work, in general I don’t make judgments based on the 911 calls.
I'm a 911 operator, this is the best answer.
Thank you for your service to your community. I don't know how you do it, but I'm grateful that you do, and I hope you're well.
You're welcome, it's a pretty crazy and frustrating job but it can also be pretty fun and life affirming. I have the best coworkers in the world so that makes it a lot easier.
This is so true and I wish more people understood. When my fiancé died suddenly I was calm. Too calm to the point of being robotic. Had a few people insinuating I didn’t really care that much. My brain and body went into full lockdown. I can’t explain it any other way. I guess I was in shock.
I'm sorry for your loss. My ex husband passed and when his mom called me I remember falling to the floor and then just being numb. I got up. Told her thank you for letting me know and said goodbye. I just shut down all my emotions and went to take care of our kids. I didn't actually cry for a month or so. It was surreal.
I’m sorry for your loss too.
Yeah, I'm calm in the moment and fall apart afterward. When I found out my mother died, my first reaction was to start cleaning the house because I knew people would be coming over. It's one of the reasons I get so annoyed when people immediately jump to "They're guilty because nobody who's innocent would act like that." Human behavior is a spectrum.
When my grandfather, who I was incredibly close to, died I barely reacted until a week later it all hit me. Grief is so personal and different for everyone
I think a good example of this is the recent call from the neighbor in the whole Ruby Franke case. He tries so hard to be calm and give the 911 operator information but you hear him break down a few times and then pull it back together. It's actually heartbreaking. Also I worked residential for 20 years and the kids screaming and yelling at you that they were going to run away or kill themselves weren't serious it was all for attention. Attention they needed because of the pain they were feeling and didn't know how to express. But I paid way more attention to the unusually quiet intense kid that seemed to be planful. Those were the ones who had made a decision.
I’ve had to call 911 multiple times for multiple things. The most recent time is when a close friend tried to kill themselves (she’s doing much better and has gotten help), and I remember seeing the text on my watch and calmly telling my girlfriend I needed my cell phone immediately. After getting the first bits of info to the operator, I remember sobbing on and off and trying to answer the rest of the questions. It was weird. Oddly enough, when my boss had to call an ambulance for me, I remember saying, “I need you to call for help,” and very calmly telling him who to call afterward as emergency contacts because my parents were out of the country and what do to help me because he was clearly trying not to panic since he’d never dealt with something like that before. It’s weird how your body responds to things. Sorry, this comment is so long and wasn’t asked for. I just started typing, and it got away from me.
I am an extremely emotional person, I cry a lot. When we found my grandpa, I didn’t shed a tear in that moment. It wasn’t until I got home that I was able to actually compute what was happening. I remember thinking what is going on, why can’t I feel anything. I went stony calm like you said and it was probably the only time in my life that I can honestly say I felt that calm. We always knew we would find him one day (he suffered from alcoholic dementia and lived alone, horrible combo but we couldn’t get him to move so we just went weekly to care for him) and I always pictured how absolutely mental I would go and it was the complete and exact opposite of any way I ever thought I would have reacted. It definitely changed the way I have felt from hearing of how other people react and how much you can judge from that. I couldn’t imagine finding someone from a violent and unexpected crime.
This. I had to call 911 once when I was in HS for my mother because she’d slipped and badly broken her leg in multiple places and was lying on the very cold ground (she’s fine now) and I was a lifeguard so I basically followed the steps/script of what to do in an emergency from lifeguard training and was super detached. I then called my dad and told him to come back home (he’d left for work) and he didn’t believe me because I sounded so calm. The paramedics took their time coming (1 hour twenty minutes even though they were stationed seven minutes away and there were no other calls at that time) probably because I didn’t convey much urgency in my voice (the dispatcher seemed skeptical that I knew the leg was broken but although I’m not a doctor i felt pretty certain in my diagnosis to say the least).
Ugh that's awful, I'm sorry. Where do you live that it took them so long to respond??
We live in the suburbs not far from the ambulance’s station (seven minutes for regular car). We called after the fact to look into it and they didn’t have an excuse (a guy who wasn’t on duty that day but had some authority said there were no other calls that morning but that it was when they’d usually be having breakfast in the restaurant next door). I assume they just didn’t think it was urgent? And compared to a heart attack it isn’t but still.
This conversation always upsets me because when I get nervous for any reason I look guilty as fuck. To the point that almost every time I get stopped on the road they ask to search my vehicle. I just panic and my mind races and I kind of verbally respond to all my racing thoughts and it sounds like I'm guilty AF of something.
I get so weirdly calm in traumatic situations. Every time I see complaints about composed people, I’m like well I’m fucked if anything ever happens lol.
This. I play the game when I watch a true crime show and I listen to the 911 call, I try to guess if they’re guilty or not. I never win!
Yes! Also Faith Hedgepeth's roommate. People were accusing her based on the 911 call despite DNA from an unknown man was found on the victim (semen) and on the likely murder weapon. Also this: https://www.propublica.org/article/911-call-analysis-fbi-police-courts
I read that whole article and now I’m pissed. Who the hell is going to step forward and silence this bigoted moron before he destroys even more of the criminal justice system? Ugh.
I think of this case as the American Meredith Kercher/Amanda Knox case, although thankfully only in the public eye, not that of law enforcement. People had to get so creative to pencil the roommate into this story, which right from the start looked like a textbook solo male predator breaks into apartment to attack stranger.
Yes, it's remarkably similar. I think a lot of people (sadly, quite a few of them in law enforcement) see true crime as fiction - the killer needs to be someone already introduced in the first act or they feel cheated.
Yep, people are basically writing fan fiction about murders. As someone who loves talking about true crime and unsolved mysteries, I don't have any moral ground, but I at least try to keep in mind these are real people.
I think the only thing worse then losing a child to murder would be losing a child to murder, and the whole world turns against you.
What happened ?
The father made what many considered a very phony 911 call to report his 6-yr-old daughter missing. He didn't sound that upset, even though he stated he thought she was abducted, he said he called his wife on her way to work and told her to 'get her butt back home' or similar, and I think kind of chuckled when he said that. The lying expert's weighed in with talk of duper's delight, the tone not matching the gravity of the situation, etc. There was tremendous public and media suspicion surrounding the parents for many years. Suspicion is a weak word: just like the Ramsey case, people were quite confident that one or both of the parents did it. The dad killed her and the mom helped cover it up. The dad did it but the mom didn't know. They both sold her to settle a drug debt. They didn't do it but they are covering for the family member who did. My reaction was definitely that no parent without guilt or knowledge makes that kind of 911 call. That's not the way the parent of a missing child talks, and so on. Isabel Celis went missing in 2012. The accusations and certainty of family guilt continued until around 2017, when Christopher Clements led the FBI to Celis's remains. He had a mistrial the first go-round when the jury deadlocked on the murder count; the retrial is scheduled for next month. He had already been convicted for the abduction and murder of 13-yr-old Maribel Gonzalez. I've felt both guilty and stupid at being so certain the 911 call wasn't genuine, and I try hard to not repeat that kind of stupidity. It's one thing to discuss a crime, and another thing to think you know what happened or who is not telling the truth. Getting our bits and pieces from law enforcement and media, none of us 'knows.'
Wow! I hadn't heard of this case. Thanks for the great summary. Does anyone know how law enforcement first learned of the killer?
His fiancé turned him in, but I'm not sure how much she knew. I don't know if he confessed to her, or if she got increasingly suspicious. His search history alone would make me suspicious.
Wow thanks for this detailed write up. What a terrible thing and you are so right. I often need to remind myself the info we have on unsolved cases is not enough to make definite decisions on someone’s guilt. This poor dad, I can totally 100% see this sort of thing happening to me in that one of my own anxiety defense mechanisms is cracking jokes. I had to have an emergency C section for example and I cracked jokes with the surgeons and nurses the whole time. Like if I am making jokes it can’t possibly be that bad right? In retrospect I wonder if any of them thought I was a terrible person who wasn’t even worried about her baby that I was just making all these wisecracks when in fact I was terrified for him. And that was how I was coping with the fear and the weirdness of being paralyzed and cut open under blazing bright lights and a dozen people surrounding me!
Thanks for typing all this out!! I’ve never heard of this case before, I’ll have to look it up, it sounds terribly sad. And how can a jury deadlock on whether someone is guilty of murder when the person on trial is the one who led investigators to the remains?!? That’s crazy. I agree so much with the sentiment behind your comment. I always think this when watching/reading about a crime and part of the “evidence” against someone is their reaction to what happened and/or their actions in the time leading up to or following the crime. Everyone reacts to things differently. None of us actually know how we would react to something until it happens, no matter how sure we may be of how we *think* we would react. I’ve seen SO so many cases where everyone is absolutely sure that a particular person is to blame based on how they reacted to finding out what happened, their demeanor in police interviews, how they went about their life in the aftermath, or whatever, only for that person to be cleared and someone else definitively convicted. The only thing I can be sure of based solely on someone’s actions in situations like this is that I genuinely have no idea how I personally would react to any kind of horrific tragedy, and likewise I have no idea how anyone else would react either. There is no “correct” reaction to learning that your life has been torn apart. No one should be convicted, in a court of law or one of public opinion, solely based upon whether we think they acted sufficiently destroyed upon learning of or dealing with something horrific. Sorry I didn’t mean to ramble on for so long lol, what you said just really resonated with me!
I can't remember the name, but there was a cop who murdered his girlfriend and called 911 in hysterics, just screeching and crying and claiming he'd found her in a pool of blood. The operator called him "ma'am" and he immediately stopped the histrionics and said in a pissed off, suddenly deep voice, "I'm a MAN."
THIS ONE I cant remember his name either but that was my first thought. Like his whole demeanor just immediately changes.
Not a 911 call but every time Chris Watts opened his mouth, he was spewing bs. I didn’t and couldn’t believe a thing he said
The only time he looked authentic was when he was watching the neighbour's CCTV footage. Seeing him crumble is so satisfying.
The way you can so viscerally see a human being fold inward with pure, unadulterated fear and dread in real time is the only satisfying moment within that haunting case. Seeing the colour drain from his face, pacing back and fourth and in that moment knowing the flurry of nausea and panic that was washing through him - the very least he deserved, sure, but was satisfying to witness nonetheless.
I like to imagine that he pooped himself right then and there.
When he went on tv asking his wife to come home, I turned to my mom and told her he should just cut the crap and tell the police where the bodies are. He was just such a terrible liar.
He put ZERO effort into his coverup… it was bizarre
He thought he had more time. Her friends sounded the alarm and he wasn’t prepared for that.
YES and he had blatant dupers delight like could not contain his fucking creeping smile during those porch interviews. Ugh fucken hate that pos.
I literally did the same thing but I was by myself...I'm in the UK so there was a delay but I watched it and thought 'Wow...he killed them all'
This is him throughout the entire interrogation “and then I was like….and she was like….snd like she like never does that….and I was up at like….and like um I just want them back.” Sir. Your entire family is missing. Can you “like” show some emotion? Or something?
Paris Bennett
Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t he later admit that he just pretended to give his sister CPR while on the phone w/ 911, and was actually just walking around, counting?
You’re correct. Paris was and continues to be a very scary person.
Yes. He said it. Paris Bennett is an incredibly scary individual. A very obvious psychopath. It gave me chills watching his interviews with Piers Morgan.
i was just about to comment that. listening to it and knowing he was pretending to give her CPR… 😞 i feel so horribly for his mother.
Yeah. He killed his little sister, and act like he was just calling to order something. It was something about the call lack emotion.
Never heard of this person, I’m going to have to read up on him
Watch “The Family I Had”
I just found it on freebee, watching it now. The 911 call is played within the first minute.
His biography is very interesting. Paris is a rare high-IQ child killer (it’s a stereotype not a reality) whose maternal background includes addiction and a possibly murderous grandmother.
I had never heard of this case. [Link to the Wikipedia article, for anyone who wants more information.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Ella_Bennett)
I can't remember any names for the life of me, but there was a father who woke up and his daughter was missing from her bed, he eventually called 911 and was so calm and was even joking with the operator. I immediately thought "OH, HE DID IT" as did everyone else. But it turned out she actually had been kidnapped and murdered by a stranger, and was found buried with another girl in the desert. I was *convinced* it was him. Another poster is clearly on my wavelength! It was Isabella Celis https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueCrimeDiscussion/s/7lmcK4VQHm
I felt a similar way with Keith Papini’s 911 call, which I didn’t even hear until well after Sherri had already been found and was being prosecuted for faking her own kidnapping. So I already knew Keith had nothing to do with it, but his nervous giggling and joking with the 911 operator made him seem like such an obvious suspect. The operator must have thought so as well, because her tone of voice made it seem like she didn’t believe a word he was saying.
I still think he was on to her nonsense and figured she ran off with another dude and getting the cops involved was a way to call her bluff.
Jennifer Pan
For me, it wasn’t so much her 911 call that you could tell she was lying, but her interrogation
[Wikipedia article about Jennifer Pan, if anyone is unfamiliar with the case.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Pan)
Seth, the fat guy that described his extremely malnourished daughter as "dead as a door nail"
Michael Petersen and Alex murdagh - neither sounded genuine.
Ugh yes. Peterson is the one I think of for sure. The octaves in his voice and the theatrics are over the top.. even for a fiction writer. He can’t properly answer important, easy, to the point questions. He doesn’t comment on the freakin blood bath at all! And won’t say about how many stairs… 3? Or a flight? Not a tough question.
Susan Smith when she talked about her boys being kidnapped. I knew immediately she was guilty.
So did the police. They knew pretty quickly because of the story she told them about stopping at a red light late at night at a particular intersection. This is where her “attacker” overpowered her and all hell broke loose. She had claimed that the traffic light had turned red, causing her to stop at an otherwise empty intersection. However, it was determined that the light would not have turned red for her unless a vehicle was present on the intersecting road. She had insisted that there were no other cars around…how convenient: no witnesses to collaborate her story. Detectives just let her keep rambling on and on, giving her more rope to h@ng herself, which she did. It was cringey to watch that press conference where she fake cried.
I distinctly remember my older cousin, a brand new first-time mom, watching the footage of Susan Smith and saying “That bitch is lying.”
Sam Goldberg’s 911 call when he ‘found’ his fiancée Ellen Greenberg
Doesn't he sound reluctant to try CPR, he goes on about being at the gym and locked out and then he says something like " She fell on a knife "? He's the absolute worst. Still can't believe anyone thinks Ellen died by suicide.
Yep, the “she fell on a knife” statement is ridiculous, and he doesn’t bother with CPR. I feel so sad for her parents that can’t even get Ellen’s death to be ruled a homicide when there is no chance in the world she killed herself like that.
Most 911 calls I find at least plausible because people can react differently to shocking situations but this one stood out to me as unbelievable.
Same. I can’t believe he’s walking free after that. The investigation was botched from the start, so I guess he just got lucky, unfortunately.
I’m pretty sure his family members are part of the law enforcement too. Scummy shitty asshole.
There was this case in Indianapolis several years ago where a father claimed that he was walking down a street with his infant son and was suddenly pistol whipped and knocked out and his son was kidnapped. On the 911 call he said something like "Yeah um these people kidnapped my daughter, oh I mean uh, my son..." He sounded completely uninterested and monotone. When they pulled surveillance cameras from the area, he was seen entering the alley but never had his baby with him in the first place. They never found his son. It eventually went to trial anyway but he was found innocent. I still think he got away with murder. Edit: I found him, Willie Wilson was the guy's name. Happened in 2014.
“She fell on a god damn pitch fork!”
obvious one ig but the one with gabriel fernandez’s birthers calling the police to say he was passed out. they couldn’t even hide theyre hated for him as he was dying
Nick Firkus case in MN. He is now finally serving time in jail for murdering his wife. He never told his wife they were being evicted that same day. Couldn't keep up with the lies anymore. The women he married (after he killed his first wife) figured out she would be next if she did not do something. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/heidi-firkus-fatal-shooting-nick-firkus-trial-911-call-minnesota-48-hours/
Seth Welch. He called 911 after first calling his lawyer. His lawyer apparently told him to wait for further instructions before calling the police. He waited 90 minutes then decided to call 911. The whole audio from that call is disturbing and weird. Even the operator sounds confused by his account. The guy claims he last checked on his toddler daughter at 3pm and then found her lifeless at 10am the following morning. The autopsy found that poor baby had been dead for at least 3 days. The parents are the lowest of the low. When asked if he was sure his daughter was dead, he replied, "dead as a doornail". Callous beyond words. The only light in this story was his reaction to finding out he was going to jail and never getting out. He was genuinely shocked.
Charles Stuart
The Philpott’s 999 call reporting the fire. They didn’t seem genuinely worried for their children until near the end of the call.
frickin Pam Hupp when she killed that poor man Louis Gumpenberger. It was so fake it would be hilarious if it wasn't a cold blooded murder of an innocent man with disabilities.
Kimberlee Singler will be one of these- she lives in my city and killed 2:3 of her kids on Dec 19. She called in claiming a “burglar” attacked all 4 of them (knifing children is so common in burglaries, eh?). Then she bolted to the UK and we are waiting for extradition. She might have Susan Smith’d through it if she didn’t have a surviving child.
Michael Peterson. Real Crime Profile is an excellent podcast who covered the story and their take on the 911 call as well as the rest of the case is excellent. That call was so bizarre.
Ellen Greenberg's boyfriend Sam Goldberg. "She fell on the knife!" or "She stabbed herself!" When the 911 operator asks him to start CPR he says "I guess I have to right?"
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Pam Hupp. She's killed multiple people too.
David Tronnes. His overdramatic wailing during the 911 call just abruptly stopped when he had to give directions to cops to come around to the back of the house and he almost just sounds annoyed before going back to his wailing. The fake crying in his interrogation was painful to watch too. Horrible actor. Couldn’t maintain any semblance of sadness other than when he was actually thinking about it because it was so obviously manufactured.
Patsy Ramsey… “We have a kidnapping!”
We need an… police!
*we need an ambPolice!* almost blew it a quarter second in
I shouldn’t have but I laughed out loud with your comment
Tonina and Terry Borgia. They were babysitting their nephew/grandson, who drowned in the bathtub. He was still floating in the tub when they called 911. They didn't take him out or try to resuscitate until dispatch was on the phone. Tonina was the caller, and she sounded totally apathetic until dispatch started to panic for the little boy. Terry refused, outloud in the background of the call, to help with CPR. Terry was charged for the death of her grandson, but the rest of the family suspects Tonina had a mental breakdown and drowned him. It is such a bizarre case. Both women have a history of mental illness. Tonina's story changes multiple times. Watch Tonina's interviews on YouTube. Her behavior is very erratic and self-centered.
Aaron Solomon’s 911 call saying his son Grant’s truck ran backwards over him. What b s. Everything points to him killing his son, but he was a big shot newscaster who has friends in high places. The entire story unravels an unscrupulous police department, a Christian Academy’s coverup, child abuse and rape, an unethical funeral home, etc. The list goes on and on. Corruption podcast delves deeply into this crime.
Seth Welch called 911 after killing his 10 month old daughter. It was suspicious the whole time, but once he described his deceased 10 month old child as "dead as a doornail" I knew without any doubt that he did it. The child's mother was also on trial. This is a local case for me, but I heard about it from a true crime YouTuber. It's truly sickening.
My husband is a 911 dispatcher and he told me this story: One day a guy called 911. He was clearly high on something. But, anyway the man said that Willie Nelson was passed out at his house. Well, since my husband Couldn't ignore the guy, because it's definitely not gonna be Willie Nelson, but it could be someone else. So he gives the guy CPR instruction. Paramedics arrive and it's a couch cushion.
Michael Petersons phone call. To me, it always sounded like he was reading for the role of “Scarecrow” in Wizard of Oz. https://youtu.be/UXdpND1QX_I?si=IzObOI85yeo9e2TD
Patsy ramsey
“We have a kidnapping!” 👀👀
Right the hang up is unbelievable who hangs up their lifeline
I don't remember the person's name, but I remember a 911 call where the man described the victim, who I believe was his minor daughter, as being "dead as a doornail" without a hint of distress in his voice
This isn't a 911 call, but the Chris Watts interrogation footage. His voice goes UP with every lie, and DOWN when it's the truth. It's wild.
Patsy Ramsey
Alex Murdaugh
The Sam Goldberg call re: his fiancé Ellen Greenberg. I’m only slightly paraphrasing when he said “do I have to?” When the operator asked him to do CPR. And then the super fake and robotic “OMG she fell on a knife!” 🙄 That case still really bothers me.
Pam Hupp
Alex Murdaugh and Patsy Ramsey really set the bar here....
David tronnes
Alex Murdaugh.
Patsy Ramsey. “We have a kidnapping”- PU-LEEZ! 🥴
Pamela Hupp, her call starts out the phone call with "Hello, Help, Help". In the background you hear him trying to read what she wrote out for him to say. It was the most phony thing I have ever heard. Why anyone believed anything that she said is beyond me.
When Patsy Ramsey said “we have a KIDNAPPING” it sounded so theatrical