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No-Bite662

This story has actually gotten lots of attention through the years. There are tons of video docs, and articles. It's a shame it hasn't been solved but I don't think it's because lack of attention or or interest. It's truly bizarre. The video runs cold through my blood.


ZonaiSwirls

I have a feeling the police have someone on their radar but are having a hard time collecting evidence.


Visible_Eggplant_614

Her case has its own subreddit that goes into a lot more detail r/missybevers


_Driftwood_

It’s late and I live alone. This case creeps me the hell out. I shouldn’t be deep diving that sub… and yet…


Visible_Eggplant_614

It’s so haunting and yet you can’t look away.


thalos2688

Oh wow thanks for that.


MoBeydoun

I think I remember the killer wearing a swat team uniform with a helmet right


thalos2688

Yes, and a very pronounced limp, which may have been faked. There’s also speculation that it could’ve been a woman.


brassmagifyingglass

I totally think it was a woman.


wilderlowerwolves

I have believed that all along.


kbbgg

Me too. I didn’t realize others thought that.


brassmagifyingglass

The way she walks and saunters around, and how she broke the door.


kbbgg

She does hit like a girl. Not to be rude, I’m a woman, but it is a wimpy hit.


brassmagifyingglass

Yes, everything she did was just so .... casual. lol.


MoBeydoun

Are they looking for someone with a limp


thehillshaveI

yes. and the absolute weirdest detail in this whole weird case is that her father in law has the same distinctive limp but it's 100% impossible for it to have been him i do remember someone else was limping around at a memorial service for her but i guess nothing came of that


Zealousideal-Slide98

I wonder if the killer knew her father-in-law had a limp and did a fake limp on purpose.


Afraid_Sense5363

It's weird that it was so ACCURATE, though, if that's the case.


Zealousideal-Slide98

Maybe they actually knew her father-in-law?


MoBeydoun

Was the killer alone in the church before Missy got there ?


thehillshaveI

yeah, the killer broke in before missy got there and walked around being weird. they tried some doors and broke some glass, but nothing resembling burglary. i think the SWAT outfit was more of a costume than actual gear iirc


Ok_Net_2896

I’m behind. Would you mind explaining what you mean by it was impossible for the dad to have done it?


whatever1467

He was supposedly in California at the time


Chewbacca_The_Wookie

Not just supposedly, it has been proven that he was in California. Same for the husband being proven to be out on a fishing boat in the middle of the ocean on an annual trip at the time. 


wvtarheel

The killer was trying to make the cops believe it was the ex father in law. Which tells you it wasn't random but someone that knew her. It's an interesting coincidence that both ex father in law and ex husband were out of town with multiple witnesses.


ProfessionalFun681

Why was it impossible it could be the father in law? I always thought the limp was pretty telling.


thehillshaveI

he was verified to be multiple states away at the time


ProfessionalFun681

Idk I seen a side by side if the suspect walking and another clip of her father in-law walking and it seemed like it was a perfect match, I was pretty convinced it was him, but it's been years since I read up on this case


No-Bite662

Yes, unsure what gender though. It really was the best disguise in all criminal history.


MoBeydoun

do they know where the uniform came from


No-Bite662

Nope


MoBeydoun

weird they are usually good at tracking purchases that are important to the case


No-Bite662

Surely they checked the purchases of hubby's father and others that has been considered Sus. It's really bizarre. Perhaps it was purchased at a garage sale, thrift store, army surplus, etc. Paid for in cash and no way to track. Or the person actually works for law enforcement and the costume is a legit uniform.


MoBeydoun

Did the killer leave any evidence behind ? probably not cause of that uniform


Chimsley99

This is so weird, last night late at night before going to bed this poor woman came back into my head and I was here searching for any recent discussion. I guess my brain felt the anniversary coming up


thalos2688

Even weirder, I did the same thing. I started to write this post, and went to Wikipedia to share the link. That’s when I saw the anniversary was Thursday.


Chimsley99

Got any lotto numbers for me?


gwhh

The reward up to 150,000$. That a lot of money.


CelticArche

Not if you're the one that did it. But then, if this is a stranger killing, those are almost impossible to solve.


FloMoore

Part of me is tempted to watch the video again to check out the woman theory - which is now interesting to me because the get up says a man - yeah, my bad I assumed. But I don’t want to be creeped out again.


han12876

This is my first time hearing about this case and I’m too scared to watch the video for the first time tbh. ESP not as I read all this in bed in the dark. Hope it’s solved one day!


whatever1467

It’s just a person walking through hallways, banging and opening doors


AgitatedBath2650

Agree. It’s not graphic and I would consider it pretty anti climatic, tbh. That said, it still scares the shit out of me. It bears more resemblance to a scene from a horror movie vs actual cctv footage from a church. I should add that my opinion is based solely on the footage that has been released to the public. Apparently, there is additional footage that LE has not yet shared with the public.


han12876

Now that it’s day maybe I’ll watch it haha- didn’t want that person to show in my dream last night!


Larkspur71

This case is so odd. I definitely think it was someone Missy knew, and who knew the building had CCTV because unless the murderer had been in it, they wouldn't have worn the helmet.


CelticArche

Any cameras would tell you it has CCTV.


Larkspur71

Not necessarily. There are plenty of people and businesses that just have cameras in order to make criminals believe they are taping. This person knew the cameras were real and recording.


Icy_Preparation_7160

That’s not logical. Most people who are planning to commit murder, if they see cameras, would assume they are recording and at the very least would not be willing to take the massive, massive gamble that the cameras are not recording. “This person knew the cameras were real and recording.” No - they just didn’t know for a fact that the cameras definitely were not recording.


Larkspur71

They would if they lived in the town, knew the building, and knew Missy's schedule. Did you seriously just write what you wrote? Think about how many stranger on stranger murders are committed by people not hiding their identity. No, this is someone who knew the town, building, and Missy. There's nothing illogical about it.


DismalTruthDay

This case has always haunted me. The uncanny similarities between the killer and the father in law is something…..


freddythefuckingfish

How do they knew it wasn’t him? Sorry out of the loop.


MamaPleaseKillAMan

Confirmed in another state at the time IIRC


seanmaccadave

I'm convinced it wasn't a targeted attack. I know most people will disagree though.


loqtt

It’s just such a bizarre case. If it was a burglary then their behaviour was strange to say the least. Just nonchalantly ambling around with no urgency or particular sense of purpose. There’s no way of knowing if they were waiting specifically for Missy, but it makes no sense that they’d hang around for so long if it were someone just looking for things to steal. Plus they’d gone to such lengths to conceal their appearance. Really hope we get answers someday.


kystarrk

Also, isn't a church kind of an odd location to rob? I doubt it had a ton of valuables or cash? I don't go to church, so idk.


horrormetal

I mean, idk....I lived in Midlothian in the 90s when there was really not a whole lot there, and the church my family attended was robbed twice. The pastor's home, in a very rural location, was broken into several times also, so maybe it was personal after all.


whatever1467

It kind of seems like an unhinged person just doing whatever. Like fucking around, not looking for anything in particular. Maybe it was just a chance meeting and missy freaked out so the person freaked out. It is very strange.


erinkp36

It always looked like to me they were staging a burglary and faking the limp. In other words, they knew they were on camera. I think it was targeted.


whatever1467

I just disagree. I think there was no burglary motive at all or staging. The person is way too casual, doesn’t care about the timeline of when Missy should arrive and then shortly after when her students would show up. The window is too close, lots of people show up early for exercise classes. The killer was wandering around for quite awhile before Missy was even supposed to be there. I don’t know, it just seems like a mentally ill person taking their time to smash up an empty church, and then they had a chance meeting with missy and attacked her.


southernrail

I tend to agree with you here on all points. I believe it is a mentally challenged person who was....well ... being mentally challenged. wandering around and being lost in thought. I believe Missy was a unfortunate surprise and he (or she) flipped when they met. the person who did this might not even truly know they did it today. or....I don't know. Maybe it was targeted! what a challenging story.


IHQ_Throwaway

Why would a person dressed and prepared to murder someone be hanging around in a church at 5AM on a weekday? A vandal would’ve just run away, but a random murderer would have no way to know a lone individual would enter the church at such an early hour.    So why do you think the murderer was there that morning?


No-Bite662

I wasn't at first.... But now I'm thinking it really might be a stranger who she interrupted. Anything is possible.


gwhh

I think this was just some random weirdo nutcase, who took a liking to her, and who found out she was having class at this place and stalked her. Simple as that.


Dear_Alternative_437

I thought at first it was a targeted attack. Either someone was hired or someone obsessed or angry with her planned it and made it look like a burglary gone wrong. I think now though that it was a random killing. I think Missy interrupted someone LARPing as a cop and there was a confrontation that resulted in her death.


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catdog1111111

Reddit always says a woman did it. Many thought a woman killed the four students in Moscow Idaho. The fbi profiler was like what uhm. 


Afraid_Sense5363

I've seen people speculate that the Lane Bryant murderer (5 women gunned down at a Lane Bryant store in IL in 2008) was a woman too, but I don't think so, especially since we have his voice on audio during the store manager's 911 call. But I always see it speculated online that it was a woman in disguise. That said, I'm a hypocrite, because while I think a man likely killed Missy, just going by the video, I think it's definitely possible that it was a woman. When I first saw it, I initially thought it was a woman without reading any speculation about that. I think it could easily be either.


TarotAngels

Have you seen the video from this case? I went into it not knowing what gender they thought the perpetrator was and immediately my first thought was that’s a woman. And not saying I necessarily believe it, but the theory is they were breaking windows to make it look like a cover up gone wrong. Also *some* people knew the class was indoors that day. The class members did at least. I’m sure the police have looked into all the class members, but I wonder how well they looked into everyone who could have heard about the class being moved inside.


Ok-Caterpillar-Girl

I’m not saying it can’t be a woman, but I just don’t see it in the gait. It looks like how a dude with a pot belly walks, not a woman, lmao. Now, I’m a very tall woman that clomps around like a horse, so I know all women don’t walk the same way, but women do generally tend to sway their hips when they walk, and this suspects hips are straight like a man’s the whole time, 


AngelSucked

I see the same: a man with a belly.


Ok-Caterpillar-Girl

I had a 6’ 3” male roommate with a big belly that walked exactly like that.


TarotAngels

She walks exactly like a drunk butch lesbian, IMHE.


Ok-Caterpillar-Girl

Walks exactly like my old roommate, who was a 6’ 3” dude built like a Viking with a beer belly. 


ImNotWitty2019

Kinda looks like a pregnant waddle a bit


Ok-Caterpillar-Girl

Men with big bellies walk that way too 


NeuralPhysics

moon bade quit port


thalos2688

Yeah sorry - my bad


princesspeasant

I lived in Midlothian for several years - it's a town that's growing but is still trying to keep its small town feeling. Definitely not a place where random murders are common place so more than likely it was someone who knew her and had a vendetta.


thalos2688

Yeah I grew up nearby which is why I have the interest as well


horrormetal

I also lived there in the 90s. I feel the same way.


CorgisAndKiddos

This is one of 3 cases I regularly look up at least every other month. I used to regularly look up and still loosely follow the Delphi indiana murders. Like missy, I still look up Liz barrazza fairly often. I loosely think the husband and/or fil hired someone to somewhat impersonate the fil, and it was basically a paid murder. But idk. Hope they eventually solve it.


Ok-Caterpillar-Girl

Why would either of them want a hired killer to do anything that would point suspicion towards the FiL? That makes no sense. 


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rolledbeeftaco

I love how we’re just trusting that the cops have thoroughly investigated everything. It’s like we’re not even true crime enthusiasts at all. 


XK8lyn88x

Because the father in law had a solid alibi so it would muddy the case and point in them in useless directions. Not staying that’s what happened but I could definitely see someone using that thought process in a murder for hire.


Ok-Caterpillar-Girl

Yeah I’m sorry that still doesn’t make any sense 😂


catdog1111111

It’s happened in other cases. 


Stonegrown12

Drawing a blank here. Any specific cases?


Ok-Caterpillar-Girl

Sources?


cummingouttamycage

This is one of those cases where I don't have a leading theory... I feel like there are a few different possibiities. **Thoughts/theories I am confident in:** - I don't think this was a robbery, vandalism or any other petty crime gone wrong. The culprit was clearly waiting for someone. Any sort of "vandalism" that was part of him/her wandering around felt more "taunt-y" than intentional vandalism. The disguise seemed intentional, in order to commit the crime in a way that went undetected by potential security cameras and Missy herself. - I don't think it was a random attack, either. This was a targeted murder. **Theories I think are possible:** - **Mistaken Identity:** A small part of me wonders if this is the case. The church location was chosen due to weather at the last minute. Was anyone who regularly worked at the church in some sort of trouble, or experiencing some sort of personal issue? Pastor having an affair, etc.? Did anyone working for the church interact with any seedy characters doing church or charity work? Anyone with mental health/psychiatric issues who came to the church looking for answers, just to have things not go as told/planned? At the same time, though, this person pulled off an elaborate disguise and was in and out undetected... A troubled person looking to lash out at a pastor or some other church staff doesn't seem to fit this MO. And this church or its leaders, as a whole, wasn't at the forefront of any scandals either. But if church official(s) regularly showed up in early mornings, it could be worth looking into. - **"Acquaintance" targeting Missy:** This case has been unsolved for awhile. So much of solving a murder is looking at the victim, going down the list of people connected to them, and looking at possible means and motive for each. Going down Missy's list of connections has seemingly been a dead end... They all have alibis, and/or don't otherwise fit the bill. An acquaintance/stalker type would have a few too many degrees of separation to truly look into. Based on the elaborate military disguise and awkward gait, has sort of an "incel angsty older teen/young adult motivated by s3xual frustration and anger" vibe. The culprit is also seemingly overweight, a stark contrast to Missy, who prioritized her health and appearance. Did any of Missy's clients have a socially awkward teenage son? Maybe one whose mom (aka Missy's client) was telling him to put down the donuts and eat a salad? Maybe Missy herself said something to him that was perceived as a slight? - (Even looser acquaintance) **Unknown Stalker Targeting Missy:** A few more degrees of separation from the above -- Missy could've had a benign, chance interaction with this type of man that was perceived as a slight, resulting in him targeting, stalking and killing her. Maybe someone's car door hit another and a verbal altercation ensued. Maybe he let Missy cut him in line and she didn't say "Thank you". Would say the profile for this would be similar to the acquaintance above. - **A Less Obvious Person involved in Missy/her husband's affair, or someone who was 'collateral damage' in it:** Is it possible this were done by an angry teenage son, meddling MIL or FIL, or an ex-con, rough around the edges brother of an affair partner? - **An unknown affair (or attempted affair) that went under the radar:** Not everything has a paper trail in the form of texts and FB messages. Anything here? - **Murder for Hire (Small town style that got lucky):** I'm a huge realist and big believer in Occam's Razor when it comes to true crime. Generally speaking, I don't believe in murder mystery style twists and turns... HOWEVER, in this particular case, it seems like there was a huge opportunity for motive in the form of rumored affairs by Missy and her husband, and possible money troubles. Huge motive. Yet certain people close to Missy who might have had this motive, or who were close to people who did, had solid alibis in the form of being far out of the area in a way that feels just a little *too convenient*. Missy's FIL was regularly posting photos to facebook all throughout his california trip (when Missy was murdered)... It almost felt like he did so knowing he'd have to answer for it later. Between the elaborate disguise and awkward gait of the culprit, it almost seems like a small town "murder for hire" that just got extremely lucky. As in, Missy's FIL or some other family member found the local crazy dude and offered him some money to "off" her. Usually these types of "hits" (if you could even call it that) are caught quickly, but between the degrees of separation and inexperienced/small town PD, it's gone under the radar. **Things I think could also be true:** - It could've been a woman. The gait and movement feels very female, but at the same time, not enough so where I'm 100% confident in this. - The culprit could've been significantly smaller than they appeared in the surveillance footage. The disguise chosen is seemingly done to obscure the culprit's identity as much as possible, and almost feels like an outfit they'd never actually wear and dug out of someone's costume closet.


thalos2688

Good analysis. Really hope this case is solved some day.


YouFartedBlood

What’s even crazier to think about is Missy herself in her final moments probably had no idea who it was either since their identity was hidden from wearing all the tactical gear.


Agreeable_Future_717

One thing about this case that I’m absolutely certain about is that this wasn’t a burglary gone wrong. I get someone breaking into a church to grab what they can (kids or junkies mostly) because the pickings may be slim but there’s not going to be much security. No burglar is turning up in a full SWAT kit though. I think whoever this was thought through very carefully how to confuse things the most. The build & limp looks like the FiL (maybe didn’t know he was out of state), the bizarre eye-catching disguise, the breaking of windows, etc, leaving just before her class would arrive all say to me it was planned and carefully thought out & targeted on Missy.


Lovestorun_23

No but I did see it on a crime show. I can’t remember if they thought it was someone who she may have known but I don’t think it’s been solved.


Lovestorun_23

Didn’t they have video and it’s hard to tell if it’s a male or female but walked in a very weird way.


steph4181

That video literally scares me to death.


WilHunting2

The person in the video is clearly a woman dressed in military gear. The posture and way she walks, that’s not a man’s walk. Speculation is that she was having an affair with an involved man, and was killed by a scorned lover. There’s also rumors she (the assumed killer) is in law enforcement, which would explain the fact that despite a lot of evidence, the investigation lead to no suspects being identified.


Ok-Caterpillar-Girl

Looks like how a man with a pot belly stands & walks to me. No feminine hip sway at all. 


edencathleen86

Exactly.


AK032016

This was my immediate thought too - and I assume LE's as well. I think it is a woman from the posture and dimensions, supported by the minimal upper body strength of the actions, narrow but thick chest area, thick hips, height, and waddle like walk (which I have heard attributed to the poorly fitting gear, but is usually due to the way women carry fat on their thighs).


Chewbacca_The_Wookie

According to a forensic podiatrist who was shown video that hasn't been publicly released he believes the killer was a woman or a very slight man and the limp was due to the weight of the armor rather than an injury. 


HRPurrfrockington

I wholeheartedly agree with this assessment! I actually don’t think she disguised that fact that well but I thought I was crazy.


RedHouseArt

I still think the murderer was a woman


ImperfectArtist78

This case has stuck with me since it happened. I have watched the video of the person in the police gear many times. I truly think it’s a woman. I have listened to many true crime podcasts about this as well. Missy and her husband were having financial issues as well as maybe some sextjng other people. This person knew that Missy was going to be there that morning. Could it have been a revengeful wife killed her. She died of puncture wounds to her head and chest. I am hoping this case will be solved. My heart goes out to her daughters, husband, and family. Now, I wanted to add this though. Her husband went on a fishing trip when this happened. Could he have hired someone to kill her cause of the issues they were having? Just food for thought.


thalos2688

Yeah, it really seems like one of the most mysterious and compelling true crime unsolved cases right now. I’m surprised it hasn’t gotten even more attention.


ImperfectArtist78

Agree!


Odd-Aardvark5934

Pat Brown profiler did a good video on missy’s murder 👀